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Sorry town. I was lurking in the towards the end of the last Day and I saw that I was getting lynched and didn't have any energy to even care... I probably should've subbed out when my health started kicking my ass. I believe on some sites you can click an ISO button and all of the person's...

I don't think Eli/Ex make sense as scum together? I mean, they've damn near partook in killing each other. I'm pretty sure Ex started the Eli wagon, and Eli was if I remember right a relatively early Ex vote. Both of them could've easily died in the first two days which if they're on the same...

Have you? I'm not really finding anything until pretty recently in the day suggesting you think Fext might be scum. You did disagree with the doubling up hider targets plan but you didn't seem to push the idea that he was scummy based on this disagreement.

I'd be tentatively okay with that. I might need some convincing but I went back to her Fext vote and its not sitting quite right with me.

Oh huh I guess Fext is an option too? I still think Fext is town though so I'd still definitely rather have an Eli lynch of the three wagons with multiple votes.

Fairly sure it is the PoE at the moment, but if we pretend for it isn't... I might still vote for Eli? I don't have an strong scumreads at the moment so (which I suppose is an issue in itself) I guess a person I'm not feeling remotely strongly town on? I guess this category could also include...

*would appreciate him explaining this for himself

Okay so I have not seen Ex do that. Self-destructing is still something I generally associate with much more with town Ex than scum Ex; even knowing he definitely has the capacity to self-destruct in an absurd manner as scum (how is using the factional kill on your own teammate even allowed?)...

Sorry I haven't been keeping up. Gonna be scummy and do the excuse thing to explain why: I've had panic attacks at stupid o'clock at night the past few nights, and the combination of this further messing up my already awful sleep schedule and the panic attacks themselves has been really bad for...

Post in thread 'Fall 2020 Mafia - Game Thread' https://forums.thousandroads.net/index.php?threads/fall-2020-mafia-game-thread.468/post-11493 I might've been misremembering the details on this because it was like two years ago but Tanuki (scum) tried to sell that I'm super skilled and experienced...

...I feel like I mentioned before that I was scumleaning you a bit when you first exaggerated my skill level in your description of my meta, and while I didn't outright mention that I found it scummy when you used meta to call me scum. I feel like it was implied? So its sitting on you because...

My ExLight vote met this requirement and still wasn't counted? For me, probably my main reason is 90% of the time when someone decides to push me as scum based on nonexistent meta that says I'm good at this game because I'm not playing like the person in this meta that doesn't exist, the person...

Honestly I have know idea what happened to that sentence. But yes there was probably supposed to be more to it, infer what I was probably talking about from every other post I've made about my 180 on Isett.

Eh, maybe not. Maybe. It was early Day One so I had to go on what I had. But I do feel he's town overall regardless of whether this is true.

I guess I read it as like, it should be reassuring to other people? There's not a lot to that post to interpret based on so if for whatever reason someone like myself decided to try to do so there are probably quite a few different ways it could be read.

Because he called it a good sign? I might've been overthinking but nobody corrected me so I've been going with I'm right on this. It's not remotely a main basis for my townread on him at this point anyway so I don't really hugely care if him being late is usually alignment indicative or not.

I wasn't trying to say you weren't busy, or change the focus of the thread or anything. But you were posting on and off, so I figured you had a little bit of time to give some rough thoughts or something. I never said I changed my mind and thought we shouldn't hypoclaim, I still think its a...

Yeah I pretty consistently out myself within 2-3 days if I'm antitown y'all have basically nothing to worry about from a scum me because I'm **** at staying hidden for extended periods of time. You're still pissed about that? This feels like an unrealistically high praise of my play so 1. be...

No? I was just asking why you'd switched from thinking Seanzie was the more scummy of us to thinking I was more scummy? Because I was curious what one or both of us had said to change your mind.

...A constructive debate, which is the most useful type of debate for the town, requires both parties to actually listen to the other's points when responding to them. Yes, you are entitled to disagree, but you could at least do the courtesy of considering what your disagreeing with first please.

...I've agreed with you and you haven't pressured me, what am I doing that warrants you not doing so? Well, I asked for tjis I guess, but care to explain what makes you feel I've once again become the scummier between me and Seanzie? Did Seanzie say somethinv that makes you feel he's less...

Sure, but you think there's a strong chance one of us is scum right and you think we're both pretty scummy-looking, right? Hound us both to pressure us for more different thoughts/interactions for each of us with and a better sense of which one of us is more likely scum.

Hound us both instead going after me passively like that. Anyhow I'm not feeling going after Isett now that their posting more. I said this of KoD but I continue to see the non-**** giving attitude towards pressure as something that generally comes from a town mindset, and I kinda sorta see how...

...I feel like I said multiple times, "I am not actually scumreading this person anymore but I am going to keep my vote there until he does something" and he did something. So. I am still not scumreading KoD so now that he's doing stuff there's no reason for me to vote him. While I overall...

...How bout we don't lie about this kinda crap? I can't see that as scummy because self-meta's often a thing wolves do to look like their contributing since its not like people can't find it anyway, so offering it honestly and easily would've be more wolfish. But please don't do this? Whether...

Thrse walls of constantly shifting colour are really not fun for my brain to process. I'm just quoting this so I can see what it says. Can I ask you to explain this one as well? Kreal's one of my more concrete town reads at the moment I feel. When there is basically nothing, there's still a...

Congratulations on doing something! Unvote: KingofDominaria I do not expect to solve the entire game Day 1. But I expect people to try their damnedest to based on what there is available anyway, which will give more material to read based on going into the next days. And yes. I did do a 180...

Reads again. Seanzie is a town lean. I like his post about his read on Isett, it seems solid and well thought out enough for me to sheep. KoD is also a town lean for not caring about the pressure vote I made on him to start doing things. He's still not doing things though which is annoying so...

This. Actually makes a lot of sense... I wasn't wolf leaning them in the slightest, but that does kinda line up with what I've seen from wolves in the past. The point about missing the point of the strategy in particular strikes me as a pretty decent wolf point against them. No it objectively...

I don't think we went into detail, but Mikey stated any setup with a cop needs a rolecop to prevent "mathmatical autowin by hypocopping" to explain Mafia's two PRs to I think Fext Which makes sense, unless the hider dies super early having their results by the time they do die will clear...

I never said it was locked, I said I'd move it if I saw something better to push. And not even some slight feeling one way or another? On anyone at all? I don't care if its weak af I just want something. Like, "this person gives off slight vibes that they're trying to get stuff done in a towny...

...Okay, but. Do you have some semblance of read on anyone or sonething then? I think not giving a crap about my vote on you strikes me as not scummy but I'm gonna leave it there till I see something better or you start contributing to progressing the discussion in some manner.

Right, that's kind why I question Seanzie's scumread. It definitely seems like Isett brought up for discussion a reasonable scumhunting method, and asked everyone else to weigh in on how they think it'd work in this game, and people's weighing in on this could definitely serve as somewhat of a...

...Care to elaborate on why you think this?

...Also on the note of readability problems, when people use the coloured text option, could you please select the eraser button in the colour picker that removes the colour, not whatever the default colour on your theme is?

I know this is a stupid nictpicky thing, but can I specifically request people use a light purple option in the colour picker if its gonna be purple? You can hardly read that dark purple on the Shades of Blue theme, and I'd really rather not have to highlight the names every time people do that...

I think in this game, the best way to handle it would be announcing who you would target the following night, rather than the previous night ("If I'm the hider, I will target [person] tonight"), that way, if/when the hider dies, its clear whether its a more likely result of their target being...

Reads on everyone who's posted so far. Everything here is a pretty vague feeling and very subject to change since there's obviously not a ton to go on yet, but I feel like there's something so have the something I've got: Kreaal's giving me the most town vibes of the people who have posted. His...

That would be me, very town aligned roleblocker here, which there totally definitely absolutely 100% is in this setup I swear you don't have to check I'm not a Mafia-aligned Roleblocker I promise!!!

It's plural. And sorry for not wanting to get my eyeballs pecked out.

Yep, that's totally what he meant by that. Hey, watch it! You almost hit me with that!