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I have an interesting theory regarding the Zelda Timeline, and I want to hear what other people think of it. A lot of people may not like it, but it fixes all the contradictions (at least the ones I’m aware of). And with the kinds of movies and such coming out now, I’m surprised no one else has thought of it (if people have, I’m not aware of it).



The main assumption made about the Zelda timeline that really messes things up is the assumption that it is one, single timeline, or continuity. A continuity with timeline splits, but still one universe.



Once we remove that assumption, everything becomes much easier to deal with. And that’s what I’ve done.



I believe we might be dealing with 4 different continuities, if you will.





The first I call The Original Continuity. It begins with the basic creation story we hear about in Ocarina of Time and the manual for A Link to the Past. The Goddesses make everything, and leave behind the Triforce, the Golden Power, and they place it in what became known as the Sacred Realm. The Kingdom of Hyrule was founded, and everyone lived in relative peace. As time went on, people began to search for the Sacred Realm, and people began going missing (presumably finding the Sacred Realm, but never attaining the Triforce).



Then comes along Ganondorf Dragmire, the King of the Gerudo Thieves. He sets out with a whole entourage to find the Sacred Realm and the Triforce. By the time they reach the realm where the Triforce lies, most of his Company is dead or gone. They reach the Triforce, and Ganondorf kills the remaining members of his group, and takes the Triforce for himself, becoming Ganon, the Demon King. He makes his wish on the Triforce to become a mighty king, and his laugh echoes through the world.



The King of Hyrule at the time, already concerned with all his subjects disappearing while hunting for the Triforce, also hears Ganondorf’s laugh, and decides to have the Seven Wise Men, or Seven Sages, to seal the Sacred Realm away from the rest of the world. Ganon doesn’t want that to happen, and sends his army of monsters, (which might be transformed people who hunted for the Triforce? Kind of like the Orcs in Lord of the Rings being twisted, corrupted Elves) and then the Knights of Hyrule battle them, making sure the Seven Sages can complete the seal. This is the Imprisoning War, and Ganon, the Triforce, and monsters are all sealed away. To prepare for combatting Ganon in the future, the Seven Wise Men create the Master Sword. As time goes on, the Seal begins to weaken, allowing Ganon’s influence to grow, including making a Phantom to act as his puppet, Agahnim.



This leads to the events of A Link to the Past. Link gets the Master Sword, travels to the Dark World, destroys Ganon, and wishes on the Triforce to undo everything Ganon did in the game. The Triforce is then kept safe by the Royal Family. Link’s Awakening occurs fairly soon after, while Link is off traveling.



Then, the Triforce summons either this Link, or a new Link, and sends him to the lands of Labrynna and Holodrum, and the Oracle games take place. The events of these games being plotted by the Twinrova sisters, Kotake and Koume, the twin witches who raised Ganondorf, who plot to bring him back. Link stops them from sacrificing Princess Zelda, and Kotake and Koume sacrifice themselves to bring Ganon back. Ganon then returns, but is quite stupid, and is easily destroyed. Peace then comes back to Hyrule.



We then have the events of A Link Between Worlds, which can go either between Link’s Awakening and the Oracle games, or after the Oracle games, depending on whether or not the Link from the Oracle games is the same hero from A Link to the Past, or A Link Between Worlds. Regardless, the events of ALBW occurs, Ganon returns, is fused with Yuga, and claims two of the Hyrulean Triforce pieces, but is defeated. Link and Zelda of this game then wish for the Lorulean Triforce to be restored, and all is well.



That same Link then goes to Hytopia for Tri Force Heroes, but that’s a minor event.



The Royal Family, with the full Triforce in their possession, rules over Hyrule and brings on a long, prosperous Golden Age for many generations. The last Golden Age King of Hyrule has two children, a son, who is a Prince, and Princess Zelda. The King sees that his son isn’t mature enough and righteous enough to be trusted with the full Triforce, so he then removes the Triforce of Courage and hides it within the Great Palace, where only he, the Sheikah, and his daughter Princess Zelda know of its presence. The King dies, and the Prince becomes the new King, but only inherits the Triforces of Power and Wisdom. With an evil sorcerer advising him (probably a Ganon cultist), the Prince interrogates Princess Zelda and tries to get her to divulge where the Triforce of Courage is. She won’t, and the Sorcerer uses his power to put her to sleep, before dying (presumably from the strain of his spell). The Prince has Zelda placed in a hidden chamber in the North Palace, sees the error of his ways and rules as a good king with the last two Triforce Pieces.



From then on, the Kingdom of Hyrule suffers a decline over time, and eventually, Ganon returns. With an army of monsters, Ganon takes the Triforce of Power, but the newest Princess Zelda splits the Triforce of Wisdom and hides it, before being captured. This starts of the story of the Original Legend of Zelda from ’86, which ends with Ganon being destroyed.



Several years later, the newest Link is charged by Impa to find the Triforce of Courage and awaken the Princess Zelda from the end of the Golden Age, all while avoiding being killed and sacrificed to bring back Ganon. Thus the events of The Adventure of Link occur, Princess Zelda is awakened, and all is well with Hyrule.



The End.





Next, we come to the Classic Continuity. It begins the same, with the Goddesses making everything, and leaving behind the Triforce. The Triforce is specifically handed over to the Goddess Hylia, to rule as the steward of the Goddesses Creation. Soon, the Demon King Demise rises from the ground with his Monsters, and tries to take the Triforce. This is the Ancient Battle, where Hylia seals Demise into the Sealing Grounds, and the Hylians are all sent up into Skyloft.



Years pass, and then Hylia is incarnate into a mortal Hylian, Zelda. The events of Skyward Sword occur, and Link, the Hero of the Sky, destroys Demise with the Master Sword, forged from the Goddess Sword, but not before Demise pronounces a curse, creating a cycle where his hatred returns to battle a new hero and a decendant of the Goddess Hylia.



Later, the Kingdom of Hyrule is established by decendants of the first Zelda, and some time after, an uprising occurs by people who, with dark magic, wish to take the Triforce. These people, the Interlopers, are sealed by the Light Spirits in a realm of perpetual twilight, and are forgotten. Meanwhile, the first group of Seven Sages seal the Triforce into the Sacred Realm, with the Sage of Light, Rauru, remaining with the Triforce to keep it safe.



Many years later, a civil war occurs. During this Civil War, the mother of the Hero of Time, the first Link within the cycle, brings Link to the Kokiri Forest while wounded, and dies. Link is raised among the Kokiri. The King of the Gerudo, Ganondorf, desires to take the lands of Hyrule for himself, and tries to take the Triforce from the Sacred Realm. Link is sent by the Deku Tree to try and stop Ganondorf, and Ocarina of Time takes place.



After the game is complete, this timeline splits. In one split, the Hero of Time returns back to his original time and warns everyone about Ganondorf’s intentions. Ganondorf is then captured and sentenced to be executed. However, since the Hero of Time went back in time with the Triforce of Courage in his possession (since the Triforce is not affected by time), the Triforce is split in the Sacred Realm and Ganondorf unwittingly obtains the Triforce of Power. He survives his execution and is sealed into the Twilight Realm.



The Hero of Time then goes on his journey to find the fairy Navi, and is pulled into the events of Majora’s Mask. After many years of his life pass, the Hero of Time dies and becomes the Hero’s Shade.



Some time later, Ganondorf eventually influences Zant, a rejected claimant for the Twili Throne, to escape the Twilight Realm and take over Hyrule. Twilight Princess occurs, and the Hero of Twilight defeats Ganondorf, thus ending this branch of the Classic Continuity.



In the other branch, the Kingdom of Hyrule the Hero of Time left behind continued on, and Ganondorf eventually broke free of his seal with the Triforce of Power, and attempted to take over again. Without the Hero of Time to stop Ganon, the people of Hyrule pleaded with the gods to help them. The gods then flooded Hyrule, with the survivors of Ganon’s destruction taking refuge on the mountain peaks, which became islands.



Much later, Ganondorf awakes at the bottom of the ocean, comes to the surface, and attempts to find the last two Triforce pieces. The Wind Waker takes place, Ganondorf is destroyed and left behind under the sea. A new landmass is eventually discovered, and the Kingdom of New Hyrule is established. A new Demon King, Malladus, is sealed away under the Spirit Tracks by the Locomo Tribe, the natives of this new land, and peace reigns for a time. However, the Spirit Tracks eventually start to disappear, triggering the events of Spirit Tracks. And this ends the last branch of the Classic Continuity.



The End.





The third continuity is one that I felt made more sense than integrating it into one of the other continuities. This is the Four Swords Continuity. It too, begins similarly to the others, with the Goddesses descending upon chaos and creating the world. However, this time we are not sure whether or not they left behind a Triforce. It’s possible they did, seeing how the Triforce symbol is on shields and architecture in this world, however in this continuity the Triforce symbol could very well be merely a symbol of the Golden Goddesses. We just don’t know.



Some time after creation, monsters appear and attack the people of the world. The Minish, also called the Picori, a diminutive race of powerful magic, gift the Hero of Men the Picori Blade, which he then uses to defeat the monsters and bring back peace.



Many years later, a Minish named Vaati, who is fascinated by evil power, takes possession of the Mage’s Cap and becomes human, and tries to find the Light Force, a magical item of great power. The events of Minish Cap play out, Vaati becomes an evil creature, and Link, the Hero of the Minish, forges the Four Sword and seals Vaati into it.



Much later, Vaati returns and sets about kidnapping maidens, before being defeated by an unknown hero who seals him into the Four Sword (we hear about this in the prologue crawl of Four Swords). A new Link eventually pulls the Four Sword and free’s Vaati, who kidnaps the new Princess Zelda. The new Link defeats Vaati and seals him away again during this game, Four Swords.



More time passes, and (once again) Ganondorf, the King of the Gerudo living in the Desert of Doubt, enters the Pyramid, takes the Evil Trident, and becomes Ganon, the King of Evil. After a Shadow version of the new Link tricks Link into pulling the Four Sword and freeing Vaati, the events of Four Swords Adventures take place. Vaati is destroyed, and Ganon is sealed into the Four Sword. This ends the Four Swords Continuity.



The End.





And now we come to the last Continuity, and the most recent one. This I call the Rebirth Continuity. Here, we have presumably the same origins of the world. The Goddesses decend and create everything, including the Goddess Hylia. Once their creation is complete, they leave behind some kind of Triforce. The exact nature of this version of the Triforce is as of yet unknown, but we do know it exists.



One of the creations of the Goddesses, and the race presumably with the closest connection to Goddess Hylia, is the Zonai. With their powerful magic, they can create all kinds of devices and items, such as the Secret Stones. Additionally, with their advanced magic, it is possible the Zonai were able to glimpse into other Continuities and view the events that took place. This is how they created items such as the Hero of Time Set, the Biggoron’s Sword, the Classic Set, and other items and clothing we can obtain in Tears of the Kingdom, and the Zonai, upon coming down to the Surface, most likely shared stories of the events of different Continuities, which is how this Rebirth Continuity has legends of the other worlds. The Zonai eventually descended upon the world of Hyrule, and Rauru, the Zonai King, became the first King of Hyrule. He and his Hylian Queen Sonia possessed Secret Stones, which amplified their abilities.



Ganondorf, the King of the Gerudo (again), resented the boring, peaceful world King Rauru had made. He wished for a world where he would rule absolute, and where heroes would constantly come to face him in glorious battle for all eternity (this is hinted at in all the language translations of Tears of the Kingdom except English). After feigning friendship (and being aware of Rauru’s suspicion), Ganondorf tricked them and killed Queen Sonia, taking her Secret Stone and becoming the Demon King. Rauru then assembled this continuities version of the Seven Sages, including himself and Princess Zelda from the future, and went to defeat Ganondorf. They ultimately failed, but not before Rauru sacrificed himself to seal Ganondorf in the Depths.



Time goes on, and the seal Rauru placed on Ganondorf slowly erodes, allowing more of Ganondorf’s power to leak out. This leaking power manifests itself several times in history as Calamity Ganon. 10,000 years before Breath of the Wild, the Sheikah craft incredible technology to help automate the process of beating Ganon, while the Princess Zelda and the Ancient Hero (who is either part Zonai, or wears the Hero’s Aspect to become one, kind of like the Fierce Deity Mask) defeat Calamity Ganon.



10,000 years later, all that Sheikah Tech is dug up and turned back on, ready to face the return of Calamity Ganon (which is most likely a new creation of Ganondorf’s power leaking out of Rauru’s now-weak seal). The current Princess Zelda can’t access the power of the Triforce inside her soul, and Calamity Ganon returns to corrupt the Sheikah machines, causing the Great Calamity. Zelda eventually accesses the Triforce and seals Ganon in Hyrule Castle, waiting for Link to awaken from the Shrine of Resurrection and return to weaken Ganon. Breath of the Wild takes place, and Calamity Ganon is destroyed.



Several years later, Zelda and Link descend below Hyrule Castle to investigate the origins of Gloom, a toxic substance, and find the sealed Ganondorf, held there by the thin, fragile remains of Rauru’s Seal. The Seal breaks, Zelda obtains Rauru’s Secret Stone, and is brought back in time to Hyrule’s Founding, where she helps King Rauru fight Ganondorf as the Sage of Time. In the present, Ganondorf returns and hides underground to regain his full strength, and the Master Sword is shattered. The Master Sword is sent back in time to Zelda, who then consumes her Secret Stone to become the Light Dragon and bathe the Master Sword in Light to heal it for thousands of years. In the present Tears of the Kingdom occurs, and Link, the Hero of the Wild, destroys Ganondorf, and peace returns to the world.



The End.





This Theory, kind of like a Multiverse idea, seems to explain practically all the confusing lore contradictions, such as the origin of the Master Sword. Another thing to note, is that things that may be in one continuity could also be in another, but not confirmed. For instance, the Minish in the Four Swords Continuity could also be present in the Classic Continuity, for instance. Demise could also exist in the Original and Rebirth Continuities as well. We just don’t know. There’s a lot of leeway with this theory, but it seems to make the most sense.



What do you all think about it? Does this sound plausible to you? Let me know, I’m interested to test the validity of this theory. Thanks!
 
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I believe we might be dealing with 4 different continuities, if you will.
We've barely started and this is by far the most sensible splitist theory I have ever seen. You are literally a brightbloom beacon of good Zelda theory on an otherwise gloom-covered landscape of insane arguments.

The first I call The Original Continuity. It begins with the basic creation story we hear about in Ocarina of Time and the manual for A Link to the Past. The Goddesses make everything, and leave behind the Triforce, the Golden Power, and they place it in what became known as the Sacred Realm. The Kingdom of Hyrule was founded, and everyone lived in relative peace. As time went on, people began to search for the Sacred Realm, and people began going missing (presumably finding the Sacred Realm, but never attaining the Triforce).



Then comes along Ganondorf Dragmire, the King of the Gerudo Thieves. He sets out with a whole entourage to find the Sacred Realm and the Triforce. By the time they reach the realm where the Triforce lies, most of his Company is dead or gone. They reach the Triforce, and Ganondorf kills the remaining members of his group, and takes the Triforce for himself, becoming Ganon, the Demon King. He makes his wish on the Triforce to become a mighty king, and his laugh echoes through the world.



The King of Hyrule at the time, already concerned with all his subjects disappearing while hunting for the Triforce, also hears Ganondorf’s laugh, and decides to have the Seven Wise Men, or Seven Sages, to seal the Sacred Realm away from the rest of the world. Ganon doesn’t want that to happen, and sends his army of monsters, (which might be transformed people who hunted for the Triforce? Kind of like the Orcs in Lord of the Rings being twisted, corrupted Elves) and then the Knights of Hyrule battle them, making sure the Seven Sages can complete the seal. This is the Imprisoning War, and Ganon, the Triforce, and monsters are all sealed away. To prepare for combatting Ganon in the future, the Seven Wise Men create the Master Sword. As time goes on, the Seal begins to weaken, allowing Ganon’s influence to grow, including making a Phantom to act as his puppet, Agahnim.



This leads to the events of A Link to the Past. Link gets the Master Sword, travels to the Dark World, destroys Ganon, and wishes on the Triforce to undo everything Ganon did in the game. The Triforce is then kept safe by the Royal Family. Link’s Awakening occurs fairly soon after, while Link is off traveling.



Then, the Triforce summons either this Link, or a new Link, and sends him to the lands of Labrynna and Holodrum, and the Oracle games take place. The events of these games being plotted by the Twinrova sisters, Kotake and Koume, the twin witches who raised Ganondorf, who plot to bring him back. Link stops them from sacrificing Princess Zelda, and Kotake and Koume sacrifice themselves to bring Ganon back. Ganon then returns, but is quite stupid, and is easily destroyed. Peace then comes back to Hyrule.



We then have the events of A Link Between Worlds, which can go either between Link’s Awakening and the Oracle games, or after the Oracle games, depending on whether or not the Link from the Oracle games is the same hero from A Link to the Past, or A Link Between Worlds. Regardless, the events of ALBW occurs, Ganon returns, is fused with Yuga, and claims two of the Hyrulean Triforce pieces, but is defeated. Link and Zelda of this game then wish for the Lorulean Triforce to be restored, and all is well.



That same Link then goes to Hytopia for Tri Force Heroes, but that’s a minor event.



The Royal Family, with the full Triforce in their possession, rules over Hyrule and brings on a long, prosperous Golden Age for many generations. The last Golden Age King of Hyrule has two children, a son, who is a Prince, and Princess Zelda. The King sees that his son isn’t mature enough and righteous enough to be trusted with the full Triforce, so he then removes the Triforce of Courage and hides it within the Great Palace, where only he, the Sheikah, and his daughter Princess Zelda know of its presence. The King dies, and the Prince becomes the new King, but only inherits the Triforces of Power and Wisdom. With an evil sorcerer advising him (probably a Ganon cultist), the Prince interrogates Princess Zelda and tries to get her to divulge where the Triforce of Courage is. She won’t, and the Sorcerer uses his power to put her to sleep, before dying (presumably from the strain of his spell). The Prince has Zelda placed in a hidden chamber in the North Palace, sees the error of his ways and rules as a good king with the last two Triforce Pieces.



From then on, the Kingdom of Hyrule suffers a decline over time, and eventually, Ganon returns. With an army of monsters, Ganon takes the Triforce of Power, but the newest Princess Zelda splits the Triforce of Wisdom and hides it, before being captured. This starts of the story of the Original Legend of Zelda from ’86, which ends with Ganon being destroyed.



Several years later, the newest Link is charged by Impa to find the Triforce of Courage and awaken the Princess Zelda from the end of the Golden Age, all while avoiding being killed and sacrificed to bring back Ganon. Thus the events of The Adventure of Link occur, Princess Zelda is awakened, and all is well with Hyrule.



The End.
So this is ALttP > LA > OoS > OoA > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2. Love it.

Next, we come to the Classic Continuity. It begins the same, with the Goddesses making everything, and leaving behind the Triforce. The Triforce is specifically handed over to the Goddess Hylia, to rule as the steward of the Goddesses Creation. Soon, the Demon King Demise rises from the ground with his Monsters, and tries to take the Triforce. This is the Ancient Battle, where Hylia seals Demise into the Sealing Grounds, and the Hylians are all sent up into Skyloft.



Years pass, and then Hylia is incarnate into a mortal Hylian, Zelda. The events of Skyward Sword occur, and Link, the Hero of the Sky, destroys Demise with the Master Sword, forged from the Goddess Sword, but not before Demise pronounces a curse, creating a cycle where his hatred returns to battle a new hero and a decendant of the Goddess Hylia.



Later, the Kingdom of Hyrule is established by decendants of the first Zelda, and some time after, an uprising occurs by people who, with dark magic, wish to take the Triforce. These people, the Interlopers, are sealed by the Light Spirits in a realm of perpetual twilight, and are forgotten. Meanwhile, the first group of Seven Sages seal the Triforce into the Sacred Realm, with the Sage of Light, Rauru, remaining with the Triforce to keep it safe.



Many years later, a civil war occurs. During this Civil War, the mother of the Hero of Time, the first Link within the cycle, brings Link to the Kokiri Forest while wounded, and dies. Link is raised among the Kokiri. The King of the Gerudo, Ganondorf, desires to take the lands of Hyrule for himself, and tries to take the Triforce from the Sacred Realm. Link is sent by the Deku Tree to try and stop Ganondorf, and Ocarina of Time takes place.



After the game is complete, this timeline splits. In one split, the Hero of Time returns back to his original time and warns everyone about Ganondorf’s intentions. Ganondorf is then captured and sentenced to be executed. However, since the Hero of Time went back in time with the Triforce of Courage in his possession (since the Triforce is not affected by time), the Triforce is split in the Sacred Realm and Ganondorf unwittingly obtains the Triforce of Power. He survives his execution and is sealed into the Twilight Realm.



The Hero of Time then goes on his journey to find the fairy Navi, and is pulled into the events of Majora’s Mask. After many years of his life pass, the Hero of Time dies and becomes the Hero’s Shade.



Some time later, Ganondorf eventually influences Zant, a rejected claimant for the Twili Throne, to escape the Twilight Realm and take over Hyrule. Twilight Princess occurs, and the Hero of Twilight defeats Ganondorf, thus ending this branch of the Classic Continuity.



In the other branch, the Kingdom of Hyrule the Hero of Time left behind continued on, and Ganondorf eventually broke free of his seal with the Triforce of Power, and attempted to take over again. Without the Hero of Time to stop Ganon, the people of Hyrule pleaded with the gods to help them. The gods then flooded Hyrule, with the survivors of Ganon’s destruction taking refuge on the mountain peaks, which became islands.



Much later, Ganondorf awakes at the bottom of the ocean, comes to the surface, and attempts to find the last two Triforce pieces. The Wind Waker takes place, Ganondorf is destroyed and left behind under the sea. A new landmass is eventually discovered, and the Kingdom of New Hyrule is established. A new Demon King, Malladus, is sealed away under the Spirit Tracks by the Locomo Tribe, the natives of this new land, and peace reigns for a time. However, the Spirit Tracks eventually start to disappear, triggering the events of Spirit Tracks. And this ends the last branch of the Classic Continuity.



The End.
I would split this into two continuities: one where OoT happened, and one where AT OoT Link crossed continuities in a meta sense.

Classic: SS > OoT > WW > PH > ST

Erased: SS > MM > TP

That's just me thought, I understand if you'd want to keep a timeline split, though I think part of the appeal of a Contunuity Model you've set up is that every universe's time remains linear the whole way through.

The third continuity is one that I felt made more sense than integrating it into one of the other continuities. This is the Four Swords Continuity. It too, begins similarly to the others, with the Goddesses descending upon chaos and creating the world. However, this time we are not sure whether or not they left behind a Triforce. It’s possible they did, seeing how the Triforce symbol is on shields and architecture in this world, however in this continuity the Triforce symbol could very well be merely a symbol of the Golden Goddesses. We just don’t know.



Some time after creation, monsters appear and attack the people of the world. The Minish, also called the Picori, a diminutive race of powerful magic, gift the Hero of Men the Picori Blade, which he then uses to defeat the monsters and bring back peace.



Many years later, a Minish named Vaati, who is fascinated by evil power, takes possession of the Mage’s Cap and becomes human, and tries to find the Light Force, a magical item of great power. The events of Minish Cap play out, Vaati becomes an evil creature, and Link, the Hero of the Minish, forges the Four Sword and seals Vaati into it.



Much later, Vaati returns and sets about kidnapping maidens, before being defeated by an unknown hero who seals him into the Four Sword (we hear about this in the prologue crawl of Four Swords). A new Link eventually pulls the Four Sword and free’s Vaati, who kidnaps the new Princess Zelda. The new Link defeats Vaati and seals him away again during this game, Four Swords.



More time passes, and (once again) Ganondorf, the King of the Gerudo living in the Desert of Doubt, enters the Pyramid, takes the Evil Trident, and becomes Ganon, the King of Evil. After a Shadow version of the new Link tricks Link into pulling the Four Sword and freeing Vaati, the events of Four Swords Adventures take place. Vaati is destroyed, and Ganon is sealed into the Four Sword. This ends the Four Swords Continuity.



The End.
So MC > FS > FSA. This is obviously a popular clumping, fixing the abysmal FSA placement, and makes sense.

My only objections are where does Ganon come from, you know? Without a tri-partite Triforce wielder, why is he there?

And then also I would put this before ALttP and just have Ganon unsealed from the Four Sword by one of his minions pre-ALttP: In the canon A Link to the Past + Four Swords game, Ganon ends up with the Four Sword in his pyramid. I do not know why or how this happens, but it could be explained here? Idk.

And now we come to the last Continuity, and the most recent one. This I call the Rebirth Continuity. Here, we have presumably the same origins of the world. The Goddesses decend and create everything, including the Goddess Hylia. Once their creation is complete, they leave behind some kind of Triforce. The exact nature of this version of the Triforce is as of yet unknown, but we do know it exists.



One of the creations of the Goddesses, and the race presumably with the closest connection to Goddess Hylia, is the Zonai. With their powerful magic, they can create all kinds of devices and items, such as the Secret Stones. Additionally, with their advanced magic, it is possible the Zonai were able to glimpse into other Continuities and view the events that took place. This is how they created items such as the Hero of Time Set, the Biggoron’s Sword, the Classic Set, and other items and clothing we can obtain in Tears of the Kingdom, and the Zonai, upon coming down to the Surface, most likely shared stories of the events of different Continuities, which is how this Rebirth Continuity has legends of the other worlds. The Zonai eventually descended upon the world of Hyrule, and Rauru, the Zonai King, became the first King of Hyrule. He and his Hylian Queen Sonia possessed Secret Stones, which amplified their abilities.



Ganondorf, the King of the Gerudo (again), resented the boring, peaceful world King Rauru had made. He wished for a world where he would rule absolute, and where heroes would constantly come to face him in glorious battle for all eternity (this is hinted at in all the language translations of Tears of the Kingdom except English). After feigning friendship (and being aware of Rauru’s suspicion), Ganondorf tricked them and killed Queen Sonia, taking her Secret Stone and becoming the Demon King. Rauru then assembled this continuities version of the Seven Sages, including himself and Princess Zelda from the future, and went to defeat Ganondorf. They ultimately failed, but not before Rauru sacrificed himself to seal Ganondorf in the Depths.



Time goes on, and the seal Rauru placed on Ganondorf slowly erodes, allowing more of Ganondorf’s power to leak out. This leaking power manifests itself several times in history as Calamity Ganon. 10,000 years before Breath of the Wild, the Sheikah craft incredible technology to help automate the process of beating Ganon, while the Princess Zelda and the Ancient Hero (who is either part Zonai, or wears the Hero’s Aspect to become one, kind of like the Fierce Deity Mask) defeat Calamity Ganon.



10,000 years later, all that Sheikah Tech is dug up and turned back on, ready to face the return of Calamity Ganon (which is most likely a new creation of Ganondorf’s power leaking out of Rauru’s now-weak seal). The current Princess Zelda can’t access the power of the Triforce inside her soul, and Calamity Ganon returns to corrupt the Sheikah machines, causing the Great Calamity. Zelda eventually accesses the Triforce and seals Ganon in Hyrule Castle, waiting for Link to awaken from the Shrine of Resurrection and return to weaken Ganon. Breath of the Wild takes place, and Calamity Ganon is destroyed.



Several years later, Zelda and Link descend below Hyrule Castle to investigate the origins of Gloom, a toxic substance, and find the sealed Ganondorf, held there by the thin, fragile remains of Rauru’s Seal. The Seal breaks, Zelda obtains Rauru’s Secret Stone, and is brought back in time to Hyrule’s Founding, where she helps King Rauru fight Ganondorf as the Sage of Time. In the present, Ganondorf returns and hides underground to regain his full strength, and the Master Sword is shattered. The Master Sword is sent back in time to Zelda, who then consumes her Secret Stone to become the Light Dragon and bathe the Master Sword in Light to heal it for thousands of years. In the present Tears of the Kingdom occurs, and Link, the Hero of the Wild, destroys Ganondorf, and peace returns to the world.



The End.
And then the classic BotW > TotK.


So yours is

OC: ALttP > LA > OoS > OoA > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2

CC: SS > OoT / WW > PH > ST \ MM > TP

FSC: MC > FS > FSA

RBC: BotW > TotK

and I would suggest

OC: MC > FS > FSA > ALttP > (LA > OoS > OoA) > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2

CC: SS > OoT > WW > PH > ST

EC: SS > MM > TP

RBC: BotW > TotK

though the CC vs. EC might go against the point of your continuities by both having SS.

The next part is for fun, you can skip if you'd like...
Even further, I would condense:

OC: SS > TotK Backstory > MC > FS > FSA > ALttP > (LA > OoS > OoA) > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2 > BotW > TotK

CC: OoT > WW > PH > ST

EC: MM > TP

and even further:

OC: SS > OoT > WW > PH > ST > TotK Backstory > MC > FS > FSA > ALttP > (LA > OoS > OoA) > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2 > BotW > TotK

EC: MM > TP

and even further:

OC: SS > OoT > MM > WW > PH > ST > TotK Backstory > MC > FS > FSA > ALttP > (LA > OoS > OoA) > ALBW > TFH > Z1 > Z2 > BotW > TotK

EC: TP

and then I'd find a spot for TP, hopefully after FSA considering the Dark Mirror / Mirror of Twilight and THEN we'd have one timeline woohoo.

My only broad issue is cross-continuity references. BotW and TotK reference all Zelda games, ALBW has the Majora's Mask and Koroks. This is why I prefer that they all share one continuity and one timeline, but this is how the multiverse works in most fiction and am glad to see that you're using it well and smart and good.
 
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Thanks for your reply! I really appreciate it. I'm a little confused about the nature of the Erased Continuity (not quite sure what that means), but it's an interesting point!

And it's good that you mention the cross-continuity references in TotK. I believe I mentioned that in my thread (sorry if it was confusing). The idea I had was that the Zonai used their powerful magic to see into the other continuities (like viewing other dimensions) and shared the stories of those worlds with the people of their own world (as well as create the "DLC" clothing sets and weapons).

As for Majora's Mask and Koroks being in ALBW, I believe they very well could be the Original Continuities version of them, rather than being one and the same (I.e., there is a Majora in the Classic Continuity and an alternate version in the Original Continuity).

The same goes for Ganon in FSA. This version of Ganon has no connection to the Triforce (if it even exists in the Four Swords Continuity), but still bears resemblance to the other versions of Ganon in the other Continuities. And as for the optional Four Swords Dungeon in the GBA A Link to the Past, it could be that the Four Sword was made in the Original Continuity as well, with a slightly different origin story. (or the dungeon could be non-canon. Either way.)

I'm sure there could be many things, like certain characters or items, that could have alternate versions in each continuity (kind of like, say, alternate versions of Spider-Man).

I do think your timeline is interesting though. Lots of good ideas. And that is the fun thing about the Zelda Timeline, it's so vague and ambiguous that people can almost come up with anything they want and it'll work.

Again, thanks for your reply! I'm glad you liked my post!
 
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What do you all think about it? Does this sound plausible to you? Let me know, I’m interested to test the validity of this theory. Thanks!
So it's like Tenchi Muyo or Fullmetal Alchemist?

There are stories which feature the same characters, similar storylines, but the actual plot and many of the relationships are totally different?

Just four different versions?

It's pretty Japanese in a way. Souls are immortal and details are less important than what souls do and feel. It's not bad.
 
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I'm a little confused about the nature of the Erased Continuity (not quite sure what that means), but it's an interesting point!
I think he is a big fan of there being a single timeline, and in the debate over single or multiple timelines one issue that comes up is how Link is sent back in time at the end of Ocarina of Time. So, some people don't quite believe there is evidence for multiple timelines, but the child Link ending is impossible to ignore. I think some people treat it as if it's an erased timeline rather than a separate timeline. I think that's what he means.
 
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I think he is a big fan of there being a single timeline, and in the debate over single or multiple timelines one issue that comes up is how Link is sent back in time at the end of Ocarina of Time. So, some people don't quite believe there is evidence for multiple timelines, but the child Link ending is impossible to ignore. I think some people treat it as if it's an erased timeline rather than a separate timeline. I think that's what he means.
I called it the Erased Timeline because Ocarina of Time is "erased" from it.

But also, yes, I think the child branch makes no sense.

Thanks for your reply! I really appreciate it. I'm a little confused about the nature of the Erased Continuity (not quite sure what that means), but it's an interesting point!
The way you have it set up now, there is no need for personal choices to create new universes.

Instead of Link traveling "back in time" and changing the universe, he instead travels to a "new timeline" (a new universe) and goes from there. That means the CC and the EC are two different continuities, one where OoT happens and one where it doesn't. I hope that makes more sense, I could understand why you'd disagree.

And then obviously keep the FSC if you don't think FSA is intended as a semi-prequel to ALttP.
 

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A lot of people may not like it, but it fixes all the contradictions (at least the ones I’m aware of)
the thing is you can fix a lot of contradictions by making up a lot of various different things that aren't stated or hinted at in the games or by nintendo
what you can't so easily do is point to ingame occurrences as evidence of these things happening
while I wouldn't say I'm dismissive of a multiple-continuity series, I think if that were the case nintendo would have mentioned it somewhere. The official timeline is functional enough and has some level of official capacity to it that I think it's unlikely for a more complex timeline than that to exist
nintendo is totally allowed to retcon whatever they want, but it's possible they don't know that's a thing that companies do :V
 
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So it's like Tenchi Muyo or Fullmetal Alchemist?

There are stories which feature the same characters, similar storylines, but the actual plot and many of the relationships are totally different?

Just four different versions?

It's pretty Japanese in a way. Souls are immortal and details are less important than what souls do and feel. It's not bad.
Yeah, that pretty much sums it all up.
 
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I called it the Erased Timeline because Ocarina of Time is "erased" from it.

But also, yes, I think the child branch makes no sense.


The way you have it set up now, there is no need for personal choices to create new universes.

Instead of Link traveling "back in time" and changing the universe, he instead travels to a "new timeline" (a new universe) and goes from there. That means the CC and the EC are two different continuities, one where OoT happens and one where it doesn't. I hope that makes more sense, I could understand why you'd disagree.

And then obviously keep the FSC if you don't think FSA is intended as a semi-prequel to ALttP.
Ah, I see. Interesting theory! I think I get what you're saying.
 
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the thing is you can fix a lot of contradictions by making up a lot of various different things that aren't stated or hinted at in the games or by nintendo
what you can't so easily do is point to ingame occurrences as evidence of these things happening
while I wouldn't say I'm dismissive of a multiple-continuity series, I think if that were the case nintendo would have mentioned it somewhere. The official timeline is functional enough and has some level of official capacity to it that I think it's unlikely for a more complex timeline than that to exist
nintendo is totally allowed to retcon whatever they want, but it's possible they don't know that's a thing that companies do :V
Yeah, I can see that. I stuck with the official timeline for the longest time as well. Although (correct me if I'm wrong) hasn't Nintendo jettisoned the timeline? I believe when Breath of the Wild was released they first told people BotW took place at the very end of the timeline, but I believe later they kind of declared that fans could decide whatever they wanted on the timeline.
 
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Remember Link left the Triforce of Courage into eight pieces for Windwaker, but then he STILL have the Triforce of Courage on the end of OoT to show to Zelda. Think of OoT Link trades the Triforce of Courage for another Triforce of Courage in the past, thus making Ganondorf and Zelda's family in the Child timeline to have their own Triforce. TP Ganondorf has the whole “Prank of the Gods". In Skyward Sword Link went to the past to fight Ghirahim, he "TRADED" the Master Sword for another new Master Sword just like the Triforce in with OoT Link. Fi was “doubled”, so the two Fi both the original. That way, you have the Master Sword existed both the present and the alternate past.

Timeline has only the starting point Skyward Sword, followed by Minish Cap.

Minish Cap caused a 2-way split: PRIME Split: Link makes it to Vaati before the third bell, stopping his ritual to steal Zelda's Light Force, then has his showdown with the wind mage. This outcome leads to the BRIGHT Timeline. ALTERNATE Split: Link fails to reach Vaati by the third bell, leading to Vaati absorbing Zelda's Light Force, and Zelda dies. This outcome leads to the DARK Timeline.

Expanding on each timeline split from Minish Cap:
BRIGHT Timeline
Vaati fails to steal Zelda's Light Force; Zelda survives; Link DESTROYS Vaati with the foursword - this IS the actual ending we DO see, when we beat Minish Cap. Recall that Vaati was NOT SEALED, he was destroyed. This becomes the timeline where Vaati no longer exists; Zelda was not killed; and Hyrule did not lose the Light Force for a few generations, thus it evolved more prosperously and had little adversity outside of the Fierce War, which was THIS timeline's conflict over the Sacred Realm and Triforce (note too that the knowledge of this realm and relic comes FAR SOONER than in the DARK Timeline). The King unified Hyrule and peace followed, up until this timeline's first game - Ocarina of Time. Ganondorf born in THIS timeline, has already seen the 'war' and even joined the King's truce. THIS Ganondorf's ambitions for power followed a path to the ultimate power, the Triforce, which he is very aware of and so his M.O. took him on a more political approach, earlier on. Of course we know the two fates THIS Ganondorf follows, one for each of the two timelines that split from OOT: CHILD, to Twilight Princess where he is KILLED (and there IS NO Four Swords Adventures thereafter); and ADULT, to Wind Waker where he is KILLED (and there ARE two incredibly stupid games to finish off the ADULT continuity, that I cannot even bring myself to even CALL 'Zelda games': Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks).

DARK Timeline
Vaati successfully absorbs Zelda's Light Force, vastly increasing his powers and killing Zelda; Link has a much harder fight but he IS the hero and prevails; Vaati is too powerful to be destroyed by the foursword, so Link is forced to SEAL him instead. THIS timeline is darker from the get-go, as Hyrule has lost their beloved princess and is robbed of the light force until Hylia's next reincarnation in a future Zelda. No pantheon of sages is established until centuries later, as the powers are passed through bloodlines and normally held by the young 'maidens' of those lines. There is no temple of time; rather there was the need to establish a sanctuary to house the foursword and it's prisoner. Vaati eventually breaks free, as we see in Four Swords, and the hero again defeats and reseals him. Then comes Four Swords Adventures (obviously the true Four Swords sequel) where we contend with Vaati one final time. But by now, Link's foursword is steroided-up on power; whilst the wind mage's stolen light force from centuries past, has waned enough such that Link is finally able to destroy Vaati. But on top of being the sequel to Four Swords and the final curtain for Vaati, it is also a PREQUEL to A Link to the Past; and most importantly: Four Swords Adventures, is THIS timeline's introduction to Ganondorf! THIS Ganondorf, much like the rest of THIS Hyrule save for the royal family, has NO KNOWLEDGE whatsoever of any Triforce or sacred realm (actually called the Golden Land in this timeline). As such, THIS Ganondorf's ambitions lead him to seek out the most powerful artifact that he WAS aware of: the Dark Trident. It is this trident that makes him GANON in THIS timeline; and ONLY in THIS timeline, does he EVER have the trident. At the end of Four Swords Adventures, Zelda and the six maidens seal Ganon within the foursword. And by the time Ganon escapes (if a far weaker Vaati can do it twice, c'mon!), the world is now aware of the Golden Land and it's sacred relic; and Ganon leads one of the many armies fighting in what was called the Imprisoning War. These armies eventually breached the golden land, and fought within that land to claim the Triforce; so the King ordered the seven sages of that time (which did NOT include Zelda and in fact, were originally called the Seven Wise Men) to seal the gate to the Golden Land, thus IMPRISONING the armies within - hence the name of that war. In A Link to the Past, Link learns more from the seven maidens he rescues - that Ganon was the victor who claimed the triforce, and wished to rule the world, which turned the golden land into the Dark World.

And there you have it. Timeline that makes perfect sense, with splits that make perfect sense. Solving the FSA problem by recognizing it is direct sequel for FS and the prequel to ALTTP. There aren't actually two Ganondorfs, it is the same man born into each of the two timelines. The one in OOT then experiences a timeline split leading to the two different ADULT/CHILD destinies. Chronologically, OOT is at par with FSA; which would mean that OOT's Link 'the hero of time', is THAT timeline's version of the FSA Link; and same with the Zeldas in fact.
 
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Remember Link left the Triforce of Courage into eight pieces for Windwaker, but then he STILL have the Triforce of Courage on the end of OoT to show to Zelda. Think of OoT Link trades the Triforce of Courage for another Triforce of Courage in the past, thus making Ganondorf and Zelda's family in the Child timeline to have their own Triforce. TP Ganondorf has the whole “Prank of the Gods". In Skyward Sword Link went to the past to fight Ghirahim, he "TRADED" the Master Sword for another new Master Sword just like the Triforce in with OoT Link. Fi was “doubled”, so the two Fi both the original. That way, you have the Master Sword existed both the present and the alternate past.

Timeline has only the starting point Skyward Sword, followed by Minish Cap.

Minish Cap caused a 2-way split: PRIME Split: Link makes it to Vaati before the third bell, stopping his ritual to steal Zelda's Light Force, then has his showdown with the wind mage. This outcome leads to the BRIGHT Timeline. ALTERNATE Split: Link fails to reach Vaati by the third bell, leading to Vaati absorbing Zelda's Light Force, and Zelda dies. This outcome leads to the DARK Timeline.

Expanding on each timeline split from Minish Cap:
BRIGHT Timeline
Vaati fails to steal Zelda's Light Force; Zelda survives; Link DESTROYS Vaati with the foursword - this IS the actual ending we DO see, when we beat Minish Cap. Recall that Vaati was NOT SEALED, he was destroyed. This becomes the timeline where Vaati no longer exists; Zelda was not killed; and Hyrule did not lose the Light Force for a few generations, thus it evolved more prosperously and had little adversity outside of the Fierce War, which was THIS timeline's conflict over the Sacred Realm and Triforce (note too that the knowledge of this realm and relic comes FAR SOONER than in the DARK Timeline). The King unified Hyrule and peace followed, up until this timeline's first game - Ocarina of Time. Ganondorf born in THIS timeline, has already seen the 'war' and even joined the King's truce. THIS Ganondorf's ambitions for power followed a path to the ultimate power, the Triforce, which he is very aware of and so his M.O. took him on a more political approach, earlier on. Of course we know the two fates THIS Ganondorf follows, one for each of the two timelines that split from OOT: CHILD, to Twilight Princess where he is KILLED (and there IS NO Four Swords Adventures thereafter); and ADULT, to Wind Waker where he is KILLED (and there ARE two incredibly stupid games to finish off the ADULT continuity, that I cannot even bring myself to even CALL 'Zelda games': Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks).

DARK Timeline
Vaati successfully absorbs Zelda's Light Force, vastly increasing his powers and killing Zelda; Link has a much harder fight but he IS the hero and prevails; Vaati is too powerful to be destroyed by the foursword, so Link is forced to SEAL him instead. THIS timeline is darker from the get-go, as Hyrule has lost their beloved princess and is robbed of the light force until Hylia's next reincarnation in a future Zelda. No pantheon of sages is established until centuries later, as the powers are passed through bloodlines and normally held by the young 'maidens' of those lines. There is no temple of time; rather there was the need to establish a sanctuary to house the foursword and it's prisoner. Vaati eventually breaks free, as we see in Four Swords, and the hero again defeats and reseals him. Then comes Four Swords Adventures (obviously the true Four Swords sequel) where we contend with Vaati one final time. But by now, Link's foursword is steroided-up on power; whilst the wind mage's stolen light force from centuries past, has waned enough such that Link is finally able to destroy Vaati. But on top of being the sequel to Four Swords and the final curtain for Vaati, it is also a PREQUEL to A Link to the Past; and most importantly: Four Swords Adventures, is THIS timeline's introduction to Ganondorf! THIS Ganondorf, much like the rest of THIS Hyrule save for the royal family, has NO KNOWLEDGE whatsoever of any Triforce or sacred realm (actually called the Golden Land in this timeline). As such, THIS Ganondorf's ambitions lead him to seek out the most powerful artifact that he WAS aware of: the Dark Trident. It is this trident that makes him GANON in THIS timeline; and ONLY in THIS timeline, does he EVER have the trident. At the end of Four Swords Adventures, Zelda and the six maidens seal Ganon within the foursword. And by the time Ganon escapes (if a far weaker Vaati can do it twice, c'mon!), the world is now aware of the Golden Land and it's sacred relic; and Ganon leads one of the many armies fighting in what was called the Imprisoning War. These armies eventually breached the golden land, and fought within that land to claim the Triforce; so the King ordered the seven sages of that time (which did NOT include Zelda and in fact, were originally called the Seven Wise Men) to seal the gate to the Golden Land, thus IMPRISONING the armies within - hence the name of that war. In A Link to the Past, Link learns more from the seven maidens he rescues - that Ganon was the victor who claimed the triforce, and wished to rule the world, which turned the golden land into the Dark World.

And there you have it. Timeline that makes perfect sense, with splits that make perfect sense. Solving the FSA problem by recognizing it is direct sequel for FS and the prequel to ALTTP. There aren't actually two Ganondorfs, it is the same man born into each of the two timelines. The one in OOT then experiences a timeline split leading to the two different ADULT/CHILD destinies. Chronologically, OOT is at par with FSA; which would mean that OOT's Link 'the hero of time', is THAT timeline's version of the FSA Link; and same with the Zeldas in fact.
Interesting! I think that theory definitely can work! Though I'm not quite sure how the Master Sword could get copied in that initial timeline split (unless another Goddess Sword was forged into a new Master Sword). Lots of food for thought!
 

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