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That's certainly combat, but it's also far from damage being done to the domain itself. There's no indication of large scale violence or that Zora's Domain had to fight back an overwhelming force of Guardians. Nothing about the state of these settlements or its occupants indicates there was any...

No, it really isn't. But they're still one of six prominent areas that were left untouched by Ganon. Is Hyrule such a collection of dumbasses that their entire system of record-keeping, language, and storytelling fell apart because the monarchs died?

Because there's theory based on things presented in the games and then there's fanfiction. :eyes:

We are never given any indication that the violence reached Hateno, the Zora Domain, or Death Mountain. If the game doesn't mention it, no one talks about it happening, and there are no signs of it happening then it didn't happen.

In BotW we see none of that. Almost every major settlement was untouched by Ganon.

So Hyrule writes nothing down and doesn't pass anything down verbally? 100 years isn't that long in a world where people can live for more than a century, especially when central Hyrule is the only part that was actually destroyed. If Washington DC was wiped out the rest of the country wouldn't...

Yeah, it's one of those elements of the series that bothers me. BotW is the first time we've really seen someone try and preemptively engage Ganon. Given how often Link and Ganon show up so often that you'd think someone would crack open a book and say, "Wait, this has happened before!"

@GZ Zelda To briefly respond to this post over yonder (sorry, was at work and couldn't check ZD until now): 1) TotK wears the face of an owl on his chest, but is still altogether a different non-owl species. 2) A future game may lay claim to the idea that the Zonai were involved with the Master...

I'm sorry, but this is just using a theory that contradicts established canon as the grounds for another theory. That's the big reason I haven't touched it.

Rauru's reign takes place between Skyward Sword and Minish Cap, because he explicitly says he's the king of Hyrule, a kingdom that only started existing after the events of Skyward Sword. No, there is nothing indicating it has existed before that. No, the Zonai do not make sense. They don't...

I think my immediate point would be that Rauru isn't an owl person. The Rauru we meet in TotK is very much a weird looking goat person without owl characteristics. Additionally, the technology we see in Skyward Sword just does not resemble that of the Zonai in TotK. We see what their technology...

I am going by the books specifically requested and authorized by Nintendo, and by the games. Saying that they aren't canon would be like saying that any game not directed Shigeru Miyamoto isn't canon, since he was one of the directors of the first game. I respect the effort you've put into your...

There might be the possibility, but there's nothing to suggest that it was. At the moment there is no actual evidence suggesting that the Zonai were involved with the Master Sword, nor that Rauru's kingdom existed before Skyward Sword. The evidence suggesting otherwise is that both source books...

The Master Sword is only ever referred to as such in Skyward Sword after it is specifically forged during the events of that game. Since The Zonai don't appear at all in Skyward Sword, it seems a reasonable assumption to say that they weren't at all involved in its construction. Assuming that...

Fair enough. It can't really be said whether or not the metal from which the Master Sword was forged has any sort of ties to the Zonai, just that the forging of the blade itself didn't involve anything goat adjacent.

It's made from the same material, but no one was calling it the Master Sword and it lacked those magical characteristics. The material existed, but the Master Sword did not.

But the game treats the blades as distinct entities. It isn't the Master Sword until it's finished, it's the Goddess Sword.

I tend to distinguish between the Goddess Sword and the Master Sword. The former might have been around, but it wasn't actually a powerful artifact yet. The Master Sword itself didn't exist until Skyward Sword.

We know for a fact that Rauru was the first king of Hyrule because he says it in Tears of the Kingdom. Hyrule's a pretty specific name. It isn't like people are just going to pull that out of their butts hundreds of years later and decide to name the place the same thing on a whim. At this point...

The issue is that Rauru's reign isn't before Skyward Sword. He is explicitly stated to be the first king of Hyrule, a kingdom that did not exist chronologically until after the events of Skyward Sword, and the Zonai are never seen even in the background during that game. Unless the Zonai are big...

The big evidence that the technology isn't Zonai is that the Zonai aren't there. TotK, in its infinite wisdom, established that the Zonai were active immediately around the end of Skyward Sword and the beginning of the Hyrule, so there's no reason they shouldn't also be active during the events...

But that would contradict the continuity of TotK indicating that Rauru was allegedly the first king of Hyrule and very much not a Minish. I'm also... not sold on the idea that the Zonai went from towering goat people to microscopic Minish that just really don't look anything like them.

It does, but the Zonai are totally absent. SS allegedly takes place during a period where the Zonai would be active, but they're all hiding just off screen. There are plenty of other ancient dead civilizations that the technology could also belong to.

I don't think the Master Sword was made by the Zonai, since the Zonai were never referenced in Skyward Sword and we see the Goddess Sword transition into the Master Sword there with zero Zonai involvement. As for the next game? I go wherever there's a good story, but I would like the franchise...