@MK9, You've been very shady this game, saying your suspicious with out anything backing them (or so we can see), Bay then Axle when the tides turn on him. Not once did you show any of your classic investigating skills. I know that you probably were busy, but unless you come in here and show why you thought Axle was so suspicious (and unless it had more substance then Bay's) I'm going to be very suspicious of you, more then I am already am. Right now you are looking much worse them Meego did...
@Bayside, Yes illmatic did FOS me, once and never brought it up again, even though I gave him the opportunity too. You must not have seen that it was based on something that was never in my posts. I and
Axle pointed that out to him. He drooped everything with little word on the fact. Plus I called him out right on the FOS before the day ended, why would I do that then kill him? Do you think I'm a smart player or dumb Bay? If you think I may be involved, what could my plan be, what would I have gained? Sure pay attention to how the nightkills and voting is going, but don't ignore all the facts.
I'd like to also point out that it is scum tactic to use nightkills to frame (you yourself have done that right?). I know that by nighkilling Illmatic the mafia wouldn't be able to save Sasuke. It would damn him, plus make me look suspicious as I am the only other person he found suspicious other then Axle. They would have to have taken you out Jo, to stand a chance of saving him. So what is their game? I wasn't in mafia three but I did play Guild Wars 2, if you want to check that out. I was mafia then, but it was a group mafia game so I don't think it will help you much. I was playing tI didn't need to lie or manipulate once to protect any of my team mates, to short of a game for me. I did have to work hard to keep people posting though... only me and one other where that active.
Here the illmatic's whole FOS:
illmatic FOS
Axle
Keyshe(mine)
illmatic
@Meego,
Mafia will play by doing destructive things to the town, they will hide and not be out in the open about what their intentions are. Will manipulate information and twist words. Will flipflop, and or go with safe popular options and votes. Axle did none of that, everything he did was for the townies benefit, stopping any funny business right away, when player wouldn't he put the pressure on. Kybyrian, Link and Bay for example. He also said he what he would be doing. Axle backed up everything with facts and logic.
He played like a townie, as he has before.
He didn't do anything he hadn't done before when he was proven to be town. If Axle was mafia it would be hard to tell, but something would have been starting to show as the days when on if we really where looking reading and thinking. There wasn't enough real reason to vote him off yet.
Your last post to me, has a lot of problems with it, one being again you are pushing that you weren't the only one voting for Axle. That was never my point in my vote or posts. I know that post was for my benefit so I could post again, thanks, so I say that you really need to go read over the posts between us again and think about it before really answering them. You are also not really saying why you are suspicious, it just looks like you didn't like me voting for you, and that you are trying to discredit me, with little I might add.
@Kybyrian...
You found it suspicious when Axle was investigating others (including you), then when he was focusing on Link, pushing for the lynch, you said he shouldn't have (even though you too voting for him.) And also saying he wasn't looking for mafia . You are contradicting yourself there with those thoughts. And now seem to hiding that facts. Also Axle
was looking for mafia and investigating others, you haven't been reading his posts... You just seem to not like it that he ended up landing on a detrimental town (possibly twice,) that was their fault not his... Going with that it contradicts with that you said about agreeing and then that you don't have a problem detrimental town lynches.
Ky,
how can you NOT remember you and Axle taking out Elfen, and Axle bandwagoning almost every vote for that lynch. THAT was the shorted day in all ZD mafia history. Very memorable.
@Dracomajora, Yes, yes you didn't out right say
probably or that he
is town. But you did
press the point that it happens a lot that both are town. That
really sounds like you were
fairly certain of the out come, or at the very least ignoring very
strong facts that you made yourself. Also thinking with that and the fact that your basis for voting for Axle is just a rehash of what Bay was saying, while like so many others, ignoring the logic and facts backing Axle. Makes you look even fishy-er. Add of top of that that you said
Dracomajora said:
Now that a deadlines been announced I feel safe doing this.
You should have said you've seen it happen
more where one is mafia then. You are contradicting yourself by saying it now.
Dracomajora said:
It does happen a lot that two people going at it are both town,but it happens even more than one is mafia.
I need you to answer some questions. How many have you really played and/or watched? What where these scenarios, and how many have you really seen, and how much more often. Please tell us what happened too. Out of the four games I've seen here on ZD I don't recall any of them really having Mafia vs Town in a FOS battle, like Bay and Axle, the ones that I have seen turned out to be townie. (I do hope you aren't counting group mafia in there. That game mechanics are completely different. Also I have to ask about the mafia you saw do that, were they newbie mafia players, or experienced like Bay and Axle? That would be that that player was just being stupid.)
Also why don't you say what you find scumish about my behavior, out right? Not hide it.
Also for you people who are having trouble seeing real mafia/scum tells, I recommenced that you take a look at the posts of the two found Mafia. I'm sure if you really look you'll see something, and try appalling what you learn to other players who are doing similar things. And I need to point out that when a bunch of townies all vote together that is something to watch. Could very well be mafia. Green Goron voted when the last votes came in. All were done very quickly with only an hour apart.
I didn't pay attention to Elfen at all, much less actually read anybody's posts. 
