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Mases
08-20-2009, 12:36 PM
What were your thoughts of the Ball & Chain item found in Twilight Princess.
I remember when I first saw the mini-boss in the Snowpeak Ruins, it immediately brought back the nostalgia factor as I thought of the Ball and Chain Trooper from A Link to the Past. He was actually one of the more difficult mini-bosses for me the first time through and I actually died a few times. Nevertheless, I remember when I finally defeated him and saw the Ball & Chain there... I was pretty shocked but immediately thought it was awesome.
I liked using it, but like many of the items in Twilight Princess, it seemed underutilized. Granted, unlike the Dominion Rod or the Spinner, you COULD use it wherever you wanted and that was a plus. I thought it was a fun item to use and a great new addition to Link's inventory.
I also love how Link couldn't 'run' while having it out, but he just 'put' it away and it disappears into the rest of his inventory and then Link can run. That's classic Zelda right there, but I think it is most prevalent in this instance.
Skull_Kid
08-20-2009, 12:37 PM
I really loved this Item, when I first got it I was like: "Oh man, now we are reaaally talking".
And Link's expression while he was carrying it was priceless
Steve
08-20-2009, 12:41 PM
I liked it, and it was especially useful for armored enemies, but yeah I have to agree that it was a shame it was only used in Snowpeak Ruins.
Dark_Kokiri
08-20-2009, 12:46 PM
My first reaction to the Ball and Chain was, "....no way. I'VE GOTTA GO TRY THIS ON A GORON."
I liked it a lot, probably my favorite item in that game aside from the Spinner. Not only was it a great weapon, but it was highly entertaining to watch Link use it. My dad got a kick out of it, and he doesn't laugh at much. xD
Also...
I also love how Link couldn't 'run' while having it out, but he just 'put' it away and it disappears into the rest of his inventory and then Link can run. That's classic Zelda right there, but I think it is most prevalent in this instance.
I love that about Zelda games! Reminds me of this....
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/294/b/3/Treading_Water_by_Hail_NekoYasha.png
Classic stuff right there. xD
Kazumi
08-20-2009, 12:47 PM
I too thought of the Ball and Chain Trooper when I first saw him. This mini-boss was actually pretty tough. This is where I used my Great Fairy's Tears that Jovani gives you. But when I did beat him, I was shocked that Link would get such an epic item as the Ball and Chain. I found it quite useful for some enemies. Such as.. Ice enemies... Oh wait, those are only in Snowpeak. *Facepalm* But still, it was fun to use at least.
But I really think that the Ball and Chain is a one time thing. I hope they don't include it in the next Zelda, as that would ruin the whole Ball and Chain experience. It just seems like a TP only item. One that falls into the category of the Spinner and Dominion Rod.
Durion
08-20-2009, 07:42 PM
I thought the Ball & Chain was a great weapon, It was so useful against the ReDead's inside the Cave of Ordeals. It was also the only Item that you got a after The Lakebed Temple that was actually of any use anywhere outside its own dungeon. All the other items gained after that point require a certain element so that you could use it.
It was also for blocking arrows when you had it out, I remember swinging it around at an angle above my head so that it blocked any arrows.
I have always found it quiet funny how Link could be weighed down by any item the the heolds or wears......yet he puts in his Bag of Illogical tardis......Everything was way bigger than that bag yet it always fit in well and then its special Anti-Gravity properties took away the weight :xd:....
basement24
08-20-2009, 09:06 PM
Obtaining it was a great battle in close squarters. I really enjoyed the fact that it was obtained from a fallen enemy as opposed to just picking it out of the item chest of the dungeon.
I really liked it's addition to Link's arsenal, but I wish it was a bit easier to use in combat. I often tried to use it in the Cave of Ordeals against all the Chillfos, but I was often hit before I could get it swinging around. It was great to use against small swarming enemies though if aimed towards the ground.
Regardless, the power behind it felt great, and the image of Link heaving it around with great difficulty was classic. It really did need more uses, as most TP items did, and I think quicker use in combat would have helped out a bit more.
I'd like to see it return in future installments if they could think of some other ways to use it effectively.
Midna666
08-21-2009, 04:09 AM
The Ball & Chain is my favorite weapon in Twilight Princess.
Once I got it, I tried to use it everywhere I could, I ended up using it more then I used the sword(even if it was not always a good idea).
I'd love to see the Ball & Chain return in a future Zelda game.
ShellShocker
08-21-2009, 04:19 AM
The Ball & Chain was an awesome weapon. I loved just grabbing it and smashing up the biggest of enemies. A really cool weapon. The mini-boss that held it wasn't quite hard for me, since I just used the Clawshot to get behind him and then get in as much attacks as I possible could. I'd also try to time my attacks with him perfectly so he couldn't hurt me.
I really hope the Ball & Chain weapon returns in another game. It was pretty cool how Link could swing the Ball and Chain around his head for as long as he wanted, and he could throw it pretty far, but it looked as if he was struggling when he was normally carrying it around. And Dark Kokiri, that image is awesome. It is weird in games how you can wear/hold something heavy, but put it in your inventory, and it's immediately light-weight.
Nepolink
08-21-2009, 11:49 AM
One of my favorite weapon! The mini-Boss was not difficult so long you use the Clawshot.
Like the Spiner it was a brand new weapon for the Zelda series. Always the Boomerang, Bow and Arrows or Hamer... The most basic Zelda items.
I hope it will come back too, it is so nice swinging around with it. We have to wait till 2010 for the new Zelda.
The DSM
08-21-2009, 12:18 PM
I didnt really like the ball and chain, I didnt like the slow movment and it had no use except for the boss and ice blocks to me.
Dark_Kokiri
08-21-2009, 03:20 PM
And Dark Kokiri, that image is awesome. It is weird in games how you can wear/hold something heavy, but put it in your inventory, and it's immediately light-weight.
Funniest part is that Zelda is basically known for this kind of thing, I love that about this game series. :clap:
I would love to see the Ball and Chain return, but... I wouldn't want to see it in just any Zelda game, I'd like to see it stay within the Twilight Princess series. That is, if it even has a squeal or ever gets one. Keep it in the realistic Zelda, Ball and Chain doesn't seem like a Wind Waker Link item to me~
Master Kokiri 9
08-21-2009, 07:25 PM
Personally i think that the mace (thats what i call the ball and chain) really is a quite EPIC item and if you notice tp doesn't have the hammer unlike many other zelda games and really it fills the hammers spot in links equip item screen as the most hard-hitting item in the game.
Think of this post what you will.:)
Vash03
08-23-2009, 08:28 AM
Like Mases, the first thing I thought of was A Link to the Past, in the castle right before you save Zelda. When I was a kid that guy was hard for me and I think I died a few times, and again when I played TP for the first time, I didn't use guides because it takes all the fun.. and I had no clue how to beat him.. and he killed me, once if not twice. But the ball and chain item, getting to use it... It was okay, I don't understand how he can swing it if he can barely walk with it... but who cares? It's a massive spiked ball with a chain, it destoys things.
PimPSlaP
08-23-2009, 02:23 PM
The ball and chain was pretty sweet, but it just felt like a replacement of Link's ever classic hammer.
Zarom
08-23-2009, 11:09 PM
The Ball and Chain. I think it was just an awesome item. Not very useful outside the dungeon tough, except on monsters. It was such a great item. When I first killed that naughty ball and chain trooper-like, and that he left the item on the ground, I was like: Wait, are we really gonna have THIS item? I had so much joy. I used it many times and in many ways. In fact, it was a really cool item that replaced the hammer. :cool:
Yes. The Ball and Chain was one of the great items in this game and others that never really got much attention, but I guess that was due in the beginning, because what else could you use it for other than break ice? It got a lot of attention in the dungeon it came from, and I wouldn't expect any more.
Zarom
08-23-2009, 11:46 PM
Yeah. It was a relly cool item that replaced the hammer. When I had first after beating that damn mini-boss, I was like: No. Are we really gonna use this thing?!? Then I picked it up and tried it in a lot of ways.
It is clearly one of the greatest items in the Zelda series. It was unique and innovative. Really like it. :)
Sorry! Double Post! I tought my other had not been sent!
Twilight Prince
09-12-2009, 11:37 AM
I really liked it, but I never really found a use for it outside of the snow palace, and in the snow palace all I used it for was smashing them suits of armor, and fighting the boss. I liked the weapon a lot, but I wish it had more of a use in the game then what it actually did something more, or was needed in more then one temple...
Baysiderulez
09-17-2009, 01:17 AM
This item alone warrents playing TP over again. Like many of you I had a hard time defeating the miniboss, my reasoning being the lack of space to manuever around him. When he was defeated though, and the ball and chain remained... I recall screaming for my brother and was like... NO WAY!
I recall using it throughout the game afterwards, especially if I got fustrated with an area and need to vent some steam. fun times...
Link Master
10-17-2009, 10:48 AM
Well I do admit the ball and chain was a nice addition but however I only used it in the snowpeak temple and I thought the best was the bow and arrow. However the ball and chain can stop you from slipping on the ice and was used to defeat things like freezards and chillfos.
Jetter
11-12-2009, 10:58 AM
I thought the ball and chain was great. It looked like link would never be beat. There were a couple problems too. When your fight those tall spear throwing ice guys in that chapel-like room it's hard to use ball and chain,but I ended up using bombs and mostly cornering them. Then there is this kind of annoying part in Hyrule Castle where you have to through your ball and chain on the blocks to see which one is fake.
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