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Town only won because Wyatt and I essentially destroyed each other, lol

Best Mafia game.

Can we frame this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cze1_cWdF5s

Vote: Wyatt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

I blame Zenox for using terminology like "infected" then.

Alright, we're heading into confusing territory here. I'll take full blame for this, although it's partially the inactivity that made three of my posts into one. First, I was encouraging people not to just vote with Wyatt because he's Wyatt. This is just bad reasoning to begin with, and I...

It's not so much that you persuaded him to vote with you as it is the manner in which you did it. It all goes back to one of my main points, your use of aggression to garner votes and gain momentum.

That was slightly immature and I apologize for that. Things were getting a bit heated. This is exactly my point. No, you've encourage ALIT to vote for the scum, or something, outright. I assume this was an encouragement to vote for me. I'll pull myself away long enough from this...

wot I've never tried to disprove your arguments. Not once. I've actually stated before that I won't try, and that I understand where you're coming from. The only reason I do not agree with them is because I know for a fact that I'm innocent. As such, I'm not disproving my own either.

You're referred to my meta several times during this game. I've actually called you out in the past on this asking what my meta was but you've thus far ignored these questions. I'm requesting that you do so now, and explain how my current meta contradicts it.

"It's fluff because I said it's fluff". I think you're confusing substance with "that which cannot be absolutely disproved". You have been trying to persuade, quite strongly, ALIT to vote with you multiple times. I'm not saying he's a weak player (the fact that he held to his vote proves...

I have stated already that I agreed with you. It's still suspect though. Also, I still fail to see anything you've used against my arguments that cannot similarly be used to disprove your own. You've, quite simply, put your own claims on an ideological pedestal and refuse to see them through any...

This only further illustrates the point I made before. Kybyrian is attempting to simply manipulate any weak players out there and get them to support him. I don't think that will quite work out for him though. I encourage everyone to read and read over what I have said. I assure you that the...

Wrong. I wasn't debating your evidence at all. I was suggesting ALIT did not agree with you, which he clearly, at least in part, does not. Calling it "fluff" does not make it so. If anything is fluff, it's this defense. Using words like "desparate" and "fluff" may make your argument sound more...

I'm becoming quite wary of Wyatt. He specifically avoided me calling him out only two posts above him as if he were trying to hide the fact. Wyatt is a strong Mafia player, there isn't any doubt about that. However, he is also a very aggressive player and isn't afraid to throw intellectual...

What if, just maybe, he didn't vote with you because he saw the evidence and thought it was too flimsy? !!!! Also this might just be me but I could have sworn we had more than five people playing this game...

Alright, fair point. With that, I'm going to Vote: Pendio. His reasoning for voting both times has been pretty faulty, and what's more is that he does not explain his votes after being specifically called out to. Smells bad to me, and it's all I've really got to work off of.

I was against voting for Raindrop, pretty vocally. I only did it at the end because Wyatt was attempt to create a tie, but I didn't feel comfortable being that close to a lynch. If you're suspicious of people who voted for Raindrop, there are far better starting places. wooo i cant read but now...

I was speaking in terms of my own research but that's cool. Like I said earlier, I can't really think of anything to dissuade you. I do still think the Cult is more dangerous than the Mafia though. David's ******* mod Mafia game really traumatized me.

I thought we just established he was a cult leader. You think he might be both? wait im ******** im so sorry I somehow processed this without the "if" and thought that Wyatt was suggesting Viral was the cult leader, but now it makes sense. So, I think the cult leader should be our top...

So wait Viral wasn't the cop at all then.

If Zenox included a cult in this game I quit. Just saying.

Viral was yellow though, why would the cop be third party?

Define WIFOM please. And yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but this does put me in a really :cucco:ty position. All I can really say is that you're giving the Mafia a free kill. They're already got (what I assume is) the cop and the vig, if they get me and then someone else tonight, town...

Knew someone was going to do that. It seems clear to me the Mafia wanted two kills that night. They kill Josh, and then the obvious suspicion falls to me. They let you guys take care of the rest. Wyatt's vote right off the bat only proves this.

are you even trying frosted mini wheats carl

Unvote if these even counts idk

Someone can't count, that's all I know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqIki33mTgs

if viral is right though see what would have happened if i didn't vote for rainy

The game ends AT 10 PM MST. Not after, does that still count?

your terrible

beep what are you even doing out of pure curiosity this day should be over anyway do any of these votes even count :cucco: it i'm editing my post :cucco: the police Zenox you are the worst game mod ever.

okay either wyatt can't count or xindi can't

Assuming Wyatt was right, if we add up the votes since it's Raindrop14 - 6 Austin - 4

btw, I think it's 10PM MST. The day should be over now.

I think it creates a no-lynch situation, that's what Wyatt was aiming for. I get it, I'm just really not willing to create such a fragile situation for myself. I know I'm town, I think she's town, butttt I wanna keep playing =(

Yeah, sorry, but I can't let that happen. I know I spoke out against lynching Raindrop but my own self-preservation takes place over hers. Anyone who says the opposite in my situation isn't thinking. Vote: Raindrop14 EBWODP I can't read, I thought you were encouraging a lynch on me. Either...

I actually could have sworn the day was supposed to end today.

I believe I'm going to unvote as well. I'm still suspicious of Josh. He did not explain himself adequately when I asked, in my opinion. He also ignored Wyatt's request for explanation as well. However, I don't have any solid evidence yet, and my original vote was more of a gut reaction than...

I'll reiterate myself, I wasn't against lynching Raindrop so much as I was against speedlynching Raindrop.

Well, be fair. You can see why I would have an issue with this.

What exactly do you mean by "a situation like this"? Then what does it stem from exactly? It's almost all of my defense because that's the biggest evidence I'm seeing mounted against me. No one is saying I'm guilty or that they even have strong evidence against me. They're just saying...

We at least agree on this. Josh's statements only really serve to confuse me. He claims that he's incredibly active when he's Mafia and the opposite when he's town. I generally agree with this statement, however, currently he's hovering somewhere in the middle. This is what makes me nervous...

See, this all makes sense on Day 1. I didn't speak out against lynching Thareous, nor do I think it was a bad move because A) it was Day 1 and we had nothing to work on and B) we got lucky, he did turn out to be scum. So yeah, speedlynching is helpful sometimes, but as I said, at a certain point...

You seem quite aggressive here but... Backpedal much? I dunno. I know I'm not scum, obviously and you're shifting back and forth. This whole thing just smells bad. I'll be honest too, I'm not 100% certain you're scum either, you might just be a very confused townie. All I did was suggest...

Be nice if we could wait for Josh to respond to me before we hammer. Again, I really hate how quick Mafia games are to lynch these games. I again point to Mafia D, where the town got really excited over a Mafia kill and then went in for next, sure they couldn't be wrong. They ended up causing...

I don't get it, all I did was say we shouldn't try to hammer Raindrop. If we all were suspicious of my supposed activity why would we wait until I posted? Again this entire game seems to be finger pointing. We got lucky with Thareous, but as Mafia D shows a lucky streak doesn't necessarily pan...