Cows?..

[the walrus cat]

Has anyone thought that the cows being in some secret caverns were odd? What could they be doing there? How do they get there?

I'm thinking of two things.

1) Nintendo just put them there as a source of milk in more places around Hyrule.

2) "they" (as in the alien/ghosts) put them there. They travel in a sphere of light!? Why couldn't they put them there. Why would they though? Maybe they travel the universe(s), searching for good milk? So when they abduct cows, and their milk isn't good enough, they leave them under the ground, so they will know where they are, but it will be harder for others to steal them?

Maybe it's a simple as number 1. But out of all places why would Nintendo put them in underground caverns?

[Judai]

I have an idea: RANDOM SPAWNING COWS.

Nah kidding. Although they could just be random character placements.

[Shadsie]

There are some inside Jabu-Jabu in the Ocarina of Time Master Quest. I figure that the great fish likes beef, but is unable to digest the cows, so they just hang out inside him, undigested, being cows.

[StalfosSlayer]

There is also a cow down the bottom of gerudo valley as a child.

[angelkid]

"they" (as in the alien/ghosts) put them there.

Come off it. When has Zelda ever had reference to aliens? Its medieval, not Sci-fi.

The obvious explanation (the one which no one wants to hear) is that they are just there because Nintendo wanted to use them as an easter egg. However, I think everything in Zelda, no matter how obscure, has to have some actual explanation. Just because its more fun that way.

A plausible yet ridiculous explanation is just merely that the cow(s) were grazing and fell into one of the holes, then being a cow couldn't climb back out. However, I remember there being one if these cows on top of death mountain, where there is no grass, so I don't see how that explanation could be valid.

Another explanation, is that there is a cow hater in the world of hyrule who gets some form of sadistic delights from trapping cows down holes. Again, incredibly unlikely.

The most believable explanation, is again ridiculous. It is that these are a special breed of cows, who strive in dark dingy areas I.E underground caves. And, therefore, when they are born, they hunt for a hole -or maybe even dig their own,- climb into it, and live happily ever after.

[StalfosSlayer]

There are cow stealing aliens in Majora's Mask, which i think has many cows under ground, more than OoT

[the walrus cat]

There are cow stealing aliens in Majora's Mask, which i think has many cows under ground, more than OoT
It wasn't actually stated they were aliens, but there's plenty of evidence, whether they're actually supposed to be aliens or not, it's at least a reference to aliens. I've heard about cow's being abducted by UFOs and their page on zelda wiki pointed out that the cow stealing event in Majora's Mask was very similar to a different encounter (with cow stealing and everything).

[StalfosSlayer]

I thought Romani did say aliens, but I trust you, havent played MM in a while.

[Esscex]

Come off it. When has Zelda ever had reference to aliens? Its medieval, not Sci-fi.

Umm, have you ever heard of a game called Majora's Mask? You should check it out, cause there are aliens in the game...

Also, the game is not medieval. It is really it's own type of culture/era, but if anything, it's more Celtic than medieval.

[ShellShocker]

Umm, have you ever heard of a game called Majora's Mask? You should check it out, cause there are aliens in the game...

Also, the game is not medieval. It is really it's own type of culture/era, but if anything, it's more Celtic than medieval.

Yes, that's right. Plus, it seemed like they totally were aliens in Majora's Mask, they flew down and stole cows with RAY BEAMS (most probably from UFOs), plus, in my opinion, they looked like some sort of floating aliens. Haven't you guys heard of aliens coming down in UFOs and taking people into space with ray beams? Eek! If my calculations are correct, Majora's Mask = War of the Worlds. :P Just kidding.

Anyway, back on the idea of the thread, I think I'll go with your second idea of "Them" putting the cows there. Unless of course Romani says "they" kill the cows at some point in the game. It's not like a cow in either Majora's Mask or Ocarina of Time could even fit through the holes in the ground anyway. So they couldn't just step in and fall down. This is quite interesting, it's kind of like how do the cows just magically produce milk because the song is soothing.

[the walrus cat]

Yes, that's right. Plus, it seemed like they totally were aliens in Majora's Mask, they flew down and stole cows with RAY BEAMS (most probably from UFOs), plus, in my opinion, they looked like some sort of floating aliens. Haven't you guys heard of aliens coming down in UFOs and taking people into space with ray beams? Eek! If my calculations are correct, Majora's Mask = War of the Worlds. :P Just kidding.

Anyway, back on the idea of the thread, I think I'll go with your second idea of "Them" putting the cows there. Unless of course Romani says "they" kill the cows at some point in the game. It's not like a cow in either Majora's Mask or Ocarina of Time could even fit through the holes in the ground anyway. So they couldn't just step in and fall down. This is quite interesting, it's kind of like how do the cows just magically produce milk because the song is soothing.Romani never said anything about cows being killed. One thing that has just interested me are the two cows in majora's mask that must be found by placing a bomb on the ground!? They were well hidden and how were they surviving down there? Maybe "they" were taking care of the cows.

[angelkid]

What? There is aliens in MM? That is... awful. Stupid and awful. I apologise then, I never expected them to include aliens in any Zelda. I thought they had more sense than that. As to UFO's putting the cows underground.... I am unsure. There are none in OoT, perhaps they are Termina specific?

[ShellShocker]

Romani never said anything about cows being killed. One thing that has just interested me are the two cows in majora's mask that must be found by placing a bomb on the ground!? They were well hidden and how were they surviving down there? Maybe "they" were taking care of the cows.

Yeah, I didn't think Romani said anything about "Them" killing the cows anyway, it was just a sudden thought. Also, about the cows in the holes: I like your idea a lot. They could have been caring for the cows down there. I never knew of many locations of cows until I found ZD. :thinking:

[Skull_Kid]

I thought Romani did say aliens, but I trust you, havent played MM in a while.

Romani never uses the word "aliens".
She only refers to them as "them" or "they".
Even though the method they use to abduct cows is very alien-ish, we can assume that they are poes.

[knowlee]

Well I remember finding one on Death Mountain, but I never knew about the other ones.

[ShellShocker]

Romani never uses the word "aliens".
She only refers to them as "them" or "they".
Even though the method they use to abduct cows is very alien-ish, we can assume that they are poes.

Hmm, that makes me think. Some of us think "Them/They" are aliens. But yes, I agree, they did look a lot like poes, even look at the practice balloons! Anyway, as I was saying, "They" could be poes and poes are ghost like enemies, correct? Hehe, funny. Alien-ghosts. :P

[Skull_Kid]

Hmm, that makes me think. Some of us think "Them/They" are aliens. But yes, I agree, they did look a lot like poes, even look at the practice balloons! Anyway, as I was saying, "They" could be poes and poes are ghost like enemies, correct? Hehe, funny. Alien-ghosts. :P

Yes, poes are ghosts, spirits, if you prefer.
And it's true that some people refer to aliens as "them/they", but, lots of people do that concerning ghosts/spirits as well.
So still in a draw, here

[Gokou]

What? There is aliens in MM? That is... awful. Stupid and awful. I apologise then, I never expected them to include aliens in any Zelda. I thought they had more sense than that. As to UFO's putting the cows underground.... I am unsure. There are none in OoT, perhaps they are Termina specific?

You're missing the point of how mysterious and dark Majora's Mask really is. Once second you're fighting aliens, the next you see a man dancing a mushroom looking boulder then some random hand busts out of the toilet.

As for the cows...It most likely just Nintendo putting secrets in to get milk to gain life back later.

[Axle the Beast]

There are some inside Jabu-Jabu in the Ocarina of Time Master Quest. I figure that the great fish likes beef, but is unable to digest the cows, so they just hang out inside him, undigested, being cows.
Epic post, Shaddlez! :xd:


Anyway, I think the whole thing doesn't really hold significance. They likely placed the cows in the underground grottos as they did with other strange objects to either just be weird or add a little more to the cave.

That or they wanted more places for you to get Lon Lon Milk. I think that is the most likely of all the possibilities, as it would be a lot harder to obtain without them. I myself used them on several occasions.

[Poe_Salesman]

You know what happened? Lon Lon ranch tried out-sourcing their product to other Hylians (such as the Zoras, Gorons, Kokiri, etc.) who then got tired of the whole business. They all got together and decided that it was too cruel to kill the cows, but that it was better to let them "loose" in the wild and wait for them to die on their own. Of course, by "loose" they really meant "in deep dark hole where it is more likely that they'll die. After commiting the horrible deed they informed Talon and company that the cows had turned rabid and therefore had to be slaughtered. And you know what? Lon Lon Ranch should start selling milk AND steak.

[MalonMaverick11]

If you think that's weird, u need to play OoT: Master Quest! In jabu-jabu's belly there are cow heads on the walls. They are used as switched that you shoot, amoung other things. check it out, u'll be weirded out.

[x-Link-x]

In MM, they're even at the bottom of the well in Ikana, sure we know that we need them for then Gibdo trading thing, but hoes a cow get down there in the first place?! o.O;;?!?!

[Deku Scrub]

Methinks we have Mole-cows in our midst.

But I have to admit that I have never heard of any cows in hidden places in the ground until now. I haven't really investigated through hidden holes and caverns enough to have found anything.

Maybe Romani buried the cows in secret storage places underground so "they" couldn't get them, and she never got the chance to dig them up. :P

[Master Kokiri 9]

Come off it. When has Zelda ever had reference to aliens? Its medieval, not Sci-fi.

The obvious explanation (the one which no one wants to hear) is that they are just there because Nintendo wanted to use them as an easter egg. However, I think everything in Zelda, no matter how obscure, has to have some actual explanation. Just because its more fun that way.

A plausible yet ridiculous explanation is just merely that the cow(s) were grazing and fell into one of the holes, then being a cow couldn't climb back out. However, I remember there being one if these cows on top of death mountain, where there is no grass, so I don't see how that explanation could be valid.

Another explanation, is that there is a cow hater in the world of hyrule who gets some form of sadistic delights from trapping cows down holes. Again, incredibly unlikely.

The most believable explanation, is again ridiculous. It is that these are a special breed of cows, who strive in dark dingy areas I.E underground caves. And, therefore, when they are born, they hunt for a hole -or maybe even dig their own,- climb into it, and live happily ever after.

Dude while the game is medeval it's nearly impossible that mideval people (real world) and farther back didn't see them. and also did you see an advanced metal ufo? No. Aliens are valid for any time period even something as far back as mideval times.

[Zarom]

In MM, they're even at the bottom of the well in Ikana, sure we know that we need them for then Gibdo trading thing, but hoes a cow get down there in the first place?! o.O;;?!?!

They put the cows at random places so we can have milk from them. In the bottom of the well, a cow was placed there to actually have milk, since there is a gibdo who wants calcium. :)

[Nejiron]

Regarding the alien/ghosts in Romani Ranch, when you talk to Cremia, she complains that Romani is afraid of "ghosts" so "they" are probably ghosts.

[Steve]

I think this is just one of those things you can't look too far into. Honestly, I think Nintendo put them there for milk, cut and dry. If it was Them though, I'm not sure why'd they just take cows, then hide them, I would think the cows would serve some kind of purpose to Them.


TIn the bottom of the well, a cow was placed there to actually have milk, since there is a gibdo who wants calcium. :)
I will say, if this is the case, then perhaps they're actually good beings trying to help people including Link on his adventure.

[Vash03]

I've always thought of Them being aliens, they abduct cows... Have you ever heard of a ghost abducting a cow? I sure haven't lol.. Aliens though.. they do it all the time.. <.<... THEY'RE EVERYWHERE MAN... THEY'RE IN THE TREES!

[Anthony]

I belive that the Cows where just placed randomly around the Zelda Universe,
some where just to fill space, so that there are some interesting things in empty area's.
Otherwise, I beive that Nintendo purposely placed some of them, just for humour.

[Chrono]

Who cares if aliens showed up in a Zelda game? And don't compare the Zelda series to an actual era that happened in real life. Zelda is not medieval (nor is it based during those ages), it is fantasy. If a fictional character can shoot beams from his sword and goes on a quest to save a princess from an evil demon lord while fighting monsters, then anything can happen.

[Nepolink]

The famous aliens are the monsters from Romani Rance in Majora's Mask. They come 2:00 AM till 5:00 AM, they are taking the cows somewhere, i don't know where but that monsters are like aliens jes, but if they ARE is my question too.
Anyway about Master Quest jes, the cows are everywhere in Lord Juba-Juba's Belly. They are used for keys to open any doors. I was them even at the bottom of the water. Bellow the second room, and the funnies one i really can't figure out how many it are, it looks soo stupid though.

In OOT they put the cows for producing milk, if not then i don't know why they set a cow on a pointless place like the Death Mountain. And other secret places.

The cow in the bottom of the well in Ikana was needed. There is a Gibdo who wants milk from you. If you go outside maybe you must start over again. They some cows because you need them in any case. But why use them as a sort of buttons in Master Quest? xD

[Evenstevenp]

What? There is aliens in MM? That is... awful. Stupid and awful. I apologise then, I never expected them to include aliens in any Zelda. I thought they had more sense than that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngKBvp6WU-k
Wrong. It is not awful. :)

[Zarom]

Yeah. I think they are some kind of aliens/poes/ghosts. And something sad you may have notice: On the third day, if you haven't done this side quest, Romani will get back in the ranch, but she will have lost her memory.

The cows are place everywhere just to one purpose: to have milk. :)

[Flagpole]

They must be there for some reason... I mean, they give you milk if you play Epona´s Song in front of them.

For example, the only thing the Gossip stones are useful for is because you can play zelda Lullaby or Song of Storms in front of them to make a fairy appear.

Or maybe something happens when you play Epona's Song in front of all of the cows, idk...

[Zarom]

They must be there for some reason... I mean, they give you milk if you play Epona´s Song in front of them.

For example, the only thing the Gossip stones are useful for is because you can play zelda Lullaby or Song of Storms in front of them to make a fairy appear.

Or maybe something happens when you play Epona's Song in front of all of the cows, idk...

The cows are there only to give milk to Link. For example, there is a cow in the well in Ikana who is there to give milk because Link need it to give it to a gibdo who wants calcium. :nod:

No. Gossip Stones are also there to respond to the Mask of Truth. They tell really interesting gossips. :nod:

And no. Nothing happens when you play Epona's Song in front of them all. :D

[Master Kokiri 9]

In mq cows were all over jabu jabu's belly but they were embedded into the tissue which to me suggests that jabu jabu doesn't need to digest much of his food in order to obtain nutrients from it. But being absorbed alive seems very gruesome don't you think?

[elliotstriforce]

well the cows are fun to screw around with and good to practice killing with your sword.

cows... blah blah blah... milk... yes milk!!! what is there to say???

[zeldatwilight]

This was very weird and just having cows in a Zelda game was even weird. Why, and how would a huge cow fit into such a small little burrow like thing? This makes absolutely ZERO since. I know that they give you milk, and i suppose if you really needed some health, you could get if from the cow. I suppose thats the only main reason that a cow is in the game.

[NoRush]

How could aliens or "they" affect cows in OoT, if "they" appear in MM, which comes after OoT?

[Aki Graham]

Cows are meant to give milk. 'Tis all.
In MM, they are parts of some major side-quests, which is pretty much the whole game.
So, that just goes to show...

That cows can walk on water.

[zants follower]

How could aliens or "they" affect cows in OoT, if "they" appear in MM, which comes after OoT?


romani says that "they" come every year. also, theres the whole at the beginning of mm and noone knows if termina is a different country or a different deminsion or time or wutevah

[OoT boy11]

I think the weirdist thing is you can get a cow in your room in OoT I mean seriousley how did Malon get a cow up a ladder?.

[Aki Graham]

She has the triforce... maybe.

No just kidding, she's a rancher, so she's BUFF!

[Link Master]

I think the monsters put them there so that Link could not get more health. Note most of the caverns are hidden so Nintendo yes put them there but not so Link can get milk whenever he wanted but so he would have to find them. This is just my opinion.

[Maloandtalo]

it's kind of like how do the cows just magically produce milk because the song is soothing.

It could be some kind of cow viagra who knows i could see an ad for it

[CZG]

The cow in your Kokiri house was epic!
What the...?

The only thing about cows that really stood out, was the funny laugh they had in MM (after getting their milk?)
That is creepy, much creepier than 'They', I wish I could come along and get the hell out of there.

By the way, having aliens sounds nasty, I know.... but it's not really bad or violating the era of time or the feeling of a Zelda game.
Get Majora's Mask and play it!