Hey there guys, going to be making a few changes with the Mafia section, and the first is this thread. This thread exists for us to discuss the game overall, as well as the general status of the Mafia section, recent games, players, strategies and roles, as well as talk about what kind of roles, themes, or just general game setups you'd like to see.
The first point of discussion I'd like to bring up (I'll remove this from the first post when it's no longer relevant), is the new setup for the Mafia section and how you can start games. I'd like everyone's input on what I have in mind before I put it in place.
What I want to do is abolish the current setup where we have these "officially sanctioned" games that I run or approve mods for, going over peoples' role setups and etc. before letting a game start, while other people make their own "unofficial" games anyway. It just doesn't make a lot of sense across the board, and I think at this point there's not a ton of need for this arbitration.
So I think I'd like it if from now on, people can simply start up and mod their own games as they please.
I think a certain degree of oversight is still necessary, but for the most part people can do what they want. The only thing I will do is take care of a queue of people who want to mod and simply tell them when they can, and otherwise they can do as they please. This would allow people to mod games as they'd like while preventing there from being too many games going at once. If at any point I've declared that the maximum number of games running at a time has been reached, but there are still plenty of people who want to play, all that needs to happen is everyone chimes in here in the discussion thread and I'll be like "ohhh okay next person, go ahead and start your signups". If people cause problems with their games, I.E., they've changed rules or details in the middle of their own game, cheated and helped certain players, or created very imbalanced games a few times, then and only then will I be barring them from modding their own games. Otherwise anyone is free to if they just wait in the queue.
tl;dr: Easy bulletpoints!
I do want to persist in having the Beginner's games but... I'm not sure if everyone would be comfortable with that going as it's been alongside the new system since that essentially would give me a monopoly over 1 game going on all the time. Perhaps we could return to having different mods for Beginner's Mafia, though if that's the case then those games I think would still need to be arbitrated somewhat even if other people mod them.
SO! Everyone weigh in! Does everyone like this idea, roughly anyway, or would you prefer it work a different way? I think this is the best system I can come up with overall (better than the current one) and has enough details in place to prevent any future issues whether they'll be needed or not (queuing to avoid flooding too many games and banning troublemaker game mods), but obviously with things like Beginner's Mafia, there's some bugs to work out. I'm sure I'm forgetting some details here and there, and either way I'm open to other ideas.
So tell me your thoughts!
The first point of discussion I'd like to bring up (I'll remove this from the first post when it's no longer relevant), is the new setup for the Mafia section and how you can start games. I'd like everyone's input on what I have in mind before I put it in place.
What I want to do is abolish the current setup where we have these "officially sanctioned" games that I run or approve mods for, going over peoples' role setups and etc. before letting a game start, while other people make their own "unofficial" games anyway. It just doesn't make a lot of sense across the board, and I think at this point there's not a ton of need for this arbitration.
So I think I'd like it if from now on, people can simply start up and mod their own games as they please.
I think a certain degree of oversight is still necessary, but for the most part people can do what they want. The only thing I will do is take care of a queue of people who want to mod and simply tell them when they can, and otherwise they can do as they please. This would allow people to mod games as they'd like while preventing there from being too many games going at once. If at any point I've declared that the maximum number of games running at a time has been reached, but there are still plenty of people who want to play, all that needs to happen is everyone chimes in here in the discussion thread and I'll be like "ohhh okay next person, go ahead and start your signups". If people cause problems with their games, I.E., they've changed rules or details in the middle of their own game, cheated and helped certain players, or created very imbalanced games a few times, then and only then will I be barring them from modding their own games. Otherwise anyone is free to if they just wait in the queue.
tl;dr: Easy bulletpoints!
- There will be no more official or unofficial games; there will just be games.
- Anyone can mod a game of their own and decide the details.
- Interested mods will sign-up in a thread and I will manage the queue.
- I'm thinking the two normal games + 1 beginner's game is working pretty good. So on average, 3 games at a time.
- If there are more people waiting than I realize, simply let me know in this thread.
- You can decide whether to bar or allow newbies and the like for your game at your own discretion.
- You may decide roles, rules, and other calls yourself, but must be fair and keep it balanced.
- If you wreck your own games by creating imbalances, ignoring or violating your own rules, or tipping the scales for certain players, you will be forbidden from modding in the future.
- You may only have one spot in the queue at a time, though as soon as your game starts, you can secure another spot. I just don't want one or two people dominating the queue when other people want to mod. If no one else wants to mod, then no problem.
I do want to persist in having the Beginner's games but... I'm not sure if everyone would be comfortable with that going as it's been alongside the new system since that essentially would give me a monopoly over 1 game going on all the time. Perhaps we could return to having different mods for Beginner's Mafia, though if that's the case then those games I think would still need to be arbitrated somewhat even if other people mod them.
SO! Everyone weigh in! Does everyone like this idea, roughly anyway, or would you prefer it work a different way? I think this is the best system I can come up with overall (better than the current one) and has enough details in place to prevent any future issues whether they'll be needed or not (queuing to avoid flooding too many games and banning troublemaker game mods), but obviously with things like Beginner's Mafia, there's some bugs to work out. I'm sure I'm forgetting some details here and there, and either way I'm open to other ideas.
So tell me your thoughts!