I didn't think Libk's initial suspicion against Moe and the others who made the read list was too bad, mostly because I can imagine a townie having legitimate paranoia about scum coordinating. And him then claiming that his finger of suspicion didn't actually indicate suspicion was weird...
I think anyone familiar with my play would realize that I'd be more like to have bussed Kreaal, and it'd be out of character for me to so adamantly defend such a suspicious partner. I'm also not the only one who did so.
I'm not sure how you got this from my post. I was explicitly scum reading...
I've been busy today, but there's not much to talk about now, since Kreaal's getting lynched anyway. I'm not a fan as stated earlier, but at least we'll able to move on.
I'd hammer but maybe some really valuable discussion will happen in the next 15 minutes, who knows
I don't think the reasoning in Silver's post against me is particularly good and it looks contrived, as if he's manipulating evidence to suit a narrative. I could buy that he just spotted a connection and was overeager to confirm it in order to find scum, though, so I wouldn't make too much of...
@Silverfish: I don’t quite know how to respond because most of your post falls under the category of being entirely possible, but with no actual reason to believe it, especially over more straightforward and innocuous explanations. It’s as if you’ve constructed this elaborate narrative and are...
I don’t think there’s much reason to believe I killed Flarg. In addition to what others have said: if I was really scumbuds with Kreaal and wanted to save him so badly, then why kill one of his main defenders? And while I did want to avoid a Kreaal lynch yesterday (although I wanted to avoid a...
I believe these were made at 10:00? Which means they don't count, maybe?
I thought you would for sure vote someone at the last minute to save yourself, and I didn't want to risk the tie.
I simply never suspected you for your vote on SMS, and didn't mention it at all in the post you quoted. To the extent that I commented on your SMS vote at all, it was to say that it would reflect well on you if he flipped scum. See here:
I never claimed you did either fam. I was referring to your suspicion of Kreaal. Read my posts more carefully please.
I think the reason you're not following is because that's not what I said and I'm not quite sure how you got that from my post lol.
I definitely think Kreaal would be more informative and these are fair points, but I'd also rather lynch a scum read than a town read. Lynching SMS would help give insight into a couple of players in particular for me, but it's not my primary reason for wanting to lynch him.
I believe I've seen...
I do expect him to flip scum, but if he doesn't, it would probably reflect well on Johnny for suddenly switching his vote to him while he was deciding between Kreaal and Silver, even if I couldn't rule out a bus. My main focus would probably shift to Ex at that point.
I don't necessarily hate a Silver lynch, especially since I'm town reading everyone on his wagon, but I think it reflects well on him that he hasn't attempted to push either of the counterwagons. In fact, he's defended both of them to an extent.
Vote: SMS
That's part of it for me, since meta...
I'd say town lean, mostly since I think your takes have been reasonable so far. I also get the impression that you're a skilled player who's good at appearing pro-town, though, so I'm a bit wary.
Nah, but I do feel SMS is sticking his neck out there unnecessarily by saying stuff like "I really really want to lynch Kreaal today" and "I feel very strongly that they are scum."
I don't know why SMS would be so eager to pursue a Kreaal lynch as scum, but I also don't think he has any good reason to do it as town, and the reasoning he provided is weak. The entire concept of doing obviously suspicious things and relying on WIFOM to clear you is dubious, especially for...
I don’t really suspect Minish because her reasoning was different and made more sense, and while Moe disagreed with you, I don’t believe he suspected you for it.
Out of curiosity, who did you have in mind as falling into each category?
What about that post makes you think so?
I’m not suspecting you for criticizing the plan, but for suspecting Kreaal for it based on dubious reasoning. And not necessarily, because I think it’d probably be more beneficial to call it out early for town cred rather than just hope it works on maybe one or two people, especially since you...
I don’t town read anyone for calling out Kreaal on his idea because it’s such an easy and obvious thing to do, and perfectly sensible for scum to use it for town points.
I also dislike Ex’s suspicion that Kreaal made his suggestion as some kind of mafia plan. Any remotely decent scum would...
I guess I don't quite like this line from Minish:
It seems like the kind of ironic comment that mafia might make, and it makes sense that this part of the setup would be at the forefront of scums' minds.
I find you not reading the setup to be pretty believable because I also often don't read it and because it's not in the game thread. And I've never played with you as mafia (iirc) but I don't know that you'd be the type to rely on tricks like that, especially ones that are easily faked and...
I don't think the way he went after you really made much sense and seemed kind of forced, as if he was trying to cast suspicion on you early or look like he was contributing. But I don't know if scum would come out swinging like that and he seems fairly wild in general. Might be worth looking...