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I'm not familiar with Xenforo, but a lot of sites have better ISOs than this one (and some are same/worse, so ZD is not like worst in its class or anything). A few particular features that I appreciate on other sites that ZD does not have are: No ISO buttons in the thread. You have to go to a...

I think Seanzie coming back and placing a vote has more to do with it being close to 9 and Seanzie thinking Ex is town, and Killjoy being south of null.

Good, it's my birthday and I got offered a job today.

If Killjoy goes over, I'mma hide behind Kreaal.

Vote:Killjoy I don't think I've ever played with Kreeal, so I'm definitely weirded out by them trying to talk about my meta. @Kreaal what familiarity do you have with me? I don't agree with your meta assessments of me, and am confused how you arrived at the conclusions you have.

So I don't know if I'll have time before EoD to do anything, and given the gamestate I am likely to die, so a little legacy: Minish, Numbers, Killjoy all deserve suspicion. Ex, Rag, Fext, DW all probably town. Least sure on Fext in that group. Kraal likely town, but should actually explain...

An info flip taken in a vacuum is not opportunistic, no. But, pushing to flip one of the most active players that has other people voting him without reason in a game with very few active players with your only reason being "info" is opportunistic. At least now you're "disagreeing with my...

Actually, I've been thinking more about this. Minish, I'd like to hear exactly what info you'd gleam from my flip? In particular, could you tell me 1. What reads would you make on people if I flipped town? and 2. What reads would you make on people if I flipped scum?

Care to explain? What exactly is wolfy about my posting?

From what I can tell, you still haven't given even a single reason why you think I'm a wolf. You've said it a lot, but I don't think I've seen an explanation yet. Considering I've asked for one directly, what gives?

Killjoy has done exactly nothing. I feel like while I don't expect too much from this slot, the lack of anything is kind of concerning.

What you call "reaching" I call generating more readable content than almost any other person in the entire game thus far. Also, I am a strong town player, and it is ill-advised to elim me, especially with anti-town elements like KoD at play, and 3+ inactive or nearly inactive slots in play...

Gonna go out on a limb and say Ex is probably town here.

Who I am going to hide behind is kind of a big decision. I am taking the time I have available today to deliberate. In particular, a lot tends to be revealed in the lead-up to EoD, so I probably won't say who I am hiding behind until very close to the deadline.

Do you have any non-RVS thoughts?

Did you ever give a reason for your read on me?

Your point?

Can you please provide a link to a game where this happened, and then also one to the specific game where the person was town?

Did you ever do this? If so, thoughts?

Care to elaborate on your laughter?

Unvote: Fext Vote: 15377

No, I didn't. I pointed out that proposing the plan was NAI to refute DW's claim that numbers was towny for proposing the plan. This part did not factor into my scumlean, it just didn't count against it either. My argument was essentially: 1. I don't agree with people's townlean, I think that...

I think you need to reread what happened around that and stop listening to KoD. No one ever said number's suggestion was bad or argued against it. I think the plan itself is good, but someone proposing a good plan is NAI. The only reason I've heard someone give to suggest numbers is town is...

Can you elaborate on Dawning?

I agree that not cc-ing right away is probably best. However, perhaps more important is to emphasize that while everyone should claim a hider target every day, VTs should NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT under any circumstances fakeclaim hider if they are on the chopping block. In particular, if someone...

What are your thoughts on Fext? Also care to elaborate on exactly what you don't like about me. I'm a pretty likable guy if you get to know me.

Who is a priority elim right now from your POV?

Day 1 is 72 hours. All others are 48. Also Vote:Fext

Personally, I'm having a lot of fun watching you be unable to generate actual content.

What have I done that is scummy? Please explain. So far you've given 0 thoughts as far as I am concerned.

I really wanted to see if Fext was able to analyze anything, but they aren't going to, so I'll talk about Minish now. Their one post reads more like receipts than thoughts. They mention all the things going on (and give an excuse why they didn't mention more), and say a few things here and...

I'd personally call it "reaction testing" as my actions are purposeful and deliberate, so there is little "trolling" going on, but you can call it what you want. But yes, if I think I know where scum is, I try to let them react in ways that will prove me wrong... or better yet right. I feel...

Why?

Sure, it is not a super strong push, but strong considering how early it is. What is your read on me?

I was trying to prod Fext into giving content. Thus far they have given 0 actual thoughts on the game, and have only complained about how they don't have time to read walls (Minish's one post is not a wall, Fext should have time to read it and give a thought, if they so choose to take that...

Why not Minish?

It is so early I recoil at the thought of calling it a true guess, but yes. The three names that concern me most right now, posted to see how people react to the names and to potential seal in undeserved bragging rights if I got it correct this early.

17335, Fext, Minish.

Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure what to think of KoD's defense of 17533, kinda felt it was chainsaw-y, but this could also explain it, which is good to know.

Wait, is this actually true? This is valuable context.

Well, clearly you're doing a better job of pocketing me. On a more serious note, you've given enough content that I don't feel like I need to push you atp to form a read on you. Giving as much content as you have without me being majorly pinged bodes well for your alignment.

Knowing that you're not a newbie completely negates my >>>>rand!town read on you. Knowing that you've been playing since before mafia grew in intensity and popularity to the point that people study the game puts into context your confidence in what I'd consider bad tactics, and lack thereof in...

I am no longer going to engage with you because this is a prime example of a discussion that is not good. I don't think you're listening to me, and I don't want to argue for arguments sake.

Nah, I am fine with the hider plan, even though I do agree with Ex's criticism that marking in purple is not the best way to actually mark the mark, but I think it is a bit moot since if the hider dies, we're guaranteed to dig through their posts to figure out who they cleared, and it won't be...

What do you think the reason for my vibes is?

You are correct that you can talk about whatever you want (within the scope of the rules), but usually it is anti-town to not work with others in the thread. I am not demanding, but asking because I believe it will increase town's chances of winning if I can form good reads on people.

While I appreciate your level of engagement with the thread, if possible can you avoid answering questions I ask to others until they've responded? I want to know what 15377's thoughts on me are to help me read them, and it is harder to judge their answers if they say things like "I agree with...

Do you think it is opportunistic of me to push you over one post?

What do you think of my accusation that you're a wolf?

hmm...