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firebunnies123
03-17-2008, 04:36 PM
what is your favorite antagonist in the zelda series. There are many throughout the game but the main one is ganon/ganondorf. His name just brings chills to ur spine. Ganon is the best at the job. Just look at all the games he is the antagonist: loz,lttp,la (if you count the nightmare),Oot, Oos,Ooa, windwaker, and tp. He is just beast. So there are others like vaati, bellum, Agahnim, zant, and dark link/ shadow link.

whos ur favorite?

zeypherlink
03-17-2008, 05:02 PM
First of all...Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person. Secondly, you can't count Aghnaim as the main antagonist of ALttP, because Ganon(dorf) was. Same thing for Zant in TP...
Aside from Ganon(dorf), I'm gonna say Vaati. Bellum was pretty...dumb.

Chrono
03-17-2008, 05:07 PM
LOL yeah Ganondorf is his human form while Ganon is his beast form...Aside from Ganon....I would say Thunderbird and Shadow Link from AoL.

linkman8
03-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Ganondorf is a classic, love to hate him, kind of bad-guy. That's why he would get my vote.
Vaati was pretty cool too, but he only makes appearances in a couple of games. Agahnim wasn't that great of an antagonist.

firebunnies123
03-17-2008, 07:17 PM
yeah i know ganon and ganondorf are the same person. Thats why I put it together. I never said ganon and ganondorf were different people. Also I never said Aghnaim was the main antagonist of alttp. I just said he was an antagonist. Same for zant.

zeypherlink
03-17-2008, 10:54 PM
yeah i know ganon and ganondorf are the same person. Thats why I put it together. I never said ganon and ganondorf were different people. Also I never said Aghnaim was the main antagonist of alttp. I just said he was an antagonist. Same for zant.
Yeah, I know. Just pointing it out to future people who might post here and get confused...then we have to Gannon-Ban them ;)


I would say Thunderbird and Shadow Link from AoL.
Hmm forgot about them. I didn't really like Thunderbird, but Shadow Link was cool.

small link
03-18-2008, 09:48 AM
what about the skull kid in mm? i don't know why but i thoght he was cool, but gannon is my absolute favorite of course

Onilink89
03-18-2008, 02:04 PM
what about the skull kid in mm? i don't know why but i thoght he was cool, but gannon is my absolute favorite of course

the mask made skullkid evil

but ame here, ganondorf is my fave, i love his evil laughter

Mehplep
03-18-2008, 05:17 PM
Even though the mask is the big antagonist in MM, I just need to pick Skull Kid. He just looks so pathetic to devastate Termina like that... well, he is pathetic. The Mask is the big thing... anywho, I like him as a antagonist. An unwilling antagonist, a puppet!

But mainly, it's because of his look. Without the Mask, he looks kind... but with the mask, oh gosh, teh evilness.

Smitie
03-18-2008, 05:38 PM
Ganondorf is my favourite. His evil looks and countless attempts to rule/destroy the world makes him the best antagonist.

zeypherlink
03-18-2008, 05:45 PM
what about the skull kid in mm? i don't know why but i thoght he was cool, but gannon is my absolute favorite of course
Just so you know, its spelled Ganon <.< (http://gannon-banned.com)

I wouldn't consider Skull Kid an antagonist, but Majora's Mask certainly is.

Josh
05-25-2008, 08:21 PM
1. Ganon/Ganondorf, always been a classic always will be. And completely and utterly fun to fight.

2. Vaati, haven't played many games with him, but still good from what I have.

3. Bellum, the most boring of them all. :(

Fierce_Deity
05-25-2008, 08:37 PM
Let us not forget Veran and Onox from the Oracle games. Veran was mischievous and exceptionally malevolent and evil. She utilized her powers, exploited Nayru and Queen Ambi, and committed various bad deeds, unlike the cliche and lackluster Onox, who sat in his castle (which was, in my opinion, much easier and more dull than the black tower) throughout the entire game, not making any appearances besides Din's kidnapping and the final battle. I can honestly say I could not recall his name or really remember what he looked like during my first playthrough of Oracle of Seasons until confronting him in his castle.

MrMosley
05-31-2008, 04:25 AM
Ganon as his pig/beast form. There are some drawings of Ganon fighting Link from the original games which make him just seam a lot more evil and demonic than him as a human. Aside from him, Dark Link is my favorite. His mysterious presence makes him a very memorable enemy.

Jirrup
05-31-2008, 05:39 PM
1. Ganon - He's the main man. None of the other villains have such devious things going for them.
2. Vaati - Though he was a pathetic blob in the Four Swords games, he's almost as wicked as Ganondorf in The Minish Cap. I'd love to turn people into hats for the hell of it.
3. Veran - As Fierce_Deity rightly pointed out, she's one of the most impressive villains there is.
4. Majora - The others desired for power, it desired for destruction. It also had a moon. However, it's second form was ridiculous.
5. Zant - More of a clown than Majora's Incarnation. He would've been quite high up had it not been for his anticlimactic fight. He was also a weak pawn of Ganon.
6. Onox - He sat in a castle and happily did jack s*** while Link restored Holodrum.
7. Bellum - Oh please. He's a squid. He sucks. He didn't really have much influence. It's not like he caused a kingdom to flood, be infested with monsters, have its ruler brainwashed, get hit by the moon, turn into perpetual twilight or have seasons out of place. He turned a whale into an old man. Speaking of whales...
8. Dethl - He wanted to take over an imaginary island ruled by a whale in a pink spotted egg. Pathetic. He also kept people alive by existing.

Chrono
05-31-2008, 05:48 PM
I say, if we can say the Mask then I say...the Triforce. As shown in ALttP is that it turns a lot of peoples greed against them whether it be turning them into a tree or whatnot. If it wasnt for the Triforce, we wouldnt have Ganon. So in that case, the piece of Power is more so.

Jirrup
05-31-2008, 05:52 PM
I say, if we can say the Mask then I say...the Triforce. As shown in ALttP is that it turns a lot of peoples greed against them whether it be turning them into a tree or whatnot. If it wasnt for the Triforce, we wouldnt have Ganon. So in that case, the piece of Power is more so.

While the tree point is valid, the Triforce is a neutral object. It's a relic that knows no good from evil. If it were a villain, it wouldn't go reviving dead people such as Link's Uncle and the King of Hyrule.

Chrono
06-01-2008, 07:45 PM
That was Links wish. I didnt say it was a villain, but it can be used for evil.

Forlong
06-01-2008, 11:16 PM
Agahnim. He was the second major Zelda villan I was introduced to. No prize for guessing who the first is.

El Bagu
07-15-2008, 06:18 AM
I really like Shadow Link, I think he is one of the main reasons I love Zelda so much! Dark Link would also be a favorite of mine if he had not been that easy to defeat, I succedded the first time (which maybe is normal?).

Twili123prince
07-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Vaati is one of my favorites but also zant.

Y2K3
07-15-2008, 03:13 PM
Seeing as how I've only faced 3 (Ganon(dorf), Majora, and Zant), it's not too hard a pick.
Ganon(dorf) wins, hands down. Though, the battles with Majora and Zant were fun, I have to say.

EponaOwns
07-15-2008, 04:52 PM
Skull kid!(He is a good dancer when you battle him)

Inflexus
07-15-2008, 09:13 PM
Skull Kid: Technically invincible in Ocarina of Time.

I wish the Zelda series had a Tonberry-esk character, because that would be better than any villain so far.

Chrono
07-16-2008, 02:37 AM
You never fought Skull Kid in OoT idiot.

Inflexus
07-16-2008, 05:15 PM
You never fought Skull Kid in OoT idiot.

Try when you walk in to where you learned Saria's song as an adult after the cucco guy has left. He'll either fight or run, depending on if you hit him or not. And his attack penetrates armor, I believe. He uses his flute for blow darts.

blackice_cc
09-09-2008, 07:18 PM
Ganondorf is the best, by far. He has the evil laugh, the insane evil power, the immortality, the ruthlessness of any up to par antagonist, etc. He's just the best, and the most classic.

Glided Sword
09-09-2008, 07:29 PM
Vaati is my favorite (if you couldn't tell).

Hylian Hobbit
09-09-2008, 07:49 PM
I gotta go with Ganondorf. You can't beat the classics.

Ace_Strife
09-10-2008, 12:02 PM
Ganondorf seemed so one dimensional, so I go with Vaati. His shallowness can be attributed to mind controlling of the cap whereas Ganondorf's got no excuse.

But then, vaati's a new age cliche... he's not this muscular, short-haired, upper class figure we saw in all the old games (such as ganondorf, the original bowser, bosses from fighting games and old rpgs such as the demon king from Dragon Warrior), but a silver haired, skinny, rather young and orphaned-as-a-kid figure who seeks power due to resentment...

I guess I like my cliches...

Stella3000
09-10-2008, 03:42 PM
I'd have to say Dark Link. I think Ganon is a bit overdone, and I don't really care for every one else. This is not to say I don't enjoy killing Ganon.

blackice_cc
09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Ganondorf seemed so one dimensional, so I go with Vaati. His shallowness can be attributed to mind controlling of the cap whereas Ganondorf's got no excuse.I guess I like my cliches...

Well, that's not completely true, he has the Triforce of power. I also did like Vaati, but only because it was something different. From your description, he sounds kind of like a Zelda Voldamort though, lol, which I suppose he kind of is. Anyways, I still like Ganondorf more.

Skull_Kid
09-22-2008, 08:19 AM
Vaati is cool:P
even though he looks a bit emo-ish in MC.
Bellum's not that bad..like his first form with all those squirming tentacles

LoZfan
09-23-2008, 09:51 AM
I thinhk a perfect group of antagonists would be Gannondorf and Vatti. with gannon's insane powers and vatti's shallowness, Hyrule would be in HELL

Inflexus
09-23-2008, 07:10 PM
I think they all play the same role, really. They exist to get triforce power and to use said power to dominate a population by force.

With that being said, Vaati of TMC was probably the best developed as a villain because he actually had motivation and a past, wheras Ganondorf, and Aganimh(sp?) did not.

Arkwright
09-24-2008, 10:39 PM
All the antogonists make things too hard for themselves, they make little bosses and dungeons that even some 10 year old kid can get through. They make themselves too predictable in terms of their weaknesses and what not.

I don't try to generally favor MM, but I think that Majora's Mask was the best because of it's un-predictability. I don't think it created the dungeons, followed Link on his quest, or anything like that. It just cursed the lands which in turn unleashed massive monsters, beasts, and allowed temples to unfold themselves into dungeons. The Majora's Mask then topped it off with controlling the moon to become homicidal.

At the end of the game, you enter an acid trip of a game by going inside of the moon and finding out it's all heavenly, and that the ginger kids running around a tree are figments of the skull kid's insecurities and anger. (Or something like that :P)

You then talk to this lonely kid wearing the Majora's Mask, who gives you the ability to turn into a demonic warrior and fight the Majora's Mask in 3 different forms.

So, I think I'll go with the Majora's Mask being my favorite Antagonist.

mastersword18
10-01-2008, 05:53 PM
def shadow link and ganon from oot was awesome but otha then that i luved zant i thought he was cool (until he took his mask off and started dancing)

Chris
12-07-2008, 02:33 PM
Athough I would agree that ganon is my favorite, I would say Vaati. Vaati was really cool and he was a hard boss. So I would say Vatti.

Kazumi
12-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Kay................................ Well il have to say Majoras Mask because in my opinion trying to crash the moon into Termina is more evil then anything Ganondorf or Vatti could have cooked up. Also he doesnt want power or to be a tyrant he just wants to destroy everything and take the lives of innocent people....... I like his style:evil: But really Zant was sad. It was like fighting a politicaly inccorect yoshimitsu. He really thought Ganondorf would give him ultimate power.:shake: Tsk Tsk Tsk

octorok74
12-09-2008, 08:48 PM
My favorite antagonist would be Vaati, because he seems kind of misled and he is pretty hard to.

Zeanith
12-10-2008, 04:20 AM
Majora. She's so pretty. And evil. Me loves her. MUA TO MAJORA!

Kitsu
12-10-2008, 11:21 PM
I'd have to say Majora. Majora was quite a unique, and even more sinister character than most other characters. I found it interesting how as you progressed in the battle, Majora would metamorphisise, in a way.

Kybyrian
12-10-2008, 11:26 PM
Majora, just like Kitsu said, Majora was quite unique and a good change to some of the other usuals. Plus, the different stages of the battle were pretty good. Probably the most mysterious, as well.

Master Kokiri 9
09-03-2009, 04:25 PM
My favorite main antagonist is ganon/dorf followed closely by zant and vaati. and then my fav lesser one is... CUCCOOS!! Seriously if you beat one up in any game aside from tp they will rape you until you die or you escape... an invincable enemy they are...

TVTMaster
09-03-2009, 09:46 PM
I'm sticking with Ganondorf. Specifically not Ganon- I can't stand the constant inexplicable cycle of revival and rebirth and reincarnation that stupid pig goes through. Ganondorf, though, was a pretty cool dude when he was alive. He ruled a tribe of desert harem Amazons, he had a freaking awesome sword (despite never really using it in OoT), and actually managed to take over the world. Sure, he was a jack---, but I mean, he was a villain. He had motive, though. Corrupted by power lust, yeah, but motive. Vaati was emo, Bellum was a squid, Veran and Onox were Twinrova's pawns, Agahnim was a generic evil wizard (who served Ganon), Nightmare was almost a good guy, Zant was a spoiled brat with power, and Majora was just plain nuts.

knowlee
09-03-2009, 10:42 PM
I find Ganondorf to be my favorite Zelda antagonist. My main reason why would be because I admire him for his determination. No matter how many times he keeps getting his butt kicked by Link and getting his goal prevented, he still keeps going for it. Sometimes it makes me almost want him to win for once, almost. :)

Keats
09-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Before Zant was revealed to be an immature psychopath under the influence of Ganondorf, he was the bomb.com.

Other than that, Vaati, pre-floating orb of death.

Twili Kid
09-03-2009, 11:12 PM
My favorite antagonist from the Zelda series is Zant he looked like he had such great power. He concured Hyrule castle without much of a fight. His helmet is what I think of when someone says Twilight Princess. The cutscene before his boss ruined it when I found out he was little more then a giant child with all his jumping and bending ect. and when I found out he got all his power from Ganondorf I just thought. Well he looks cool.

fredthehylian
09-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Vaati. He's a mage and mages are awesome. It's a shame Gannon had to kill him in FSA. But Vaati despite being my best Zelda villain, makes it not even close to the best villain.. who we should all know, and have been scarred/scared by it.

Werewolfy
09-18-2009, 09:00 PM
I thought Zant had a lot of potential until Nintendo ruined him. If it wasn't for that, I'd easily say he was my favorite. However, I can't say it, because of how he turned out to be. He ended up as a truly pathetic wanna-be bad guy.

Since it's not Zant, Ganondorf has to be my favorite. I hated his presence in TP, but I did like his beast form, too. He's the main bad guy, and owns the Triforce of Power. He's Link's arch nemesis, as they engage in battle after battle for Hyrule and Zelda. He has motive and power, and wants to obtain the Triforce and ultimately rule over Hyrule.

ironknuckle1
09-18-2009, 09:18 PM
Yes you also can't count Agahnim because he was also controlled by ganon

Ver-go-a-go-go
09-19-2009, 04:07 PM
Well, nothing beats good old fashion Ganon. Ganondorf is cool of course, but I always thought his beast form was much more intimidating and made for a better "unstoppable" boss. Not the mindless beast that we saw in OoT/TP/OoX, but rather the intelligent beast that we saw in the original LoZ and ALttP. This is why I'm really hoping, that if Zelda Wii truly is going to take place before all the others when the Master Sword was forged, that beast Ganon will return as mastermind villain again. I can only imagine what his ALttP form would look like in Wii graphics. That could really make the game crawl to the top for me.

Sparky
10-28-2009, 05:48 AM
Vaati.

Ganondorf is otherwise ALWAYS the villain role, and the others don't have enough longevity to survive past the first attempt.

Durion
10-28-2009, 02:48 PM
My favourite antagonist is Zant, Several people thought he sucked once you found out that he was just a desperate, weak psychopath. I think this is what made him so great, now if Ganondorf wasn't in the game I wouldn't like Zant that much because I would have preferred him to have consistancy with his personality throughout the game.

The next Antagonist would be Ganondorf for the pure fact that is him. He is evil, epic and an excellent final Boss to a game. His plans are perfect with that fact that he usually gains power of Hyrule through force. It just makes him an EPIC Antagonist :)...

Mikau94
11-03-2009, 11:47 AM
Ganon/Ganondorf is my favorite, but Majora's Mask was so awesome!

Emicon
11-03-2009, 05:24 PM
Ganondorf will forever be my favorite baddie. :) Even though he is just another incarnation of Ganon, there are things that make him stand out. For one, he is human. He has a backstory and a motive. His every move is calculated and his demeanor is always cool and menacing. He seems more serious than say, a big ol' pig swinging swords at you (don't get me wrong, I still wet my pants at the end of OoT). He just seems to have it more together than any of the other villains, and always causes the most devastation. o.o

Dungeon killer
11-03-2009, 06:45 PM
I have always liked Ganon/dorf as my favorite antagonist and no one can change my mind.

Shnappy
11-14-2009, 12:34 PM
My favorite was Zant. I just love his split personality. Throughout Twilight Princess, he's the sinister type of villain. He's very calm, but very aggressive and evil. It was cool to see him appear throughout the game. Unlike a lot of other games, it's not the kind of thing where you see him near the beginning of the game, and don't really see him any until the end of the game. Zant makes multiple reappearances, just making me anxious for the final battle with him. Once you final reach him, and are ready for the showdown, he goes ballistic. It really surprised me, how his personality completely flip flops in a matter of seconds and all the sudden he's this spastic madman. The fight was certainly enjoyable. I've heard it being criticized a lot, but I thought it was a ton of fun. It was a surprise to see all his variations of the previous bosses, but the one on one sword fight at the end was the best part. It was epic, to say the least, and I found it a bit challenging, at least compared to how easy the rest of the bosses in the game were. But of course, he wasn't the final boss, as most of us know. Ganondorf came in, and I'll say I liked the fights with him, but I would've prefered that Ganondorf had no appearance in this game, at least not as the final boss, because I think Zant would just be that much more awesome. The final battle would've been a lot better if it was him, because it would've been 5 times as amazing as the Zant battle that was the penultimate boss fight (or fourth to last, I guess). But the whole debate about Zant not being standalone would be in a different thread.

As we know, Ganondorf is the main villain in the Zelda series. And he is an awesome villain. Better than most villains in any Zelda game. The only reason people dislike him is because of the amount of games he appears in. And I'll admit that I like it when a different villain appears, because Ganondorf gets a bit old, as "classic" as he may be. He'd be my second favorite. I'm not sure as to whether I like Ganondorf better as Ganon or in his human form, but I'd never had a game where I fought one of them (except for maybe FSA) where I was disappointed in the fight. I guess that it's more fun to fight Ganondorf 1 on 1, like in TP and TWW, compared to a lot of the Ganon fights. But OoT Ganon has to be one of the most epic fights in Zelda history.

My third favorite is Majora, or rather Majora's Mask, or rather Skull Kid being taken over by Majora's Mask. MM is my favorite Zelda game, without a doubt. And Skull Kid being such a great villain under the evil of Majora's Mask attributes to the many reasons MM is my favorite Zelda game. It's really cool how he uses the moon to threaten the safety of Termina, rather than just being one of those villains that's like "I'm going to destroy the world! Haha! That's all there is to it! I'll just sit there and wait for you to fight me, and make it unclear why you need to kill me"! It's amazing how the Mask takes a curious creature and turns it into a monster. The fight(s) against the Mask were very fun, and where a really cool challenge without the Fierce Deity Mask.

Fourth would be Vaati. Vaati has appeared in a few Zelda games, being FS/A and TMC. And Vaati wasn't disappointing. In FS and FSA, we only saw Vaati as being this big, dark, heartless beast. He was pretty fun to fight, but was kind of dull at the same time. I liked TMC because it gave us a little background on who Vaati really is, and how he's got a similar physical buildup to Link. He seems like a weak character at first, but his greed turns him in to the monster that we see at the end of TMC and in FS/A. The fights with him were amazing in TMC, and the music made it pretty awesome too.

I haven't finished OoA or LA, so I don't really know much about Veran or Dethl (I think that's his name?). As for the other two, Onox and Bellum, I like them about the same. Onox was kind of dull, he only appeared right at the beginning, and then right at the end when you face him. Although I do think his appearance is pretty awesome, how he's this big general with golden armor. The fight was very fun and challenging, and it was cool to see him in his dragon form as well as his normal form. Though as a character, he's kind of dull, as we don't really know much about him throughout the game.

As for Bellum, he's (it's?) similar to Onox. We don't even know who he is until a few dungeons in to the game, and even then we don't know much about him other than him being evil. The final battle with him was kind of cool, I guess, in that we finally get to see him. The first phase of the battle was cool, in how it used the two screens to make the arena huge, to show how big Bellum was in proportion to Link. His little gooey minion things got annoying, especially later in the fight when they kept on falling and falling on you repeatedly. I liked the second phase better than the first phase, easily. I've stated before in multiple threads that I like one on one sword fights, and the one with Bellum was decent. There wasn't too much to it, but I'll say I enjoyed it, and didn't really find it too irritating.

Zant's an easy overall favorite for me though. It doesn't really seem that possible for him to make another appearance in any Zelda games, but anything could happen, really. I'd love to see him as another villain in a future title, especially if he appears as the final boss, rather than just an important villain working for the real final boss (in TP's case, Ganondorf).

Hayzer
11-14-2009, 12:42 PM
Ganondorf. He's just awesome. I prefer new age Ganondorf over old age Ganon. I just think the man (Gerudo, what have you) Ganondorf makes a much better villain than Ganon the Beast (Blue pig version), imo.

Also, he gives the series a darker feel, which I feel makes the games better. Ganon (Blue pig) makes the series more light-hearted, but I don't much like it.

I prefer Ganondorf and his ToP Ganon to be the best antagonist.

Dirty Link
12-06-2009, 06:52 PM
Ganondorf in OOT and Shadow/Dark Link in AoL. They really can do so much with him, hes badass. He appears a few times in the series and yet there is so little we know about him. Like if he was a hugee villian in a future game, that would be pretty cool. And OOT ganondorf over TP Ganondorf mainly because TP ganondorf didnt seem to bright. Like come on didnt he know that allowing link to gain power throughout the game wasnt going to work? He tried it like 100 years earlier. I think he was a bad twist to the game, at least in what he did.

Mii85
12-06-2009, 07:23 PM
Ganon/dorf and Zant. Zant would have been even better without freakout near ending, but overall he was still pretty cool.

Onox50
12-13-2009, 09:07 PM
From the very first time that I played Oracle of Season, I don't know why but I just loved Onox! :P

SamuraiOfShikah
12-13-2009, 10:52 PM
I personally liked Twinrova, they gave life to Ganon and they're each other's opposites.

elliotstriforce
12-21-2009, 04:36 PM
my favorite antagonist is... well it's a three way tie between vaati, ganondorf, and malledus.

billbot85
12-22-2009, 08:25 AM
Dark Link. He is the very image of Link himself, but evil. He is probably one of the most symbolic characters in the series, because he represents that Link must conquer himself if he is a true hero, just like how we must conquer ourselves for our well being (such as our fear, anxiety, self doubt, anger, hate, etc). By taking this dark side of Link and molding him into an actual evil entity, Link must fight himself.

Dark Link appeared as the final boss in AOF and as a midway boss in the Water Temple in OoT. I know he's made other appearances in other games, too