Inflexus Timeline Theory

[Inflexus]

My Timeline Theory:


First some brief tidbits of Information before I explain:

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Now I want to argue that the timeline itself is like a child's imagination, a beautiful and creative thing not held back by anything known in this world, by rational reasoning, or anything else.


What I have constructed is the most rational explanation. I will note that this is not what Nintendo has in mind but this is the only logical possibility due to inconsistancy with statements from Nintendo and the plots and other information from the games.


With this in mind the "Legend of Zelda" becomes just that- a Legend;free for the storyteller to embellish and alter and add on to or subtract from-a great story. Now there will be several inconsistancies created with that, and so this timeline theory is based around someone looking at the story rationally and noting that.


This theory has very little to do with the timeline but everything to do with rational thought and I would trust it will be treated as such. It is ad hoc in nature: it was contribed almost exclusively to disprove every other theory out there. I can say quite honestly after looking at it objectively and scientifically it has done just that.


However one must note that while looking at Zelda as a series it is irrational. The storyline, especially between games, would be inconsistant, not only because there are several pieces missing but because it is a legend; things could have happened or could be just stories, or dreams, or alternate versions of the same tale.


Do not forsake your theories and your thoughts on the series, infact I'd encourage the opposite-continue to construct and reconstruct ideas.


I will resolve to use this logic outside of this thread to help critique theories, including my own, to ultimately enlighten our community and come to what I think is an exciting and astounding conclusion.


We are through all the boring repition of possibilities. This is where it gets interesting.


Also some quick notes:


The "Reality Planes" are not numbered for anything other than reference. I'm not trying to imply order with that.


If the games are connected with a "/" on the reality planes graphic, then it means that they probably happened in a parallel reality at the same time or are indestinguishable timewise.


I do concede that some of the games do have direct sequels, but that these are chronologically or logically coherant and don't necessaraly "flow" well.

[linkman8]

I'm not sure that Zelda could exist without a coherently established timeline, it would just seem a bit too much of a stretch.
Granted it makes sense, but I just don't find it likely.

[Matthew_79]

Well.
Myamoto said OoT was first (back in '98)
and everyone knows LoZ and AoL go together
We also know that FS saga is defenetly a timeline

[Inflexus]

Well.
Myamoto said OoT was first (back in '98)
and everyone knows LoZ and AoL go together
We also know that FS saga is defenetly a timeline

Myamoto is a liar then, because the Ocarina of Time doesn't match up with Wind Waker, and none of the other dungeons from the other games maintain that consistancy. There are only two temples in Wind Waker and yet there are 6, 4, 7, or 8 in the other games. It doesn't add up.

[Mehplep]

Myamoto is a liar then, because the Ocarina of Time doesn't match up with Wind Waker, and none of the other dungeons from the other games maintain that consistancy. There are only two temples in Wind Waker and yet there are 6, 4, 7, or 8 in the other games. It doesn't add up.

Have it ever occured to you that Hyrule in WW is FLOODED? Heck, it dosen't even take place in Hyrule, Hyrule is the land on the BOTTOM of the Great Sea. Of course it dosen't have as many Temples, it's a whole new world!

[Inflexus]

Have it ever occured to you that Hyrule in WW is FLOODED? Heck, it dosen't even take place in Hyrule, Hyrule is the land on the BOTTOM of the Great Sea. Of course it dosen't have as many Temples, it's a whole new world!

Then why would only two temples exist? And why would they have changed names? Also, why were the gorons displaced?

It just doesn't add up.

[Mehplep]

Then why would only two temples exist? And why would they have changed names? Also, why were the gorons displaced?

It just doesn't add up.
1. It's two darn different temples! Just because it was six temples in the first game dosen't mean it have to be the six exact temples in all the other games. I don't think that have ever happened, actually. They have nothing to do with the six temples that anyway lies on the bottom of the sea, it's two completely different temples.

2. Now please use your logic. Gorons are rock-people that live in volcanos. If you have played MM, you know that Gorons die when they come in contact with water. Now what happens in WW? Well, the whole place is flooded. Gorons + water = not good. So what happens? Well, they cease to be, they are extreminated.

It adds up very well.

[Inflexus]

1. It's two darn different temples! Just because it was six temples in the first game dosen't mean it have to be the six exact temples in all the other games. I don't think that have ever happened, actually. They have nothing to do with the six temples that anyway lies on the bottom of the sea, it's two completely different temples.


And? It doesn't really matter because it shows that the plot is using whatever the programers find convenient, it has nothing to do with a timeline.



2. Now please use your logic. Gorons are rock-people that live in volcanos. If you have played MM, you know that Gorons die when they come in contact with water. Now what happens in WW? Well, the whole place is flooded. Gorons + water = not good. So what happens? Well, they cease to be, they are extreminated.


The Gorons lived on the top of the largest peak, Death Mountain. They would have easily found shelter.

[Matthew_79]

Myamoto is a liar then, because the Ocarina of Time doesn't match up with Wind Waker, and none of the other dungeons from the other games maintain that consistancy. There are only two temples in Wind Waker and yet there are 6, 4, 7, or 8 in the other games. It doesn't add up.

Myamoto is the guy who MADE zelda -.-

When something floods its not just from the ground up you realize. its rain and ground water and a bunch of other crazyness. and when a flood is this big, Im betting the caves got preety damp.

[blackice_cc]

2. Now please use your logic. Gorons are rock-people that live in volcanos. If you have played MM, you know that Gorons die when they come in contact with water. Now what happens in WW? Well, the whole place is flooded. Gorons + water = not good. So what happens? Well, they cease to be, they are extreminated.

It adds up very well.

This is of topic, but how would the Goron in TP (the one that gives you a bomb bag) in the bottom of the Zora's domain survived? Also, the "traveling merchants" in WW were actually Gorons, and there are Gorons in PH.

[Inflexus]

This is of topic, but how would the Goron in TP (the one that gives you a bomb bag) in the bottom of the Zora's domain survived? Also, the "traveling merchants" in WW were actually Gorons, and there are Gorons in PH.

No that's actually on topic, because it defends my theory with counter evidence. We also know that Gorons do not need to breathe for extended periods of time because of that.

So I'd say that throws the extinction theory out the window.

[Chrono]

READ THE STORYLINES AND PROLOGUES! Hey also take not on this...TWW Ganondorf calls TWW Link the descendant of the Hero of TIME zomg11!!! ones!1

[Inflexus]

READ THE STORYLINES AND PROLOGUES! Hey also take not on this...TWW Ganondorf calls TWW Link the descendant of the Hero of TIME zomg11!!! ones!1

OMFG FALMEZ ARENT ALLOWED QUIT FLAMN ME PLZZZZZZZZ

But really, I think you'll find that the storylines contradict themselves too much for them to be connected outside of a very, very loose sense. A sense of which there is no order whatsoever.

They are just parodies of other stories, and maybe they occasionally play off of eachother, but there's no real time line.

[Dabombster]

Ya know, if there wasn't a storyline, they wouldn't have said that Phantom Hourglass follows DIRECTLY after the events in The Wind Waker.

[Inflexus]

Ya know, if there wasn't a storyline, they wouldn't have said that Phantom Hourglass follows DIRECTLY after the events in The Wind Waker.

Can you link me to evidence please?

[Dabombster]

"Phantom Hourglass picks up almost directly where Wind Waker left off. "

Here's your evidence (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/adventure/thelegendofzeldads/review.html)

[Chrono]

LOL, yes and AoL is a direct sequal to LoZ. MM is a direct sequal to OoT. LA is a direct sequal to ALttP.

[Inflexus]

And yet they are looking for a ghost ship, which you allready got the treasure from. Nice try, but that shows the timelines don't match up.

And Avenged, I'd like to note some other inconsistancies, referring to MM and OoT. One being that Child link can not ride child Epona in OoT, and there was no way to get Epona off the ranch given the way OoT worked out.

[Inflexus]

You fail, MM was proven to be a sequal.

You fail, because Ocarina of Time creates a time paradox, meaning that it would be a never ending loop. Therefore MM would have to occur within this loop, and it might be a "sequel" because it came out after Ocarina of Time, but in no other ways than Twilight Princess is a sequel to Wind Waker.


Are you ****ing stupid? Holy ****ing ****, PH is a direct sequel to TWW. People like you need to fall off a ****ing cliff and die.

Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that Phantom Hourglass is a sequel in terms of storyline to The Wind Waker.

Assuming you are correct, all you have done is put two games in the same "reality plane", you have not created an actual timeline of all Zelda games, you have found a lucky connection between two games. This confirms that the timelines are compartmentalized and not actually flowing, and it suggests at least 4 or 5 different reality planes, so much so that there isn't much of an actual timeline.

[Chrono]

[QUOTE=Inflexus;8470]You fail, because Ocarina of Time creates a time paradox, meaning that it would be a never ending loop. Therefore MM would have to occur within this loop, and it might be a "sequel" because it came out after Ocarina of Time, but in no other ways than Twilight Princess is a sequel to Wind Waker.

Stop arguing against the truth. Link returns to his own time at the end of OoT. But I guess you would have to have beaten the game to know that. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, WHEN WE SAY A ZELDA GAME IS A SEQUAL, THEN IT CAME STRAIGHT FROM NINTENDO, NO THEORIES YOU FOOL! Zelda isn't your thing, I suggest theorizing about something else because you obviously don't know what you're ever talking about with this series.

[Inflexus]

[quote=Inflexus;8470]You fail, because Ocarina of Time creates a time paradox, meaning that it would be a never ending loop. Therefore MM would have to occur within this loop, and it might be a "sequel" because it came out after Ocarina of Time, but in no other ways than Twilight Princess is a sequel to Wind Waker.

Stop arguing against the truth. Link returns to his own time at the end of OoT. But I guess you would have to have beaten the game to know that. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, WHEN WE SAY A ZELDA GAME IS A SEQUAL, THEN IT CAME STRAIGHT FROM NINTENDO, NO THEORIES YOU FOOL! Zelda isn't your thing, I suggest theorizing about something else because you obviously don't know what you're ever talking about with this series.

Link returns to his child form and goes back in time, back to when Ganondorf was on the rise to power. This means that Link would have to deal with Ganondorf still and would be forced into jumping forward in time to slay him again, by jumping forward in time.

The end of the game is what created the time paradox that makes a sequel impossible. Link is caught in a never ending 7 year sequence. Majora's Mask would then be forced to happen sometime within Ocarina. A sequel in terms of the game, yes, but not the storyline and not the timeline. Which ultimately is my point and suggests my theory as the most likely timeline theory available here.

[Mases]

We had a pretty good discussion of the ending of Ocarina of Time in another thread actually.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192

You can discuss your views on the ending.


However, if I am to briefly mention this without making this topic solely about the OOT ending. It is believed that when Young Link returned to the present, he warned Princess Zelda of Ganondorf. Together they were able to prevent Ganondorf from ever taking power. It is not an endless cycle, but just it is presumed that Link and Zelda just prevented Ganondorf from gaining power.


There are some problems with this presumption that create a paradox, but those are discussed in the other thread. The multiple endings and the paradox are not exactly the same thing. The paradox is something I don't exactly understand myself. The alternate ending is just the Adult Link world after Link defeats Ganon. Link is sent back in time but the adult timeline continues without Link.

[Inflexus]

I understand time paradoxes and stuff, it's interesting material for me, and one is created here. I offered a brief commentary(I may try to restate my ideas and go further in depth there later).

However it is not an assumption that time could not go forward, unless multiple realities are created from alternate perspectives and you are okay with the concept of an infinite amount of universes existing simply so that Link can progress forward in time and not create some kind of wormhole or black hole that destroys the universe because it's finite nature has been terminated and replaced with eternal characteristics.

It's easier to believe that the games are seperate and that Nintendo's logic is invalid. It's simpler and it is the most logical belief because Nintendo has lacked consistancy with the information they have provided.

[Matthew_79]

Inflexus, If you have to disprove evrything that Nintendo and myamoto says to make your timeline work, then your timeline is a bunch of bull. Im sorry but your really starting to aggitate me.


All we know as a fan base is this

OoT is first (in 1998 anyway MC could be before it)
MM is a direct sequal to OoT in the Child timeline
WW takes place more then 100 years after OoT in adult timeline
PH is a direct sequal to WW
LoZ is the only time Gannondorf dies
AoL is a Direct sequal of LoZ
LA is a direct sequal of AlttP

And there is a split timeline (if you belive what that one guy said, whom i forgot the name of, when they showed WW at E3.)

This is all fact, after that is where you can speculate where evrything goes

[Inflexus]

Inflexus, If you have to disprove evrything that Nintendo and myamoto says to make your timeline work, then your timeline is a bunch of bull. Im sorry but your really starting to aggitate me.


I'm simply saying that it is impossible to produce a clear timeline because the story depends heavily on impossibilities due to failures when the plots of games don't adhere to the chronological order that Miyamoto and Nintendo claim.



All we know as a fan base is this

OoT is first (in 1998 anyway MC could be before it)


This does not account for Twilight Princess.



MM is a direct sequal to OoT in the Child timeline


I've allready provided an arguement that is yet to be refuted, and proves that Majora's Mask is simply a game loosely affiliated with Ocarina of Time, not a chronological sequel.



WW takes place more then 100 years after OoT in adult timeline
PH is a direct sequal to WW


Once again, loosely based and even at that it doesn't match up with Ocarina of Time in the slightest, one of the hints at this is the altered number of sages(it goes from 6 in Ocarina to 2 in Wind Waker).


LoZ is the only time Gannondorf dies


Twilight Princess as well, so your assertion is refuted.




AoL is a Direct sequal of LoZ


I'd like to see where this is revealed, and where the storyline is just a game sequel or a chronological sequel.

Once again, a URL, a press release, whatever. I'd like to see the actual claim in it's original context.



LA is a direct sequal of AlttP


Where is this claim made? I need a source and the original context.



And there is a split timeline (if you belive what that one guy said, whom i forgot the name of, when they showed WW at E3.)


If you can find that, let me know. I would like to see it.



This is all fact, after that is where you can speculate where evrything goes

Speculation is not the limit. Just because we don't have all the evidence doesn't mean we can't create logical theories to explain the current state of the Zelda universe.

[Chrono]

Its quite sad you need so much proof for stuff that is common sense.

[Inflexus]

Its quite sad you need so much proof for stuff that is common sense.

"Common sense" is oftentimes wrong and relies heavily on assumption. In order to logically construct ideas, you can not simply rely on it alone.

[Twili123prince]

There has to be a timeline.Then again oot and mm are connected.

[linkman8]

My main concern is how you can think MM is merely loosely affiliated with OOT. Me being a believer of the split timeline, in the timeline where Link and Zelda are children and warn the king of Ganondorf's intentions, Navi leaves Link and he sets out to find her. This leads directly into the events of Majora's Mask.

[Matthew_79]

My main concern is how you can think MM is merely loosely affiliated with OOT. Me being a believer of the split timeline, in the timeline where Link and Zelda are children and warn the king of Ganondorf's intentions, Navi leaves Link and he sets out to find her. This leads directly into the events of Majora's Mask.

And even if they didnt warn anyone about ganondorf, he still would going to find Navi.
The horse you can easly asume he got after he went back to being a kid, seeing as he now knew alot about Epona. ITs not like link forgot his escapade in the future when he went back to being a kid

[Inflexus]

There has to be a timeline.Then again oot and mm are connected.

Yes, that's true. If MM is a chronological sequel than it violates the time paradox and the split timeline theory has failed.


My main concern is how you can think MM is merely loosely affiliated with OOT. Me being a believer of the split timeline, in the timeline where Link and Zelda are children and warn the king of Ganondorf's intentions, Navi leaves Link and he sets out to find her. This leads directly into the events of Majora's Mask.

Did it say in Majora's Mask that Link was looking for Navi? I thought he was looking for "an old friend" that people presumed to be Navi. I'd like to see some sources that confirm or deny this if it's possible.


And even if they didnt warn anyone about ganondorf, he still would going to find Navi.
The horse you can easly asume he got after he went back to being a kid, seeing as he now knew alot about Epona. ITs not like link forgot his escapade in the future when he went back to being a kid

Actually Zelda would have ran away from Ganondorf and wouldn't be at the castle, given the 7 year gap that is created when using the Temple of Time. This means that even if Link is conciously aware of what is going to happen, he warped back in a period where the doors to the Temple of Time should have been sealed and wouldn't have been able to even allow him through.

That kind of logical flaw indicates there is no grand timeline, rather some games with loose affiliations with others.

I'll create a graphic soon to help clarify my arguement on the timelines.

[Matthew_79]

The game never said that ganondorf went in right after link, im sure gannondorf didnt know it was open for a good amount of time.
He could have gone in and take the triforce of power anytime during those 7 years.

here is you you can show it chronologicly

`````````` OoT
````````` /````\
``` ```` /``````\
``` ``` MM`````WW
`````` /`````````\
````` /```````````\
````others ``````` PH



Where is your problem?




Edit, why didnt the spaces work?.... picture not working they way i wanted, but you can still see it

[Inflexus]

The game never said that ganondorf went in right after link, im sure gannondorf didnt know it was open for a good amount of time.
He could have gone in and take the triforce of power anytime during those 7 years.


Ganondorf did go in though, he said that he had followed you the whole time and he was suspecting you.



here is you you can show it chronologicly

`````````` OoT
````````` /````\
``` ```` /``````\
``` ``` MM`````WW
`````` /`````````\
````` /```````````\
````others ``````` PH



Where is your problem?


Majora's Mask and Ocarina happened at the same time. Majora's mask happened with child link, and with the Ocarina of time, therefore it had to have happened within Ocarina of Time. It is not a sequel.


All your items from Wind Waker are gone when you start Phantom Hourglass, no? Whatever happened to them? It doesn't make sense to randomly loose all that you had.

And I've allready proven that the timeline can't split because it is impossible, given the time paradox, for Link to resolve the events of the past without compromising the future. Link creates a never-ending time loop that he is caught in, for the rest of eternity.

Time Paradox=No Timeline.

[Matthew_79]

Thats beacuse WW takes place (said this before) More the a 100 years after. Link is still traped in the place they traped Gannondorf in, only he escaped.

Yes MM is both withen and after OoT, he gets sent back to being a kid at the end of OoT but still after what happoned in the first 3 dugeons, in child timeline the second part of OoT has not happoned, but link still remebers it. In adult timeline it all did.



I asumed that MM took place in the 7 year gap in the middle of. By this I mean that link progressed untill the point in OOT where he is transported forwards 7 years, during those seven years MM takes place, though link sees it as happening after OOT, and has memorys of OOT happening, thats why he is looking for navi.


See, he understands it
what happoned 7 years after he steped into the temple of time NEVER happoned in the child timeline. Only Link knew what originally happoned

[Inflexus]

Thats beacuse WW takes place (said this before) More the a 100 years after. Link is still traped in the place they traped Gannondorf in, only he escaped.


That doesn't account for the missing items though, Link still ought to have the full inventory that he had when you beat WW.



Yes MM is both withen and after OoT, he gets sent back to being a kid at the end of OoT but still after what happoned in the first 3 dugeons, in child timeline the second part of OoT has not happoned, but link still remebers it. In adult timeline it all did.


It depends on the state of the Temple of Time when Link got sent back. Link was sent back to the Temple but that means that since the doors were open, it was back to right before Link pulled out the sword for the first time. Zelda wouldn't have been in the castle, she would have been on the run allready. Hyrule would have been on it's way to chaos.

So even at that, it doesn't add up. The time paradox is not resolved and is impossible for Link to evade.





See, he understands it
what happoned 7 years after he steped into the temple of time NEVER happoned in the child timeline. Only Link knew what originally happoned

Link couldn't exist after those 7 years because Zelda would send him back in time in an attempt to prevent it from happening. Nintendo and Zelda both seemed to skip the part that this rips a fatty fabric in the rational "space and time" part of the series, even with time travel, because preventing the events that enabled you to prevent the events is a paradox, you resolve it and then instantaneously unresolve it.

Make sense?

[Matthew_79]

Your treating the split timeline as 1 timeline
When the timeline split, the become 2 seprate timelines haveing nothing to do with each other

[Inflexus]

Your treating the split timeline as 1 timeline

I address that a bit with this post, I'd recommend you read the whole thing but this scratches the surface of the theory.


Link's timeline was based heavily on his decendants, but Link doesn't have a way to make kids unless he's an adult. This would indicate that all the games would have to had happened on a single time line(the "child Link timeline),and/or a single plane of reality, over the course of several generations.

However that contradicts the 3 or 4 reality planes(I would argue for more around 5-7 at least) needed for the split timeline to be a possibility.

[Chrono]

Is that your only reason has to why PH can't be a sequal? Its ZELDA, one of the main points to the game is collecting items...How about the fact that Tetra is even in it?

" Link is at sea with his friend Tetra and her pirate friends. The game takes place just three months after Link’s epic journey in the Wind Waker"

[Inflexus]

Is that your only reason has to why PH can't be a sequal? Its ZELDA, one of the main points to the game is collecting items...How about the fact that Tetra is even in it?

" Link is at sea with his friend Tetra and her pirate friends. The game takes place just three months after Link’s epic journey in the Wind Waker"

It's a logical inconsistancy. It indicates that the games are not matching up the way that they should.

And if they don't add up, my theory on the timeline is correct.

They don't add up.

My theory is correct.

[Inflexus]

No your theory is not.

Nope.

Not correct.

You have NOT proved anything.

Stop arguing just because you're wrong.


That's quite the claim. It's unfortunately demolished though, thanks to the mountains of logical evidence in support of my theory. My theory is logically sound and has a factual premise, is it possible that you simply don't understand it?

[Inflexus]

Stop arguing against the truth. Link returns to his own time at the end of OoT. But I guess you would have to have beaten the game to know that. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, WHEN WE SAY A ZELDA GAME IS A SEQUAL, THEN IT CAME STRAIGHT FROM NINTENDO, NO THEORIES YOU FOOL! Zelda isn't your thing, I suggest theorizing about something else because you obviously don't know what you're ever talking about with this series.

There are only a few games I havn't beaten in the series:

Adventure of Link
Oracle of Seasons/Ages
Link's Awakening
Phantom Hourglass

And I want you to take some time to read the opening post, I think I clarify my position a lot better now, I amended it in a way that will hopefully actually open up possibilities in your mind and actually put us on the same page, so to speak.

In fact, I hope everyone can go back and re-read the new, edited opening post(OP as I may refer to it). I'm actually rather excited about it.

[Matthew_79]

There is something called multi-quote

Anyways,
LA goes with AlttP.

Also you cant have a time paradox if there are 2 timelines, like I said before it seems you are thinking of 2 timelines that connect, Hyrule A got sealed off from B when the temple was closed.

I feel alot calmer posting now then in my other posts, this one is not an attack on your therie.

[Inflexus]

Also you cant have a time paradox if there are 2 timelines, like I said before it seems you are thinking of 2 timelines that connect, Hyrule A got sealed off from B when the temple was closed.

Hyrule A was merely 7 years behind with the same events set in motion, so I don't see it as being anything different. It still would create a paradox, so the split wouldn't be able to go there.

[Chrono]

Hyrule A was merely 7 years behind with the same events set in motion, so I don't see it as being anything different. It still would create a paradox, so the split wouldn't be able to go there.

Have you seen the ending of OoT? The future is still moving forward, the people of Hyrule celebrate the victory against Ganondorf and the Sages make a small appearance.

In the present, Link moves on with his life and then MM occurs.

[Inflexus]

Have you seen the ending of OoT? The future is still moving forward, the people of Hyrule celebrate the victory against Ganondorf and the Sages make a small appearance.

That future depended on Link being there to create it, and in order for it to be maintained, the paradox would have to be resolved with the sealing of Ganon.



In the present, Link moves on with his life and then MM occurs.

That doesn't add up though. How could Link ever exist in the future if he didn't have any decendants or if his legend never happened to begin with? No one would remember anything.

[MrMosley]

Inflexus, just about all your points are ones which I have agreed with in the past. No timeline, it being a Legend, which are known to over time, be changed and told in different ways, hence different renditions of the game's storyline. And also, what you just said, that Link, if he returned to the time that he departed to the future, would therefore render all events which he done in the future non-existant.

But there is really no arguing these points. Miyamoto, the creator of the series, said there is some kind of timeline. That, in fact, would be rational considering "he made the thing". If he said Link was really a woman this whole time, no one could argue that statement necessarily. That's why I basically stopped trying. Yes, it makes a hell of a lot more sense if there was no direct time that everything was lain out, if it was just one story told different ways. It would be easier as well. And it is also more rational to say that the Future of OoT couldn't have happend, but it did.

Without a timeline of generations, which is what a lot of people theorize about, the series would still have games which connected, and Wind Waker does connect to OoT. The opening story wouldn't tell that story unless it did. It states that because the events of OoT, what we have now in WW is how the current world came to be (at least Link's world). So OoT must be fact and take place before WW, in order for WW to be rational in itself. Yeah, you can say that neither stories are true over the other, but that wouldn't make sense considering, WW does make many references to OoT, Ganon, the Hero of Time, and others.

I would like to have kept my original theory that, it is a Legend, told different ways, but really, it's just more fun to look at the details of the games and say, well because of this, it had to happen then. Even if you don't believe in a timeline, there are many of the games which apparently connect and happen in coordination with each other.

Adventure of Link - a few seasons after - Legend of Zelda
Majora's Mask - not too long after - Ocarina of Time
Wind Waker - about a hundred years after - Ocarina of Time
Phantom Hourglass - directly after - Wind Waker

Taking into account the sequels and such, there is a timeline within the games. The Oracle series happen one after the next, depending on what order you play them in. The Four Swords games, which I personally don't like, also keep the same elements and stories.

The only stand-alone games with no real connection to anything else would be:

A Link to the Past - Yeah, it talks about some sages, and Ganon, and the Sacred Realm, but nothing in the story directly links it to any other game. Therefore, theoretically, if one wanted to make a timeline, this game could fall just about anywhere within it.

Link's Awakening - although most say it is a sequel to ALttP, I've never heard of the connection directly

Twilight Princess - Supposidly, this game was going to help to reveal a lot of information reguarding the timeline of the series, when in reality, it only made things ten times worse. This game mentions no connection to any other Legend in particular, only that Link is given the clothes of the Hero by the Gods. One could assume they mean Link in OoT (like the story went in WW), but no one knows for sure.

Minish Cap - People say that this game has to have happend first. I, don't see how. Personally, Minish Cap, judging from the artwork and look of Hyrule, my first take on it was "Well, here's Link and Zelda from Wind Waker....They have found the new Hyrule". So I played it, and found that this was not the case, but nonetheless, still do not see how it HAS to come before anything. It is a stand alone game, with no reference to any other game.

So you see, there is a timeline for most of the games. If it wasn't for Twilight Princess, in my book, we would be able to make probably a very believable timeline with the other games.

But I do respect your theories. It is actually good to have someone who thinks about it more simply than arguing what they feel is fact against someone else's opinion. Which, is of course, what one would generally do when they have an opinion. But I'm talking about people who are just like "ITS LIKE THIS, THIS IS TRUE, NO ONE ELSE CAN SAY IT ISN'T TRUE!!!" People like that, need to do something else for about an hour, and they would be surprised at how much life there is other than Zelda.

I started tryin to figure out a timeline just because I wanted to see if I could come up with anything that would connect the games, or else I would still be saying its all a big fairytale told to Zelda at night before she goes to bed. I mean think about that for a minute. Parents tell little girls about "Princess (insert daughters name here) Lived in a big castle...blah blah blah....Knight in Shining Armor Rescued Her....THE END." For all we know, all these games could be dreams Zelda is having about some bedtime story she was told by the King one night. So write that one down, because if no one has came up with that theory yet, you heard it here first.