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I figured it was an attempt to draw attention away from yourself, it's just a gambit that could have gone really really bad had things played out slightly differently.

Your d2 play was pretty wolfy. Why did you just sort of nope out of that wagon like that with like 20 minutes to go?

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Vote: Tristan I have a bad feeling about him...

Works for me, probably. I'll probably vote Tristan when I get home.

Oh, Doc admitted to being SK. I guess he's decently likely to be SK then with some miniscule chance of it being a weird scum hail mary attempt.

You're probably weren't my top scumspect, but I wanted to get your alignment down 100% so that I've got a few heads I can bounce off of without having to be paranoid. I'm not willing to fully trust that Doc is SK unless he doesn't deny it. No reason to trust scum's claim.

Also, I feel vindicated.

Minish is Town.

It's possible, yeah. The warlock godfather that likely has babyface doesn't seem like the type that would have a good alignment, though, based on an alignment system. I also don't think the possibility that you're a miller is worth sparing you. Either you're scum and that's one less to worry...

I don't think many people think of categorically not busing as a great strategy, regardless of what site they're from. The meta I'm from has a couple of players who, by policy, never tell lies and a good number of people believe what they say because they've never broken their word. There are...

Not busing as scum makes you more likely to win as town and less likely to win as scum if people take your play-style into account.

Idk why I'd claim cop as scum when I could just get counterclaimed by a real one, especially when there was no real pressure on me.

That's not a realistic possibility. You'd do the same thing in our shoes, I imagine.

Assuming no one has anything they want to say today. Leetic hasn't spoken yet, afaik.

Fwiw, your behavior at the end of day was really scummy before we knew lg was scum. There's a reason I targeted you.

It wasn't a hard read, but certainly worth investigating.

There's a chance you are a Miller, yeah, but not a large enough one to be worth acting on. Not killing a Miller who didn't claim preeminently when the cop spots them would basically be mafia nihilism.

I did, that's why I targeted him n1.

I would have refused it, but he's literally the only person I know I can trust.

Yes

Fine, I'm the cop. This literally accomplishes nothing.

The Sun Fan is scum, you are town. Is that unambiguous enough?

I mean, I'm open to claiming if it's necessary. I just don't see much good in doing it aside from helping a protective role decide whether I'm worth protecting at the cost of mafia knowing whether or not I'm worth devoting resources towards killing.

The mafia community I'm from literally had "paranoia" in its name.

That's mafia, tho.

I don't, tbh. Most of my d1 reading was done pretty hastily considering the circumstances.

There isn't much reason to publicly speculate on it unless you want scum to figure out my role, probably. Or, if you think there's a reason, why it being known is worth the cost of scum knowing as well. The only scum we have down is the Godfather so far, which is good, but we could still have...

one time i tried to soft claim and someone else thought it was a softclaim so they claimed and then they got modkilled for it and i was sad

I mean, roles get revealed in the death post. I don't think it would have been that ambiguous what my N1 results implied had I died before claiming. If you want, I can generate hypothetical results for a variety of mechanical roles based on the past 2 nights if you're worried about losing...

Yeah, it's a pretty BS rule. Such is life, though.

Mechanically speaking, I'm confident he's scum. I'd prefer not to have to claim because it's better for town if scum doesn't know what kind of role gave me that information, but I will if necessary.

It's interesting to me how hard it is to get any sort of a wagon on the Sun Fan going despite the fact that his end of day behavior was extraordinarily scummy based on what we know.

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone right now. I've played with him for like 6 days and I can tell you he's scum pretty definitively.

My soul says he's scum. So does my brain and my heart. Not my appendix, but I got that removed.

That's the plan. If my theory's correct, you're already convinced of that.

Almost forgot: Classic scum tell. Immediate public celebration on a nightkill of scum. This is textbook stuff.

The sooner we kill Sun Fan and confirm that he's scum, the sooner we can track down the next scum, fwiw.

"But now these days are gone, I'm not so self assured Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up the doors"

You picked a bad day to cash in on a playstyle policy town card, Sun Fan. Not buying it.

Same, lol.

Don't worry, I never agree when people try to convince me that Moe is less.

Idk if a tie was your end goal, but you were taking advantage of the confusion to get your vote off of LG and onto other wagons so that they wouldn't get lynched. You forced me into a situation where I had to choose between Ryu and Leet instead of Ryu and LG to break the tie, despite you being...

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Idk what kind of weird reverse mental gymnastics you have to do to reach that conclusion. Granted, it's entirely possible Doc's last minute vote doesn't clear him as town, but it certainly doesn't look scummy to have created danger from a safe situation for scum. To be honest, I had a bit of a...

You're literally scum. It's not even a question. I've never been more certain in my life.

Actually, on further contemplation, it isn't even at all up in the air. Moe is town for sure, I have enough faith in his play to say that much based on what happened yesterday.

Timeline of events during frantic final few minute tie-breaking for those who weren't paying attention: The Sun Fan - 1 (Rubik) Ryuken - 4 (Moe the Moblin, ZinnLav, LittleGumball, Tristan) ZinnLav - 1 (Ryuken) LittleGumball - 2 (The Sun Fan, Funnygurl555) Leetic - 3 (Morbid Minish, DekuNut...

Yeah, we should be good now

You missed that doc switched votes.