numbers died because of his transgressions
i've recently come to the conclusion that numbers was probably behind the time warp, and i believe that is likely the reason he flipped green
since other people have said their targets and lived, i'll openly claim that i targeted numbers twice last night
what happened last night to result in numbers dying as town was pretty complicated and even if i was allowed to fully explain it it would probably not make a lot of sense
from my perspective though, the NK is still missing and numbers died per my expectations. I've recently come to conclude (with reasonably high certainty) why numbers flipped town instead of purple, and it has to do with the time warp. I probably won't be able to soft the specifics in an unambiguous way.
i did not do anything that i (or i imagine storm) would consider redirection last night. Number's kill is the only bullet aside from the presumed mafia kill that i anticipated the existence of, and I believe that bullet ended up in his own head via a sequence of events that i do not believe involved redirection.
i believe it was related to numbers' role (i strongly suspect this but can not say with certainty)
from my understanding, an event involving numbers triggered the time warp, which reset the game. Clearly not all aspects of the game were reset since dead players remained dead. Other aspects probably were reset, which would explain why numbers didn't flip per my expectations.
I was surprised to learn that it was associated with numbers, though its hard to say whether or not thats because it has a strange nature or because of storm's slapdash nature as a mod
At the time i believed that was the case. Later correspondence with the moderator changed that impression. Its more accurate to say it was related to numbers than to me though.
we can't, really, at least not straight.
I'm also not following the entirity of the game because too much is going on for me to process.
Night 1 numbers was planning on killing you. I've softed stopping that and numbers died instead as a result. (though not via a redirect). I was expecting numbers to flip purple (which people suspect means as the buck), but then the night ended early and the game reset via time warp. I believe one of the consequences of this time warp was that numbers died with his original town role instead of as his purple role. Exlight is claiming that if i were to have redirected numbers kill to himself, that the kill would have been redirected to a random player instead.
there's some info that hopefully isn't specific enough that i die
From my perspective and discounting unknowns it should be nearly impossible for raven to be scum, and it makes sense to treat him as town for solving purposes.
@RavenRaziel98 Was it conjecture combined with in-thread information that made you think i was able to clear you, or was it a result of some privileged info that you had?
if another grenade enters play i request it be tossed to me
ex probably softed bartender earlier when he said that if i redirected numbers he would have expected there to be a ~1/12 chance of numbers hitting himself, implying that he gave numbers a drink. (i can't remember the exact odds he gave)
i would guess that numbers was given the item, yeah, or else it was something his role started with that wasn't implied in the rolename (which along with his target was all i had access to). Its technically possible i got the item and it caused me to cause the reset upon killing numbers but if thats the case storm didn't tell me i received it.
which can be done via methods i can't claim but raven probably can
i said this earlier but killing from the trio lowers the PoE by the smallest amount. Killing me or raven confirms the other. Killing someone from the trio doesn't confirm anyone. I would guess that Minish was the mafia kill and sean died via some other mechanism.
Now that me and you are conftown though one of us should be biting the bucket tonight.
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-Rag seems to know numbers caused the time warp but only after asking the host
-seemed to think Numbers was the buckifer or buckified and that this is the reason he should have flipped purple? and that the time warp caused him to flip as green
-Rag says Numbers had a bullet that backfired but no redicrection?
-talks about 'Number's original role' indicating that numbers wasnt the first buckifier despite the fact that since Raven got it third Rag would have gotten it second and numbers would have been first to give to him so numbers would have been the first buckifier yet Rag seems to think he started out as town?
-but Rag also cant have been the first buckifier as he seems to have caused fexts death by his own role
-Rag says he targeted numbers twice but that it wasnt a redirection
-asks to be targeted by a grenade. Another part of his role? his role seems complicated enough already.
-Raven clear adds up with buckifier stuff in hindsight
-ok this is likely never mafia its too convoluted to be mafia
@Ragnarokio is your role in any way related to the buckifier like DW's is?
-why do you think Numbers was buckified at basically N1 but you also seem to think he wasnt the first buckifier?
it seems like numbers got buckified during N1 and you seemed to know that but then the time warp gave the buck to you somehow??
