2) I mean like... ok. Pretend for a second I'm town. I really don't know what I'm supposed to do other than kill you because of this. I'm not the biggest fan of just blindly following Occam's Razor but like...
can you give me an instance where you did actually prevent a mafia/serial killer kill on n1 when you were the doctor who was specifically targeting someone who a vigilante would target? What do you do if you stop an actual vigilante from shooting someone who is squarely in the POE?
Not off the top of my head, I can't. I don't have a lexicon of past games, and memory isn't my strong suit unless I am learning lines for a play or learning rules for a game.
But I will say as to your what is I stopped a vigilante point: honestly, vigilantes who fire shots N1 are just as bad as SKs and almost always hit Town. Stopping one of them is just as pro-town as stopping an SK or Mafia hit in my book. And targeting someone who people were obviously gunning for the previous day (as evident by the voting) is a good way to increase your odds of successfully protecting someone in any event.
I'm willing to have a conversation with you on the presupposition that you're town, sure, regardless of whether my thoughts say otherwise.
3) I know that if you're town that you don't know what happened with your n1. I'm not asking you to tell me what happened because I know its likely an impossible ask if you're town. I'm just asking you to respond, I guess.
Respond to what, though? To try and guess at what happened? I have. I have suggested Strongman, Roleblocking, or even a double hit (SK and Mafia both hit Mido). I don't think there are any other possible options, but I could be wrong. I admit, some of those (Strongman N1 use) seems like a bad and unlikely play.
4) Depends on whether the assumptions are right or not, I suppose. I had quite a strong case of culture clash when I first played here, I still think a lot of things here (such as Millers knowing they are millers) is quite ridiculous, and I've tried to tone down assuming what will happen because of more experience with communities that I am less familiar with compared to my home...(s...?)
Yeah. Same. In general, I do well on NGA, but that doesn't mean I will also do well here (though I have made it to Day 3 so yay?). But also, I am a better designer than I am a player. I'm always a big picture kinda guy. I struggle to see the little pictures that are often required when playing. This is commentary that has no bearing on our current situation though. Not unwelcome commentary, just not necessarily useful either.
5) You can be with Kirino, for starters. Your NLP makes it so that you must be telling the truth about not targeting, or you've decided to break it, which isn't worth really talking about, so I'll just accept it at face value. You have to admit that your NLP is not doing you any favors here.
My NLP is not doing me any favours here, no. I haven't played in open setups very often, and in fact this game has made me question whether or not to play in open setups (or at least with my NLP) in the future.
If I were scum, a scum team of me and Kirino probably makes sense in your eyes, sure. Heck, I'm not sure that Kirino isn't scum along with you and Rubik, it would make a lot of sense, given his hesitation to claim, and the convenience of his claim supporting Rubik's. Like, the whole thing falls apart if you and rubik and kirino are scumbros and one of you is a tailor or you are a godfather. Nothing that we've "confirmed" is confirmed at all with a Rubik/Sun/Kirino team. Kirino is not out of the woods at all, no matter which way you slice it.
Rubik and Kirino both being last to claim is also not unnoticed.
I don't know the role layout of the mafia team, so I can't really explain why you wouldn't deliver the night KP, but I think you're slightly misunderstanding what I'm talking about here. I'm not talking about you specifically going and killing Moe, but rather, you saying to your team that you think its a good idea. I do not labor under the misapprehension that only a single mafia member makes the nightkill, but I am saying its more likely for a team with you on it to make what was honestly a pretty respectable kill last night. A Goon isn't always the best person to send to make a nightkill, happens all the time to be honest.
Okay, but like, in most setups he who performs the mafia kill doesn't also get to use their abilities, yeah? Operating under that assumption, not sending the Goon means you either have more than one Goon (unlikely if the Town has so many power roles), or giving up firing your Tailor/Roleblock/What have you. Right?
I dunno. It just doesn't make sense to me. SMS' statement that it was done to frame me makes a lot MORE sense. And in a world where you're arguing that the most logical thing is to kill me, why are you ignoring that the most logical answer as to why Moe died is to frame me?
maybe you can try to find the third after Rubik and I from your perspective
there's a good chance that whoever you try to pair us with* is a lot more killable today than either of us
This is a fair point.
There is no future where I convince enough people to lynch Sun or Rubik today, but ALL OF US seem to suspect Kirino.
Can we at least lynch Kirino toDay instead and then re-assess whether I am scum or Sun is scum tomorrow? Please?
