Search results for query: *

are you going somewhere with this? the kind of fishing you're doing is blatantly anti-town. People probably shouldn't be talking about tristan's cop claim in general unless you're trying to get him lynched. There's no reason for tristan to out himself when he did. He gained nothing from it...

pretty sure its just a weird policy thing sure, but one of those votes was already primed to move. a single person changing their mind or showing up prior to the deadline could have changed the lynch. It was far from decided.

i mean SMS would have been lynched

if SMS had had one more vote or sunfan one less then i would have switched and sunfan would have been lynched.

wait and see for what? SMS hasn't claimed that his role is confirmable or even that it will do anything going forward. He also claimed in a situation where it was probable he'd be lynched if he hadn't, whereas rubik claimed abruptly. Admittedly, abruptly claiming for no reason is apparently his...

he is playing in an unusually cocky way and is talking so as to suggest he knows more about the setup than i think he should, which makes me suspicious of his angle, but i'm still putting my money on town because i don't think he'd fakeclaim what he did so early.

his frustration at the jinjo lynch is probably more likely to come from town rubik than scum rubik but the claim is by far the bigger portion. If he doesn't deliver on what he claimed then the townread will probably become a scumread.

I don't disagree, and thats a result of my underestimating the psychological factor. I severely underestimated how believable my claim would need to be in order to dissuade people from lynching me, and felt like given that a simple mason claim should dissuade people from lynching me, that hiding...

he says his role can confirm him as town and I believe him. If he claims he gets roleblocked again I'll consider him for a lynch but in my mind he's one of the stronger town reads right now.

thanks, I'll continue to play in the way i feel is suitably effective. I've been ignoring most of your arguments for a while now because getting involved in them won't do anything for me. I responded to that one because i felt it was appropriate for platforming my perspective transparently and...

What's the scum motivation for not claiming game though? If its not that we didn't actually share a game then that makes the most obvious motivation that i wanted to hide that we were actually lovers as opposed to masons. I don't think it was justifiable to lynch claimed masons even if they...

i'm voting lynch SMS for the reasons i've been expressing in thread kirino is their own person and idk what they've been doing with their vote Kirino didn't say i did, he said i was willing to. Its true that if kirino hadn't convinced me to switch to SMS then I wouldn't have said that i was...

but you did claim when not urged?

If a buddy suggested that you claim at day start to clear suspicion from you would you?

i'm listening.

why not? The reason scum SMS would is to turn people off his wagon. SMS was a natural choice for the day's lynch before he claimed considering how day 1 ended, and that changed once he claimed. Now, why would town SMS come in as soon as day 2 start and claim what he did? To me it seems like...

Lar is any role that gives the people he targets notification that they were targeted (fruit dealer, inventor, and amplifier being examples). SMS is any role or on a team with any role with the ability to figure out either that lar targeted SMS on N1 or the ability to find lar's role. Lar...

you could have voted SMS if you would rather he be lynched.

This is also one of the stronger pieces of evidence that specifically suggests I'm not lying, although you can still WIFOM it. If me and kirino are scum, I would have had no reason to withhold which game i'm from. Simply claiming it upfront when asked would have pulled suspcion off me quicker...

it was kirino's idea to claim. i would have preferred to try and dispel the wagon without fullclaiming. The day basically went like this [i'm the leading wagon when the day is ~7 hours from over iirc] [i claim mason without outing my partner] [i'm asked to claim what game i'm from by minish, to...

why don't you want to lynch SMS?

Arguing that its a bad play is fine. If you're applying hanlon's razor though, then you need to prove not that my play was bad, but that I'm lying about why I made my play. If you think I would have known better than to make that play and so you don't think I'm being honest about thinking the...

hey CL want to lynch SMS for me?

want to refresh me on why you think i'm scum?

What makes you comfortable that I'm lying but not them? If you think both us are lying but lynching me is more harmful if I'm not than lynching them is, then it makes sense that you should lynch funnier or rubik ahead of me. If you don't think they're lying but you think I am then you should...

because I don't think playing more desperately will increase my chances of winning. Posting and arguing as much as i am is already probably having a negative impact on my win chances but not interacting with the game would be boring.

they said their piece, didn't vote for me, and then shut up about it. There are only a handful of players who think lynching me today is remotely justifiable i think, and that number probably becomes smaller if you don't include scum.

Do you think funnier and rubik are also lying? They both also basically said they'd make the same play in my position. Do you have a reason to think I'm lying other than that you'd have played the role differently than me? Not believing it is fine but the fact that it could confirm itself is...

either because you think its more likely that i'll die than you do or you think its more possible to avoid my lynch than i do. there's no way in hell you're convincing lar or jinjo that i'm not the vote today. I already said my piece to SMS and i'm pretty sure if they didn't accept that then...

with what? lynching me is stupid and i feel like everyone but lar and jinjo understands that i don't know why SMS is on my wagon really but he's smart enough to understand that its a very anti-town play, and so he's probably either scum or he'll get off it. The only real evidence i've seen...

Except for all the time you and rubik and funnygurl and possibly some other people spent reading the backlog and polishing their reads or developing new angles. Even if it doesn't change the outcome of the lynch ultimately its probably still a town-sided play.

are you going to answer rubik's question, or my own? i spent a while arguing against you, as did a handful of other people. I eventually stopped responding to your posts because i got the feeling you weren't reading anything anyone else was saying and just wanted to yell at people until i got...

i feel like you're probably misusing WIFOM but it also doesn't matter. The point was to demonstrate feasible cases in which I or funnier could have been targeted by giri and the NK. I don't think its likely, its just possible. (and in funnier's case the odds are non-negligible imo). the player...

a lot of reasons, really. Don't think anyone was voting me for lack of effort though. there were two votes on each of me and funnier iirc. four players isn't "most of the town". Those players also may have been voting us not becuase they thought we were scum but for other reasons, like to...

i'm on post 170 i might give up on sometime not trying to make the world run

I might not, but there's a good chance I would. Maybe i'll do one. yeah that one looked pretty cool

i assume he's referring to how ZD doesn't allow nested quotes

you think wolves don't pay attention to other players? The reason i don't have a reason on funnier is almost certainly not because i haven't been paying attention or haven't been trying but rather because i have a different scumhunting paradigm than you. You're assuming i play the game a certain...

would you have done this if you were scum?

it would. If a lesser active person is sometimes harder to read than a more active player then it means that a player being more active doesn't necessarily mean that they're easier to read. This doesn't mean that players who are more active don't tend to be easier to read, just that it isn't an...

are you saying you've never had a harder time reading someone who's posted more than someone who's posted less? Its not unusual for players to go the full game without doing anything that causes me to read them alignment-wise. I admittedly have a more cynical view of the efficacy of scumtells...

i don't know who the top poster is but posting more doesn't necessarily make someone easier to read

This i can agree with, given if you're scum you're not the only player on the scumteam, and its also possible you did try and kill me or funnier but giri stopped it. Its a point in your favour though. Do you intend to interact with any player other than funnier and me at any point this game?

Mellow Ezlo - idk Rubik - town naga10 - idk Spiritual Mask Salesman - scum Morbid Minish - town funnier6 - idk Kirino - town Jinjo - scum DawningWinds - idk DekuNut - idk Poyzin - idk Ragnarokio - town Johnny Sooshi - idk Killjoy - idk Giri - town The Sun Fan - self ExLight - town MixMasterLar -...

the threat of harm and the act of harming have very different natures in game theory probably

its not

because lynching him provides information that makes it a lot easier to read a lot of people and make any effort i spend scumhunting a lot more productive as a result. If SMS thinks that further mechanical information will confirm him as town then I'll consider supporting not lynching him, but...

lynch SMS

taken money from an innocent person and maybe caused emotional damage to the daughter and the family, in that case, I'd say. In this case if you think that the extension itself is anti-town then you can argue that rubik's threat resulted in harm to town, I think. You could also argue that it...

and how'd it hurt the town?