Things That Are on Your Mind

[OGSniper]

I can't believe they effectively stole a fan film idea for a full movie, pfffffffft

Um, I will say that Aragon and Gandalf do hunt for Gollum in the books but it isn't really talked about a lot or highlighted, but I am pretty sure that them hunting Gollum does happen, just behind the scenes. I think it is even talked about briefly in the Fellowship movie at one point.

 

[Echolight]

Um, I will say that Aragon and Gandalf do hunt for Gollum in the books but it isn't really talked about a lot or highlighted, but I am pretty sure that them hunting Gollum does happen, just behind the scenes. I think it is even talked about briefly in the Fellowship movie at one point.

oh I knew that! I've read the books, heh.

I was just pointing out that this exact film adaption has been done in the past

 

[Daku Rinku]

oh I knew that! I've read the books, heh.

I was just pointing out that this exact film adaption has been done in the past

Andy Serkis to collect another paycheck lol.

 

[OGSniper]

oh I knew that! I've read the books, heh.

I was just pointing out that this exact film adaption has been done in the past

Okay, I now see what you were getting at. Sorry I ever doubted you. I wont let it happen again. Please, just spare the punishment you have in mind, I beg you.

 

[Echolight]

Okay, I now see what you were getting at. Sorry I ever doubted you. I wont let it happen again. Please, just spare the punishment you have in mind, I beg you.

hmm...I SUPPOSE
*puts sword away*

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

hmm...I SUPPOSE
*puts sword away*

Psssh!!

When my sword is drawn, blood must be shed!

 

[Daku Rinku]

They are really milking Middle Earth dry like Star Wars is being milked dry by Disney; its losing its allure. I do not need every off hand statement by characters turned into a movie or series:

“Kissel Run in Twelve Parsecs” -Solo Movie
“I Looked for Creature Gollum but the enemy found him first”. -Gollum Hunt Movie

…. Rolls eyes

 

[OGSniper]

hmm...I SUPPOSE
*puts sword away*

I thank ye, oh gracious one.

Psssh!!

When my sword is drawn, blood must be shed!

SSSSSHHHH!!!!!!

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

They are really milking Middle Earth dry like Star wars us by Disney.. its losing its allure. I do not need every off hand statement by characters turned into a movie or series…

“Kissel Run in Twelve Parsecs” -Solo Movie
“I Looked for Creature Gollum but the enemy found him first”. -Gollum Hunt Movie

….

As a Tolkien nut, it bothers me.

A lot of these executives want to milk already successful things, which for Tolkien's Legendarium, there's only so much interesting stuff you could write about, as it's a complete history from the beginning of the universe to its end.

It seems so few are willing to take a risk on writing something new or starting something new.

They forget, however, that even Tolkien's Legendarium was rejected from publishers too, as it was risky in the beginning.

Edit: What's truly baffling, is that they don't really understand Tolkien's Legendarium. You know what would make for a wonderful romance movie? The story of Beren and Luthien, which parallels Aragorn's and Arwen's relationship. You know how many female Tolkien fans you'd garner just from that story that Tolkien wrote as a side story? SO MANY.

 

[Daku Rinku]

As a Tolkien nut, it bothers me.

A lot of these executives want to milk already successful things, which for Tolkien's Legendarium, there's only so much interesting stuff you could write about, as it's a complete history from the beginning of the universe to its end.

It seems so few are willing to take a risk on writing something new or starting something new.

This is exactly how I feel.

Tolkien was writing a final apocalyptic part of his story that would see Morgoth unchained to come back to Arda and a final war. I’d finish that story and make it. But first they need The Silmarillion adapted to really lend weight to Morgoth’s return.

The problem is they want Gandalf (Olorin) and other known names in everything, and they could not be in a 4th to 5th Age of Middle Earth. So I doubt they will do that.. sigh..

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

This is exactly how I feel.

Tolkien was writing a final apocalyptic part of his story that would see Morgoth unchained to come back to Arda and a final war. I’d finish that story and make it. But first they need The Silmarillion adapted to really lend weight to Morgoth’s return.

The problem is they want Gandalf (Olorin) and other known names in everything, and they could not be in a 4th to 5th Age of Middle Earth. So I doubt they will do that.. sigh..

Or you know, you could do one of Tolkien's side stories, the story of Beren and Luthien, which is a wonderfully sweet romance, if tragic.

 

[Daku Rinku]

Or you know, you could do one of Tolkien's side stories, the story of Beren and Luthien, which is a wonderfully sweet romance, if tragic.

Yesss.. Beren and Luthien is my favorite tale in Sil. You could also just do The Children of Hurin instead of it in The Sil.

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

Yesss.. Beren and Luthien is my favorite tale in Sil. You could also just do The Children of Hurin instead of it in The Sil.

So what's really frustrating, is that, with so much to explore in Tolkien's Legendarium, it seems like they're only scratching the surface of it because people want to see the familiar named characters.

Yeah, we already have seen Gandalf, Aragorn, and all the other characters in the movies, good, cool, and us book nerds know intimately what happens to them, cool.

Why not explore some of the other interesting aspects of his Legendarium? Like Dagor Dagoroth, the Children of Hurin, or Beren and Luthien?

It's like they're afraid to bet on JRR Tolkien in fantasy, which is.... strange, considering he's the godfather of modern epic fantasy.

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

Speaking of reading books, I might actually do another Lovecraft audiobook.

Still going between Call of Cthulhu, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, or Dreams in the Witch-House.

 

[Daku Rinku]

So what's really frustrating, is that, with so much to explore in Tolkien's Legendarium, it seems like they're only scratching the surface of it because people want to see the familiar named characters.

Yeah, we already have seen Gandalf, Aragorn, and all the other characters in the movies, good, cool, and us book nerds know intimately what happens to them, cool.

Why not explore some of the other interesting aspects of his Legendarium? Like Dagor Dagoroth, the Children of Hurin, or Beren and Luthien?

It's like they're afraid to bet on JRR Tolkien in fantasy, which is.... strange, considering he's the godfather of modern epic fantasy.

Same problem with Star Wars.. they said in Rise of Skywalker taglines, “The End of the Skywalker Saga,” like we were moving beyond them. Then Luke appears in Mando S2 and Book of Boba, and Anakin is in Kenobi and Ahsoka. I love the characters, but there was a time when they were fresh! They were new and we arn’t getting that much anymore, just either the same faces or new characters that knew them.

Back to Middle Earth, Rings of Power really illustrates your point.