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Hylia Worship: Does it still Exist?

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Devised and Written by: Spiritual Mask Salesman, and Linkle
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Religion is considered to be pivitol in reality, it gives us insight on how our ancestors in the past lived, how they thought, and what myths and laws were commonplace in the past. When analysing ancient religions we usually find that simple religions, such as monothestic ones, tend to last longer than complex Polythestic religions. Keeping that in mind, Linkle and I wonder why Hylia worship would have died out in Hyrule, it seems more likely that Hylia worship would stay strong in the land due to how simple it is. Why would polythestic based worship become dominant over a monothestic one?

There have been various dieties amoung the many canon Zelda games, one which always stood out to us, in particular, is Hylia — she seemed like a very important religious figure during her time, and even thousands of years afterward on Skyloft. We know she obviously was very important, in fact the Hylians derived the name of their race (after Skyward Sword) from her name. Although in later games it seems worship for Hylia has faded from Hyrule, what could have happened? She was such an important diety, why would worship for her stop? Together Linkle and myself have devised a theory which we believe will explain what happened to monothesthic worship for Hylia, and if it even could still exist in Hyrule, but foremost we will cover how the three goddesses tie in.

Note: All of our theorizing will be done from an in-universe point of view, meaning that we are looking at this theory as if Hyrule was real; therefore, developer intent does not matter. This is extremely important, as doing it any other way would open up the argument that most games that take place after Skyward Sword in the timeline were actually created before it, and thus Hylia could not have been mentioned in them. We thank you for joining us today and hope you will enjoy our theory!

We will begin around the time of Skyward Sword, the status of the three goddesses at this point is important and worth noting; they are often refered to as “old gods” which indicates that their popularity was fading.

“Her second plan...was to abandon her divine form and transfer her soul to the body of a mortal. ...She made this sacrifice, as you have likely guessed, so that the supreme power created by the old gods could one day be used. For while the supreme power of the Triforce was created by gods, all of its power can never be wielded by one." — Zelda (Skyward Sword)

“Handed down by gods of old, this power gave its holder the means to make any desire a reality. Such was the might of the ultimate power that the old ones placed it in the care of the goddess.” — Fi (Skyward Sword, intro text)

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We do know that there is undocumented history predating even the creation of skyloft, which is atleast thousands of years old itself.

“Allow me tell you about the history of Skyloft! Skyloft is an island that has floated here for ages... Thousands of years. Our ancestors have always lived on this island, as well as the surrounding islands in the sky." — Owlan (Skyward Sword)

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We aren't even sure how far back history might go in this case, considering the great advancements in technology the ancient people achieved (harnessing timeshift stones as energy) they would have atleast been around a considerable amount of time to reach such a level, a level which their descendants in the future would never match again. Maybe mutiple centuries had passed and during the time of Hylia, worship for the goddesses, and possibly a whole epoch unknown to us, was coming to an end. the people may have even began worshipping other dieties. To prevent the people they had created from straying from them, maybe even forgetting about them, the goddesses set Hylia as a diety not only to protect the Triforce, but maybe also to maintain an indirect link to the goddesses for the people?

Now we shift foward in time after Skyward Sword; Hylia worship has faded, the goddesses are popular again; why? Skyward Sword was heavily centered around the Triforce. Searching for it, finding it, and using it was crucial in order to destroy Demise. Afterward the surface was repopulated, legends of the Triforce never faded, and in mutiple games wars are menetioned to have broke out for the Triforce.

"But soon, word of the Sacred Realm spread through Hyrule, and a great battle ensued..." — Lanayru (Twlight Princess)

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The Triforce allures almost everyone. Linkle and I believe that through the Triforce the three goddesses grew in popularity again. Credited as the makers of the Triforce this would make them well renowned in a land were Triforce lore captivates all. Consequently to believe in the Triforce requires one to also believe that the three goddesses are real, in the Wind Waker we see an example of this.

"Gods of the Triforce! Hear that which I desire! Hope! I desire hope for these children! Give them a future! Wash away this ancient land of Hyrule! Let a ray of hope shine on the future of the world!!!" — King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule (Wind Waker)

The King acknowledges the goddesses before making his wish, even Ganondorf does it in the game proir to the King making a wish. We have no doubt that the Triforce is what revived worship for the three goddesses in Hyrule. How exactly does this all play out in terms of Hylia worship?

We know for a fact that Hylia worship must have faded because there are there no shrines or temples dedicated to Hylia in games after Skyward Sword. This suggests that either her followers no longer exist, they are few, or they were converted and any temples for Hylia were re-purposed.

Our intial thoughts are that Hylia Worship could have eventually become more or less political leadership via the Royal Family, and less of a religion that is worshipped. Afterall Zelda is Hylia reborn as a mortal, and that bloodline is maintained within the Royal Family. The Royal Family basically performs most of the same duties Hylia did. They keep order in the land, and hide the Triforce along with any ancient relics or knowledge that can lead to it. Hylia Worship may have evolved into that, more or less leadership, a monarchy, rather than being a religion. In ways the Royal Family is worshipped, but not like dieties or anything. That is likely what happened to Hylia worship, but there is still a possibility it lived on as a religion.

Digging into the idea of the religion changing, there are only two dieties in games after Skyward Sword we know nothing about who could be Hylia. There is a snake diety we see in the Gerudo Colossus, and in Majora's Mask there are references to a “Goddess of Time”. The snake diety we don't even know the name of, it's likely it is just a random diety they created overtime. Still it isn't uncommon to see the appearence and depiction of a diety change in reality — maybe this is what happened with Hylia? The “Goddess of Time” diety seems like it could be Hylia, the title certainly does sound like it could fit her. The only issue is the reference is so vague, ontop of that the diety is never menetioned outside of Majora's Mask. We do know that Zelda did reference the diety, as this quote will show.

"The Goddess of Time is protecting you. If you play the Song of Time, she will aid you..." — Princess Zelda (Majora's Mask)

At the same time it seems that the people of Termina also know about the same diety, making her non-exclusive to the land of Hyrule like Hylia should be.

"Somebody! Anybody!!! Goddess of Time, help us please! We need more time!" — Tatl (Majora's Mask)

"Only a little more than two days left...Oh, Goddess of Time, please save me..." — Man in Oceanside Spider House (Majora's Mask)

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Hylia could be associated with time; she not only created the two Gates of Time, but her human reincarnation, Zelda, could activate and open them by singing and playing her song, the Ballad of the Goddess, on the Goddess' Harp. One of the Gates resided within the Sealed Temple, A.K.A. the Temple of Hylia, which would one day become the Temple of Time — if there is a temple dedicated to this Goddess of Time in Hyrule it'd be likely that the Temple of Time would be it. Furthermore, in Ocarina of Time Zelda was the one to teach Link the Song of Time, the Ocarina of Time looks like it is made of Timeshift Stones, Hyrule Historia even hints toward it, and also was the Seventh Sage, whom many believe to be a “Sage of Time”. She also possesses the Triforce of Wisdom, which connects her to the Goddess of Wisdom, Nayru. Now whether Hylia is this “Goddess of Time” we can't be certain, we can assume that she is but we still can't explain how the people of Termina might now of her.

There really is no conclusive evidence to back that any of these random dieties — who we know nothing about — could be Hylia, although this same lack of evidence still keeps the debate open. Linkle and I agree that Hylia worship may still exhist in Hyrule and has either took on a different form as leadership through the Royal Family, or just lost popularity eventually fading to have very few followers left.
 
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I just wanna point out, for all we know the three goddess' who created that triforce coulda been in fact gods but over time as Fi herself says, legends passed down tend to change so the gods coulda have been goddess' or vice versa but in SS we see that no one knows of the Triforce properly bar i believe the academy master and Levias and the dragons. So i'd imagine the fact the three gods/goddess' were called the Old Gods due to the fact names are generally the first lost in oral repetition and the people of SkyLoft Don't appear to read much. Of Course when the Triforce was revealed as truth people had to rename the gods and so named them as goddess' and gave them their names. In the mean time the individual goddess Hylia was slowly forgotten about, likely as first a protector of the Triforce along side Link but as time went on Hylia was forgotten about and her power became known as the Light Force and even then over time this power has waned to the point by WW the royal family had to flee from ganondorf's assault due to no hero backing her up.

In Termina it's a parallel dimension yet everyone there knows of a "goddess of time" but can't name her yet Zelda in that flashback scene not only teaches you the Song of Time (how link forgot it i don't know, as he's able to go back and forth with the master sword) What i figure is that Zelda is the Sage of Time not only due to the fact she can send link back in time via the ocarina but also due to her connection to the Goddess of Time yup I think Hylia is the Goddess of Time just her original name is forgotten. I also think the reason zelda says "may the goddess of time look after you" (or something to that effect), is due to her reaching out to her other side the goddess side. I think The Goddess side of Zelda was Waning by the time of OOT and failing by MM due to the fact we don't see any other time based abilities at all coming from her (Ciela doesn't count) and she used the last of her power to keep link safe on his journey.
 

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Great theory. You already know my thoughts, but I'll just explain my stance purely on the Hylia worship fading over time.

First off, I think any worship of a deity changes over time and it might depend on the specific era or how far along we are in history. Religion and worship can grow, as showcased in human history, but it can also diminish as well. It's hard to compare it to our world exactly, because a lot of people use science to disprove religion and that doesn't exactly happen in Hyrule. Magic is still a pretty evident theme as well as God-like relics (the Triforce for example), so belief in deities is going to be common among pretty much everyone. However, like you pointed out, the worship seems to be for the original Golden Goddesses and not Hylia herself. Now I have a couple of theories why this could be the case.

First, to explain why Hylia is a the main figure of worship during the beginning days of Hyrule (actually before it was called Hyrule), and not the Goddesses, we have to look at this logically. The populace of the earth are actually witnessing a living breathing God with their own eyes. There's a difference between believing in a faceless God who you maybe /think/ exists because of past tales, and a God you can actually see and talk to. To me this perfectly explains why Hylia was worshipped more so than the three Goddesses.

Now as for the strange occurrence of Hylia almost disappearing in remembrance, I think there's an explanation for this too. Hylia is no longer a God (angelic being), she made herself mortal and so lives on through the bloodline of the original Zelda. Why does Hyrule all of a sudden have a Royal Family? I mean a Royal Family, isn't your local mayor or political leader, their people who are worshipped. So in a sense, Hylia's worship lives on through the worshipping of the Royal Family. The land was named after her: Hy (Hylia) + Rule (Royal Family) and the humans were named after her too.

The only thing left to really answer is why exactly do Din, Farore a day Nayru become popular again? Well, if you think about it, where does the worship of the Golden Goddesses actually come from. The Triforce of course. This powerful relic is living proof of their power and it attracts people to it. We know that Hylia was told to watch over this and protect it and we also know she had it away deep within a hidden temple. So I think she didn't just do this to protect it from Demise, but to protect to inhabitants of the world of its power. People seem to have this blind lust towards the Triforce, so maybe this was wisdom on Hylia's behalf to hide it. So if the Triforce is hidden, why would people have reason to worship the Golden Goddesses? We see this in games in the series where the Triforce isn't a main theme. And if you also look at times where the Triforce is on show, bad things happen. The Era of Chaos for example and the aftermath of the Golden Era, which ends with most of Hyrule destroyed. It seems that worship of the Golden Goddesses peaks at times when the Triforce is used as an heirloom of Hyrule.
 

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I forgot to add in a brief section about the Goddess Statue. What happened to it? It obviously served as an important landmark and held great religious significance for the Skyloftians. At the end of Skyward Sword the statue is reunited with the surface, but in later games it's gone.

We know that the Interloper war happened at some point, and there was also a Hyrule Unification war, both probably happening roughly within the same century. I believe the statue was destoyed in the fighting, but wasn't rebuilt because Hylia worship, in terms of how it was in Skyward Sword, diminished. Rebuilding the statue was probably seen as a waste of funds, materials, and time.
 
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Now as for the strange occurrence of Hylia almost disappearing in remembrance, I think there's an explanation for this too. Hylia is no longer a God (angelic being), she made herself mortal and so lives on through the bloodline of the original Zelda. Why does Hyrule all of a sudden have a Royal Family? I mean a Royal Family, isn't your local mayor or political leader, their people who are worshipped. So in a sense, Hylia's worship lives on through the worshipping of the Royal Family. The land was named after her: Hy (Hylia) + Rule (Royal Family) and the humans were named after her too.
This is what I thought of as well and I think it all makes really good sense.

I also do think it's likely that the Sand Goddess that the Gerudo worship is based on Hylia originally, and there are even associations with time and sand and all that.
 

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I forgot to add in a brief section about the Goddess Statue. What happened to it? It obviously served as an important landmark and held great religious significance for the Skyloftians. At the end of Skyward Sword the statue is reunited with the surface, but in later games it's gone.

We know that the Interloper war happened at some point, and there was also a Hyrule Unification war, both probably happening roughly within the same century. I believe the statue was destoyed in the fighting, but wasn't rebuilt because Hylia worship, in terms of how it was in Skyward Sword, diminished. Rebuilding the statue was probably seen as a waste of funds, materials, and time.
Yeah the Era of Chaos probably led to the destruction of most things since the Triforce was nearly taken.
 

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I believe the reason Hylia's Statue was destroyed was more than likely due to war. The reason it was not rebuilt was more than likely twofold (a) the economic state did not allow for it after times of war (b) the royal family had no issues burying the past of anyone knowing Hylia had incarnated into Zelda.
At this point the Ancient Sages forgot about the Goddess statue and wanted to put the Sacred Realm under lock and key as priority one, seeing so much blood was shed in lust for the Triforce already (between the Interlopers and the Unification War)

As for the Desert Colossus, Sheik/ Zelda calls her "A Goddess in the sand". It could be another depiction of Hylia, though one has to wonder if the Gerudo would worship Goddess Hylia as the Hylians did. The depiction seems to be the opposite aside from the sex being female; scales rather than wings, scantily clothed rather than covered, of the sand rather than the sky. Another query that comes to mind is if it's not the Goddess Hylia, why the Hylians didn't just destroy it rather than leaving it in the Arbiter's Grounds once they'd taken over the desert - presuming that they did as the Gerudo in TP are nowhere to be found, not even as spectres in the Twilight.
 

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