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:Skyward Sword's intro is in the form of a oral myth, not a direct narrative - the first line of it literally is "This is a tale that you humans have passed down through uncounted generations...". It's what the people on Skyloft and The Sky THINK, as mimetically mutated through a thousand tellings. Same deal as when a character says something, you're cherry picking things that are open to interpretation to try and refute something which isn't because you Officially Know what's up. | :Skyward Sword's intro is in the form of a oral myth, not a direct narrative - the first line of it literally is "This is a tale that you humans have passed down through uncounted generations...". It's what the people on Skyloft and The Sky THINK, as mimetically mutated through a thousand tellings. Same deal as when a character says something, you're cherry picking things that are open to interpretation to try and refute something which isn't because you Officially Know what's up. | ||
:"Human" has been used inconsistently in the series, ranging from "the round-eared guys in Twilight Princess" to a general term for "anything that looks a lot like IRL humans" (Some of this may be Early Instalment Weirdness - I think OOT was where the term "Hylian" was first used, so everything before that defaulted to human) - but the recent games, certainly BotW-onward, have specifically eschewed "Human" as a word. We don't need to subdivide when "people: Hylian" isn't subdivided. - [[User:Sanityormadness|Sanityormadness]] ([[User talk:Sanityormadness|talk]]) 14:36, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | :"Human" has been used inconsistently in the series, ranging from "the round-eared guys in Twilight Princess" to a general term for "anything that looks a lot like IRL humans" (Some of this may be Early Instalment Weirdness - I think OOT was where the term "Hylian" was first used, so everything before that defaulted to human) - but the recent games, certainly BotW-onward, have specifically eschewed "Human" as a word. We don't need to subdivide when "people: Hylian" isn't subdivided. - [[User:Sanityormadness|Sanityormadness]] ([[User talk:Sanityormadness|talk]]) 14:36, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | ||
You are correct. By itself, the intro can't be fully trusted. However, we do understand it to be correct as it's actually backed up by another, unbiased source. | |||
Human seems to have two general meanings at present: the species of Skyloftians and descendants thereof; and the subsection of this species that's not otherwise specified (for example, not a Gerudo or one of the "people of Hylia" as Hylians were first known in ALttP). I wouldn't know how meaningful the "Human" abstinence has been in the last 3 or so games, but a lack of usage, if nothing else, means a lack of meaning change. These two meanings seem to apply in all games and circumstances that mention Humans. [[User:Argentum Kurodil|Argentum Kurodil]] ([[User talk:Argentum Kurodil|talk]]) 19:09, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | |||