Gorons Extinct?

[Axle the Beast]

Most people seem to place Minish Cap first on the timeline. I'm not sure of all the reasons for this, but I had a thought...

In MC, it states that the Gorons used to live on Mt. Crenel, and that there aren't many of them left, if I'm not mistaken anyway. This would mean they are going extinct.

Wouldn't this place MC way after most of the other Zelda games?

I know it's possible that the species could recover (unless it was a really small population, in which case, no, it's not,) but it seems unlikely.

[MrMosley]

Gorons are prominant in other titles as well. For example, the Oracle of Ages has Gorons living within Labrynna's mountains, and most people place those games near the end, if not the very end, of the CT. We have also seen Gorons in WW and PH. So there are a few games that they are not included in, but those games were ones where Gorons had not yet been concieved. I doubt the history of them in Mt.Crenel is very important, only that there apparently wasn't an abundance of them at that time (at least in the areas you explore).

[sign of table]

Gorons have to go back into abundance no matter where you place TMC, as there are very many Goron's living abundantly well in FS and FSA as well as in OoT.

[Zemen]

Gorons have to go back into abundance no matter where you place TMC, as there are very many Goron's living abundantly well in FS and FSA as well as in OoT.

Basically to add on to this, as this is the direction I was going to head, no matter where MC is placed, there is a strange distribution of Gorons.

Lets say MC isn't first. This is how it would go.

OoT-lots of Gorons
moving on to the AT
WW-very few Gorons
PH-still very few Gorons
then lets say that other titles such as the oracle series goes after this, the oracle series features seemingly many Gorons again.

even if you put MC in the middle of the timeline on either the AT or the CT, the distribution of Gorons would be awkward with them being abundant, non abundant and abundant again so it doesn't really matter to the placement of MC being first.

It's not a bad observation you made, though. Kudos.

[Axle the Beast]

Basically to add on to this, as this is the direction I was going to head, no matter where MC is placed, there is a strange distribution of Gorons.

Lets say MC isn't first. This is how it would go.

OoT-lots of Gorons
moving on to the AT
WW-very few Gorons
PH-still very few Gorons
then lets say that other titles such as the oracle series goes after this, the oracle series features seemingly many Gorons again.

even if you put MC in the middle of the timeline on either the AT or the CT, the distribution of Gorons would be awkward with them being abundant, non abundant and abundant again so it doesn't really matter to the placement of MC being first.

It's not a bad observation you made, though. Kudos.
You have a good point. The species jumps all over the place, so the quantity of them in one game means very little.

I still think it's a bit odd that they distinctly mention that there aren't many left, but I think you're right regardless.

And thanks! ^^

[Zemen]

You have a good point. The species jumps all over the place, so the quantity of them in one game means very little.

I still think it's a bit odd that they distinctly mention that there aren't many left, but I think you're right regardless.

And thanks! ^^

Also, another thing to think about, you said that the game said they used to live on Mt. Crenel but now there aren't many left. That could just be referring to the number of Goron specifically on Mt. Crenel. They easily could have just gotten up and moved somewhere else rather than going extinct because I know that there is at least one Goron in the game.

[Skull_Kid]

I don't think that the species that appear in each game are the key to figure out the timeline.
Never forget that, despite the fact that there are no Zoras on the Adult timeline(they evolved into the feathered Rito), there are items in PH called Zora's Scales...
Go ahead and explain it

[Zemen]

I don't think that the species that appear in each game are the key to figure out the timeline.
Never forget that, despite the fact that there are no Zoras on the Adult timeline(they evolved into the feathered Rito), there are items in PH called Zora's Scales...
Go ahead and explain it

There are Zoras in PH, though. The Zora Warriors (which are the big fish-like enemies). Whether those are meant to be an evil Zoras or have any connection to Zoras at all is unknown, but they do have the name Zora attatched with them.

[knowlee]

Gorons are also present in ALttP and that game is supposed to be one of the last games in the timeline. (According to what I've read.)

[MrMosley]

Gorons are also present in ALttP and that game is supposed to be one of the last games in the timeline. (According to what I've read.)

False. No where in ALttP is there a Goron or creature anything like a Goron. Also, it is widely believe that ALttP actually sets closer in the middle of the current timeline. You still have LA, OoA, OoS, LoZ, and AoL to add somewhere after ALttP.

[knowlee]

False. No where in ALttP is there a Goron or creature anything like a Goron. Also, it is widely believe that ALttP actually sets closer in the middle of the current timeline. You still have LA, OoA, OoS, LoZ, and AoL to add somewhere after ALttP.

Well, what about those creatures that you find on Death Mountain that can turn into purple stones when you hit them. I think I've read somewhere they are gorons.

EDIT: Never mind, you're right, Gorons don't exist in ALttP. I was mistaking those creatures on Death Mountain for them, sorry. :)

[drizztman55]

If you want to think of it this way the Goron population could have been simply fluctuating throughout the entirety of the time line. much like any animal population.
OR
This is a little off but could the Gorons be hibernating and no one really knew about it? simply sleeping inside of rock, kind of like the goron inside of the rock you summon in TP to unfreeze the lake (I don't remember what he says when you get him out). I mean i'm no expert on Goron lore or anything so you can smite me down for being wrong if i am. I won't be hurt. My thoughts will probably be more valid once i finish all of the games though.

btw first post

[Anemos]

In MC, it states that the Gorons used to live on Mt. Crenel, and that there aren't many of them left, if I'm not mistaken anyway. This would mean they are going extinct.


I'm not one to mess with timeline theory. I absolutely hate it. It is the most common flamed topic series of the community. It causes WAY too much controversy for me.

But...you don't look on the other side of the scale.

If there were so few, it may also mean that the Goron race was only just beginning. I don't remember Zoras in Minish Cap either, so I guess they would be just starting out too.

[Pinecove]

Pre OoT, (pre TMC as well if TMC is first) Volvagia is tormenting the gorons. You have your answer.

[Zant]

Don't forget, there are Gorons in ST too! Lots of them!

[OotLord1003]

Well Axle has a point, They were mostly extinct because of the great flood, Gorons can't swim (according to MM). So only few gorons reside. But have you ever seen a female goron? and also there were alot of gorons in ST, So here is a big mystery, Goron's in TWW: like 6, Goron's in PH: Bigger, Goron's in ST: Even larger. But I have never seen any female's, they are pretty much all men. So what happened?

[Pinecove]

We don't see female gorons because as Hylians, we don't know how to tell the males apart from the females.

Case closed.

[green goron]

Maybe in MC the gorons were just beginning to evole since its the BEGINNING and thats why there are so few of them