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Dungeon killer
07-20-2009, 09:30 AM
Which fairy is more helpful Navi or Tatl? I say Navi.
Shnappy
07-20-2009, 02:09 PM
This section would probably work better in the 64-Bit Zelda (http://www.zeldadungeon.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27) section. General Discussion is for non-Zelda related topics.
Vash03
07-20-2009, 02:49 PM
Well, untill it gets moved I'd have to say Navi.. I hated Tatl. She was annoying and only caused problems from the beginning. They were both annoying, but at least with Navi she started out on your side.
MalonMaverick11
07-20-2009, 06:32 PM
Everybody bad-mouths Navi, but i have always liked Navi! All u people need to quit hating on Navi! Navi is ur first fairy friend in 3D! Be Nice!:fairy:
Midna666
07-20-2009, 07:51 PM
I like Tatl better, but I do have to say that Navi was more helpful.
And that is part of why I don't like Navi.
She's too helpful especially in the first dungeon(inside the Deku Tree)with helpful lines like "press A to open the door".
I guess she's ok if you are new to playing 3-D video games, but Navi should have had a off button.
So to answer the question, yes Navi is the more helpful fairy, she's just too helpful.
Deku Scrub
07-20-2009, 09:50 PM
Until I got Majora's Mask, I never realized how great Navi was, no matter how annoying. Tatl's kinda mean, seeing as whenever you try to analyze an enemy, she just says something like "You don't know about the ____?!"
Tatl just nags way too much. D:
Chrono
07-20-2009, 10:14 PM
At least Tatl didn't wuss out on you and leave the battle like Navi did when fighting Ganondorf.
Deku Scrub
07-20-2009, 10:21 PM
At least Tatl didn't wuss out on you and leave the battle like Navi did when fighting Ganondorf.
That's a good point. I still think Navi's better. Once you get past all the incredibly obvious lectures she gives you, you start to appreciate her a bit more.
MalonMaverick11
07-21-2009, 12:04 AM
i'm sorry someone didn't like my post, but that person needs to read the other posts on this page, they'll probably be upset.
mario
07-24-2009, 11:49 AM
Have to agree with the Navi camp. Tatl often didn't tell you how to defeat an enemy, expecting that you already knew from playing Ocarina of Time. Not that we should depend on in-game hints, but Navi was nice to have around when one needed a clue about how to proceed.
Shadow Wolfo
07-24-2009, 04:42 PM
Tatl is my faviorite. But the most helpful is Navi. She actually gives more description about each monster Tatl only a few. Though Navi is really annoying. :fairy:
jamalthegiraffe
07-24-2009, 05:05 PM
Over all I thought that Navi was more helpful than Tatl. She gave good desciptions of every enemy(like Shadow Wolfo said). Tatl would only say stuff like "I don't know everything." Navi was sort of annoying though.
I accualy liked Tatl better that Navi, however. She had a lot more personality than Navi, just like most of the charaters in Majora's Mask.
x-Link-x
07-24-2009, 06:14 PM
At least Tatl didn't wuss out on you and leave the battle like Navi did when fighting Ganondorf.
I wouldn't say 'wuss' out, after all, its not that she didn't want to help you, or that she was scared, apparently the evil aura coming from Ganondorf was too strong for her to withstand, that's not really on her choice. She just couldn't get close, not to mention that in the next battle she says that this time she's not letting you fight alone.
Anyways, which one was more helpful? I'd say Navi only because she gave you the information right away. In other of preference, I liked Talt better only because she really had a personality, Navi barely had any personality in her.
Immortal_One
07-24-2009, 09:26 PM
Navi by a long shot
She didn't try to kill Link and then ask for his help and STILL act like a jerk to Link. Sure, Navi said "HEY LISTEN" a lot, but I got used to it and it didn't bother me.
Waker of winds
07-24-2009, 09:34 PM
^ Me too.
Navi didn't bother me at all. I found her quite useful several times. Also Tatl, but again, she was a little more...rude. A lot of people here find Navi and/or Tatl annoying, but they remember that they were in the game to help new players.
shadowlink626
07-24-2009, 09:36 PM
i like navi because she wasnt the one who started the trouble in the begining of the game. tatl was annoying to.
Zarom
08-24-2009, 03:46 AM
Tatl has more personnlity than Navi. :fairy: And the icon of Tatl flashes more often then the Navi icon. So, she was more helpful. Navi was like only telling the basic stuff, like to press ''A'' to open a door, etc. :fairy:
Durion
08-26-2009, 05:34 AM
Tatl does have more attitude and personality than Navi but that doesn't make her more helpful in any way. Just more interesting, Also I didn't really need any off of Tatl for enemies seeing as most of then are similar to that of OoT's enemies.
Although Navi, at first, is very very annoying when she forces you to listen to her so that you can learn how to climb a ladder, vines and how to open doors...gets more useful later on when she shuts up and gives you the option to get her help when you need it, Also seeing as OoT was the first Zelda of its type it was needed unlike MM (unless you played that first)...
Nepolink
08-26-2009, 05:48 AM
Navi was more helpful. Tatl was only there to annoy you with her big month while Navi learned you the basic's. Oke, she is annoying when you play the game for the 10th time. Like above said Tatl has more attitude but that don't make her a helpful fairy. It's Navi for me, i liked Tatl's story with Skull Kid and Teal, even she only speaks when you beat a temple and in the beginning. Tatl is more a part from the story than a helpful someone.
Navi helped you out the most. This threat is about the most helpful fairy so i choose Navi.
SuperSilly
08-26-2009, 04:22 PM
I found Tatl to be more helpful than Navi.
I remember on my first playthrough of OoT, Navi wasn't helpful at all. The only time I was greatful she told me anything was when she warned me of wallmasters in a room, but she only needed to warn me once, not every time I re-entered the room!
On my first playthrough of MM however, I found myself a little more greatful of Tatl. I liked her attitude, and I actually needed her help more often than Navi, like during the boss fight with Igos Do Ilkana, I needed a hint from her because I had no idea what to do.
Personality wise, I wasn't terribly annoyed by Navi or Tatl, and I thought Tatl's attitude made her seem more realistic. On the other hand, I feel as though i'm talking to an over-protective parent when i'm talking to Navi. :fairy:
Alex_Da_Great
10-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Both of them are annoying but if I had to choose... MIDNA! Fine then... Navi. Because she is more helpful and less obnoxious but sometimes she could shut up! (Every 5 minutes... "Hey!" you click on her, "I wonder what Saria is doing in the woods..." Just shut up! :P)
09MurphyM
04-29-2010, 09:50 PM
I've played Ocarina of time several times, and I always rely on navi to tell me about enemy and boss weaknesses
bbevington90
04-29-2010, 10:02 PM
Navi is way better, she was really loyal to Link, and definitely cared about Link too. I actually hate Tatl, she's just too... 8 years old for me. She annoys me is all. I also get the feeling that since Link doesn't really have a personality (which I like, the silent hero thing is awesome) Nintendo decided to give the companion a personality, which is OK, I just didn't like Tatl's personality, and I prefer the loyal sidekick/guide thing that Navi has going on. The thing I always look back on is the fights against Ganondorf/Ganon; she was really upset that she couldn't help you when you fought Ganondorf, and when the Ganon fight came along, you could tell she was thrilled to help.
DayDreamer
04-29-2010, 10:56 PM
Navi is all right,though my favorite side kick ezlo we are talking about fairys so yes I do think navi is better.
I found tatl and tale abit less exciting even though they were a bigger part in the MM story than Navi was in Oot.
Something about navi was neat I dont know,Maybe their wasnt and i just found tatl to be to much of a jerk.
Now if we were talking about the manga than I would say Felicia but were not....
MetaPwn
04-29-2010, 11:03 PM
i think tale was the most helpful of all, his couple of lines helped the gamees know to go to 'mountain, forest, ocean, caynon'
ottobot
05-01-2010, 10:50 AM
i am pretty much in the middle. i'm going to go with tatl because tatl is slightly less likely to make you want to commit suicide. people who make you want to commit suicide are usually not considered "helpful."
Epwna
05-01-2010, 11:30 AM
I like Tatl better in every way. She is way more helpful and less annoying than Navi.
Nye Pendragon
05-01-2010, 07:11 PM
Navi was a nice, annoying little fairy that may have stated the obvious, but at least she wasn't a complete jerk like Tatl.
Tatl hurt my feelings as a kid playing Majora's Mask... :C
Xixor
05-03-2010, 07:29 PM
I actually found them equally helpful. Their basically the same thing. I just liked Tatl cuz she had a personality. She actually had a story behind her. I know you might argue, but I just liked Tatl a lot more, especially when you went to fight Majora on the night of the 3rd day, the different things she said to Tael as the story progressed. I just like how Tatl traveled with you thru time.
bigflyingpotato
08-01-2010, 12:59 PM
I never hated either of them. I actually found Navi's voice kind of a cute addition, one of the closest Legend of Zelda ever got to voice acting. Tatl was all right, she didn't stop you so often and she was actually a bit related to the plot, I just didn't like when you'd ask about an enemy and she would say something like "hey, don't ask me!"
Some people complain about her being rude, I like a partner with personality, that's why I loved Ezlo and Midna for the first half of Twilight Princess.
Chilfo Freeze
08-01-2010, 01:16 PM
Well, Navi is definitely more helpful. She always had her annoying shouts of direction and information. Tatl had more along the lines of hints.
Ember Incubus
08-01-2010, 01:18 PM
Navi was way more helpful and not a freakish jerk like Tatl, IMO. I rather a character have no personality than a rude one. And yes, Navi does have a good personality and Tatl is rude, IMO.
Hero of Winds
08-01-2010, 01:32 PM
I prefer Navi. I never found her annoying and she was much more helpful than Tatl. Also Tatl started out as Link's enemy. The only reason she joined Link was because she needed his help to find the Skull Kid.
PhantomTriforce
08-01-2010, 01:35 PM
I found Navi and Tatl to be quite similar, but I went with Tatl. Tatl spoilt parts of the game much less than Navi did.
Kybyrian
08-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Well, in terms of helpfulness, Navi was definitely the more helpful fairy, but I didn't enjoy Navi. Tatl had a lot more personality than Navi and was a lot more enjoyable to have in the game, whereas Navi was helpful in the first playthrough but then just got annoying, and was never really a good thing in the game, aside from that one time helpfulness, of course. They could have improved on Navi a lot to make her my favorite, but oh well.
tetrafan
08-01-2010, 09:43 PM
I like tatl better but i agree navi is more helpful. navi was held back by ganondorfs magic thats why she didn't help in the battle.
I went for Tatl simply for the fact that she was easier to ignore than Navi.
Navi really annoyed me but she would rather constantly at times do her little call out until you spoke to her. Tatl just seemed to do it once and then flash, she either did that or I really did completely just put her chime down to background noise.
I was never a fan of hint systems though. If I want to be stuck for hours on what to do then i'll be stuck for hours with no clue.
Random Person
08-01-2010, 09:55 PM
I've always liked Navi. She was a sidekick, not a hypocrite who bosses you around. And the word "Hey, listen" are actually pretty important words in my life. Usually I prefer a lot of things in MM than OoT, but Tatl is not one of them.
Ember Incubus
08-01-2010, 10:04 PM
Wow, it is like for every new Tatl vote, three Navis come in. You forumers do not hate Navi as much as you say you do! =D
MarioBr1
08-01-2010, 10:09 PM
Neither, I liked "Pntr" better
Next to the number 8, thats Pntr (Pntr = Pointer, LMAO!!)
6094
She was quiet :)
I'm joking, I prefer Tatl, but I don't hate Navi or find her annoying :p
Ember Incubus
08-01-2010, 10:16 PM
Pntr, that sounds cool, but is that a Canon or Fanon name? The only fairy I hate that is not Tatl is Ceilie. Bleg!
wideyedwanderer
08-14-2010, 10:47 PM
Navi was always there for me when I needed her... I didn't find her too annoying. Navi was a loyal friend to Link, enough to make him go out to a strange and distant land in search of her.
TNinja
08-15-2010, 12:12 AM
i like both a lot, but i'm gonna have to go with navi
The Skull Kid
08-28-2010, 10:13 AM
tatl...i dont know why but i found her more helpful
Erebea
08-28-2010, 10:28 AM
I went for Tatl simply for the fact that she was easier to ignore than Navi.
Navi really annoyed me but she would rather constantly at times do her little call out until you spoke to her. Tatl just seemed to do it once and then flash, she either did that or I really did completely just put her chime down to background noise.
I was never a fan of hint systems though. If I want to be stuck for hours on what to do then i'll be stuck for hours with no clue.
With all due respect, this is a poll about who is more HELPFUL, not who is less annoying or who is easier to ignore.
I choose Navi.
I went for Tatl simply for the fact that she was easier to ignore than Navi.
Navi really annoyed me but she would rather constantly at times do her little call out until you spoke to her. Tatl just seemed to do it once and then flash, she either did that or I really did completely just put her chime down to background noise.
I was never a fan of hint systems though. If I want to be stuck for hours on what to do then i'll be stuck for hours with no clue.
With all due respect, this is a poll about who is more HELPFUL, not who is less annoying or who is easier to ignore.
I choose Navi.
VembersWind
08-28-2010, 10:31 AM
i've always hated tatl. she acted like she was an important character when she had little relevance to the plot. navi was way more useful, especially when she told me which temple to go to next. i also hated the way she talked when she told you about the monster like "don't tell me you don't know about the dodongo!?" navi may have stopped the gameplay in Oot at times, but at least she told you something useful.
Epona
08-28-2010, 01:53 PM
I like Navi. Tatl's just mean.
Majora16
08-28-2010, 04:54 PM
If you're asking who was the most helpful, I'd have to go with Navi. She gives you more tips and is a better guide, BUT she can be a little over the top. She is pretty much Captain Obvious. This is not necessarily a terrible thing, but it often becomes annoying listening to her rants about how a door is locked. Tatl often said that she "Didn't know everything!" whenever you wanted advice or strategies though, so she wasn't any better. I usually don't use my fairies anyways.
If you're asking who is a better character, I would definitely say Tatl. Navi seems to be nothing more than a guide. She has about the same amount of personality as a stick and is OoT's equivalent to Pokemon's Pokedex. She doesn't really add anything to the game other than hints. Tatl, on the other hand, was a dynamic character with a more developed personality. She can often be rude and stubborn, but sometimes she is more forgiving. She changes over time.
So, in summary.. Navi is a better guide and Tatl is a better character.
ComposerBrother
08-28-2010, 05:00 PM
I would have to say... Both!!!
Navi, she's never annoying, never sassy, and is a wonderful character in the game for that kindness.
Tatl, she's just like a mix between midna and navi. Acts like she does favors on a whim, but gives out useful information.
wherestheblanke
08-28-2010, 06:53 PM
I'll always love Navi, but Tatl was less annoying, I mean, yea Navi was always there for you, but Tatl was less there, only when you needed help was it provided, not the constant, "HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!" "SHUT UP NAVI I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW!!!!!!!! I JUST WANT TO GET THIS HEART PIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And suprisingly as a child I felt like I was forced to follow Navi's orders otherwise something bad would happen to me... i know its freaky but ya!
blubb
08-28-2010, 08:03 PM
I liked Tatl more, because she had more personality and character development (somehow like Midna, in the beginning brat-like and then developing, while Navi was always the same and we didn't get much information about her personality). Plus she didn't always annoy you with "Hey, Listen!" when you were doing a sidequest, so yeah, definitely Tatl!
Zarom
08-28-2010, 09:15 PM
I don't remember if I've posted in this thread or not, and I'm too lazy to check, but anyway.
The most helpful fairy for me has always been Tatl. I never found Navi to be really helpful, you know, she just explains all the basic stuff everyone knows and the worst thing is that we can't skip what she says. Tatl had more attitude and I think that overall, she was more helpful than Navi.
Algalord
08-29-2010, 01:43 AM
I always wondered what I'd be like to have a Navi-powered navigation system in my car.
"HEY! LOOK! LISTEN! WATCH OUT! LISTEN! HEY! HEY! HEY! LOOK! LISTEN! HEY!"
OotLord1003
08-29-2010, 01:55 AM
I liked tatl, tatl was an AMAZINNG character who progressed through the game acting towards being your friend than an enemy. She did have a sweet heart, but she was blinded with the evil of majora at the begining of the game.
I felt that she had more DEPTH than navi, navi had NOTHING to do with the plot line, and she was quite annoying. Where a Tatl was MOST of the plot, and her hints made me laugh! "Oh comon! it's just a boe! (or whatever that enemy was) just don't be scared an attack it!
Also, I liked her "Ding-a-ling-a-lig!" better than " HAY!!! LISTEN!!!!! WATCH OUT!!!! LOOK!!!!"
So over all, tat; was much more of a fun character than navi. '
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