DekuNut
I play my drum for you
So, I posted that and got two posts that happened before I posted mine. So gimme a chance to answer those quickly, all right?
EBWODP:
Let's begin.
Anyway, the reason I moved on when people began to accept his claim was because I, too, began to accept his claim. Why would I keep going after him if I believed it?
EBWODP:
Let's begin.
All right then. So I've been in the back of your mind for a while then?No, not a PR, or lyncher. But you have no reason to believe that, I guess. Once Poka admitted he was scum yesterday during Twilight (or a little before), at that moment I knew Deku Nut was scum too. There are no night actions involved since I called for his lynch during Twilight of Day 3. I'm more than willing to take a mafia NK if it gives the rest of our PRs a better chance at hitting remaining scum tonight though, so that's no problem.
They may not be inexperienced. Due to the portions of the game, it's more likely for them to hit town than scum, simply because there are only 5 scummies in 25 people. Thats a 1/5 chance of hitting scum. Even so, I agree that it's most likely that cop has been hitting town as well, as nobody has claimed it and pointed at someone.The best influence on the vig, or cop, or RB is a player who is the 2nd scummiest person, or someone who adamantly defended a mafioso, or the like. Suggesting that 'Black Kirby is kind of avoiding discussion so lets vig him,' or 'Lets vig/cop the people a town-lynch because it would be awesome if the vig and the cop both targeted the same player' is just plain bad play, especially when it looks like the vig is somewhat inexperienced with the role. As for the cop, I can't say but seeing as no one has come out so far claiming to be cop and found 2 mafia the past two nights, we can assume the cop is just as inexperienced and has been hitting townies.
You can't say that they knew the vig had a penchant for townies. The vig only killed once at that point, and it was a simple and easy-to-make mistake. Our vig took the wine in front of him, and it turned out that he attacked town. Simple as that.[/B]@JC: You seem of the mind that Mafia would risk their neck for their RB on Day 2. Before they discovered the SK, before they discovered you have some sort of tracker watcher role thing. I can only see a mafia goon doing so. The rest of the mafia, if they all have PRs like strongman, or role cop, would be less inclined, from my own experience to jump in for a RBer, especially at a point in the game where they only know there is a mason, and vig (who has a penchant for townies at the moment).
Yay, the good stuff.First off, the posts that just give me a bad feeling:
Well, it's not like we have many chats about who characters could be. Plus, Mafia is one of the few roles that we know for sure exists. And it's not like people would expect Bowser to be town... besides, there was an argument about which of two people it was, Bowser or Wario. I took one side. Besides, as of last night it's safe to say that Bowser is probably GF (or a bulletproof mafioso, but GF is more likely, as he's the most stereotypical villain in SS.Seems to be pushy that 'Bahaha' is a bowser thing. Deku nut comments on very little character based stuff, but always has something to say about what characters may be mafia.
Well, that's because I almost always do that. Check the other games I've played in. It's not like I've only said "Last night sucked" that game. Besides, Fused is a good player. Losing him kinda sucked. And, as you yourself are proving, you don't need a power role to make a difference.The night turned out actually amazing. Only 1 vanilla townie dead... Second time he's said the 'Oh man, last night sucked' thing.
Well, I like Falco better. That's my excuse. Besides, I'd thought that GDL had blocked him at the time, and between the two Falco would be more likely to be town. At the time I had no idea that Mafia had a roleblocker. I changed my thoughts when he mentioned it hadn't been him though.As for the RBer role, he clearly mentions Meta Knight, but goes for Falco instead. This is truly interesting.
What? We're having juice? What kind? I'd like appleAnyway, onto the juicy bits.
Only because I didn't know why you'd voted for him. Neither of you had showed interest in him the day before and, as I'd mentioned later, it was a little late for pressure votes.Me and Pendio were the first two to vote for Poka yesterday.
Here Dekunut calls me and Pendio out for voting Poka and putting him out in front at the start of the day.
Yes, I defended him. I'll admit my mistake. But I thought JC more scummy than Poka (to which it seems I was incorrect). Besides, it wasn't like I was the only one with that opinion. I was just the only person you're calling out for it.Deku again, defending Poka:
She'd brought up good points, but I wasn't completley convinced. It was enough to make me look at Poka differently though.Note how he tries to invalidate everyone's vote on Poka... When Heroine calls out Deku's analysis, Deku goes as far as IGMOEYing Poka. That's it...
He called me town because I was active and he had no reason to think that I was scum. The same with Heroine, Gummy, and Pendio.Here's Poka's scum list, and town list:
Yes. He called me town even though I'd stopped defending him. Is that so hard to believe? Some of the others were against him and some of them were with him. However, I am once again the only one of them you called out.He throws a lot of names out there, including LG who was town, but what stands out the most is that his most active defender, Deku Nut, is on his town list. At this point Deku however has actively stopped defending Poka after Heroine poked some holes into his analysis (the previous quote).
It was because of timing. We'd just learned that we had a commuter and suddenly someone comes out saying they're one. Interesting timing I think. However, when there was no counterclaim, I warmed up to the idea. With Poka, we had no idea that this kind of role existed at all, and it would take a lot of digging to find something like that. I somehow doubted a mafioso would go that far to fake claim. Obviously I was wrong.Deku Nut was initially very vocal about questioning the legitemacy of MF's commuter claim which I will post below the next quote, but here, however, he takes Poka terrible fake claim at face value, and immediately votes for JC.
How is saying that the mafia would try to lynch the commuter trying to weaken his claim?Below are his reactions to MF's claim:
Here he is trying to shed doubt on MF early on, before most of us were convinced MF was/is commuter.
For the first quote, yes. I was after him, for reasons I mentioned above. For the second one, I was just plain confused. I hadn't caught onto the whole Sonic thing, and I made an entire post after I realized it where all I posted was "Oooooooooooooo". Want me to find it for you?Not once does he pressure MF (as far as I've seen). He just tries to sow doubt, and then when most players say they believe MF, he moves on.
Anyway, the reason I moved on when people began to accept his claim was because I, too, began to accept his claim. Why would I keep going after him if I believed it?
That's because, while you don't need to have a PR to be important, it can definitely help. I wasn't sure what to think of you two, and I'm still not sure, but knowing where people's suspicions are coming from helps me out.There a bit more there, but I'm getting tired. Note as well how Deku Nut has been trying to grasp at roles too. Asking JC about his role, asking me if I had a PR, as if I'm some sort of day cop that got a guilty result on him before last night.
I don't think he defended me at all, firstly. And secondly, how were we both distant and close?Once Poka flipped scum, the obvious next choice is Deku nut, not because they played closely, but because how they seemed so distance and yet so close to each other during the last few days, and how quickly they acted to defend each other.
Good job bolding there.tl;dr: vote Deku Nut because walls of text.
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