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Should have dumped him, obviously. Then you would have won. I know a certain open cult leader.

I actually kept forgetting that I wasn't town periodically through the game. When I'd message Zenox I'd be like "crap forgot I'm not even town". That's a good way to get a fake town meta lol

What sucks is I don't think I'm ever going to live past day one ever again. Doctor better grab me in werewolf mafia!

I recruited Raj so I already knew this :rolleyes:

I actually am not allowed to talk to my cultists. I don't even get their night role results. The only reason I had the balls to fakeclaim and pass Austin off as mafia is because I knew there were only two mafia left, and I was absolutely sure that Austin was one of them.

If Luke wouldn't have roleblocked you last night I would have won the game. Your roleblock would have been successful then and I would have trampled through all of you with my superior fakeclaim abilities.

I used my night role on you last night. You were targeted by PK Flash, the mafia roleblocker. You were also targeted by Pendio and Rachel. One of those two is the Cult Leader.

I'm not even the cult leader bro

Xinnamin is the last remaining Mafia member. She claimed. Lynch her.

Implying there are any smart townies that haven't already voted. EVERYONE VOTE XINDI SHE'S THE LAST MAFIA Unvote Vote: Xinnamin

You're right, I messed up. I actually considered unvoting you in an ebwodp earlier on when I first voted for you, but I never did do it. And I know that doesn't mean crap coming out right now, but I've lost this match. Maybe I could have stayed up if I did unvote you back there and played ALIT...

My story is not a lie. My claim is real and I lynched Austin because I found out that he targeted Josh. That's why I went to being so confident in voting for Austin during the last day period after not wanting to lynch him the day before. I suppose there's nothing else I can do to argue, but...

And how would I have used any information I would have gotten to my advantage? Austin and Thareous were the only scum I lynched, and Thareous was on day one. Since Austin was godfather, Viral wouldn't have even been able to tell he was mafia. Your argument is flawed.

I agree that I should rethink my priorities with the Mafia issue. However, I'm not even lynching ALIT based on the suspicion that he's Mafia anymore. Since we have absolutely no leads otherwise, I've decided he could be the Cult Leader trying to pass it off on someone else. After just one of us...

I don't understand Zenox's ******** rules, but the town still won't be able to win if there are people remaining who aren't of the town alignment. The game didn't only have two scum. The Mafia have conditions in which they lose, as well. Often it follows that when the godfather of the mafia is...

Nice try, but your story still doesn't add up. The Cult leader is never immune to nightkills, so your argument that I wasn't already dead not adding up still doesn't make any sense as incriminating evidence. Not only that, but the cult has absolutely nothing to do with corprus as a whole, so the...

Vote: Xinnamin Let me guess, you're one of the remaining Mafia? Nah, nothing. Not much we could really pinpoint at this point since there are no killing roles left. It would be hard to tell whether the person who targeted anyway is a town role, the remaining mafia roleblocker, or the cult...

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Because if you leave the mafia you're going to put the town in a much worse position than if you leave the mafia. I've already described this. As a townie, you should be able to have priorities despite being out to lynch all the scum. Also, "shouting YOLO" and voting isn't going to get you...

Read this part as well. We established perviously that Dagoth Ur and his Ash Vampires/Ghouls are the mafia. The fact that one of his own split off from the group to confront Josh conflicts with the theory it would be related to the cult. Technically Corprus is treated as a disease in...

I analyzed this night scene earlier. First off, Corprus has nothing to do with the dreamers except for the fact that dreamers are associated with Dagoth Ur (which makes it seem weird that they're the cult). Corprus is "the divine disease" as considered by the followers of Dagoth Ur. Thus, it...

Using this evidence, which is my standard meta no matter what role I am, as evidence against me would be unsound reasoning.

The meta--the style with which one plays and considers his or her actions. Let me go back to some previous mafia games. Your standard meta is one that would use circular reasoning in order to convict your foes -- or try to use a more subtle route than directly aggravating your targets in order...

Simple enough.

You're now beginning to take posts out of context and ignore the reasoning behind statements. You're attempting to create trace bits of information that inactive/weak players will see in order to sway their opinions completely out of context. You're also using bold text to attempt to seem...

Read above. You have not disproved my arguments with your own. Plus, if you were to say that our arguments are mutually disproved, then you would retract your own vote.

Mine is of a totally different scenario. You vote based on the cult recruitment of someone, I vote based on the nightkill of someone and the thoughts behind their role being previously known. Yours is very straightforward and could be employed--even completely randomly--by someone. Mine makes...

But fluff is precisely what it is. The only part of your argument that had any substance whatsoever was where you said Viral was recruited as part of the cult. It doesn't take a genius to know that Viral is an experienced player of Mafia. In fact, you could even be the cult leader trying to pass...

Stating it's not airtight only reveals the massive holes in it. An experienced mafia player knows about the cult, and I know about the cult. Not only have I played on other forums in games with a cult, but I've researched on the wiki extensively about various forms of mafia games. The cold hard...

You attempted to call me out on something we've already discussed: What if, just maybe, he didn't vote with you because he saw the evidence and thought it was too flimsy? We already discussed the WIFOM behind this and established why I think as I do. The fact that you're only coming back and...

A Link In Time, I have similar suspicions toward Xinn. However, I want to point out an inconsistency in your reasoning with Pendio. You said Rachel and PK Flash have just as much suspicion cast on them for voting for Raindrop, but that they were just bandwagoning. Pendio is clearly bandwagoning...

Told youuuuu Yeah, I can't convince you with incontrovertible evidence on this. Except on the cult part. I wouldn't know who the mafia are as cult and there would be no way I'd know if I was lynching scum or not, so that point is moot. As for the mafia situation, wifom, but I've already...

Or you could just look at the reasoning behind my vote for Austin and lynch the scum with me. Plus Pendio is inexperienced, but I grasped from his post the same basic point that I was going off of, only a little twisted. If I were going to start a bandwagon on one of my own as mafia on day 1...

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Allow me to rephrase what I said and add something, then: If you think the cult is more dangerous than the mafia, then consider what I previously said... if we leave the Mafia and wipe out the cult, we have town against the mafia where the mafia have a nightkilling role. They can pick people...

Wrong, a cult would have no opposition to helping the town by eliminating the mafia. They only need to recruit half of the players to win, so it doesn't make a difference whether or not they're killing Mafia or town. Either would help them, and it's arguably better to go after the mafia since...

It's possible. But if we start going after the cult it opens a huge opportunity for the mafia either way. No matter which we eliminate first it's going to come down to a battle between the town and another faction. If we leave the mafia, they'll have a nightkiller. If we leave the cult, they'll...

??? What makes you say that?

I was going to say something about this, but thinking about it again you're right lol. If the cult begins to take over it'll be cult vs. mafia, though. Mafiascum wiki says that the wincon for the cult is when 50% of the current players are cultists, which makes sense since they'd control the...

ebwodp By the way, more support to the cult idea: "As the survivors examined the body, it would seem as though Viral Maze had been inflicted with some sort of disease that turned him into a madman." ebwodp get out zenox

Looked up Dreamer, it seems they're servants of Dagoth Ur. That's weird, considering Dagoth Ur is very obviously the godfather. Yet it seems the Dreamers are third party. Morrowind:Zula - UESPWiki Zula is the only named Dreamer in Morrowind. Probably the Cult Leader. As for the spymaster...

Grey actually, and cults are third parties that are able to recruit other players in the game and cause them to become cultists. Raj's character would make no sense as a cultist unless he were recruited, either. He was Grand Spymaster of the Blades. ebwodp actually never mind, he was gray...

Wine in front of me. WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. WIFOM - MafiaWiki As for the talk on the cop, I don't think the first guy was the cop. I think...

Can't say I didn't see this coming from a mile away either. Typical experienced mafia player move when you've got a bit of intelligence. Kill someone who's after you then brush it off as someone trying to accuse you. WIFOM

I just had a little revelation from the previous night scene. It seems thus far that we only have two killing roles in the game, now with evidence from two different night scenes. One was Josh and the other seems to be the Mafia. Josh was roleblocked during Night 1, and we can tell from him...

Assuming Zenox's tally on page 11 was right, it's Raindrop-5 and Austin-4 right now. Just recounted it.

man I don't know what's going on

Raindrop-5 Austin-4 seems to be it

Then vote for Austin. We'll tie it up, you've only got 4 on ya now. Austin has two, Vote: Austin now three This might be a little risky because I don't want to lynch Austin but I want to tie it up lol

At the moment I don't think Raindrop is totally detrimental to our efforts. I believe her reasoning is crooked with her vote and she is very inexperienced. I don't believe that it's causing a problem for us at this point other than distracting us from all of the other going-ons of the town. I...