In support of Hero of Time, he did say there's no way I was going to show up when he voted for me, implying that was a large part of his reasoning. So when I did show up, much of his reasoning would be gone. I'm not saying he isn't a little suspicious, but I don't think that is a valid reason... for anything.
=But I just had an epiphany. What if The SK, Vig, and mafia all targeted Kybyrian? That could also explain the lack of multiple deaths. He played a genius game last round, and had us all deceived.
Very possible. That's probably the most likely possibility out of the many different reasons it could have happened the way it did. Either way I'm not sure it matters. Figuring out why Ky was the only nightkill can't really help us since we have no way of determining what the reason for it is. If we knew it was because of roleblockers or something, then we could use it to form theories, but in this case we can't.
I noticed that too. Hero of Time seems to be flip flopping a lot and my suspicion of him is really starting to grow. <.<
One thing I'd like to note: Flip-flopping on votes is kind of a difficult thing to use as evidence as many "sheep" players (ones who don't form strong theories of their own but follow others because they're not as good at the game) have a tendency to do this. They don't form strong theories and are unsure of their own decisions. The problem is this is both indicative of newbie Townies and newbie Mafia; both could be doing this. So using that as evidence is basically a 50-50 tossup. Considering the number of newbie players in this game compared to the small number of Mafia, it might change to something like 60-40 or 80-20, the lower number being the possibility that he's Mafia. Not saying a lynch is a bad idea as such players aren't necessarily trustworthy either way (no one is really), just stating some facts.
And, there is a "real" possibility for anyone to be scum. For all we know, we could be on the COMPLETELY wrong track and Hero and Axel could both be townies. Narrowing your scope on who can "really" be scum is what got Awesome lynched and what lost the whole game for townies in round 2.
Truer words were never spoken. From experience, I can confirm that the strongest, surest evidence that someone is scum could prove to be wrong and the most innocent looking person could be guilty. If we're dealing with good Mafia here, then that is likely the case.
Lynching Axle now seems like a mistake. He's an invaluable asset to the townie cause. Honestly, HoT seems more suspicious. Granted, it seems more like he's just a follower, going where the current wind blows him, but still....
Yeah, just wanted to note this but in general, you have to weigh the value of the players. Additional, you should weigh threat. Take for example an experienced and a newbie player, both with suspicion on them. The experienced one is valuable, so killing him first might not be a good idea. But also consider that he's the most dangerous if he is guilty. Killing valuable players is generally not a good strategy, but if their suspicion is strong enough that player might be too much of a liability. Draw your own conclusions.
And then there's the fact that scum CAN potentially go "Power Role Hunting" as I like to call it. That's actually the whole reason Durion lasted till the end of the last game. Durion wasn't hurting them at the moment and they had leads on the Power Roles. They prioritized finding the Vig and other such roles over killing Durion.
Yes, and this is one reason that I think unless absolutely necessary we should not even speak of the various roles, for the pure reason of protecting him. With a few exceptions, I actually find role-spotting to be a suspicious thing overall. XP
Realistically maybe it isn't, since the Mafia would just nightkill, and wouldn't have much if any reason to bring it to the town, but either way I implore you guys to stay quiet about the special roles unless you need to say something to save someone or something.
Er, forgot to add this...
Bottom line, both kokirion and Hero of Time do look suspicious, but I'm not convinced it's for very solid reasons. They strike me as newbies. The question is are they newbie townies or mafia? It still might be worth a lynch all things considered. I'm not exactly comfortable voting for either unless there's more of an agreement though, because frankly I don't really care either way.
So until something changes...
Vote: No Lynch
don't turn things. You are just trying to make me suspicious of your own mistake. I would've thought "ok" if you didn't IGMEOY me, sorry but this in now an FOS.
