Was Argorok Really That Impressive?

[Axle the Beast]

I hear a lot these days about how cool of a boss Argorok from Twilight Princess was. I hear people say he's an awesome boss, even sometimes suggesting or stated to be the coolest boss in the game.

I'm just really confused as to how he could be considered so cool. I can respect someone liking him, of course, I just don't really get it... :huh:

He was really cool looking, I'll give him that. And it was interesting how he was fought at the the top of the City in the Sky (although I kind of hated that dungeon). But when it came down to it, not only was the fight pathetically easy (as were all of the bosses in TP), but it was extremely mellow. :? Despite the boss's fierce appearance, the semi-aerial battle, and the fact that he was an armored, bad-***, fire-breathing dragon, the fight was calm and slow. They had a slow, calm and eerie tune playing the whole time for both phases of the fight, and he didn't have a very aggressive attack strategy.

I just... didn't think it worked out very well. Maybe if he were a different sort of creature or his battle was more fast-paced and dangerous I would have liked it better, but as it was I thought it was executed rather poorly and was actually one of my least favorite fights out of the entire game.

But what are your guys' thoughts on it? And what do you think of my points about the fight? Again, I mean no disrespect to the people who like the boss or even the boss itself really, I'm just a bit confused. :sweat:

[Durion]

I happen to agree with you, Argorok was a big bad *** fire breathing dragon that has the power to attack fast and aggresively....but he didn't. I do think he is a cool boss but I never really thought he was that impressive, he attacked rather slowly and pretty much let Link kill him. I know that he changed his strategy to make it a little harder to kill him but it didn't really do much, you just had to start moving the other way then attack him from that side.

It is problematic though because everything in TP was so easy to kill so they couldn't really make Argorok hard to beat otherwise the new gamers that probably couldn't beat the older, harder games couldn't really do anything at that stage without getting annoyed. If they had made the game as whole harder then they could have opened up the potential for Argorok to be the big bad *** armoured dragon that he really is. He would have been able to use a much faster aggresive attacking strategy while and would have had an battle stage that had potential in the hardness of the strategy needed to beat him.

The above paragraph though isn't a full excuse to why he wasn't so epic and was easy to beat because of his bad strategy, Stallord was an epic boss with two great halves to his fight and could actually cause some hurt to you when you were trying to attack him unlikely Argorok where it wasn't very hard to stop his attempts to hurt you and then use the oppertunity to strike him hard in the back.

Personally, I don't think that Argorok as a whole was that impressive, he needed more speed, more dragon like qualities and more aggresion in his attacking strategy, maybe then he would have been a boss to remember as impressive.

[TVTMaster]

Well, one of the reasons I was psyched about Argorok is because I actually fought him without knowing that you could Z-target things to shoo them with projectiles. That meant I had to manually shoot the Peahats and his tail with the Clawshot, which honestly made the fight a lot more tense. When he turned his firestream around, I kept getting roasted. It was only until my second playthrough that I realized you could just alternate the Z and B buttons to win, which honestly made it a lot less epic. This also made targeting the caravan and Kargorocs in the escort mission a lot tougher, and really a lot of projectile-based fights are made a lot more fun by neglecting Z-targeting. I'm starting to think a lot of the game's bosses could have been harder if you didn't have the ability to Z-target: Morpheel's eye was harder to hit and you had to fight off the bomb fish faster, and in the second phase I had to make sure I positioned myself in order that'd he'd miss me by enough for me to get behind his eye and get a straight shot. Aeralfos were harder, too, and various horseback segments ended up a lot more dangerous.

That's my personal experience, though- while I really liked Argorok's setting and music, the fact that he'd only attack when you were up high and the absurd number of recovery hearts in the grass made it a bit too easy on my second time through.

[Master Kokiri 9]

Well he looked cool but the concept in my opinion was lame and he was actually the easiest TP boss I've ever fought. Heck Diababa was actually harder in my opinion (even though he didn't damage me at all either). Plus the fight was just really slow and boring. In my opinion he was the least cool boss in the entire series instead of just the game.

[Reyh]

Nah. He wasn't really all that great. I think it was more about the environment that made him seem epic. The high altitude, the rain. And of course don't forget the dramatic boss fight music. Especially when perched on his back stabbing at his weak spot. Other then that, he was just another boss that looked good.

Though this fanart does do the boss justice, IMO: 2404

By the way, I found that on DeviantArt. A long time ago. So I don't remember the artist's name. Though all credit goes to them. But, that is what I think of, when I face off against this boss.

[Ikana]

He does look intimidating but despite his looks he just to easy.I wish he was just a little bit more challenging.

[Zarom]

I never really liked Argorok. Like people said, the fight was slow and very easy. Argorok was one of the easiest boss in TP, IMO, even if none of the bosses were hard. Yes he was an impressive dragon and looked intimidating at first, but he wasn't able to do much. His firebreath attack was is strongest move, which was so easy too avoid. Now I can beat that boss without losing a heart. He really should have been more difficult, especially since he was one of the last bosses. But really, the whole battle was kind of...dull. Argorok is probably my least favorite boss from TP, even Diababa was more cool than him. Yeah, truly.

[vatti]

I have not defeated argorocfk yet, but my friend has and they say that he is totally impresive.

[Steve]

In the end, I think the only reason he is so popular is his epic appearance, and the fact that he's one of the few standard dragons within The Legend of Zelda series. It's brought to you as some sort of climatic showdown, and winds up being a very slow-paced boss battle, and a rather disappointing one be it at that. To top that off, it was also very gimmicky, i mean swing from Peahat to Peahat? That's pretty lame, especially when they're practically irrelevant to the battle. Ultimately, they figured they could trow in some lightning and rain to make an epic scenery, which merely compensated for the mediocre fight.

[Y2K3]

I never liked him, but as opposed to everyone here, it was because I found him to be too difficult. For me, he was by far the hardest boss - and not in a fun way. I don't remember a whole lot about the battle, but I can remember dying a few times. It was definately nerve-wrecking, and I hate feeling that while playing games. :P

[octorok74]

Argorok was amazing. Not only did he look cool, but the boss battle could be quite challenging. The second half of the battle was the toughest, but hitting that gem on his back gave me something that no other boss could. I was riding on a dragon. What a thrill.

[Link1432]

I actually liked Argarok. He was one of my favourite boss battles.

To me, the surroundings play a lot into how much I like a boss battle (half of the reason I love the OoT final boss was the atmosphere). Dark, cloudy, rain pouring, lightning cracking. It was awesome.

I also found it to be one of the hardest boss battles in the game (even though it was still pretty easy). It took me forever on the second stage, because to get to his back, you have to be uber-quick about it.

So, overall, yes. Argarok was that impressive.

[Alex_Da_Great]

Well Argorok was cool looking and I enjoyed battling him but I wouldn't say he is the best boss in the series, nor in the game. Maybe people think that Argorok is a cool boss because it is different to most bosses.

[Raven]

didn't like this boss so much... Link has fought a few dragons over the years but i think this time was a bit of a let down. Even Volvagia (i think that's it's name) the boss from the fire temple did way more damage than this dragon. although if you fight Argorok with only the wooden sword it could take up to an hour to beat him (sounds crazy but you keep the wooden sword in TP). funny how Zant doesn't take you to this location when your fighting him, probably because the twilight never invaded the City in the Sky. Anyway Argorok wasn't bad, but he was also far from being one of the best Zelda bosses in my books.

I would like to see a few more dragons in future Zelda games. I think it would be neat to battle a red and a blue at the same time (kind of like Twinmold) or maybe a golden dragon from the sacred realm =O

[Kell]

I think one of the cooler parts of this boss was the fact that you were able to see him up at his tower from the earlier parts of the dungeon on. As cool as this boss looked, no dragon boss yet takes the cake over Volvagia.

Slightly off-topic, I think one of my favorite bosses in TP was probably Armogohma; it looked cool, it was a fun fight, and it hearkened back to the first dungeon in OoT for some nostalgic goodness too lol

[Smitie]

I have a weakness for dragon-like bosses and enemies in Zelda games, so when I saw Argorok before entering the city in the sky temple (sheesz I hate this temple) I was amazed.

Sadly, the boss fight dissappointed me a lot. Most of the time Argorok was out of sight and he wasn't agressive enough. Volvagia for example chased you while breathing fire, but Argorok flew somewhere behind the camera doing nothing. Argorok looked awesome, but he was too friendly to be an intimidating boss. So next time I would like to see a dragon boss who really wants to kill Link instead of one showing Link how a dragon destroys a bridge in the background.

[Axle the Beast]

I think one of the cooler parts of this boss was the fact that you were able to see him up at his tower from the earlier parts of the dungeon on. As cool as this boss looked, no dragon boss yet takes the cake over Volvagia.

Slightly off-topic, I think one of my favorite bosses in TP was probably Armogohma; it looked cool, it was a fun fight, and it hearkened back to the first dungeon in OoT for some nostalgic goodness too lol
Uh, actually... Armogohma was actually another boss I had serious issues with. :xd:

I thought the fight was pretty simple and boring in that all you did was wait for her to open her eye and then shooting her and smash her with the statue. Then there was that obnoxious second phase in which you just had to chase her around the room... I think she might actually be my least favorite boss... -.-

[Seanileus]

First Zelda boss I encountered that made me think it'll be challenging was Agrorok, and he was, but it was a bit repetitive, still pretty hard though.

[43ForceGems]

I thought that Argarok was the easiest boss in the game, next to Morpheel. It's weird because you fight them almost the same way, they both have the last of what you were collecting, you used the clawshot/double clawshot, and they had the same music. Awkward. :awkward: So, no. He wasn't.

[GaFF]

I need to play TP more, I can't really remember the boss besides the fact he looked awesome.

Impressive bosses? Stallord. Loved that boss. And Blizzeta.

[Igos du Ikana]

Argorok did certainly look impressive, and it was intimidating when you stared at the sky and saw him flying around. But ultimately, it was a weakling boss that didn't really deal out enough damage to make the fight intense. The way you beat him was also a bit boring, and for me the second stage was very boring, with not enough real challenge. All you did was Spiderman grappling from Peahat to Peahat.They really could've done a better job on it.

[Xinnamin]

I can't remember Argorok too well, having last fought him years ago, but I do remember that the atmosphere was awesome, with the rain and lightning and whatnot. However, that, and the awesomeness of just seeing his fire breath, was all that was memorable. Fighting him was not, since he didn't act like how I thought he would. In the second stage, I was at least expecting him to move rather than just rotate in one place the whole time. I mean he's a giant dragon for crying out loud, the least he could have done was try to eat Link or smack into him or something.

[bellum]

I really did not think of him as impressive or anything like that. I haven't really heard of people talking about him as the best boss in the game very often, but I thought he was an okay boss. I think he was one of the hardest boss in the game, but not a very hard boss. Still, no boss has made me get a Game Over. I think he looked quite interesting of a boss. I saw that someone said earlier in the thread that it was the environment that made Argorok seem epic. I agree with that. I still think that Fyrus looked much cooler than him, despite what others say.

[Dark Princess]

I heard a lot of cool things about the boss, but when I got Twilight Princess and fought him, I was kinda disappointed, kinda not. I had a hard time with him when it came to moving around the peahats. When I targeted, it would point the wrong way at times. :< But other than that, he could have been harder.

[Aki Graham]

I agree, also. The thing that made him less bad*** was the music. I liked that you finally got to use the double clawshot for something other then hooking onto vines and stuff, but that's what you did in the boss fight. I found it mediocre and boring. The one thing I like about him was getting onto his back and slashing at him, then him falling. It made me think at first 'Hey, Link is on a dragon for once.'

The answer to your question is this: He's a frickin' dragon.

[yann]

I don't like him.
To be fair, alot of the reasons that I don't like him for are terrible;
- He's not big enough for a dragon.
- It's really unrealistic how you get round him without him turning around.
- The arena you fight him on is TINY!
- ...He really isn;t big enough!

To be fair, I'm heavily contradicting myself because Bongo Bongo is my favourite boss in the series !

[ChargewithSword]

He was impressive at first glance. His fight had, pretty good music to say the least, but it is as you say. The fight was too slow and much to easy. The experience itself could've been improved has some more distinctive and fast paced aerial combat was in play instead of jumping of Arkorok's back and just hacking away while he did nothing. It also didn't help that the peahats didn't move very often, perhaps if they were moving quickly and Argorok made an effort to try and catch you as you jump from peahat to peahat, maybe the fight would have been more intense.

Let me point out another Dragon boss, Volvagia. His fight was intense because of the changing camera movements that came with the fight. He was fast in the air and kept you on your toes trying to get a good shot. When he was on the ground it was a quick game of whack a mole. However, this can also be attributed by how fast Link can swing in OOT. compared to TP.

Overall Argorok was disappointing.

[Mandi]

Argorok was totally radical looking and considering he was the the last boss of the Mirror of Twilight collecting I figured it was going to be some...radical, epic battle. I was mistaken :P Despite Argorok not-being-all-that-he-was-made-out-to-be I still enjoyed the battle and I'm one of the few that seem to have thought that the temple was pretty good. I may actually go as far as to say it was my favorite (after Arbiter's Grounds, of course :lol: ).

[irishfire]

They should stop putting so much emphasis on how a boss looks and more on how it plays out. Like, for example, fighting a darknut in TP was really fun for me. They should make bosses like a darknut, you and the other "human" or whatever a darknut is, cuz when its helmet is off in WW it looks like a dog,. but whatever they should make it yuo and yuor sword, and the other person and there sword. thats very epic if yuo ask me and requiresa some strategy.

[Kitsu]

I don't like him.
To be fair, alot of the reasons that I don't like him for are terrible;
- He's not big enough for a dragon.
- It's really unrealistic how you get round him without him turning around.
- The arena you fight him on is TINY!
- ...He really isn;t big enough!

To be fair, I'm heavily contradicting myself because Bongo Bongo is my favourite boss in the series !

Yea, I agree. He wasn't really anything very amazing. I didn't enjoy fighting him very much, it felt somewhat boring, actually. The arena was too small for such a fight, however I did like the way it was set up. Having to use the claw shots to reach the top of the monoliths, then clawshot from one to the other, was fun.
But the boss itself wasn't that difficult, or large, which disappointed me.

[Kazumi]

It wouldn't say that it was really impressive, as I see things forty times more impressive in other games on a daily basis, but it was the fact that it was fun that really made me like it.

Unlike Kitsu above me, I found the boss to be very fun to fight. Even though it was easy. But that's a fault that all of the Twilight Princess bosses share. I liked the fact that you were so high up in the sky, and it was storming and everything. And I loved how you had to clawshot around him; it made you feel like you were flying around and fighting a great dragon, thousands of feet above Hyrule. It was one of the better bosses in TP.

But I do agree with it's faults. It needed to be bigger to give it that more epic feel. It was a bit on the small side. And an awesome dragon needs to at least be difficult. I didn't have any problems that I can remember with the arena, but I have to say that I would have liked it more if instead of fighting on top of City in the Sky, you actually fought in the sky above Hyrule. And you could gave down and see the stormy fields, lakes and mountains below. And of course Hyrule Castle.

Either way, it wasn't a great boss, but it was still pretty good. I expect better epic dragon battles ten thousand feet above the ground in the next game.

[Bigelover88]

The last week I have been playing TP and I must say I love all the bosses. From Morpheel till Argorok were all fun. I don't remember the former ones that well because the last time I played TP was last year January....................yikes!!! But now I caught up with it I am hooked and I loved Argorok! Extremely easy but fun

[Skull_Kid]

Argorok was pretty good looking, that's a fact, but, I thought that there were boss in TP that were more impressive than It

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Yea, I agree. He wasn't really anything very amazing. I didn't enjoy fighting him very much, it felt somewhat boring, actually. The arena was too small for such a fight, however I did like the way it was set up. Having to use the claw shots to reach the top of the monoliths, then clawshot from one to the other, was fun.
But the boss itself wasn't that difficult, or large, which disappointed me.

This. I'll be the first to tell you I had a lot of fun with TP's bosses, even though they were easy, but Argorok really didn't appeal all that much. The double claw shot thing was cool at first, but beyond that, really nothing to get excited about. Blizzeta and Stallord were the complete opposite though. How could you have two bosses that rocked (Stallord, Blizzeta) and then two bosses that just failed (Aroghoma, Argorok) ?

[JosephII]

It has been a long time since I have played the game, but Agorok is one of the least memorable bosses from that game. I don't remember any of the bosses being very hard. Blizzeta and Stallord, as stated above, are memorably fun even though they lacked too much challenge.

[Skull_Kid]

IMO, stallord was the most memorable, due to the fun factor of the battle.
As for the hardest boss.... hm.... maybe Dark beast Ganon

[98pika]

I like that boss not the temple he is the hardest boss in TP because he has the fire coming out of his mouth and he turns all the way around and you got the peahats its realy hard but cool :)

[Link-182]

All of the bosses are rediculously easy.
I'm playing TP with three hearts, using the Ordon sword and no shield and I only had troubles with one part, and that was the MINIboss in Snowpeak ruins.
died like six times, but then I ended up killing him without getting hit once in the end. I'm just getting to the city in the sky right now, but I'm pretty sure the miniboss in that place will be harder too. Something about boss battels, they are waaay to predictive and waaaay too easy. Ganondorf should be a bit of a challange though...
whats with this take 1/2 of a heart from a ferocious ddragon attack when I've got sixteen hearts? NOT epic.
But I guess they have to please both the hardcore and the casual/newcomers to zelda. well, they did please me, they've given their last four zelda gaems to the newcomers, and I don't think they're gonna stop.... what a sad realization....
Anyways, Argorok and Mortheel looked the coolest. IF looks could kill, Argorok would have been a sweet battle.