Ocarina of time "Classic"?

[Onilink89]

now this may seem a dumb and simple topic but i think its something worthy to discuss about.

now we all now what classic games are right?
now here to the next question: "should Ocarina of time be conciderd as a classic game?"

Now "A link to the past" thats a classic, but is oot already rated as classic or is it too early for that. i know its the first 3d zelda game with a huge stroyline and all, but im not sure if it is a classic game. The game was released in november 1998 thats almost 10 years.

so what do you guys think about this.
is OOT a classic or not? please also give your opinions about it.
Because my opinion is between yes and no, so I want to know what other people thinks about this.

[linkman8]

I think it should be. I mean it was one of the most popular games of its time, and was one of the most epic games on the N64. Given time, it'll probably be considered a classic game.

[Chrono]

I say the game needs about a decade to become a true classic. But actually in this case, since OoT was being developed since 1995, I would now state it as a classic.

[zeypherlink]

I don't consider Ocarina of Time a classic, I consider it to be a legend :D
But yeah, its been out long enough I suppose.

[mario]

I never thought a game's "classic" status was necessarily dependent on how many years it's been out. Katamari Damacy is definitely a classic to me, though it's much newer than Ocarina of Time. I'd even consider Portal to have plenty of classic-worthy attributes. And come on, isn't ten years plenty of time for a game to be considered classic? That's probably more than half of the lives of most of the people on this forum. :p

Ocarina of Time was an amazing game that really made 3D gameplay work in a console environment, told a great story that has pretty much become the basis of all Zelda games to follow, and set a standard for the whole gaming industry. If that's not a classic, I don't know what is.

[firebunnies123]

How could Oot not be classic? it is one of the most well known zelda games. For me a video game's age doesn't consider it classic. (sorta) Its the game its self. ocarina of time just has the feel of the previous zelda games. Majora's mask is a different story though.

[Chrono]

I never thought a game's "classic" status was necessarily dependent on how many years it's been out. Katamari Damacy is definitely a classic to me, though it's much newer than Ocarina of Time. I'd even consider Portal to have plenty of classic-worthy attributes. And come on, isn't ten years plenty of time for a game to be considered classic? That's probably more than half of the lives of most of the people on this forum. :p

Ocarina of Time was an amazing game that really made 3D gameplay work in a console environment, told a great story that has pretty much become the basis of all Zelda games to follow, and set a standard for the whole gaming industry. If that's not a classic, I don't know what is.

Maybe cuz OoT didnt actually set the standard for Zelda games, when it was obviously the first three (namely ALttP) that did. Plus the ten years comes from the music genre if you even know anything about that.

[Smitie]

OoT deserves a 'classic' status. It was the perfect example of how a good 3D adventure game looks like.

[Mehplep]

I agree some with Avenged here, the three first games were the ones that really made the structure for "Zelda". OoT was just a continuation of the concept created in ALttP. But, OoT added some serious new graphics, and launched the whole franchise into 3D. And considering how many 3D-Zeldagames there are, OoT surely is a classic for the 3D-Zelda.

[mario]

Maybe cuz OoT didnt actually set the standard for Zelda games, when it was obviously the first three (namely ALttP) that did. Plus the ten years comes from the music genre if you even know anything about that.

While the first three games certainly set most of the precedent of standard Zelda gameplay, Ocarina of Time was a trendsetter for all modern games of its genre. Z-targeting alone (or whatever button we hold for lock-on nowadays, it seems to change all the time) was used by several other N64 and GameCube titles, because it was a simple and effective means to navigate in a three-dimensional setting. Link to the Past may have had a compelling story, but OoT had a compelling story that was told much more effectively, with a better interaction with in-game characters and beautiful cutscenes.

Yes, I do know a thing or two about the idea behind music being rendered 'classic', but those standards would not seem to have any bearing on this discussion. Truth be told, I feel like the 'classic' label is meaningless anyway. I'll enjoy a game based on its merits, not how old it is. Something has to be good in addition to being not-new for it to be considered 'classic' by any reasonable observer. I doubt anyone thinks Wall Street Kid is a classic. ^__^

[Ganonflakes]

Definitly. It sold so well as well. Also, I think any game that has been voted best selling game of the year has to be worthy of the title 'classic'

[Mike Pothier]

*blinks*

Its long since left "Classic" status in the dust. Its now in the "Legend" status, as zeypherlink pointed out.

[Stan]

*blinks*

Its long since left "Classic" status in the dust. Its now in the "Legend" status, as zeypherlink pointed out.

I agree with Mike, OOT has long passed classic! When it came out that set the standard of how good future Zelda titles should be. :clap:

[El Bagu]

Another short reply from me: YES!!! A classic it is :)

[blackice_cc]

I'd say it has to be a classic because plenty of the current zelda fans started with OoT (not to mention it's an epic/awesome/very fun/puzzling in some parts game.)

[Kintenbo]

Let's face it, most Legend of Zelda games are pretty much "Classics". You can't go wrong with them. When I first played Majora's Mask, I realized the awesomeness of the Legend of Zelda universe. Sure, I don't like it as much as Fire Emblem, but great games are great. Legend of Zelda qualifies as great.

[Inflexus]

I thought N64 games were falling into a classic category now, it's been 10 years and the original LoZ was considered a classic and it came out in '89, right?

I'd say it's a classic game. Good quality given the time it came out, fun, hours of adventure, and it set the bar high.

[Powerbracelet]

It's definitely a classic, though I can't wait for 2010 so Majora's Mask can get this same debate!

[Y2K3]

I certainly think of it as a classic. As someone had said, the definition of classic can slightly change for the individual. To me, there doesn't need a set time to be a 'classic', as I almost consider MM and even WW to be classic.
For me, the real classics are LoZ, AoL, and OoT.

[EponaOwns]

Probably. It was voted one of the best games ever made

[Mases]

I think at this point, Ocarina of Time is considered a classic. For me, being a gamer that started playing games far before the 3d standard was put in place, it is hard for me to consider anything that is NOT 2d... classic. Basically, the term classic is very arbitrary and will vary from one person to another.

Does a game have to lose 'modern' playability in order to be considered classic? Meaning, if a games mechanics are BETTER than what some games offer today, can that still be considered classic? To me, it would be still considered modern. If ONLY the graphics were 'slightly' upgraded, and Ocarina of Time was released right now in todays world, (meaning it never was released once before), then I think it would surely be one of the better titles to release for the Wii.

What I'm getting at, is that if a game is still up to par with modern play, than it's not considered classic...... However, I don't agree with this argument that I just made. I think playing Ocarina of Time nowadays is just a tad awkward. I don't think the controls are perfected like current days.

All in all, I don't think pure quality or age has to do with being a classic. It has... an arbitrary aspect to the game that makes it classic. For me, Ocarina of Time is a classic.

[Josh]

I myself would consider it a classic for a couple of reasons.

1. Truly from I have seen it is the most popular and loves Zelda Game since like forever. Whether it would be the classic of the Zelda Series or just a classic in general, well it would probably.....be....both....yeah.

2. Going also with the most popular and loved Zelda Game, is the kind of Fanboys. Now it some threads I've posted in recently you've heard me talk about the Ocarina of Time fanboy's and how they ruin Twilight Princess. Why is that? Well, most compare every new Zelda Game (not the 2d ones, mind you) but the 3D ones. I think it should a classic because of that too.

And that's all I can think of right now.

[Thewindmaker]

I personally would not call it a classic...

"yet".

The game is only 10 years old, and as Masses said the gameplay mechanics are still being used to this day. The only thing the game has that modern day games don't is the same quality Graphics. And even then it is still better then most of the free games you can get online.

It will one day be a classic, but right now I would only consider the Atari systems, Sega systems and the NES classics. Even SNES still has some games which are being released which are similiar in quality on the Nintendo DS. Castlevania comes to mind.

It will be a classic, but only once it has reached a prime age. 10 years isn't long enough yet.

[Rebekah]

I say the game needs about a decade to become a true classic. But actually in this case, since OoT was being developed since 1995, I would now state it as a classic.

its already almost a decade old >>

i would say it should be a classic... goldeneye is only 1 year older then OoT and it is a classic.. so why shouldnt OoT be?

[Kybyrian]

now this may seem a dumb and simple topic but i think its something worthy to discuss about.

now we all now what classic games are right?
now here to the next question: "should Ocarina of time be conciderd as a classic game?"

Now "A link to the past" thats a classic, but is oot already rated as classic or is it too early for that. i know its the first 3d zelda game with a huge stroyline and all, but im not sure if it is a classic game. The game was released in november 1998 thats almost 10 years.

so what do you guys think about this.
is OOT a classic or not? please also give your opinions about it.
Because my opinion is between yes and no, so I want to know what other people thinks about this.

Actually it was already 10 years old. So I don't know where you got that date from.

Also, I agree with Mases's statement. About how it's hard to consider anything not 2-Dimensional a classic.

[Onilink89]

Actually it was already 10 years old. So I don't know where you got that date from.

Also, I agree with Mases's statement. About how it's hard to consider anything not 2-Dimensional a classic.

lol. i just got the data from ZD itself.
well, lets see, its now 2008 and released at novermber 1998
so the reason that i said "almost" is because we are not in november 2008 yet.

[Kybyrian]

Like I said, Ocarina of Time turned 10 years old a long time ago, or are you misreading what I said? >_>

It was all over the place.

[Rebekah]

we mean release dates >>

october 28th is OoT 10th birthday?

and how can anything not 2D not be a classic? Doom and wolfenstein 3D are 3D... and they are classics >>

[link67125]

at this point it should be higher then a classic
it already won the gmae of the year award

[Josh]

Lots of games have won games of the year award, LIKE TWILIGHT PRINCESS! (<- This is sarcasm)

Now to change my opinion for some odd reason, no.

Ocarina would be only be a classic because we think it's that damn good of a game. Classic to me now seems like it's aged, lived through the years and still something really important. We might have to wait another 10 years and it can be immortalized like the Original LoZ.

[Onilink89]

kinda agree with josh here.
games that won a award doesn 't mean that they automiticly will be conciderd as an classic.

Here is a link to people who don 't know the defenition of the word "classic" (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/classic#English)


I think at this point, Ocarina of Time is considered a classic. For me, being a gamer that started playing games far before the 3d standard was put in place, it is hard for me to consider anything that is NOT 2d... classic. Basically, the term classic is very arbitrary and will vary from one person to another.

yeah thats the main reason is still had my doubts. because i started at the 4th console gen a.k.a 16 bit area. some maybe our vieuws of 3d and 2d are different of the new young that never even started with the 2d gameplay. i have to admit, i still concider 3d games modern even if its from the n64.

[waldo12]

it wasnt really until like this year cuz now its 10 year and many games r judged by it so yeah it is

[Kitsu]

Well, games, being a interactive media, are judged differently, and are critized because they aren't considered like 'art", but rather like a object.

Ocarina of Time, in my opinion, surpassed by far what a video game is. It had an exellent story, decent gameplay, and above all, it was the kind of game that you always want to come back to.
Also, for me, Ocarina has become a classic because of how I've, no matter how much I play it, always come back to it.

[Axle the Beast]

Definitely yes. I don't think a game needs to be old to be a classic. I believe in "instant classics."

Whether you believe that or not, OoT is old enough to be considered a classic (in my opinion,) at least when you compare it's age to it's awesomeness.

[Chris]

Well, to start, it was the first 3-D Zelda game so there is it's first point. Then, I would say that any Zelda game made before 2000 is a classic.

[Kitsu]

Well, to start, it was the first 3-D Zelda game so there is it's first point. Then, I would say that any Zelda game made before 2000 is a classic.

Ocarina of Time did do something revolutionary in the sense that it was the first 3-D Zelda, however, I believe it is Ocarina's overall plot and story-line that made it a "clasic".

I disagree with your latter statement, I think a 'classic' game can be any game that is truly unique and interesting.

But overall, I love Ocarina of Time for its originality and how different it is compared to many standard games.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Of course it's a classic.

A decade after it's release, and it's never been out done by any other Zelda game (IMHO), and it introduced so many new featuress that are still used today. (Z-targeting)

[Alex_Da_Great]

Well it really depends on how long it has been out for. If we were talking about OOT being a classic 10 years ago, most will say no as it's a new released game. For example, TP... Is it a classic game? No. 10 years later. Is it a classic game? Yes.

So it depends on the time and ALSO the amount of change consoles had (graphics, motion plus etc.).

[Midna666]

In my opinion OOT is probably one of the most overrated games of all time.
The only reason why people think that it's a classic is because it was the first 3-D Zelda game.
But if you took the 3-D away from it, then all you have left is a Link to the Past clone.

Also what makes a game a classic?
Is a game considered a classic because it sold well?
Is a game classic because it's popular?
What makes a game classic?

Yes I will say that OOT is a classic game, because of nostalgia, which the OOT fans can't get pass.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

In my opinion OOT is probably one of the most overrated games of all time.
The only reason why people think that it's a classic is because it was the first 3-D Zelda game.
But if you took the 3-D away from it, then all you have left is a Link to the Past clone.

Also what makes a game a classic?
Is a game considered a classic because it sold well?
Is a game classic because it's popular?
What makes a game classic?

Yes I will say that OOT is a classic game, because of nostalgia, which the OOT fans can't get pass.

No, actually, it's a classic because of how it changed perspective on games. Whether it's 3D or not is completely irrelevent. ALttP is a classic because it completely changed how Zelda was looked at and played. OoT is a classic because it did the same exact thing, be it in 3D or not. Same goes with the Mario series with NES Super Mario Bros. and Mario 64. Games like Sunshine and TP however, are not yet considered classics, and I don't think they ever will be either, because they never brought in anything genuinely new.

Overrated by today's standards has absolutely nothing to do with it. Even if it is, it doesn't change it's status as a classic game that reimagined Zelda.

[citanuzuki]

Ocarina of Time should be considered a classic yes,but its just a little bit overrated in my opinion.yes its great and everything and i highly enjoy the game,but a lot of key elements of the game are outdated and have been updated in games like Twilight Princess.Some other games deserved some of that fame to right?i have a few in my head but I'm sure you guys can name a few.i mean not just ocarina of time but a lot of nintendo games are a bit overrated.great games yes but overrated.Other great nintendo games like Golden Sun suffer the loss of popularity from games like Pokemon and Mario and Zelda etc.now i love nintendo but some nintendo games deserve as much fame as others.

[Link428]

I'd say kind of yes because Its a well known game and a really good game at that. But I wouldnt title it as a classic. I would tital it as a legend.

[dumb180]

It doesn't get much more classic than OoT, aye? It's groundbreaking, what with the good graphics, fresh new world, and unique targeting mechanism? If OoT somehow doesn't meet the necessary requirements to be referred to as classic, we should definitely consider changing those requirements to meet OoT's needs. :lol:

In my understanding of them, the requirements for a video game to be considered 'classic' are really pretty slim: Be fun and remembered fondly by those who played it. Ocarina of Time is pretty much venerated at times, and thus certainly meets that criteria.

Again it's all pretty opinionated. My classics may not be yours. ;)

[Raven]

At this point I like to think almost all 64 games are classic, having owned a ton of them myself over the years. Though i don't have as many as before (there are a lot of fond memories about those games), but i think they are almost all classics now because 64 was two consoles ago just like NES was to N64 when that was new.

OoT stands clearly above many of the 64's list of greatest games. I think it's safe to say it is truly a classic.

[elliotstriforce]

yes ocarina of time is a classic.

reasons are that it was amazing and any amazing game is a classic.
its been 11 almost 12 years since it came out.
it was the arguably the best game for the n64.

[Lord Liam]

Of course it's a Classic game. It's been legendary since it's release and deserves to be placed among the greatest games of all time.

[princess-kikyo]

They very first Game that I came to love I mean super nintendo was okay, I liked the games but not that interested. Then Daddy got us a 64 and WOW ZELDA !!!!!!!

My first loved Game, At first I admit, I could go smite Ganon/Ganondorf easy peasy, but was a big chicken and couldnt do the temples myself, at least not with out my sisters there. :P

But when I got to be like 7 or 8 I conquered the spiritual stones and on with the game, so most of the time at first I was playing my dad completed file Being hardcore and whatnot. :P

But I love this Game and now almost turning 20, I think it should be considered a classic. Because the other Zelda games lack the awesome graphics and storylines, They are still great but it was a big leap for the game with OOT. So in my eyes it will always be a classic.

[nicktheslayer]

SOME games need time to develop their classic status. But OoT? INSTANT classic.

[gabesawakening]

I think it should be a classic. Not only was it a classic in my mind but it was an EPIC CLASSIC to almost all of us!

:cucco:

[Azure Sage]

I think it should be a classic. Not only was it a classic in my mind but it was an EPIC CLASSIC to almost all of us!

:cucco:

Exactly! The greatest game ever made not a classic? O_o

[Ganondork]

It is definately a classic. It's old, but it still gives kids my age - and younger - a thrill. Games like black ops (people who ever read my posts about games know I hate black ops and all of CoD) are good now, but will be sooner forgotten than OoT. The other day I was watching The Big Bang Theory (a repeat unfortunately) and they made a reference to OoT when their belongings were stolen. Me and my dad had found that to be quite funny. But 12 or so years from now, there will not be a reference to any game like black ops, only true classics like OoT

[WulfLink]

To me, OoT is a legend all it's own, just as Mike Pothier stated. OoT has long since left the status of "Classic" in the dust, becoming a Legend, all on it's lonesome. There are very few games that I believe have ever achieved this status, most of them being LoZ games. Were it up to me, OoT would have a class all it's own. But that's me. ;)

[Go_Dark_Link]

Like it has been said in previous posts, Oot is definitely a classic, and more. Definitely my favorite Zelda game, and the one that really got me into the series in the first place. It is such a great game that nintendo decided to do a remake of it. And it is so good, that people that played it ages ago, when it first came out, will probably play it again. Not only because of the improved graphics and what not, but because of a chance to relieve that childhood experience, to feel the nostalgia brought to them by playing it just because it was such a great game.

[JuicieJ]

Um...yes. It was made 12...years...ago. And is one of the best games of all time, if not the best. That makes it classic. Plain and simple.

[HappyMaskSlsman]

It truly depends on what your idea of "classic" is, but you'll find that the answer will almost always be a "yes". I've always seen a classic as a game that:
A. Has many years under it's belt/often a better title (for example, Punch Out!! Nes)
or
B. A fairly old game that would go on a "Top X Games You Have to Play" list (such as Final Fantasy VI)
Either way, I think OoT, a game I have always referred to in passing as a "classic", more than meets both criteria. My answer is a resounding "yes".

[Caleb, Of Asui]

The two precedents for it being a classic are (1) age, and (2) being a friggin' awesome game. Ocarina of Time fulfills both. I kind of wonder with many of the games I've played when they'll be old enough to be considered classics, but Ocarina of Time is not one of them. Exactly how old does a game have to be to be considered classic, though? When will The Wind Waker be considered a classic Zelda title?

[SinkingBadges]

Ocarina of Time is definitely a classic. So many games like Darksiders or Okami (don't get me wrong, they're very good) are mainly referred to as "Zelda clones" for a reason.

The fans were so hyped for Twilight Princess because of how much it reminded many of OoT. The remake for 3DS has great reviews and decent sales. And many games like the afforementioned being always referred to as clones (and guess what, the term is considered a positive thing).

For a now 13 year-old game, that is a lot to boast about.