Um no, I have a guaranteed town win wincon. I am town aligned with a town victory wincon.
Game Thread MS Paint Mafia U-Pick Edition [Day 5]
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Another thing came to me, but I dont know if it would work. In the movie, they destroyed The Thing using fire, so if anyone has a fire killing abiltiy it may be worth a shot. But I cant confirm this.
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idk who this is, but hi
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i skimmed through OGS's earlier posts and thought of some things that i want to ask about.
@OGSniper i think what you said originally about your role was pretty different from what you're saying about it now. you said that both town and mafia would lose if you died? or were implying it offered different win conditions or something?
you keep adding more onto what you're claiming. just recently, you mentioned having a different wincon and said you will get to it soon if you're about to be voted. you said something like that the first day you claimed too. you mentioned that there was a person you would talk about if you thought you were going to die. i'm assuming this turned out to be rubik, but you hadn't even used the terminology "the thing" yet. what you said was very vague. you also only said this after KoD voted (and then unvoted)' for you.
you said the reason you claimed was because you were afraid you would be hammered over night, but you also didn't want to elaborate about your role because you wanted to wait until you thought you were going to die? that doesn't make sense to me. if you were hammered, you wouldn't be able to say anything after that. how do we know you weren't just trying to buy time so you could make up a better lie? in the morning you said this right away.
which seems a lot more specific than what you had said the night before.
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i don't understand how you keep finding so much new information about your role. it's not like this is the first day of the game. i know you've been saying you dont understand it and have been asking rag for clarifications and trying to figure it out, but if you were so unsure about how your role worked, why hadn't you already asked for these clarifications already? you thought it was important enough that both teams would lose if you died. the game had already been going on for 6 days at that point and you were posting a lot, so it's not like you didn't have time. you're saying you didn't understand your role, but only thought to figure it out once you used it as a reason for people to not vote you? because that's kind of the impression i've gotten from skimming over your posts.
or, you could just be making stuff up as you go. i'm not convinced you are yet, but it seems like a real possibility to me.
is there any harm to town if you are voted out, other than just the harm of possibly voting out a townie? like is it required for you to be alive for the thing to be defeated or something? do you have some ability that will make it way easier for town to deal with the thing? cause if you don't, i think it may be better at this point to vote you just to confirm whether you're telling the truth. like what kod said.
@OGSniper i think what you said originally about your role was pretty different from what you're saying about it now. you said that both town and mafia would lose if you died? or were implying it offered different win conditions or something?
you keep adding more onto what you're claiming. just recently, you mentioned having a different wincon and said you will get to it soon if you're about to be voted. you said something like that the first day you claimed too. you mentioned that there was a person you would talk about if you thought you were going to die. i'm assuming this turned out to be rubik, but you hadn't even used the terminology "the thing" yet. what you said was very vague. you also only said this after KoD voted (and then unvoted)' for you.
you said the reason you claimed was because you were afraid you would be hammered over night, but you also didn't want to elaborate about your role because you wanted to wait until you thought you were going to die? that doesn't make sense to me. if you were hammered, you wouldn't be able to say anything after that. how do we know you weren't just trying to buy time so you could make up a better lie? in the morning you said this right away.
which seems a lot more specific than what you had said the night before.
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i don't understand how you keep finding so much new information about your role. it's not like this is the first day of the game. i know you've been saying you dont understand it and have been asking rag for clarifications and trying to figure it out, but if you were so unsure about how your role worked, why hadn't you already asked for these clarifications already? you thought it was important enough that both teams would lose if you died. the game had already been going on for 6 days at that point and you were posting a lot, so it's not like you didn't have time. you're saying you didn't understand your role, but only thought to figure it out once you used it as a reason for people to not vote you? because that's kind of the impression i've gotten from skimming over your posts.
or, you could just be making stuff up as you go. i'm not convinced you are yet, but it seems like a real possibility to me.
is there any harm to town if you are voted out, other than just the harm of possibly voting out a townie? like is it required for you to be alive for the thing to be defeated or something? do you have some ability that will make it way easier for town to deal with the thing? cause if you don't, i think it may be better at this point to vote you just to confirm whether you're telling the truth. like what kod said.
Look, I would love to answer all of your questions but I have Track and Field awards and I am going to be leaving in 8 minutes. This isnt me trying to not answer your questions. I have already mentioned about the awards earlier today in this thread below if that gives me any credit to my name.
https://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/last-person-to-post-wins.68388/page-4015
https://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/last-person-to-post-wins.68388/page-4015
It is the last post on that page. I wont be back until after 8 PM.
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Seems to me like you're being dodgy more or less. Also, why post a link to an unrelated thread saying "look at the last post on the page given." whis is roughly the same thing said here?
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its np. i hope it goes well.
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cause he wanted to show he wasn't making it up? he had already mentioned it in that thread before i posted what he was replying to.
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Rag designed an Ocarina of Time game from memories from a decade earlier and without having even finished the game. I have no doubts Rag would do the same here.
The more you talk about your role the more it feels like a fake claim crafted to give yourself more importance than you actually have for town. It sets up a threat that doesn't otherwise exist in this game and creates an uncounter-claimable utility for town to keep you around. But the major problem I see is nobody else picked to be the thing, so even if you're searching for the thing there's no reason for it to be here overriding somebody else's choice. Additionally Rag talked about the roles being minimally impacting with design focusing on reading slots over mechanical clearing, and you're sitting here trying to paint yourself as the only way to catch the thing.
I, for one, am going to take my chances every time.
I given everything I know about the problem you are guys are going to be facing. I am ready and willing to die to show my innocence and to show you guys the gravity of the situation.
It doesnt bother me that you guys dont believe. I just wish for you guys to use the info I have provided.
(I will get to what you said @lain )
What I was trying to say was that there is a possibiltiy for Mafia to lose and for Town to lose, but not at the same time.
You do make a valid point and observation. I did what I did and I guess it made sense to me to do it that way. I will admit to doing it out of a partial way to frighten you guys to hold off on lynching me and it seemed to work for a bit. I am being honest. I know it doesnt help my situation but I am being honest. If I did die my role would be exposed and you guys would see for yourself.
I kept on asking Rag to clarify or give me more info on a certain subject. Since I had gone public with it and I was prolly going to die, I was and am trying to give town an edge. I really just wanted to keep things on the low down for as long as possible for that is what The Thing would be doing too.
As I have said before, I do have a Wincon. I am not ready to explain it now for if I am not lynched, but if I am lynched then you will see for yourself. My Wincon is another reason why I was trying to warn you guys without saying alot.
I didnt really read all of your questions, so please let me know if there is one that you would really like to be answered.
Since you are one of the few that are at least giving me a chance at my story, please scroll back and try to reread all of my posts and remeber most of the info I provided after I die. Also, pay attention to my wagon because for sure there has to be at least one mafia on it if not 2.
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if anyone has any questions about the way i approached designing the game i will answer or decline to answer those questions on a case by case basis
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I know.
And I did respond to you in short form rather than long form because why would I waste my time?
If you can't see the error in using the role cop as hard evidence as your example when comparing, despite your hypocritical view of hard evidence, then nothing more needs to be said as the point is flying high over your head. Suffice to say, your point is invalid.
Personally, I think the point you made was in bad taste and makes me think less of you being town as opposed to not town.