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Midna666
10-12-2009, 02:52 AM
Ever since Twilight Princess come out Midna has become a popular Zelda character.
In fact a lot of people who dislike TP still like Midna.
So I want to know what everyone thinks of Midna do you like her, or do you think that she was a bad idea that Nintendo should have never had?
I personally like Midna, she's my favorite Zelda character.
I like the way that she developed and grew thoughout TP.
She seemed almost lifelike(for a video game character).
Zarom
10-12-2009, 03:04 AM
Yeah. Midna is absolutely one of the greatest character in the Zelda series. She has so much personnality, and like you said, she seemed lifelike. Also, it was so fun to see her growing up during the game. Plus, Midna looked great in her two forms, she was a very interesting character and she was really important to the story. Clearly one of the best character in Zelda. Zant was awesome too.
Raven
10-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Yes I liked Midna a lot, every time i play TP i notice more about her character development from cut-scenes. she seems to change her opinion of Hyrule and the Twilight in the end, diciding on her own course of action (which apparently was: hangin out with Link the whole game and be useful). But anyway i liked how her attitude changed later on, i think its around when you get the master sword, she realizes that it accepted you as a hero of legend, she looks at Link in amazement and then before the end of that scene she looks like she is about to say something else but doesn't as she slips back into Links shadow.
they obviously become very good friends by the end of their quest, almost like a Navi/Link sorta relationship, and I think like OoT our hero will want to search out his lost freind but may never find her.
One thing that really caught my attention was the part after you are locked up in the dugeon as wolf link, Midna flies through a set of bars, separating into little pieces and then reasembling (wow i thought). Then i noticed that she bigins to wave you over except her hand/hair is waving turned downward which is how they wave you over on the other side of the world.
anyway thats probably just because the deveopers are from the other side of the world but its neat because a bit of thier culture was expressed through Midna to all of us on the Western side of the globe.
lastly I dont ever want Link and Midna to meet again, not because i don't like her because I DO! but because their parting was bittersweet and sad and i'd like to keep it that way, i wouldn't change that fact if i could because somehow in my mind it's just seems more... epic..
Durion
10-12-2009, 03:38 PM
I thought Midna was an excellent addition to the Zelda Roster, She added a large amount of backstory to the game. I noticed that her angry, bitter and greedy personality slowly sunk away to show her true personality of being kind, friendly and caring for others in the later stages of the game.
She really progressed into an awesome addition as the game got futher into the game, Her cutscenes were great and made TP what it was (although many people out there don't like this game much). In my opinion, she is one of the greatest Zelda characters ever made. I just wish that they could have left us an ending which could give us the idea that she mayt return in the future, Unfortunately though, she will probably never make a proper return outside of legends.
Overall, as I have said a few times before, Midna was excellent, surpassing the likes of Navi and Tatl by far in greatness. They don't even come close to Midna, She adds a lot to TP unlike the fairies to their games in my opinion.
knowlee
10-12-2009, 04:10 PM
I think Midna is an awesome character. I loved how that she wasn't just another "helper" of Link's that would guide him along his journey. She had an actual backstory and a link to what was going on in the game. She also took an active role in helping Link instead of just giving him hints (for example: destroying the shield around Hyrule Castle, helping Link and Zelda escape from the castle, helping Link get rid of Zant, etc.). I also found her to be a unique character in terms of the role she played and the backstory that she possessed.
So yes, I think that Midna was a good character. :)
Master Kokiri 9
10-12-2009, 06:28 PM
Midna is hands down the best Zelda sidekick ever and so far the only one that wasn't truly annoying. First of all she's kinda funny with all her little sarcasm and whatnot. Then there's the fact that she actually tied into the overall plot of the game. Nintendo never pulled that off again. Althogh Elzo was good like Midna but he was annoying. But Nintendo didn't create Elzo. Anyways back on topic Midna also actually physically helps Link. So far only Elzo, Cielia, Leaf, and Neri have done this. Although Midna's help is most erm... helpful (she allows you to transform into a wolf, warp, she lets you do Midna jumps, the Midna Charged Attack and so much more) while Neri's was most useless (defense upgrade in a game where you could easily not use a shield at all), Leaf's help was cool but essentiall useless as all the enemies in the game were weak as a globin, Elzo is a key to doing things (in a world where you must shrink an annoying hat called Elzo gives his annoying help), Cielia only helped in the final boss and gave you another useless upgrade. The only reason I like Leaf and Neri more than Cielia is because they rarely talk at all while Cielia's yapping about something useless all the time. Midna is just the bomb. She is by far the best sidekick in Nintendo history (and possibly gaming in general).
Ver-go-a-go-go
10-12-2009, 06:33 PM
I would go as far to say she's done the best with character development out of anyone in the entire series. Like you guys have said above, she starts out pretty bad as far as her attitude is, but she slowly gets better with it. One thing I noticed is that after you saved her from Zant's curse, when you press Z to call her, she no longer says "What? What do you want?" in what seemed to me like a pushy tone. Instead, she says "You need something, Link?" in a much more kind type of way. This, along with just the cutscenes and hints she would give, really made me appreciate her character development. Not only that, but she was the first side kick that actually seemed to be a character with depth. Navi had no depth at all, and Tatl was nowhere near as close. All the King of Red Lions managed to do was scream "Haaaaaaay", and he was the freaking king of Hyrule with no depth at all.
So yeah, I love Midna. Really added to TP for me.
Spreeze
10-12-2009, 07:04 PM
Yes! I loved Midna.
As others said before me, she had so much personality. Definately a well-thought-out character with an interesting background. What I loved the most was her changing relationship with Link. She seemed, as Ver-Go-A-Go-Go said, less 'annoyed' with Link as the game progressed, showing the growing bond between the two.
I kinda repeated what everyone said, but I suppose great minds think alike, eh?
:D
Alex_Da_Great
10-13-2009, 06:26 AM
Midna is the best sidekick in the whole series! Not annoying and actually helpful! And a great thing was that she impacted alot in the story. I like her personality also!
Too bad you couldn't do anything with Midna's true form as it came so late into the game! :(
ottobot
10-18-2009, 01:17 PM
i dont like minda. her role was waaaaaaaaaaay to big for a partner. she took over the game. :) :zelda: :ganondorf: are the main charicters in zelda.
fredthehylian
10-24-2009, 09:42 AM
I don't like her. She just creeped me out with her joker smile and laugh. Not to mention, the internet's glossing over her has ruined her completely. And the way she sat on you is just... wrong.
ForestSheikah
10-25-2009, 12:55 PM
Midna actually had personality. It was refreshing after playing Ocarina of Time, because Navi's kind of flat and very annoying.
ottobot
10-25-2009, 03:54 PM
Midna actually had personality. It was refreshing after playing Ocarina of Time, because Navi's kind of flat and very annoying.
thats actually what i don't like about her. helpers a supposed to be there to point stuff out, not tell you there life story. not to mention the fact that for the first half of thegame she was just plain bossy
Miss Moonlight
10-25-2009, 05:24 PM
She's actually more helpful than navi ever was.
Did navi help you leap over cliffs (as a wolf?) I think not!
Link428
10-27-2009, 03:45 PM
I liked midna but i prefer the fairy lol. I know thats a shocker
Dirty Link
12-21-2009, 01:20 AM
my boy is playing twilight princess for the first time as ive been trying to get him to play zelda for awhile and he chose twilight princess cause i would let him borrow it as opposed to buying it. He asked me about the characters and i didnt want to be bias so i sent him a link giving detailed explanations of them. He just beat the lakebed temple and texted me asking why i didnt warn him midna sucked so much. I couldnt agree w/this more if i tried. She needed to be a lot less involved in the game. Im sorry i didnt care about her, her people, or anything she had to say. She never had anything important to say really she just stated the obvious, like navi did, just sans the "hey listen". Also the romantic feeling was beyond weird and turned me off a lot. If she makes a return in zelda wii, i would still play the game as its literally the only reason i have yet to sell my wii, but i would probably do it very reluctantly because of her.
Durion
12-21-2009, 08:04 AM
my boy is playing twilight princess for the first time as ive been trying to get him to play zelda for awhile and he chose twilight princess cause i would let him borrow it as opposed to buying it. He asked me about the characters and i didnt want to be bias so i sent him a link giving detailed explanations of them. He just beat the lakebed temple and texted me asking why i didnt warn him midna sucked so much. I couldnt agree w/this more if i tried. She needed to be a lot less involved in the game. Im sorry i didnt care about her, her people, or anything she had to say. She never had anything important to say really she just stated the obvious, like navi did, just sans the "hey listen". Also the romantic feeling was beyond weird and turned me off a lot. If she makes a return in zelda wii, i would still play the game as its literally the only reason i have yet to sell my wii, but i would probably do it very reluctantly because of her.
Firstly, I'd just like to say that in my opinion, that Midna didn't always state the obvious, Half the time her input was actually useful for when I was playing the game. Navi actually tells you how to open a door incase in 10-12 years that he had been alive that he had never opened a door or at least figured out how to.
I'd also like to state that without Midna being a major part of the game, Twilight Princess as a whole would have never happened considering it's her orders that make Link go through all he dungeons, fighting your way through the Twilight Palace and eventually fighting Ganon at the end.
I thought that Link had a connection as friends but I don't think that in anyway did they look at each other as sexual partners :S :shake:
Petman1325
12-21-2009, 08:32 AM
I actually found her to be quite an important character that was actually much more involved with the plot than Navi was. I disagree with the whole "State the obvious" thing, considering the Twilight Realm or Zant's ruling was not obvious at all. In fact, nobody knew about it until TP. Plus, her character development and involvement with the plot crescendoed throughout the course of the game, with her first using you to save the Twilight Realm, then she decides to save you both. Navi was for Hyrule, and just felt like annoying the crap out of Link. In fact, the only obvious thing Midna said was "Look for a weak point!" or something like that.
Now, when it comes to knowledge about Hyrule and its enemies, Navi definitely wins. Midna doesn't know many things about the creatures of Hyrule. So, when you're saying that Midna doesn't know squat, you better just be talking about Hyrule. She knows a lot of things. In fact, if the game was longer, she could've ranted for an hour if she wanted to. But, of course, we learned everything we needed to know so that way we could work on the fanfiction that I don't write. I actually thought she was perhaps one of the best partners in the series. Now, for a bad partner, that would have to be Celia. She stated the obvious! ;)
Shadsie
12-21-2009, 08:37 AM
I thought I'd replied to this thread already? Maybe I just took the poll.
I adore Midna.
Now, the first time I played the game, I did find her a little annoying at first. My guy (who watched me play) and I nicknamed her "Paperclip" after the Microsoft Office Assistant because sometimes she'd pop up to "help" when I didn't want her to... This was before I got a chance to play OoT for the first time and meet Navi. We call our Garmin unit "Navi" and joke about putting it into a bottle and shaking it whenever it misdirects us while driving. Anyway... back to Midna...after a while, the little wart grew on me.
Midna: Who ya callin' a wart?!!!
Through the latter half of the game, heck, probably just around the Lakebed Temple - I got to liking her and she prooved herself to be a real character. Most of the partners are only there when you need them, as tools... Nintendo gave Midna a backstory and a whole people and some strong motivation. I'm playing TP for the third time now... for me, Midna grew from being a "paperclip" to one of my favorite characters in the entire series.
And yes, I'm one of those crazy people who ships Link x Midna. However, I don't like the idea of them doing anything actually strongly sexual while she's still in imp form. But, I'm the kind of person who doesn't see romantic relationships as being all about sex (or even necessarily leading there). Love isn't always physical.
linktothefuture
12-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Minda was a pretty good character. she is not my favoriat companion though. I really liked ezlo at first but even he got a little annoying. (pauses to think) Never mind, minda is the best companion
ironknuckle1
12-21-2009, 12:07 PM
well i think that midna did state the obvious and that she never gave you any help unlike navi or tatl who gave you help with enemies and on where to go. but i still like her as a character. i just felt that she was more of a main character then a sidekick
Midna666
12-21-2009, 12:24 PM
well i think that midna did state the obvious and that she never gave you any help unlike navi or tatl who gave you help with enemies and on where to go. but i still like her as a character. i just felt that she was more of a main character then a sidekick
You're right Midna is a main character in Twilight Princess's story. After all she is the Twilight Princess.
I know that some people feel that she stole the spotlight from Zelda, and I know that Zelda's an important character, but I think that it was nice to have another Princess character besides Zelda for a change.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2009, 05:10 PM
You're right Midna is a main character in Twilight Princess's story. After all she is the Twilight Princess.
I know that some people feel that she stole the spotlight from Zelda, and I know that Zelda's an important character, but I think that it was nice to have another Princess character besides Zelda for a change.
This is true. Everyone always says that LA was excellent because it gave us a break from Zelda and gave us a new main female character (Marin), and I agree with this. Just like MM, it's always great to have that one game once in a while that just kind of breaks away from the rest and does something different. Same goes for characters. I'm surprised more people weren't happy that we got an in-depth character that was separate from the main three. However, I do hope that Zelda Wii will follow in ST's "tracks" (Pun intended) and keep Zelda around as a main character.
Nepolink
12-24-2009, 01:19 PM
I love Midna, she become also one of my favorites, finally a person with you with a great back story, so not like Navi/Tatl only to help you or tell you where to go. I also like her just because her look and her great sarcasm, i thought in the beginning she was a bad something, or someone who thought Link was a weakling, i'm glad she liked Link after all his hard work. I never thought she was the Twilight Princess... i was always wondering why the titles was named Twilght Princess, no i never searched for it, it was just Midna.
She added a great story to the game, not only the gameplay is important, a nice story about a character will give them also a good reputation. I enjoyed her whole story and enjoyed to read them.
I don't dislike or like Midna. To me, Midna seemed like a great character- she was smart, insightful, rude, nice, and basically any other emotion you could think of, but she never really stuck out to me as much as she did to a lot of people online, apparently. I liked her a lot more than Elzo and the King of Red Lions, but the only reason I liked Navi and Tatl more than her was because I love how the fairies look :3 which is nothing personal. Midna did have the most backstory and depth of any of the sidekicks in the Zelda universe and a LOT more personality and attitude, so I will admit she is a very good character as far as Zelda games go. I wouldn't say she had more backstory than any other Zelda character at all... I would say Zelda has slightly more of a backstory, Ganon, and the Sages, in total, have just as much backstory, but that's in total.
All in all, I'm neutral when it comes to liking Midna. I've seen many mixed results of TP over the years. I've seen people who hated it (of which I was close to being, no offense) but if there's one thing I've seen consistent is peoples' love of Midna. I'd like to see her in another game, but it's not something that would make me sad if she wasn't, though I'm pretty sure they'll put her in the next Zelda game from the looks of things.
link9
12-24-2009, 02:05 PM
I liked her, she was a really cool character who really helped the overalll gameplay. She brought a new aspect to the game that i liked greatly.
Bigelover88
02-27-2010, 10:32 PM
In the beginning she was very snappy and a bit rude and I almost believed she was evil but she was helping wolf Link so I knew she would be the sidekick. But her sarcastic words often make me laugh. And later in the Game (after the Lakebed Temple) she started to change and I completely love her. I'm not the kind of person who gets attached to a character (except for Link) so in a new Game I am not waiting for a character to return. Heck, I'm way too happy to play the new game!! But I really adore and love Midna. If she would return it would be great, but if she doesn't....well, so it will be. The Game is about Link and Zelda and not about the sidekicks. But from time to time you seriously love a sidekick ;)
Meego
02-28-2010, 06:58 AM
yeah, minda is great, flirty and fun and it addds fun to the game!
I prefered Navi and Tatl.
I generally dislike Midna.
The thing is that she is just so boy-ish the whole way through the game which I guess can be good seeing as it's a change. But, I prefered it when you had fairies which acted more like a serious friend than someone who's using you to get hold of the Fused Shadow.
JosephII
03-03-2010, 02:11 AM
I would say that I liked her. I liked her character development and overall importance to the story. I wish there was more to the game than just her. I also think if they brought her back anytime soon it would probably ruin her. Too much of a good thing is what it would be. It would be like a movie with a bad sequel that didn't need one in the first place.
athenian200
03-03-2010, 09:57 AM
I didn't care much for Midna because it almost felt like she was controlling the game, and doing all my thinking for me. Also, I didn't trust her and kept waiting for her to betray me. I mean, Nintendo has been training me since the first game to realize that things which live in the shadows are usually evil, and that a descendent of an evil race is usually evil. Now I'm supposed to trust this creepy shadow girl descended from an evil race, who seems quite cunning and capable of manipulating me? Are they nuts? I actually expected her to be Dark Link in disguise... really.
I personally feel like TP had good gameplay, bosses, and dungeons, but a lackluster story compared to OoT. That's probably because I didn't trust Midna at all, and that probably ruined the story for me. It's like they tried to create one deep character and several shallow/faceless characters, rather than several medium characters. Which means the game will not be much fun for you if you don't happen to trust or like that character. The whole game ended up having the kind of depressing/dark/heavy feeling for me that I only got in the Shadow Temple in OoT.
The Link character in this game comes across as "hokey," being a rancher that comes from a large village, who can be bossed around by his crazy girlfriend that cares more about animals than people. That destroys the whole orphan/loner vibe I'm used to getting from Link. It's actually kind of funny, though... first he gets bossed around by Ilia, then he gets bossed around by Midna. Link gets bossed around by strange women the whole game... I wonder if that's supposed to be symbolic of the three Goddesses concept? Huh.
JosephII
03-03-2010, 01:49 PM
I think that was just those characters personalities, which I didn't mind. I too did not find the story to be worth much though, but I didn't have a problem with those characters being bossy. You always encounter bossy characters in the games. I guess the difference was that Midna was around for the whole game. But like I have said before, I never get bothered by a characters personality. I actually find it more interesting when some of them have extreme personality traits. I never trusted Midna myself until the end of the game.
Skull Kid
03-06-2010, 12:44 AM
Ok i loved Midna she was a great character!! I feel as though she was in the game a lot more like she had a very important role. Not like Navi that really didnt have one all the fairy was a guide. :( So Midna has my vote and i think they should bring her back some how in the next zelda game! :)
Bigelover88
03-06-2010, 11:01 AM
In the beginning Midna only cared about how to get back to her own world but she changed after Zelda healed her and when she realized how much evil Zandt had done to both worlds. Link and Zelda selfless actions changed her into a very different person. I never had a problem with the girls being bossy. Ilia wasn't bossy at all. She was just crazy about Epona and cared for her. If you watch the scene closely when Ilia is angry at Link you see Link and Bo looking at each other and almost burst into laughter. So I don't think Link is "hokey" at all. And when Midna and Link first meet he was a wolf. He was imprisoned so what would you expect? Here is this strange imp offering you to help even if you don't want her to but you have no other choice. Somehow Link knew the only person who could help him was Midna.
HaLink
04-03-2010, 10:58 AM
Yeah, I like Midna a lot!
Great help for Link!
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2009/12/Decade%20Features/Best%20new%20characters/Finished/bestnew_midna2--article_image.jpg
http://www.ultimonivel.net/PremiosOn/PremiosConsola/MejorPersonajeFemenino/Midna.png
Midna is very cute and funny!
Random Person
04-03-2010, 11:17 AM
As a character, yes she was a good idea. They really did justice on her personality. However, personally I didn't like her until she obtained Zelda's wisdom. She was a spoiled brat up until that moment in time.
TheSerpent
04-03-2010, 03:08 PM
She's actually more helpful than navi ever was.
Did navi help you leap over cliffs (as a wolf?) I think not!
Did Midna give you great information on every single enemy that you come across? I think not.
I agree that she is the best, although I find her to be almost as annoying as people say Navi is. Don't you find that chuckle to get annoying?
43ForceGems
04-03-2010, 07:39 PM
I didn't think she was as good as Ezlo, but not as bad as Navi, and since there's no, "In the middle" choice on the poll, I can't vote.
Midna definately was supposed to be a step forward in companions, but I actually thought she was a small step back. I like the guy companions, but there's only been 1 over the years, they're all girls, and I don't like that. I also didn't like how she liked Link, it was too awkard. And she was too bossy. "Get the fused shadow." "Help me find the Mirror of Twilight." "Now go get the Mirror of Twilight." "Now kill Zant." "Now go save Zelda." That's one reason I didn't like the game in general, the whole thing was doing what Midna told you to. I also didn't like how at the beginning she made you think Zelda was the TP, when it was just selfish of her to not want you to know that it was her. O.o sorry for my wording there, I'm confused too.
Overall, I guess I'll go vote that she was a bad character.
PureLocke
04-16-2010, 12:34 AM
I liked the whole spunky, dangerous female character bit, there are too few in LoZ. The last one I remember is Nabooru. I assume Tetra was as well, though I didn't play that part of the series.
Ooccoo Watcher
04-17-2010, 06:20 PM
Midna was an incredible character. She was funny, and yet demanding in a playful way, like all the characters in the legend of zelda are.
:)
I don't like Midna at all, and I don't know how people find her funny.
Random Person
04-21-2010, 06:31 AM
I don't like Midna at all, and I don't know how people find her funny.
Someone with Zant as their profile picture would say that. I find it quite hilarious :).
Dark Princess
04-21-2010, 06:36 AM
Midna was by far one of my favourite characters in Twilight Princess. She may have been a helper like Navi and Tatl, but she had a big role in the game, which made the game pretty cool. :3
PrinceRalis
04-22-2010, 03:16 PM
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Sam/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.pngfile:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Sam/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.pngAt first I hated Midna because she was so ugly and flirty. But now, I don't really mind. Link would be dead without Midna. Plus, I love the fact that she killed Zant! I hated him so much! I mean, you did all three of those early temples, and then BAM! All your work is gone, and you have to save Midna! Also, she was totally wicked, when she broke down the barrier blocking Hyrule castle!
Master Makar
04-24-2010, 06:57 PM
I totally agree with Prince Ralis exept for the at first hating her. I just thought she was kinda wierd. At the end of TP, it was pretty awkward when Midna asked if Link thought that she was beutifal. She was still odd at a few other times,as in a lot of other times.
Seamus
04-24-2010, 07:04 PM
I think she was a good character. She had a lot to add to the story, a good partner,a nd she was pretty funny at some times :)
Ralis
04-26-2010, 05:13 PM
i liked midna in both forms. though my favorite of her forms, had to be her imp form. you just don't see her twilight princess form enough, so i couldnt tell if i liked her in that form or not.3579
98pika
05-09-2010, 01:50 PM
I like minda not navi because navi is very anoyying navi always when you don't press to controler stick up navi always says Hey Hey Hey Hey its anoyying LOL :)
Bigelover88
05-11-2010, 09:03 PM
In the beginning of the game Midna is very sarcastic and sometimes even annoys me when we have to collect the tears in Kakariko and she suddenly screams: if you're done with your errands we will go. But she always cracks me up as well even though I played the game so often now. And her change after Lakebed Temple always grabs me.
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