KrazyKyuubi
OH SNAPPLE
- Joined
- May 12, 2009
oh hey, i forgot i was on this.
so uh...what exactly is going on...?
so uh...what exactly is going on...?
I really hate my role.Oh well.I better not get killed at the beggining this time.Lets answer the questions then.
um... you arn't supposed to reveal anything about your role, and I know you know that because you have played games like this before. I know you were part of guild wars So the question is, was this a slip? Or are you purposfully trying to plant the see the you are just[I/] a townie and are unhappy with that?
The point is the "village idiots" are so random and difficult to understand that whether they let something slip or not is irrelevant. I've played games with these sorts of people. We've found ones that were Mafia and ones that were Townie, but it's very, very hard to figure out which is which. The line blurs a lot.I feel that the way to tell if these "villiage idiots" are scum or not is to read all of their posts in the game thread. If they are scum and go around posting so much, they are bound to let something slip eventually. If all of their posts are, for lack of a better word, spam, then there is a good chance they are just townies.
Numbers count, yes, unless those numbers are made up of useless players who make no sense. When they don't make sense there is no way to read them, and they become dangerous. Not to mention even the Townie ones can be dangerous as they act like sheep and are easily controlled by the Mafia.1) I think lynching them works against us. Numbers is what counts the most in this game. Number of townie vs number of scum. The more on the townie team, the better.
Thing is, them being inactive is in itself a suspicious quality. I don't think people should lynch based on one small thing, but yes, it is a suspicious quality that should not be ignored.2) I mostly see this a a random stab in the dark. Lynching simply because the are inactive is a bad idea imo, again choking up numbers. But if there is other suspicousness about them, i think it is a great move.
There is no such thing as evidence in Mafia. It doesn't exist. There are theories, including theories backed by strong reasoning and analysis, but there is no such thing as solid evidence. Even the most obvious scum could end up being Townie or vice-versa. Don't go into this game thinking you have to wait until we're sure, because we will never be.The only thing about these two types of people are that both are a waste of a lynch if there is no real evidence. Gives the mafia a free kill, which we all experienced to much in the last game.
I can somewhat agree. There are people who need to be given a chance. But we still can't be sure if they're innocent or not because they could be scum who learn how to play as well.Concerning the village idiots/lurkers issue, I have a couple of points to make.
1. Sure, this is a good way to lynch someone, but not alone. And I stress this for good reason. Sure, they may seem stupid at the beginning, but they may turn out to be a helpful asset. Look at Zenox last game, he was acting pretty stupidly and suspiciously at the beginning, but as he calmed down, he became pretty valuable. So before you vote someone who is acting this way, make sure you've got some more evidence first.
I understand where you're coming from, but the fact is that Mafia is an intense game, and unfortunately one that does require a fair amount of activity.2. No. No. No. That is all I can say. Mafia is not the only thing in the world. We have school, work, and generally stuff that keeps Mafia out of our minds. And by the time that we remember and log on - we've been lynched. Great. And when you aren't there to defend yourself, everyone else grows more suspicious, then when you're lynched and turn out to be the Vigilante or something, they facepalm at their own stupidity. Now I'm not encouraging people to lie low, that is a bad idea, and I'm not saying that all Mafia are active, because they aren't, but idleness alone is not a good way to win. Not a way to win, period.
Agreed 100%.And while we're on this subject, I would like to disencourage people to 'jump on the bandwagon,' as it is called, and vote just because everyone else is. You need to be convinced that this is the guy/girl you want.
I really hate my role.Oh well.I better not get killed at the beggining this time.Lets answer the questions then.
1)Well,I think the people who would act this way are either incredibly bad at the game,or aren't taking the game seriously.Those are both most likely to be townie,so I don't think it's a good idea.
2)Being inactive alone isn't grounds for a lynch,but it can be used as evidence,and put someone under suspicion.So no,unless you have more evidence.
I really hate my role.Oh well.I better not get killed at the beggining this time.
There is no such thing as evidence in Mafia. It doesn't exist. There are theories, including theories backed by strong reasoning and analysis, but there is no such thing as solid evidence. Even the most obvious scum could end up being Townie or vice-versa. Don't go into this game thinking you have to wait until we're sure, because we will never be.
QFT
Question for mod (or anyone else who knows): Are the rules implying that there will always be a lynch even if a majority is not reached? I've always played that if you don't have a majority vote by deadline, then no one is lynched. Can you also vote NO LYNCH?
The problem is that "inactivity" can be used by the Mafia, they pretend like they are inactive while the village is only lynching the active players (most of the townies in this case) so I'm really glad people will get modkilled when they don't post in 3 days. 3 days are to short to play inactive.
@chise, have you ever played Guild Wars? In that game almost the half of everyone is scum but the game still takes at least a month. It's not that fast
No one's saying we have to be certain who's mafia beyond a shadow of a doubt before lynching. But there's a reason some of us are discouraging randomly targeting members, regardless of activity, in the first day.