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That's fine if you think like that, but Diddy is currently considered the best character in the game (and recently won the biggest Sm4sh tournament) and I don't see that changing any time soon unless there is another balance batch. As for Link and Toon Link, well Toon Link was clearly better in...

Tier lists are only meant for competitive play. And currently, for Smash 4, competitive play is defined as 2/3 stock, 5/8 minutes, items off, customs off, and only on Battlefield, FD, Smashville, Town & City, Lylat Cruise, Duck Hunt, Skyloft, Castle Siege, Delfino Plaza, Halberd, and Kongo...

^ Yeah idk what's up with that.

Some interesting news. Seems like Battlefield is playable in For Glory now!

It's just so that it can be released in time for Black Friday. If it weren't for Black Friday, I'm sure it would have been released around the same time as the other versions.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U just got a release date. It's November 21st for NA, December 5th for EU, December 6th for AUS/NZ/JAPAN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0XfJJjAY6c&feature=youtu.be

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So there is some good info on Smash 4 for 3DS so far (for those of you who may want to play it competitively). Smasher ZeRo has uploaded some videos about this such as: Lack of chain grabs Info about the ledge Some characters: Mario, Link, Mega Man, Villager, and Pikachu. Enjoy.

Leak deconfirmed :right:

Why would they put in Young Link and have 3 Links? Bowser Jr. would definitely be a better choice to include in the game.

How can you even call that a very well done fake, it's an awful fake (just looking at the roster pic here): - Characters all go up right to the edge - Black zone at either bottom corner, I highly doubt they would have chosen such a bad color to fill in the space - Duck hunt dog plz -...

I am 100% certain that the controls will be customizable. They were in Brawl (and I liked that a lot), so there is no reason it shouldn't return now. I myself would prefer L for Shield and R or X for Grab, so let's see.

Last time I checked, Ice Climbers were in their own top-tier also. Good chance they might return after making ultra sure that they don't have any broken grab combos.

Looks like someone's been paying a little attention to Ivysaur from Project M :right:

I'm not aware of any changed for Toon Link; I thought he was going to be pretty much identical to his Brawl self. Maybe I'm missing some info on this character, could you tell me?

How do you guys determine who your mains will be before even playing the game? Wouldn't you rather use the player that matches your playing style rather than force yourself to be good with a player you may not even like?

Yeah, this is the exact same thing that went through my head as I read the interview. I'm going to be disappointed for a while about this Lucina clone deal.

Good character reveals, still waiting on Jigglypuff and Ness to complete the original 12. By looking at a couple of Lucina's moves, she seems to be a clone of Marth which I don't really like. Oh well, maybe we'll get to see some more of her moves soon.

Wow guys, check this out! Here are the details of the Super Smash Bros. 4 Invitational Tournament! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQySEjyCUw&feature=youtu.be Nintendo did a good job picking out a fair number of girls. :right: I am surprised though that Mew2King isn't in this.

I like the split in online modes known as "For Fun" and "For Glory". As someone who plays Smash Bros competitively, For Glory is the way to go for online tournaments or friendlies who want to play at a competitive level. What concerns me is how Sakurai said that only Final Destination will the...

I don't think that was stated anywhere, was it (correct me if I'm wrong please)? Mewtwo can still come back - there is nothing wrong with having both Mewtwo and Lucario.

It's the random tripping that ruined was in Brawl.

Wii Fit trainer kind of reminds me of how Zero Suit Samus plays, I wonder if ZSS is still a playable character this time.