Game Thread Dungeons and Dragons Mafia

[Rubik]

lmao

rubik, I know you don't know me, but there's a 0% chance I vote my partner for that long yesterday
I didn't minimize risk for that slot, I created it.

You're literally scum. It's not even a question.

I've never been more certain in my life.

 

[The Sun Fan]

You're literally scum. It's not even a question.

I've never been more certain in my life.

I will trust people that know me to know that I am town here
you will continue to be useless if you're not going to get out of that tunnel

 

[The Sun Fan]

dog, you have this image of me hunched over the f5 key pressing it over and over saying to myself "I wonder how I can force a tie THIS eod"
its quite funny, I think

I was not aware that I created a tie. I did not move my vote because I was "called out." I moved it because I was trying to ensure that there wasn't a tie. The very thing you thought funnier was scum for.

 

[Mellow Ezlo]

Timeline of events during frantic final few minute tie-breaking for those who weren't paying attention:

The Sun Fan - 1 (Rubik)
Ryuken - 4 (Moe the Moblin, ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 2 (The Sun Fan, Funnygurl555)
Leetic - 3 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut, Doc)

---

Doc changes vote, no tie created. Pressure has been put on LG

The Sun Fan - 1 (Rubik)
Ryuken - 4 (Moe the Moblin, ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 3 (The Sun Fan, Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 2 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut)

---

Moe unvotes, tie created between Ryuken and LG.

The Sun Fan - 1 (Rubik)
Ryuken - 3 (Moe the Moblin, ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 3 (The Sun Fan, Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 2 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut)

---

Rubik unvotes, changing nothing.

Ryuken - 3 (ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 3 (The Sun Fan, Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 2 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut)

---

The Sun Fan switches votes to Leetic, changing the tie off of LG, now known to be scum, decreasing the chance she'll be the one hammered by Doc's strange end of day play.

Ryuken - 3 (ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 2 (Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 3 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut, The Sun Fan)

---

Rubik votes for Ryuken to break the tie, choosing the wagon that was the most stable before the last 20 minutes of the day.

Ryuken - 4 (ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan, Rubik)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 2 (Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 3 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut, The Sun Fan)

---

The Sun Fan votes Ryuken, ensuring we won't get a tie after being called out on the fact that everyone is creating ties for no reason.

Ryuken - 5 (ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan, Rubik, The Sun Fan)
ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken)
LittleGumball - 2 (Funnygurl555, Doc)
Leetic - 3 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut)

---

Doc made some last second plays that involved creating needless danger for LG. I'm feeling decently good about him being town for creating real actionable risk for LG.

Moe's play created a tie, but it did so in a way that put LG into danger for no reason if he's LG's teammate. I'm feeling okay about him being town (I would feel horrible about him if LG didn't flip scum during the night. His play wouldn't make sense as LG's scummate.

The Sun Fan eliminated risk for now confirmed scum with less than 20 minutes left in the day after it was created by Doc. He created a new tie with minutes to go. Funnier's D1 is terrible to me to. Near zero chance he's town. Sorry if I seem like I'm tunneling, but he's the most obvious choice.

Vote: The Sun Fan

If Moe's actions indicate town, then Sun Fan's shouldn't automatically indicate scum. He unvoted LG at a convenient time, yes, but he had been going after her consistently since subbing in. I don't really see the need to bus someone like that for an entire day phase, especially when only two townies had been killed so far.

I also wouldn't give Doc too much credit. He showed up out of nowhere, and amidst the chaos is the most convenient time for scum to do so because it's easier for them to not get noticed. I actually think Doc creating danger for LG when the reality was that she wasn't super likely to be lynched no matter the outcome (since most people were between leetic and Ryu), his vote is arguably the most suspicious to me.

I definitely see where you're coming from Rubik, but I don't think you're really looking at all angles here. That being said, I also don't think you'd be tunnelling him this far if you were scum.

 

[Doc]

If there's a doc

(This is a joke about the name, I am not claiming doctor)


Anyways, my initial thoughts are there is clearly scum in the Ryuken wagon and where I intend to look. So my suspicions today are going to be against ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan, Rubik, and The Sun Fan. I wish I could give deep thoughts at the moment but I am pressed for time.

The Sun Fan eliminated risk for now confirmed scum with less than 20 minutes left in the day after it was created by Doc. He created a new tie with minutes to go. Funnier's D1 is terrible to me to. Near zero chance he's town. Sorry if I seem like I'm tunneling, but he's the most obvious choice.

This was my thinking after LG's flip, and I don't know if I'm fully convinced that Sun wouldn't vote his scumbud early on. I need to take a closer look at Sun's posts leading up to his vote, but I've seen it in the past that scum are often the ones to point out scummy behavior in their scumbuds. Because they KNOW that that person is being scummy, it helps get town points.

 

[Doc]

I put LG in that group, that is obviously a mistake. That’s what I get for copying and pasting the vote count.

 

[The Sun Fan]

This was my thinking after LG's flip, and I don't know if I'm fully convinced that Sun wouldn't vote his scumbud early on. I need to take a closer look at Sun's posts leading up to his vote, but I've seen it in the past that scum are often the ones to point out scummy behavior in their scumbuds. Because they KNOW that that person is being scummy, it helps get town points.

fg and moe will say that this is not at all how I ever play, with no exceptions

busing is for dum-dums

 

[Rubik]

If Moe's actions indicate town, then Sun Fan's shouldn't automatically indicate scum. He unvoted LG at a convenient time, yes, but he had been going after her consistently since subbing in. I don't really see the need to bus someone like that for an entire day phase, especially when only two townies had been killed so far.

I also wouldn't give Doc too much credit. He showed up out of nowhere, and amidst the chaos is the most convenient time for scum to do so because it's easier for them to not get noticed. I actually think Doc creating danger for LG when the reality was that she wasn't super likely to be lynched no matter the outcome (since most people were between leetic and Ryu), his vote is arguably the most suspicious to me.

I definitely see where you're coming from Rubik, but I don't think you're really looking at all angles here. That being said, I also don't think you'd be tunnelling him this far if you were scum.

Idk what kind of weird reverse mental gymnastics you have to do to reach that conclusion. Granted, it's entirely possible Doc's last minute vote doesn't clear him as town, but it certainly doesn't look scummy to have created danger from a safe situation for scum.

To be honest, I had a bit of a hunch that TSF was busing LG yesterday to try to distance them from each other, but I wasn't confident in it. It doesn't matter that his vote was there for the beginning of the day when his vote was meaningless, it matter that when it ACTUALLY MATTERED he backed down on his vote in an attempt to diffuse her wagon. This is cut and dry. No need for WIFOM bull****, it's someone backing down from their bus when the stakes become real.

Moe's actions are town to me because he did something that would ABSOLUTELY have people going after him like crazy today if not for the fact that LG flipped scum during the night (something he couldn't have foreseen). He unvoted with a strange inexplicable confusion, but by doing so created the opportunity for LG to be lynched. I'd be hunting for his head right now if it weren't for our Vig/SK looking out for us last night.

 

[Rubik]

fg and moe will say that this is not at all how I ever play, with no exceptions

busing is for dum-dums

Don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[The Sun Fan]

doc, on a scale of 1-10, how confident are you that I was trying to force a tie, then voted elsewhere when I was "called out" on it

 

[The Sun Fan]

****, rubik*

 

[Doc]

I don’t at all think you were trying to force a tie. I legitimately believe that you unintentionally created a second tie, but that’s not the part I’m suspicious of. The part I’m suspicious of is changing wagons once LG’s had traction.

 

[Ghost of Mikeys Past]

Doc answers it anyway what a champ

 

[The Sun Fan]

Doc answers it anyway what a champ

this was my fault

 

[Doc]

Oh, I thought you legitimately were telling Rubik to **** off