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:Skyward Sword's intro is in the form of a oral myth, not a direct narrative - the first line of it literally is "This is a tale that you humans have passed down through uncounted generations...". It's what the people on Skyloft and The Sky THINK, as mimetically mutated through a thousand tellings. Same deal as when a character says something, you're cherry picking things that are open to interpretation to try and refute something which isn't because you Officially Know what's up. | :Skyward Sword's intro is in the form of a oral myth, not a direct narrative - the first line of it literally is "This is a tale that you humans have passed down through uncounted generations...". It's what the people on Skyloft and The Sky THINK, as mimetically mutated through a thousand tellings. Same deal as when a character says something, you're cherry picking things that are open to interpretation to try and refute something which isn't because you Officially Know what's up. | ||
:"Human" has been used inconsistently in the series, ranging from "the round-eared guys in Twilight Princess" to a general term for "anything that looks a lot like IRL humans" (Some of this may be Early Instalment Weirdness - I think OOT was where the term "Hylian" was first used, so everything before that defaulted to human) - but the recent games, certainly BotW-onward, have specifically eschewed "Human" as a word. We don't need to subdivide when "people: Hylian" isn't subdivided. - [[User:Sanityormadness|Sanityormadness]] ([[User talk:Sanityormadness|talk]]) 14:36, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | :"Human" has been used inconsistently in the series, ranging from "the round-eared guys in Twilight Princess" to a general term for "anything that looks a lot like IRL humans" (Some of this may be Early Instalment Weirdness - I think OOT was where the term "Hylian" was first used, so everything before that defaulted to human) - but the recent games, certainly BotW-onward, have specifically eschewed "Human" as a word. We don't need to subdivide when "people: Hylian" isn't subdivided. - [[User:Sanityormadness|Sanityormadness]] ([[User talk:Sanityormadness|talk]]) 14:36, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | ||
You are correct. By itself, the intro can't be fully trusted. However, we do understand it to be correct as it's actually backed up by another, unbiased source. | |||
Human seems to have two general meanings at present: the species of Skyloftians and descendants thereof; and the subsection of this species that's not otherwise specified (for example, not a Gerudo or one of the "people of Hylia" as Hylians were first known in ALttP). I wouldn't know how meaningful the "Human" abstinence has been in the last 3 or so games, but a lack of usage, if nothing else, means a lack of meaning change. These two meanings seem to apply in all games and circumstances that mention Humans. [[User:Argentum Kurodil|Argentum Kurodil]] ([[User talk:Argentum Kurodil|talk]]) 19:09, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | |||
Hi! Just chiming in as a neutral point-of-view. Please refrain from making statements such as [[Special:Diff/627166|"If you can't dispute my point then I'll have no course of action but to correct the pages."]]. We want to avoid getting into edit wars. Mass reverting someone's good faith edits (whether they're an admin or not) because you disagree with them is not how we want to operate here. It's actually a quick way to get blocked from editing and I don't want to inhibit you making good, constructive edits. You've been around here for a few years and we value your contributions a lot, so please don't ruin that by losing your cool and bypassing basic wiki etiquette. The pages in question will survive until all parties involved can come to a mutual agreement or compromise. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] ([[User talk:Charitwo|talk]]) 21:51, August 14, 2023 (UTC) | |||
:That's fair. Sorry for such conduct. [[User:Argentum Kurodil|Argentum Kurodil]] ([[User talk:Argentum Kurodil|talk]]) 07:27, August 15, 2023 (UTC) | |||