Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver(the Official Thread)

[Skull_Kid]

Yes, it has been confirmed by Nintendo, that, as a commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the second generation, they are going to remake both Gold and Silver.
They are scheduled to be released in the fall of 2009 in Japan, and early 2010 in Europe and USA.


Soul Silver Official Logo

http://www.vooks.net/images/pokemonsilverDS.jpg

Heart Gold official logo

http://www.vooks.net/images/pokemongoldDS.jpg


New elements will be added to the game to celebrate the return to the Johto region, the games graphics and sound will also receive a boost but we can’t imagine it’ll look too different from the latest Pokémon titles.

Discuss your thoughts here, and post any news here as well:)

You all remember this
http://www.pokefeeds.com/news/possible.jpg

Maybe they aren't fake, maybe those are the real covers. Maybe not.
Remember that in April's fool of 2007 or 2008 Nintendo showed a screenshot of the route where the pokécenter was in GS?Maybe the games have been in a beta state for some long time, or maybe they are even finished, and they're just holding on, because if they were released now, the sales of Platinum would go down, for sure

[ShellShocker]

Sounds great, I remember playing those games when I was just a little kid, and when I actually got my first game, which was Crystal version. I love that they are doing this, I wonder what consoles they are going to be on, and if there will be a Crystal remake.

I can't wait for this.

[Skull_Kid]

Sounds great, I remember playing those games when I was just a little kid, and when I actually got my first game, which was Crystal version. I love that they are doing this, I wonder what consoles they are going to be on, and if there will be a Crystal remake.

I can't wait for this.

They were announced for the NINTENDO DS, and, of course there won't be a Crystal remake, like there was no Yellow remake.
I didn't mention the platform because I thought it was unnecessary to.

But yes, Nintendo DS is gonna get two more awesome games, for those who complain about the lack of HARDCORE GAMES on it

[MrMosley]

I am definitely pumped about this. I have played all the Pokemon games so far, and have actually been quite into Diamond since its release, mainly for battling purposes. But I haven't really been a big fan of the game since GS. To me, those two titles, along with Crystal, were the highest points in Pokemon's history. I'm so glad they are remaking them. I just hope they do the originals justice.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Wow, I've been wondering why they would make Pearl/Diamond instead of re-making these two awesome games, but I guess I know why now. :P

I'm going to buy this as soon as I can without a doubt. The second generation is arguably my favorite in the series, and the possibilities with this game seem endless now that they have the much better DS to work with instead of the old GBC. This is definitely something to look forward to next year.

[Skull_Kid]

I am definitely pumped about this. I have played all the Pokemon games so far, and have actually been quite into Diamond since its release, mainly for battling purposes. But I haven't really been a big fan of the game since GS. To me, those two titles, along with Crystal, were the highest points in Pokemon's history. I'm so glad they are remaking them. I just hope they do the originals justice.

I completely agree. And the promise of extended storyline also excites me even more.
To make it fitting to FireRed and LeafGreen, I think that they're probably gonna add the Sevii Islands, as well.
These games may probably end up being the best pokémon games, ever!
I really wish to put my hands on them, and I don't care that the names sound a little funky.
The main reasons I've been hooked to Platinum are the online features, and the real time system, and this two games totally have that.
Maybe they'll even add up the Underground, and a Battle frontier. That would be totally awesome

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

I completely agree. And the promise of extended storyline also excites me even more.
To make it fitting to FireRed and LeafGreen, I think that they're probably gonna add the Sevii Islands, as well.
These games may probably end up being the best pokémon games, ever!
I really wish to put my hands on them, and I don't care that the names sound a little funky.
The main reasons I've been hooked to Platinum are the online features, and the real time system, and this two games totally have that.
Maybe they'll even add up the Underground, and a Battle frontier. That would be totally awesome

Not to mention that the Pokedex might actually be completable now if these two games are compatible with Pearl/Diamond (I can't imagine they wouldn't be). No more tiring trading sequences from XD and Colosseum for those three wolfs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh. We can get all five of them in this game. Like you said, the possibilities seem to be endless now.

[Skull_Kid]

Not to mention that the Pokedex might actually be completable now if these two games are compatible with Pearl/Diamond (I can't imagine they wouldn't be). No more tiring trading sequences from XD and Colosseum for those three wolfs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh. We can get all five of them in this game. Like you said, the possibilities seem to be endless now.

You could already capture the Legendary Beasts in FireRed and LeafGreen.Only one at a time.
But I think you'll be able to catch the three of them in-game, in these versions(in Fr and Lg you had the chance to capture only one, depending on your starter: Bulbasaur: Entei, Squirtle: Raikou, Charmander: Suicune).

As for Ho-Oh and Lugia, they'll be either both be capturable in each version, one at a lower level and the opposing bird at Lvl 70(à la Silver and Gold) or they'll be version exclusives.

This is definetely the DS game that will always be plugged on my DS:)

[Smitie]

I don't like the names of these remakes, but I'm curious how these new games will be. I hope they don't create more of those stupid pokemon you can only get in events and that the newer generations are not dominating the game.
I really liked the old silver/gold and I still play them sometimes. I liked the fact that you can go to kanto to explore a completly new world and if Nintendo also adds the hoen and sinnoh region i'm the happiest pokemonfan ever :P.

[Alder Dragon]

This is awesome, I've been thinking about this lately as well. I'll surely grab at least one of them :). It'd be nice if the DSi had downloadble pokemon games from the first 2 generations.

[DCMN]

The only generation I never played, it'll b great to finally play G/S. HeartGold is mine on release day. :D
While the names are growing on me, I can't help but think that SilverDusk/GoldDawn or GoldSky/SilverSea would of worked better.

[Onilink89]

To be honest, i saw this sorta coming because there where rumors that nintendo leaked some info about these remakes a long time ago.

Yeah its cool and all but, the main thing i don't like is that if i buy it, all of my Pokés are in Diamond. I wished they made a "Pokémon Box" for the wii. They made one for the GC a long time ago. It wasn't exactly a game but rather an expension to store your pokemon, with a few extra's.

[Master Link]

I'm psyched! I've been waiting for these ever since LF and FR can out for the Game Boy Advance. I loved those two games and played them to death trying to relive my Kanto experience. I really hope they hit the bulls eye with these games too. I think the titles are great, I have no problem with them as long as I get an awesome game with 16 gym badges. And I doubt that they are completed, or else i think they would be making the English versions and have a simultaneous release date before the winter holidays instead of releasing the US/European versions in '10. These games will be on my buying list for sure!


What version will everyone be buying? I will be buying Soul Silver.

[Kazumi]

:cry: It's may dream come true... I'll be going after Heart Gold, and my little brother is going after Soul Silver, you've got to live the full experience. And, I'm just as excited about the Kanto part of the game as I am about the Johto part. I've always wondered what Kanto and Johto would look like with Platinum graphics. Anyway, I'll be transferring all of the Pokemon I get from these two games to Platinum, it's my main game. Where I store all of my crap. I'm REALLY excited about this! YAY!!

[Y2K3]

It's for real? This is amazing news! I'll definately be getting one of them after they come out. I might end up getting HG simply because I own Gold. It'll make up for the fact that I probably won't be playing Gold much anymore since I have a DS.

[Skull_Kid]

To be honest, i saw this sorta coming because there where rumors that nintendo leaked some info about these remakes a long time ago.

Yeah its cool and all but, the main thing i don't like is that if i buy it, all of my Pokés are in Diamond. I wished they made a "Pokémon Box" for the wii. They made one for the GC a long time ago. It wasn't exactly a game but rather an expension to store your pokemon, with a few extra's.

Oni, there is already a Pokémon Box for the Wii, it's Called "My Pokémon Ranch, and it is a wiiware "game".



I don't like the names of these remakes, but I'm curious how these new games will be. I hope they don't create more of those stupid pokemon you can only get in events and that the newer generations are not dominating the game.
I really liked the old silver/gold and I still play them sometimes. I liked the fact that you can go to kanto to explore a completly new world and if Nintendo also adds the hoen and sinnoh region i'm the happiest pokemonfan ever :P.


I also don't like the names, but, who cares? Everyone knows they'll end up being called pokemon Gold DS and Silver DS. lol.
Celebii will be an event pokémon, most certainly. It has been an event pokémon since the beggining(unless in Japan, where it came in the Bonus Disc of pokémon Colosseum, if you pre-ordered it(we got Jirachi, who was also on Pokémon Channel), so, apart from that instance, it was only obtainable via event or cheating)

I will buy it as soon as it is released in the USA, and most certainly, I'll play the Japanese version in my flashcart

[MrMosley]

I also don't like the names, but, who cares? Everyone knows they'll end up being called pokemon Gold DS and Silver DS. lol.
Celebii will be an event pokémon, most certainly. It has been an event pokémon since the beggining(unless in Japan, where it came in the Bonus Disc of pokémon Colosseum, if you pre-ordered it

I'm really not so fond of the names either. I think they could have easily came up with something much better. But the "heart" and "soul" titles may come into play during the game once some extra stuff is added on. Maybe they consider Gold and Silver to be the "heart and soul" of Pokemon. At least I do, as they were my favorite games.

As for the Celebi thing, I was almost certain that you were able to catch one in the Japanese version of Crystal. You would do something like putting a GS ball into the Shrine in the Elix Forest. I know they took this feature out of the American release of the game, but you could still get a GS ball via Gameshark, though it didn't do anything.

I think they should add this feature to these new releases, and not make the pokemon as hard to catch. I mean really, how many people actually go to these events? What I done with Diamond is use an Action Replay to get the event items, then go catch the pokemon as I would if I had gotten the item from the event. But I believe it would be much better to acquire the item during gameplay, maybe after having to trade and item from a completed opposite version or something big like that.

[bellum]

I"ve never played Gold and Silver, but I do think these games will be wice as good as platinum. That is, if they stop making pokemon. 493 is enough.

[blackice_cc]

Oh man, I cannot wait for these. I had Pokemon Blue first, when I was really young, but I never really got into the games until I got Crystal. It was so awesome. There were so many things to do, it had awesome pokemon, and it's overall feel was just... awesome.

I played Leaf Green, but I must say, I wasn't extremely impressed with the updates. The Sevii Islands were ok, but that was the only really good update, besides the graphics. I certainly hope these games aren't just Gold and Silver with a few tweaks, but are only the same games in the loosest sense; by that I mean that they should keep the same area, and pokemon, but change up the plot and add in some more/new legendaries, and just change things up a bit.

[Onilink89]

Oni, there is already a Pokémon Box for the Wii, it's Called "My Pokémon Ranch, and it is a wiiware "game"

You serious?! I didn't knew that. Gotta google info about this one.
I hope you can transfer pokes with multiple game ID's to that.

Edit: OMG i looked for info at the official nintendo site, apperantly you can transfer from 8 different Game ID's.
Yay, now i may concider to buy Soulsilver or HeartGold. :D

And thnx for telling this Skull_Kid

[Kaynil]

Cheesy names needs a Boogey Dance!!

Man I am so excited about this as well. I can't hardly wait.
I know they are similar to remakes but but, still, having them with what pokémon has become in the latest games sounds awesome!

I only owned the Crystal version and I am so fond of it.

[Petman1325]

This is my favourite generation of Pokemon, and I can't wait for its release. I hope that it also comes with the Kanto league and not just the Johto. Plus, I don't need to see any plot addons, but I wouldn't mind them adding Nintendo Wifi or adding all the stuff cut out from the Kanto league. I'ed love the Bug Catching comptetition avilable for Wifi Multiplayer. However, I want to see 251 Pokemon, not 498. Perhaps the PokeGear can be on the bottom screen?

[LinkAlmighty]

I just heard about it earlier today on my fav Pokemon website (serebii.net) and I nearly jumped out of my chair.

Pokemon had almost lost me, while I love Platinum, I was seriously dreading the next 100 something Pokemon of the fifth gen. I had just resigned to only getting another Pokemon game if it were a game with all 4 lands and everything, possibly for Wii due to the amount of space this would require. But then they show this, and now they've got me again, darn you Gamefreak!

But anyways, I can't wait, I loved Gold (never had Silver) and since my Gold died, I've beem hoping for a remake. Hopefully they'll fix somethings up such as the dryness of Kanto and some other small things here and there.

I like the name SoulSilver, sounds profound. But HEARTGold?:huh: Seriously...Heart? I was hoping for something a bit more cool sounding, I don't really know where they got Heart from...and they even made a heart out of Ho-Ho's wings...I like what they did with Silver better. But that's just my humble opinion.

And I guess this means no Yellow remake for sure now...-.- oh well. I doubt there'll be a Crystal one though. But I'm still happy that Gold and Silver are finally getting remade and I hope it turns out great.

[Mercedes]

Silver was probably my favorite Pokemon of all; I dunno why, but I just enjoyed the game more than most. Even though my fav. Pokemans have been in the 3rd gen.

I personally can't wait for this game:

1 - Its a new Pokemans game!!

2 - I need some new games for my DS; badly...


:P

[Kazumi]

Hey everyone, as you may know "last night" was the Pokemon Variety Show. In Japan. And, they announced the exsistence of the games, again, and, showed us some images. Yay. Let us see.

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/newbark1.jpg
Here we see Gold walking around New Bark Town, with a Chikorita following him! Cool..

A couple other images of the same thing can be found here (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml).

Also, there is some artwork of the starters, which you can also find on that site. Cool, eh?

Images are from Serebii.net

[Shnappy]

I've been wanting something like this ever since Diamond and Pearl came out. I am probably gonna get Soulsilver right when it comes out, it is going to be a great game.

[Master Link]

Hey everyone, as you may know "last night" was the Pokemon Variety Show. In Japan. And, they announced the exsistence of the games, again, and, showed us some images. Yay. Let us see.

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/newbark1.jpg
Here we see Gold walking around New Bark Town, with a Chikorita following him! Cool..

A couple other images of the same thing can be found here (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml).

Also, there is some artwork of the starters, which you can also find on that site. Cool, eh?

Images are from Serebii.net
Is this what I think it is? You can have a Pokemon following you! This was one HUGE reason why I loved Yellow so much and I hope that we really can have Pokemon following us in HG and SS.

[Skull_Kid]

Yes, it seems that your starter follows you around, like in Yellow, wich I think it's very cute:)

Also, to give you more visual candies:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1524/tpicopokmon01.jpg

There's the rival, and New Bark looks just like in G/S/C.

and, here's a video, revealed at the Pokémon Sunday(10th of may)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q

Also, concerning the names, I really prefered the names that Nintendo originally copyrighted(Dusk Gold and Dawn Silver), but, I don't care about names, all I want is to play'em

[Vincent]

I don't like this. It's a cool idea and all, but it's more money I have to shell out.

[Skull_Kid]

I don't like this. It's a cool idea and all, but it's more money I have to shell out.

But is is money worth shelling out, imo...

I will get Soul Silver, for sure... they look amazing... as soon as there are more news, I will post them here

[LinkAlmighty]

I've got some weird news, from the magazine CoroCoro, they released some details about HG & SS, but the scans of it were not so clear. But an image of the male and female trainers was shown. What's weird is that while the male trainer is still Gold, the female trainer is no longer Crystal.

Here's the image from Serebii.net
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1085

As you can see, Gold is still here, but where's Crystal?

What do you think about this everyone?

[hsb39]

I told you people... A week in advance, no one believed me, I told you about the anouncement... *wimper*.

Wait... I can't be sad! Gold Silver Remake!!!


I don't like the names of these remakes, but I'm curious how these new games will be. I hope they don't create more of those stupid pokemon you can only get in events and that the newer generations are not dominating the game.
I really liked the old silver/gold and I still play them sometimes. I liked the fact that you can go to kanto to explore a completly new world and if Nintendo also adds the hoen and sinnoh region i'm the happiest pokemonfan ever :P.

They won't add new Pokemon, only possibly new forms.


You serious?! I didn't knew that. Gotta google info about this one.
I hope you can transfer pokes with multiple game ID's to that.

Edit: OMG i looked for info at the official nintendo site, apperantly you can transfer from 8 different Game ID's.
Yay, now i may concider to buy Soulsilver or HeartGold. :D

And thnx for telling this Skull_Kid

Yeah, Pokemon Ranch is much better than Box... and less expensive, the Mew is pretty awesome too.

I hope that HG/SS has a Rapid Spin Tutor, when the top then leads are Stealth Rock leads, you know that there is something wrong with the metagame.

@LinkAlmighty: About Serebii, it's the best news site, but beware, the competitive battle stuff (namely Pokemon of the Week), is pretty crappy, I can show you how they are pretty flawed, and a bit lazy with it if you want.

[Onilink89]

yeah Serebii, people who take the game serious (like EV training) visit that site.
They got a lot of serious information. Basicly they figured out the system of the pokemon games.

But pokemon of the week and other stuff, i don't check that out.
Most of the time i check the pokedex there and item locations.

[hsb39]

yeah Serebii, people who take the game serious (like EV training) visit that site.
They got a lot of serious information. Basicly they figured out the system of the pokemon games.

But pokemon of the week and other stuff, i don't check that out.
Most of the time i check the pokedex there and item locations.

Trust me, Serebii is essentially getting their competitive stuff from Smogon, and not doing it as well.

If you want to do it the serious way, smogon is the best by quite a bit. I should warn you though, they may be good, but not as good as they think that they are, as they are ridiculously pretentious and up themselves, somehow thinking that they are the greatest gift to the internet.

[Caleb, Of Asui]

This makes me pretty excited. I had sort of decided long ago that they wouldn't ever actually make this, but now they are and I'm happy! I have played and beaten at least one game from every generation except second; I was trying to play Crystal for that, but the save file doesn't work unless you go through the long process of replacing the battery that you probably can't find anywhere.


I wished they made a "Pokémon Box" for the wii. They made one for the GC a long time ago. It wasn't exactly a game but rather an expension to store your pokemon, with a few extra's.
They already did that. It's a WiiWare game called My Pokemon Ranch. You can download it for, I think, ten dollars. You can only return the Pokemon to the same game, though. I think they had to release some update to make it Platinum-compatible, so they might need another one that makes it compatible with HeartGold and SoulSilver.

[hsb39]

They already did that. It's a WiiWare game called My Pokemon Ranch. You can download it for, I think, ten dollars. You can only return the Pokemon to the same game, though. I think they had to release some update to make it Platinum-compatible, so they might need another one that makes it compatible with HeartGold and SoulSilver.

They may, but there is a good chance that they'll only do that if there are new forms.

[ShellShocker]

They were announced for the NINTENDO DS, and, of course there won't be a Crystal remake, like there was no Yellow remake.
I didn't mention the platform because I thought it was unnecessary to.

But yes, Nintendo DS is gonna get two more awesome games, for those who complain about the lack of HARDCORE GAMES on it

Oh, sorry I didn't know. >.<
Well, thanks for the information. And yes, I agree with you there Smitie, I hate all that "Only event Pokemon", espically since there are no events in Australia. >_<

The walking around with Pokemon behind you looks cool by the way. ^^

@Serebii stuff: Yeah, serebii is a pretty good Pokemon site, except it is a bit too crowded.

[hsb39]

Oh, sorry I didn't know. >.<
Well, thanks for the information. And yes, I agree with you there Smitie, I hate all that "Only event Pokemon", espically since there are no events in Australia. >_<

The walking around with Pokemon behind you looks cool by the way. ^^

@Serebii stuff: Yeah, serebii is a pretty good Pokemon site, except it is a bit too crowded.

Another Ozzy! Yay, we exist! And you feel my eventless pain as well (although recently it's been the best, we got Manaphy and Darkrai).

Serebii is still pretty flawed on the POTW, when there are already guides out there with more stuff, they know about smogon, and could have at least read the smogon article.

[Smitie]

I was wondering something. What happens when your starter evolves? I can remember if pikachu evolved into raichu it didn't follow you anymore.

@shellshocker: There was 1 darkrai event here, but then I had to go to a themepark (and pay a 28 euro ticket!) and stand in a line of young kids for hours to get a stupid pixle animal. The total embarresment of being at a pokemon event at the age of 19 is too much for me :P. I rather have super rare pokemon in the game that randomly appear in the land like entei or raikou

[hsb39]

I was wondering something. What happens when your starter evolves? I can remember if pikachu evolved into raichu it didn't follow you anymore.

@shellshocker: There was 1 darkrai event here, but then I had to go to a themepark (and pay a 28 euro ticket!) and stand in a line of young kids for hours to get a stupid pixle animal. The total embarresment of being at a pokemon event at the age of 19 is too much for me :P. I rather have super rare pokemon in the game that randomly appear in the land like entei or raikou

You've never seen a comp have you? 19 isn't old there.

I should note that Darkrai has a huge impact on the Uber metagame (#2 Lead after Speed Deoxys), where Entei and Raikou don't have that much impact (well... if Raikou is let into UU Substitute Calm Mind sets create havok). Entei is outclassed by a lot of other Fires.

[ShellShocker]

I was wondering something. What happens when your starter evolves? I can remember if pikachu evolved into raichu it didn't follow you anymore.
Yeah, that's why I kept my Pikachu, well, at least till it learnt Thunder. Maybe the Pokemon first in your party will follow you.



@shellshocker: There was 1 darkrai event here, but then I had to go to a themepark (and pay a 28 euro ticket!) and stand in a line of young kids for hours to get a stupid pixle animal. The total embarresment of being at a pokemon event at the age of 19 is too much for me :P. I rather have super rare pokemon in the game that randomly appear in the land like entei or raikou
Haha! I can just imagine you standing over all these little kids angrily waiting in a line. :P

[Skull_Kid]

I've got some weird news, from the magazine CoroCoro, they released some details about HG & SS, but the scans of it were not so clear. But an image of the male and female trainers was shown. What's weird is that while the male trainer is still Gold, the female trainer is no longer Crystal.

Here's the image from Serebii.net
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1085

As you can see, Gold is still here, but where's Crystal?

What do you think about this everyone?


I don't like the look of the female trainer... she looks dorky...
It's amazing how the game is still so faraway, maybe even more than Spirit Tracks, but there's much more info going around. Spirit Tracks seems completely forgotten, by now.

Anyways, I have Darkrai's to distribute, as well as the Toys'r'us Regigas, some 10th anniversary pokémon, some from Ranch, and some pokémon from other parties and conventions.
I am willing to trade'em.

On a side note...

It has been confirmed that Kanto will be in!
The Release date in Japan is 11 of September
There will be a Platinum-like GTS


and here's a bigger scan, look at the screenshots on the back

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00008.jpg


Another edit:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00022.jpg
Pichu seems to be following you... maybe the first pokémon in your party follows you, the game seems really cute

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00016.jpg

[LinkAlmighty]

Actually, Serebii.net confirmed that September 11th is a fake date, as well as the rumored use of a skateboard is also fake. What has now been shown is the touchscreen for HGSS.

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1087

As you can see, it appears that not just the Pokegear is on here, but rather the entire menu, from Pokemon to Options, so it seems that at this point all the menu features including the Pokegear (which is not shown yet because the image is probably before you get it) will be all touched based.

That seems pretty cool to me, this way I won't have to remember that the menu is the X button and not start, and I won't have to look at the time all the time llike with the watch in D/P/Pt.

And yes, these games seem to be dishing out more info, and recieving more hype than Spirit Tracks, which just shows how popular the 2nd gen was.

[Skull_Kid]

Actually, Serebii.net confirmed that September 11th is a fake date, as well as the rumored use of a skateboard is also fake. What has now been shown is the touchscreen for HGSS.

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1087

As you can see, it appears that not just the Pokegear is on here, but rather the entire menu, from Pokemon to Options, so it seems that at this point all the menu features including the Pokegear (which is not shown yet because the image is probably before you get it) will be all touched based.

That seems pretty cool to me, this way I won't have to remember that the menu is the X button and not start, and I won't have to look at the time all the time llike with the watch in D/P/Pt.

And yes, these games seem to be dishing out more info, and recieving more hype than Spirit Tracks, which just shows how popular the 2nd gen was.

I always thought that the release date was suspicious...
And they're probably gonna be released before Spirit Tracks(I hope they don't release the 3 of them in the same month, or I'll go berserk)

There have also been rumours of a skateboard, and I'm 99% sure they're fake.
That kind of rumours also appeared before Gold/Silver were released, and the person who started it was a moron, for sure.

I like how the touch screen is used for the main menu, it gives the games real smoothness of control, imo

[zeldafreak]

I heard about them a while ago on Serebii.net.
I really would like to play the old Pokemon games, so I guess I am a little excited.
I haven't really researched much about it though. I should start doing that now. ^_^

[Skull_Kid]

I heard about them a while ago on Serebii.net.
I really would like to play the old Pokemon games, so I guess I am a little excited.
I haven't really researched much about it though. I should start doing that now. ^_^

Well, here am I, with tons of new stuff to tell


-The starters will be the same as in G/S/C, but, later in the game, you will be able to get one of the Kanto starters and one of the Johto starters

-Johto and Kanto pokémon will receive new sprites and animations

-There will be double battles, in wich you tag along with other characters, like Lance and your rival

-There will also be a wireless underground area

-New key items, as well as the return of some old ones

-Honey Trees will replace the old Headbutt trees

-Besides the Bug catching contest, there will also be a Fishing contest

-The 3 legendary beasts will roam Johto after being released from Ecruteak tower, and the 3 legendary birds will roam Kanto after being released in a special room of the Victory road, only accessble by a kanto road

-Celebi will be obtained through in-game location, wich will be accessible through a future event(like Darkrai and the rest)

-Unlike G/S/C, the Red Gyarados will not be captured by the player, but by Lance

-Both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be able to be caught in both versions, being the version's pet at level 40, and the other, only available after beating the League, at Level 70

-When Prof.Elm gives you the SS Anne Ticket, he will let you choose one of the Kanto starters, wich will be at Level 10, and, after beating Red on Mt. Silver, he will let you choose one of the Hoenn starters at Level 10, as well

-The Cerulean Cave will be open, and Mewtwo will be there at level 70

-Much Like FR/LG, an Image of the area will appear when you enter a new area for the first time

here are some screenshots

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/d/db/Screen5.png

Sprout Tower "Presentation" screen´

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/a7/Screen4.png

The Slowpoke well

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/5/57/Screen1.png

Choosing a starter

I found this on a Youtube video, and there is 99% of this being true

[Master Link]

-The starters will be the same as in G/S/C, but, later in the game, you will be able to get one of the Kanto starters and one of the Johto starters
This makes me very happy! It will open the game more and let people get more of a "Kanto feel"


-Honey Trees will replace the old Headbutt trees
I never liked the honey trees, but I LOVED the headbut trees. :(


-Unlike G/S/C, the Red Gyarados will not be captured by the player, but by Lance
This upsets me, owning the Red Gyarados was one of my favorite things in the game.


-When Prof.Elm gives you the SS Anne Ticket, he will let you choose one of the Kanto starters, wich will be at Level 10, and, after beating Red on Mt. Silver, he will let you choose one of the Hoenn starters at Level 10, as well


Wouldn't it be awesome if you could travel to Hoenn after that? :)


Thanks so much for informing us with all the news! I'm too lazy to go and find it myself :P

[LinkAlmighty]

Well, here am I, with tons of new stuff to tell


-The starters will be the same as in G/S/C, but, later in the game, you will be able to get one of the Kanto starters and one of the Johto starters

-Johto and Kanto pokémon will receive new sprites and animations

-There will be double battles, in wich you tag along with other characters, like Lance and your rival

-There will also be a wireless underground area

-New key items, as well as the return of some old ones

-Honey Trees will replace the old Headbutt trees

-Besides the Bug catching contest, there will also be a Fishing contest

-The 3 legendary beasts will roam Johto after being released from Ecruteak tower, and the 3 legendary birds will roam Kanto after being released in a special room of the Victory road, only accessble by a kanto road

-Celebi will be obtained through in-game location, wich will be accessible through a future event(like Darkrai and the rest)

-Unlike G/S/C, the Red Gyarados will not be captured by the player, but by Lance

-Both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be able to be caught in both versions, being the version's pet at level 40, and the other, only available after beating the League, at Level 70

-When Prof.Elm gives you the SS Anne Ticket, he will let you choose one of the Kanto starters, wich will be at Level 10, and, after beating Red on Mt. Silver, he will let you choose one of the Hoenn starters at Level 10, as well

-The Cerulean Cave will be open, and Mewtwo will be there at level 70

-Much Like FR/LG, an Image of the area will appear when you enter a new area for the first time

here are some screenshots

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/d/db/Screen5.png

Sprout Tower "Presentation" screen´

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/a7/Screen4.png

The Slowpoke well

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/5/57/Screen1.png

Choosing a starter

I found this on a Youtube video, and there is 99% of this being true

Can you post a link to where you got this? It seems a bit fishy to me because where did this source get all this information? I've looked around and no other site seems to have this much info on these games. Also seeing as this came from a youtube video, which is notorious for people posting fake info, makes me feel more uncertain about its authanticity.

However, some of it does seem true or likely, and the pictures were in the magazine CoroCoro, which means that those are at least real.

I like most of this info and it does seem likely. Hope they fix up Kanto though. But what I don't like is how you won't get the Gyrados, and I don't think they'd change it up like that, so I think there's a good chance that won't happen. And I pray that the Honey Trees don't replace the Headbutt trees, this is a remake of Gold and Silver, not D/P/Pt, so the honey trees should stay out.

I did find something though, it was on youtube so I don't know if it is real or not, but it does look pretty real.

This is the Johto map as seen in the video.
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1098

If you look at the bottom, you'll notice a small island near Azalea Town and a large island in the bottom corner. What could these be, and do you think this is real or fake?

[Kybyrian]

I've known about this for a while, everybody thought it was just a rumor, but now it's confirmed. I can't wait for 2010. A while off, but I'm willing to wait for it. This will be awesome. I loved G/S, they were two of my favorite Pokemon games, probably 2nd beside Platinum.

And I don't think it's fake, LinkAlmighty. Sure, they're remaking it, but that doesn't mean they can't change it up a little bit.

[Onilink89]

Damn after this comes out, Pokemon Battle Revolution is going to be a lot of active again.
Damn I need to get my wifi fixed before this games comes out.

There is one question for me left, will lugia have Psyco Boost like in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness. I really hope it does.

But yeah, if this game has both Jotho and Kanto, then its a game worth to buy.

[Skull_Kid]

Can you post a link to where you got this? It seems a bit fishy to me because where did this source get all this information? I've looked around and no other site seems to have this much info on these games. Also seeing as this came from a youtube video, which is notorious for people posting fake info, makes me feel more uncertain about its authanticity.

However, some of it does seem true or likely, and the pictures were in the magazine CoroCoro, which means that those are at least real.

I like most of this info and it does seem likely. Hope they fix up Kanto though. But what I don't like is how you won't get the Gyrados, and I don't think they'd change it up like that, so I think there's a good chance that won't happen. And I pray that the Honey Trees don't replace the Headbutt trees, this is a remake of Gold and Silver, not D/P/Pt, so the honey trees should stay out.

I did find something though, it was on youtube so I don't know if it is real or not, but it does look pretty real.

This is the Johto map as seen in the video.
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1098

If you look at the bottom, you'll notice a small island near Azalea Town and a large island in the bottom corner. What could these be, and do you think this is real or fake?

I'm sorry to make you a sad panda, but that map is confirmed to be fake.

And there's one huge reason to tell it just by looking at it.
The Green Dots. They simply don't exist in any GEN4 game, and I don't think that there's a reason to add them now.

I randomly found the video on youtube, but the guy claimed that he had inside information, and, none of the info sounds too absurd that it can't be true, imo.

I might consider getting Battle Revolution, with all those awesome Pokémon Games running around.

This week's Pokémon sunday didn't give away any great news, wich kinda disappointed me.

[Onilink89]

I'm sorry to make you a sad panda, but that map is confirmed to be fake.

And there's one huge reason to tell it just by looking at it.
The Green Dots. They simply don't exist in any GEN4 game, and I don't think that there's a reason to add them now.

I randomly found the video on youtube, but the guy claimed that he had inside information, and, none of the info sounds too absurd that it can't be true, imo.

I might consider getting Battle Revolution, with all those awesome Pokémon Games running around.

This week's Pokémon sunday didn't give away any great news, wich kinda disappointed me.

There was only one green dot on D/P if i'm not mistaken. That was Pal Park.
I really would reccomend Battle Revolution, it was already awsome when D/P was fresh and now with platinum and later these two titles, the wifi is going to be active again.

One cool thing about this wifi is that you can battle without friend codes.

But yeah i currently have problems with my wifi. I can get online and get a full connection, but when communcaiting with someone, the connection drops and i get an error code. I already tried manual setup and disbled my firewall. Gotta call the hotline because i don't know what to do anymore. :kawaii:

[Skull_Kid]

There was only one green dot on D/P if i'm not mistaken. That was Pal Park.
I really would reccomend Battle Revolution, it was already awsome when D/P was fresh and now with platinum and later these two titles, the wifi is going to be active again.

One cool thing about this wifi is that you can battle without friend codes.

But yeah i currently have problems with my wifi. I can get online and get a full connection, but when communcaiting with someone, the connection drops and i get an error code. I already tried manual setup and disbled my firewall. Gotta call the hotline because i don't know what to do anymore. :kawaii:

Yes, and I don't think that they'll use that much the green dots.
Probably only for the Pal Park of this game(of course that there'll be one).

Anyways, battle revolution has more to do with the Stadium Series than it does with Colosseum, right?

I haven't read much about the game, because it never really interested me that much

[Onilink89]

Yes, and I don't think that they'll use that much the green dots.
Probably only for the Pal Park of this game(of course that there'll be one).

Anyways, battle revolution has more to do with the Stadium Series than it does with Colosseum, right?

I haven't read much about the game, because it never really interested me that much

Yes, its more like stadium rather then colloseum or XD gale of darkness.
And you don't transfer your pokemon here, you copy all boxes and of course your party.
And you can update as many times you want, but only with one ID game cartridge. But luckly there is four accounts so that makes four different games.

You can even save your trainer card on your wii remote.
Here the trainer card is your customized trainer and 6 pokemon.

But you will love the game. Because this is the first 3d pokemon game that actually makes psyhical contact with certain attacks. The animation and effects are outstanding.

[hsb39]

Skull Kid... How are you getting your info, hardly any of that stuff is on Serebii!

For example the thing about Red Gyarados, that isn't on Serebii. But that is good for me, I have a Shiny Magikarp.

And I was a little disappointed by PBR, it's WiFi should have been better and the Collusseum mode only got good after a couple of hours, and then it wasn't as good as I'd hoped.

[Skull_Kid]

Skull Kid... How are you getting your info, hardly any of that stuff is on Serebii!

For example the thing about Red Gyarados, that isn't on Serebii. But that is good for me, I have a Shiny Magikarp.

And I was a little disappointed by PBR, it's WiFi should have been better and the Collusseum mode only got good after a couple of hours, and then it wasn't as good as I'd hoped.

If you read the post, to the end, you'd understand.

@Oni-If I find a used copy of it, I might buy it, and, since I'm getting a lot into pokémon again, I'll probably buy it.
The Thing is, I only wanted to buy the main games, but I already bought Channel and a friend gave me the disc of Pokémon Box(the bastard threw away the box, and only kept the disc-.-)

[DCMN]

Well, here am I, with tons of new stuff to tell


-The starters will be the same as in G/S/C, but, later in the game, you will be able to get one of the Kanto starters and one of the Johto starters

-Johto and Kanto pokémon will receive new sprites and animations

-There will be double battles, in wich you tag along with other characters, like Lance and your rival

-There will also be a wireless underground area

-New key items, as well as the return of some old ones

-Honey Trees will replace the old Headbutt trees

-Besides the Bug catching contest, there will also be a Fishing contest

-The 3 legendary beasts will roam Johto after being released from Ecruteak tower, and the 3 legendary birds will roam Kanto after being released in a special room of the Victory road, only accessble by a kanto road

-Celebi will be obtained through in-game location, wich will be accessible through a future event(like Darkrai and the rest)

-Unlike G/S/C, the Red Gyarados will not be captured by the player, but by Lance

-Both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be able to be caught in both versions, being the version's pet at level 40, and the other, only available after beating the League, at Level 70

-When Prof.Elm gives you the SS Anne Ticket, he will let you choose one of the Kanto starters, wich will be at Level 10, and, after beating Red on Mt. Silver, he will let you choose one of the Hoenn starters at Level 10, as well

-The Cerulean Cave will be open, and Mewtwo will be there at level 70

-Much Like FR/LG, an Image of the area will appear when you enter a new area for the first time

here are some screenshots

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/d/db/Screen5.png

Sprout Tower "Presentation" screen´

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/a7/Screen4.png

The Slowpoke well

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/5/57/Screen1.png

Choosing a starter

I found this on a Youtube video, and there is 99% of this being true

To be honest, I've seen a lot of the stuff written at the top on the Serebii forums in a speculative manor. So yeah, I doubt how valid they actually are.

[Skull_Kid]

I posted them, and, if you read at the end, I warn that they might not be 100% accurate, but, none of them is too absurd to be fake.

And of course that Kanto will be in, due to hints given by our friend, Prof.Oak, that says that there's a white rock in kanto, similar to the one that's in Shinnoh(the white rock that leads to the Shaymin event)

I can't wait for them to come out, and I've been playing Silver:P

[Alter]

Yes, I still remember receiving Yellow version as a gift when I was a kid. I remember getting Silver a few years later. I think G&S were my favorite generations of Pokemon. I'm definitely going to get my hands on Soul of Silver.

One of the incredible things about Pokemon, is that it is always fun to play the new games. Can't say the same thing about the anime show, though. ;) I can't believe they've kept it up for this long. o.O

But yes, I'm certainly looking forward to getting this game. I'm sure that they've been planning this for a while. The reasons that they don't want to release it yet are 1) It will hurt Platinum's sales, and 2) they're waiting for the 10th anniversary.

I'll bet Alpha versions start popping up online in the next few weeks. :lol:

Well, thanks for thje news update! I'm pretty stoked over here!

[Skull_Kid]

Yes, I still remember receiving Yellow version as a gift when I was a kid. I remember getting Silver a few years later. I think G&S were my favorite generations of Pokemon. I'm definitely going to get my hands on Soul of Silver.

One of the incredible things about Pokemon, is that it is always fun to play the new games. Can't say the same thing about the anime show, though. ;) I can't believe they've kept it up for this long. o.O

But yes, I'm certainly looking forward to getting this game. I'm sure that they've been planning this for a while. The reasons that they don't want to release it yet are 1) It will hurt Platinum's sales, and 2) they're waiting for the 10th anniversary.

I'll bet Alpha versions start popping up online in the next few weeks. :lol:

Well, thanks for thje news update! I'm pretty stoked over here!


I don't think that'll hurt Platinum's sales that much, but, I know several people who are refraining from buying Platinum to save money for this.
I already have Platinum on a Flashcart, and I've done lots of Trades, have lots of 10th anniversary pokémon, etc, but I'm gonna buy platinum, because I want the Giratina Figure(it's awesome, google for it), and, I'm looking forward to own all Pokémon Maingames.

I'm surprised that in the last few days, there haven't been any news, maybe we have to wait until Sunday again

[Skull_Kid]

Sorry for the Double Post, but there are some news, even though they are small:

Like in Platinum, HG/SS will have some changes from the original versions, so here is one, that got a few more details:

In Japan, during the release of the 12th movie, there will be distributed Arceus and a special event Pichu, that, if traded to HG/SS will trigger an event in Ilex forest, near the Celebi shrine, where the (in)famous "Notched-Ear" Pichu will appear.
Not much is known about it, but, I thought it would be nice to share this info.

On a sidenote, to all Europeans owners of Platinum, from the 8th of June to the 19th of July there will be a Wi-Fi mistery gift event to give players the Secret Key, key item necessary to unlock the Rotom room in the Eterna Galactic HQ, where you can change Rotom's forms, and it also provides a little in-depth info on Charon and Rotom.

[hsb39]

SK, do you think that the event will include Australia? We often have similar release dates to Europe, so we may have events at the same time.

I really think that we should have a competitive Pokemon thread, people are starting to get into Pokemon now.

[Durion]

I am definatly going to get this gam some time this year but to be honest, I don't know if I will bother if it is like Pokemon Yellow where Pikachu refused to evolve. I found that quite annoying. I want to have a evovled form of my chosen starter.

[Smitie]

I really think that we should have a competitive Pokemon thread, people are starting to get into Pokemon now.

You can post your pokemon friend code in the Official Wii/DS Friend Codes Thread (http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4073). Your friendcode will be added in the list and people can PM you for trading friendcodes. I don't think a competitive pokemon thread is nessecary here. There are a lot of pokemon forums were these kind of threads are much more useful

About Soulsilver/Heargold. I hope that the third/fourth generation isn't too dominant. I never played Firered/Leafgreen, so I don't know how dominant the other generations were. I still want to know what happens if the starter evolves. Will it still follow the trainer (a bit like the pokemon follow you in pokemon ranger) or will it be back in a pokeball like the other pokemon?

[Onilink89]

You can post your pokemon friend code in the Official Wii/DS Friend Codes Thread (http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4073). Your friendcode will be added in the list and people can PM you for trading friendcodes. I don't think a competitive pokemon thread is nessecary here. There are a lot of pokemon forums were these kind of threads are much more useful

Smitie is right, i made that thread specificly to avoid confusion while adding other members.
It has a clear system so post your pokemon FC in that thread.
One other advantage is, if a person asks for your FC in the Shoutbox, you can copy and paste it from this thread. Its really annoying to always check Pal Pad and type every single number.

[Skull_Kid]

SK, do you think that the event will include Australia? We often have similar release dates to Europe, so we may have events at the same time.

I really think that we should have a competitive Pokemon thread, people are starting to get into Pokemon now.

You have to try to find it in the Nintendo website.
But it will probably have similar dates.

On-Topic again: another Pokémon Sunday without any relevant news(no news at all concerning the games):(
I am really anxious to get them.
And I hope that there's a Battle Frontier-like area, because that would add much to the game

[hsb39]

You can post your pokemon friend code in the Official Wii/DS Friend Codes Thread (http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4073). Your friendcode will be added in the list and people can PM you for trading friendcodes. I don't think a competitive pokemon thread is nessecary here. There are a lot of pokemon forums were these kind of threads are much more useful


Smitie is right, i made that thread specificly to avoid confusion while adding other members.
It has a clear system so post your pokemon FC in that thread.
One other advantage is, if a person asks for your FC in the Shoutbox, you can copy and paste it from this thread. Its really annoying to always check Pal Pad and type every single number.

I was mainly refering to discussion, rather than battling, and I do know that other forums do discuss (I'm there), but I still don't see any reason why this forum can't discuss as well, Pokemon forums tend to be very exclusive of anyone who doesn't know what exactly what they are talking about.

[Skull_Kid]

I was mainly refering to discussion, rather than battling, and I do know that other forums do discuss (I'm there), but I still don't see any reason why this forum can't discuss as well, Pokemon forums tend to be very exclusive of anyone who doesn't know what exactly what they are talking about.

That's true, I'm on Serebiiforums and I tend to see that...
Well, I guess there's no harm in talking about pokémon(in the proper threads or social groups), but please, don't keep going off-topic, this thread is about Heart Gold and Soul Silver

[mewtwolord]

For a long time before the announcement of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions, it was believed by many that remakes of Pokémon Gold and Silver would be produced and released during Generation IV on the Nintendo DS.

The possibility of these remakes took their precedent from the release of Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, Generation III versions of the Generation I Pokémon Red and Green, which were released in 2004. Based upon FireRed and LeafGreen being nearly exactly the same as Red and Green as far as storyline goes, the assumed storyline of the remakes would thus follow Gold and Silver very closely, with the player starting in New Bark Town and traveling across Johto, and later Kanto. Though disputed for a long time, these suspicions were finally confirmed with the announcement of the remakes themselves in May of 2009.
SOME HINTSGeneration III
Shortly after the release of the remakes of Generation I's paired versions in 2004, some fans began to expect a second pair of remakes, this time of the Generation II games, as, like Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow, Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal were incompatible with the then-current Generation III. Unsubstantiated rumors and theories began to spread around forums online, and some fans went as far as to make hacks of Generation III games to "remake" Gold and Silver. On April Fool's day, 2004, Pkmn.Net showed faked screenshots depicting the Daycare on Route 34 in a remake, claiming that the screenshots came from CoroCoro.

Those who wished for remakes also pointed to allusions to Gold and Silver in Generation III's five games. For instance, Giovanni is revealed by a Rocket Scientist in the Sevii Islands to have a red-haired child, widely speculated to be the Generation II rival, Silver, while Bill's information in the Fame Checker mentions his hometown of Goldenrod City.

Notably, however, FireRed and LeafGreen were used to provide many Generation II Pokémon to Generation III games, as most were missing from the Hoenn Dex (and thus not available without trading in Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire), while the only Generation III Pokémon available were Azurill and Wynaut, themselves breedable from Generation II's Marill and Wobbuffet. An NPC even gives away a Togepi egg, as Elm does in Generation II, and aside from Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD, this is the only way to get many of these species.

Generation IV
Despite the theories of the many, the time of the Game Boy Advance passed, and Generation III ended without a remake. With Generation IV and the Nintendo DS, however, those who were not discouraged transferred their theories, speculating for a remake that would be released some time after Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Like in Generation III, several mentions are made during the course of Sinnoh's games, some more obvious than others, of events and locations in Generation II. Examples of this include a news report of the red Gyarados, Jasmine's appearance in Sunyshore City, an explicit mention of Professor Elm and his report about eggs, Cynthia's SecretPotion (which mentions Cianwood City in its bag description, as it did in Generation II), Bebe's friend from Johto who has many Eevee (possibly Bill considering their similar line of work), and the man in the Hotel Grand Lake who mentions Ho-Oh's roost of the Tin Tower and Lugia's home of the Whirl Islands and the fact that Clefairy dance on Monday night in Mt. Moon.

The only concrete clue, however, was hidden, in-game data for the locations displayed on a Pokémon's status screen. While a Pokémon caught in Sinnoh will display the area it was caught in, and Pokémon sent from Generation III via Pal Park display "Hoenn" or "Kanto", depending on the game in which they were originally caught, the data also includes "Johto", at the time inaccessible through any means.

Speculation
Alongside the more concrete references listed above, there are a few "hints" theorists have pointed out that are far more speculative. Some examples follow:

The Park Balls are gold and silver in color, with a light blue band across their middle. This may represent Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
Like in Gold and Silver, the rival of Diamond and Pearl can be battled twice a week on certain days after the final static battle with him.
Gold and Silver introduced two new Eevee evolutions, Espeon and Umbreon, and a Porygon evolution, Porygon2; likewise, Generation IV introduced Glaceon, Leafeon and Porygon-Z.
Sweet Honey, an item in Sinnoh that can catch Pokémon in certain trees, was initially a concept meant to be included in Gold and Silver, but replaced with Headbutt.
In Pokémon Platinum, the legendary birds were found roaming Sinnoh after the player has beaten the Elite Four. As a result, the legendary beasts are currently the only legendary trio not available through a Generation IV game, and could be supplied by a remake.
It should be noted that Gold and Silver never explained what became of the legendary birds. Players were left to assume that the birds fled after their respective "nests" were disturbed by Red three years earlier, or were caught by the same. As Generations II and IV are concurrent, we can now assume that the trio fled to the Sinnoh region, and therefore, their absence could be better maintained in a remade Gold and Silver.
When presented with Oak's Letter, Professor Oak states that the white rock on Route 224 in Sinnoh has a counterpart in Kanto. There has been no appearance of a white rock in the Kanto region, though a smaller white rock is seen in Mossdeep City in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. Kanto's white rock could be a Generation IV addition that would appear in a remake leading to the Shaymin event (much as Pokémon Emerald included Navel Rock and Birth Island to capture Ho-Oh, Lugia, and Deoxys).
There are unused sprites for Shellos and Gastrodon in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl; since their Pokédex data say that their colors and shapes differ from region to region, it's possible that their unused forms are meant to be obtained from Johto via Gold and Silver remakes.
The Pokédex data also mentions that Mantyke's special patterns also differ from region to region. Since this is its generation debut, it could be possible to see alternate sprites as well (though admittedly, while Arbok's sprites changed from the Generation I games to Generation II games, Generation II does not have 2 sprites: one pattern for Kanto, and another for Johto. Also, Sinnoh's and Kanto's sprites have the same pattern, while Johto's and Hoenn's are similar).
The Poké Ball motifs on the floors of the Pokémon Centers are gold on the top half and silver on the bottom half. This design also appears in Pal Park.
During a wild Pokémon battle, if the bottom screen is tapped with the DS stylus at certain times before and after the battle options appear, the normally red and white Poké Ball becomes gold and silver colored.
Ragecandybars are sold out at the shop on Boon Island in FireRed and LeafGreen and at the Department Store in Veilstone City in Platinum, hinting at their inclusion in a possible remake.
When going through the Distortion World for the first time, players must complete a puzzle that involves moving boulders with the move Strength to reach Giratina. This puzzle is similar to the puzzle in the Blackthorn Gym.
Eusine from Pokémon Crystal and Looker from Pokémon Platinum have some similarities. Both are introduced in the third game of their respective generation to enhance the game's plot. Each of them also have their own theme music.



Pokémon HeartGold Version (Japanese: ポケットモンスター ハートゴールド Pocket Monsters Heartgold) and Pokémon SoulSilver Version (Japanese: ポケットモンスター ソウルシルバー Pocket Monsters Soulsilver) are paired Generation IV remakes of the Generation II games Pokémon Gold and Silver.

Much like Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen revisited the Generation I story of Kanto, HeartGold and SoulSilver will revisit the story of Johto, with the player's starting area being New Bark Town. As there are no definitive details about the games yet, it is currently unknown whether or not changes to the plot and course of the original games will be made. What is currently known, however, is that the geography of New Bark Town, while updated, has not changed. The player's rival, Silver, lurks outside of Professor Elm's lab as he did in Generation II.

Like FireRed and LeafGreen, it is assumed that several enhancements will be made to the games to bring them up to speed with Generation IV, including adding features and Pokémon introduced in Generations III and IV. It has also been confirmed that brand new features, never before seen in the series, will be introduced. As indicated by data in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, these games are highly likely to be compatible with the Sinnoh three for battling and trading, though like FireRed and LeafGreen, certain objectives might need to be accomplished beforehand.

Kris, despite being the female counterpart of Crystal's player character Gold, is believed not to be included as the female counterpart, with a new character instead taking her place.

Changes from Pokémon Gold and Silver
Aesthetic changes
Gold received a redesign while a new player character apparently replaces Kris.
The DS's 3D capabilities are utilized in selecting the starter Pokémon.
The PokéGear has been redesigned. Now, it features two designs, one blue and white for males and another white and pink for females.
An image of certain locations, similar to that of FireRed and LeafGreen, appears when entering the location.
Location changes
Elm's Lab has an upstairs level.
Maps have been remade to match the design style used in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.
Gameplay changes
The player's starter will follow them, similar to Pikachu in Yellow. More specific details are currently unknown.
Similarly to the event Shaymin and Regigigas's effect on Platinum, the Pikachu-colored Pichu to be given to those who have pre-ordered tickets to the twelfth movie will unlock an event near the Ilex Forest Shrine featuring the Notched-ear Pichu.
The screen that pops up when pressing the Start or X buttons in the previous games appears on the touch instead.

Gallery
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...erebii.JPGreen
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Filecreen1.png
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Filecreen2.png
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Filecreen3.png

~EDIT by Smitie: Merged the two HG&SS threads

[hsb39]

Mewtwolord, that was a long post... and I don't really see why you posted it.


That's true, I'm on Serebiiforums and I tend to see that...
Well, I guess there's no harm in talking about pokémon(in the proper threads or social groups), but please, don't keep going off-topic, this thread is about Heart Gold and Soul Silver

OK, I'll move right back on topic, sort of, by noting that there will probably be move tutors in this game. That was a huge influence of Platinum (Outrage Salamence), and I wonder what is to be expected this time, I want Rapid Spin most of all.

[Skull_Kid]

Move tutors are one of the awesomest part of platinum(thunder punching Machamp ftw).
Rapid spin would be great, as well as some other crucial moves.
I hope that the E3 will reveal some good news about these two games, really

[hsb39]

Move tutors are one of the awesomest part of platinum(thunder punching Machamp ftw).
Rapid spin would be great, as well as some other crucial moves.
I hope that the E3 will reveal some good news about these two games, really

If you play much competitive battle you'll see that Rapid Spin is needed, 9 out of the top 10 leads have Stealth Rocks, the one without being the nifty little Ninjask.

Biggest Platinum tutor is Outrage, DDMence is a beast.

[Skull_Kid]

Some news regarding Heart Gold and Soul Silver, to get back on topic:

The games will include a piece of hardware called the "Poké Walker"

The Poké walker let's you transfer ONE of your Pokémon from HG/SS to it, and, being revealed that it is a pedometre, every step you take increases it's EXP and Happiness.

Also, during that, you may encounter some mini games that will reward you with items for HG/SS.
Also, wild pokémon can be encountered, but, to date, it is inknown if they are battled in the same way as the popular Pokémon RPGs

[hsb39]

Some news regarding Heart Gold and Soul Silver, to get back on topic:

The games will include a piece of hardware called the "Poké Walker"

The Poké walker let's you transfer ONE of your Pokémon from HG/SS to it, and, being revealed that it is a pedometre, every step you take increases it's EXP and Happiness.

Also, during that, you may encounter some mini games that will reward you with items for HG/SS.
Also, wild pokémon can be encountered, but, to date, it is inknown if they are battled in the same way as the popular Pokémon RPGs

I read about that, it seems like it might be useful, get a Pokemon a couple of levels while walking about.

And the wild battles will be the same, Nintendo is logical.

[Skull_Kid]

Well... and the huge flow of information started to be leaked.
I'm very excited about this, so, I'll try to make the post coherent

Coro coro scans were leaked(as always-.-) and some info as well.

- The battle screens will be very similar to the Platinum ones(i.e. black bars with the names and stats)

- The Rival's artwork as been pretty much redone, and now looks more girly, Elm, on the other side still looks the same.

- A scan showing a possible Arceus event on HGSS, also, it was kinda implied in Coro Coro that, if you transfer an Arceus to HGSS, Dialga, Palkia or Giratina at Lvl. 1

-The Packages were shown,and are a bit bigger, because they come with the Poké Walker.

You can see them here: http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/boxes2.jpg

-Kyogre will be available in Heart Gold and Groudon in Soul Silver, and, if you get the pair in one of the versions, Rayquaza will be catchable.

-A special Jirachi will be distributed(in Japan:() and will possibly unlock an event in HGSS.
It is not known if the event will make it's way to the USA and Europe, though.

-It's at level 5 and it's moves are: Wish, Confusion, Rest and, Draco Meteor wich is otherwise unlearnable by it. It also comes with a liechi berry attached.
Though it unlocks an event in HGSS, it is available to any of the 4th gen versions.

-And now, some HUGE news:

-Any pokémon can follow you, this is a feature that can be turned on or off.

- The Touch Screen will have much more features, such as interacting in different ways with the boxes, easier item selection, etc.

-The map was shown and the route headed east, as well as Mt.Silver and the Famous route 228 are in, wich means: WE GET KANTO!!!

-There is an unknown new area west of the National Park

-Pre-orders will come with a figure of each version's mascot, and, if you pre-order both you also get Arceus.

That's all for know, I hope I helped:)

EDIT:

Here are the scans and Images

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/groukyo.jpg

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.jpg

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/scan0609.jpg


Sidenote: Yes, the boxes aren't as glamourous as the originals were

Junichi masuda comunicate(translation)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/Mystic-Inazuma/TranslationMasudasHiddenPower.jpg

[Skull_Kid]

Since I reached the image limit, I had to do this, sorry

PokéWalker page translation

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/Mystic-Inazuma/TranslatedPokemonOfficialWebsite-14.jpg

Famichudan scan

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/Mystic-Inazuma/FinalMagazineTranslation1.jpg


Famitsu scan

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/Mystic-Inazuma/famitsu-2fix.jpg

[hsb39]

Very exited now.

I'm curious as to what is west of National Park, Battle Frontier or Pal Park maybe?

[LinkAlmighty]

Well here's some more HeartGold & SoulSilver stuff. This'll probably be it till the next volume of CoroCoro magazine comes out next month.

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1168

We now know that more than just your starter pokemon follows you around. In fact, there have been screenshots of Steelix, Wobbuffet and Kecleon following you around.
Also the image of Gold at the side might just have been put there by the magazine or it might actually appear when you talk to your pokemon. (Much like in Yellow, but with an image)

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1167

Next up is a clearer image of Arceus and Cynthia. Apparently the event involving these two allows you to get either a Dialga, a Palkia or a Girantina. So it's all by personal preference. [Edit] Also they will be at Level 1 once you choose one.

And finally, the best image of them all:
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1166

We finally see the boxart for HeartGold and SoulSilver. The boxes are bigger than usual because of the PokeWalker peripheral. However this is the Japanese box art so it might be different for other regions, and the PokeWalker might be Japan only.

Now the boxes feature Ho-oh for HG and Lugia for SS and if you look closely, for each one there's a map of Johto in the background. For HeartGold the Tin Tower is being focused on while for SoulSilver the Whirl Islands are being focused on.

[hsb39]

Just want to note, Link Almighty, that it's not all bad having the legends at Lvl.1, and if you are just given them, it makes getting shinies/good IVs easier.

[Skull_Kid]

Not many news, the main news are that, while the Pokémon follows you, it can eventually find some items, such as berries, like when you took a stroll in Amity Square with your cute Pokémons in D/P/Pt

I'm really liking the direction of this game

[El Bagu]

I´m really looking forward to those games! I´m actually playing through Pokémon Silver right now. It´s my first Pokémon experience ever and I absolutely adore it :) (although I have to admit that it took some gyms before I really understood the greatness). Soul Silver is a game I most definitely will not miss, it´s gonna be awesome to compare it to the Silver I play right now.

[LinkAlmighty]

Just want to note, Link Almighty, that it's not all bad having the legends at Lvl.1, and if you are just given them, it makes getting shinies/good IVs easier.

I wasn't saying that having the legendaries at level 1 is bad, I was telling the people who read it that they will have to train them up if they want them to be powerful.

Anyways, as said before, there probably won't be any new information on them till next month but here's a nice map of Johto just cause it looks nice:
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1174

[hsb39]

I wasn't saying that having the legendaries at level 1 is bad, I was telling the people who read it that they will have to train them up if they want them to be powerful.

Anyways, as said before, there probably won't be any new information on them till next month but here's a nice map of Johto just cause it looks nice:
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=204&pictureid=1174

There was a little implication that it was bad ("a lot of training"). I don't really think that that deserved a neg rep.

Back on topic: I wonder whether, since the Pokemon follow you, you will see them using HMs, and what I really hope is that you Surf on the actual Pokemon. Imagine Surfing on something like a Kyogre or Snorlax, on the flipside, what about a Goldeen...

[Skull_Kid]

There was a little implication that it was bad ("a lot of training"). I don't really think that that deserved a neg rep.

Back on topic: I wonder whether, since the Pokemon follow you, you will see them using HMs, and what I really hope is that you Surf on the actual Pokemon. Imagine Surfing on something like a Kyogre or Snorlax, on the flipside, what about a Goldeen...

I don't think that the HM stuff will be seeable... it'll probably work like in previous games, a black backgrounded stripe appears on the screen, you see the pokémon and hear it's cry.

I am starting to consider the fact that the games may NOT have a Pal Park...
In my opinion, everything revealed points towards that direction.

Sidenote: Lvl 1 legendaries will be awesome, even though you can only get one.
That way you can EV train them from the start

[hsb39]

I don't think that the HM stuff will be seeable... it'll probably work like in previous games, a black backgrounded stripe appears on the screen, you see the pokémon and hear it's cry.

I am starting to consider the fact that the games may NOT have a Pal Park...
In my opinion, everything revealed points towards that direction.

Sidenote: Lvl 1 legendaries will be awesome, even though you can only get one.
That way you can EV train them from the start

One can always hope with the HMs.

It's relieving because I thought that the idea of a Lvl. 1 Legend was cool with Regigigas, but, it was Regigigas, easily the worst legend in the game, and quite competitively outclassed by many things, even it's good defensive stats don't have the movepool to support them (and there are already a plethora of defensively adept normal types).

[Skull_Kid]

i will probably choose Dialga, because it's by far my favorite of the three(unless they make it able to Giratina hold the Griseous Orb thus resetting to the Origin Forme:))
Oh, and I like Regigas, and I don't that he is that bad, with a decent, well thought moveset, he has the potential of being devastative.
he just has to endure the first 5 turns.
In my opinion the Psychic trio is far more useless...

[hsb39]

i will probably choose Dialga, because it's by far my favorite of the three(unless they make it able to Giratina hold the Griseous Orb thus resetting to the Origin Forme:))
Oh, and I like Regigas, and I don't that he is that bad, with a decent, well thought moveset, he has the potential of being devastative.
he just has to endure the first 5 turns.
In my opinion the Psychic trio is far more useless...

Regigigas will not survive 5 turns in the competitive environment, it is all about switching. It's set up fodder.

Azelf competes with Metagross as the most used lead. So, Azelf is one of the best non-Uber legendaries there are.

The Tina will be able to turn into Origin Form. I really wish that they didn't make it have a set hold item, it could have been so much better if it could have been Choiced.

[Skull_Kid]

I know that Regigigas doesn't survive enough in competitive, but, I had a Regi fun team in my diamond and it beated the crap out of my last year's room mate(I was at a fraternity" a lot of time, even though I'm not in the university.

I didn't know that Azelf was that good, as I almost never see him being used, unlike MetaGross.

The Origin Forme issues, well, the item that makes him transform, at least gives nice boosts

[Master Link]

This game really seems to be coming together. So far it is everything that I want in a pokemon game. I thought that it was awesome when they said your starter could follow you, but now it is 10 more times as awesome that it can be any pokemon.

I really like the direction of more customization that this game is taking. If there is one thing that I say the other pokemon games lack is customization.

[hsb39]

I know that Regigigas doesn't survive enough in competitive, but, I had a Regi fun team in my diamond and it beated the crap out of my last year's room mate(I was at a fraternity" a lot of time, even though I'm not in the university.

I didn't know that Azelf was that good, as I almost never see him being used, unlike MetaGross.

The Origin Forme issues, well, the item that makes him transform, at least gives nice boosts

If you ever watch a competitive battle you'd see the switching. What should be also noted, is that it is not like it has 80 Atk and 50 Spd, it is less, as EVs are halved too.

Azelf fits the current lead metagame perfectly, it can set up rocks, Taunt others, hit hard, and Explode. Although I won't use it because I hate how leads are now.

The best thing about Origin's item is actually Trick immunity, using TrickScarf Darkrai as setup fodder.

[Skull_Kid]

Well, some news confirmed by the kid show in japan called Oha Suta.

The pikachu-colored Pichu will trigger an event(as previously known) wich will trigger a double battle against a pichu and the notched ear pichu.
It's moves are: Volt Tackle; Helping Hand; Swagger and Pain Split. it'll be at Level 30.
The Arceus event will take place in the Ruins of Alph, if you take an Arceus there, a new area will be unlocked called "Shinto Ruins", and Cynthia will appear asking you wich one of the dragon trio you wish Arceus to create, after that, Arceus get's swarmed by Unowns.

On a sidenote: Until the 17th of July, Jirachi will be downloadable via wi-fi

[hsb39]

Well, some news confirmed by the kid show in japan called Oha Suta.

The pikachu-colored Pichu will trigger an event(as previously known) wich will trigger a double battle against a pichu and the notched ear pichu.
It's moves are: Volt Tackle; Helping Hand; Swagger and Pain Split. it'll be at Level 30.
The Arceus event will take place in the Ruins of Alph, if you take an Arceus there, a new area will be unlocked called "Shinto Ruins", and Cynthia will appear asking you wich one of the dragon trio you wish Arceus to create, after that, Arceus get's swarmed by Unowns.

On a sidenote: Until the 17th of July, Jirachi will be downloadable via wi-fi

Heh... Pichu with Pain Split. They could have made a better special move than that.

[Skull_Kid]

Yes, they could, but I think it has to do with the anime, or so...
In case anyone watches the anime, is the Notched Ear Pichu, eventually, one of the Pichu Bros from Pokémon Channel?

[hsb39]

Yes, they could, but I think it has to do with the anime, or so...
In case anyone watches the anime, is the Notched Ear Pichu, eventually, one of the Pichu Bros from Pokémon Channel?


It's quite annoying, generally event moves have uses.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

On a sidenote: Until the 17th of July, Jirachi will be downloadable via wi-fi

Eh? That's pretty interesting. Would you mind telling me how I could get it? Or is it only in a certain country outside of the USA?

[hsb39]

Eh? That's pretty interesting. Would you mind telling me how I could get it? Or is it only in a certain country outside of the USA?

It's only in Japan for the moment, but the event will come out eventually in other countries. Awesome thing is that it has Draco Meteor.

[Skull_Kid]

Some little news tidbit.
The official japanese site was just updated and there's finally a release date announced for Japan: 12th of September.

[hsb39]

Some little news tidbit.
The official japanese site was just updated and there's finally a release date announced for Japan: 12th of September.

I should note that we can't completely rely on that... Look at Brawl.

[Kazumi]

Yeah really. I'm not completely trusting the Release Date yet, because of Brawl. *COUGH* I better get some money to import it to Canada. Good thing my birthday is soon. Now let us see.. It's 4800 or something Yen to import it. Is that the price to import it to NA? Probably? Maybe? Most likely I'll guess. I must go and visit a Currency Converter! *Charges off in that general direction.*

EDIT: According to Google, 4800 Yen is about 58 Canadian Dollars. *Cringes*

[hsb39]

Yeah really. I'm not completely trusting the Release Date yet, because of Brawl. *COUGH* I better get some money to import it to Canada. Good thing my birthday is soon. Now let us see.. It's 4800 or something Yen to import it. Is that the price to import it to NA? Probably? Maybe? Most likely I'll guess. I must go and visit a Currency Converter! *Charges off in that general direction.*

EDIT: According to Google, 4800 Yen is about 58 Canadian Dollars. *Cringes*

That's not that bad. I'm going to have to pay at least $70 Australian.

[Skull_Kid]

You should wait until it's released in the US, that's what I'll do, and then, I'll also pre-order the european versions;)
Brawl was an exception, and the delays were by fault of the guy doing the game(don't remember the name)

[hsb39]

You should wait until it's released in the US, that's what I'll do, and then, I'll also pre-order the european versions;)
Brawl was an exception, and the delays were by fault of the guy doing the game(don't remember the name)

I generally just buy it when it comes out in Oz, the money isn't that much, and it is very much worth it.

[Toon link]

I dont care if its in german or japanese! I am getting them!

[arkvoodle]

i cant wait til it comes out. i'm not gonna import it cause i wanna enjoy it in english.
i already have gold on the GBC. the plot'll be the same(probably) but i'm still gonna get it

[hsb39]

Did everyone see the new add? YouTube it, the HD version is up now and it's very good.

[Skull_Kid]

Well, here I am with some news:

-Eusine from pokémon also appears in a sidestory revolving around the 3 legendary beasts

- The level 1 members of the dragon trio, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina know: Metal burst, Hydro Pump and Shadow sneak, respectively.

-There are 9 new touch screen based mini games.

-It is also said that latios, latias and mewtwo will be available in-game.

-Confirmation of Lugia and Ho-Oh at level 45.

-Confirmation of Red Gyarados return at level 30(yes, they are gonna put it in, after all)

[Kazumi]

Pfft SK copy and pasted. Eh. Nothing much interesting new at the moment. But information from CoroCoro is just coming in, so I would expect a lot more in the next couple of days. They sure are filling HGSS up with Legendaries. First we have Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza, then the Dragon Trio, now Latios and Latias. Plus all of the Johto legends. I expected Mewtwo to be in it already. Gah. I was hoping for no Red Gyarados. I dread the days after HGSS is released, and the GTS is just clogged with freaking Shiny Gyaradoses. Well, I'll just wait for a while till more CoroCoro scans come in.

[arkvoodle]

It's great that they're remaking these two classic Pokemon gaames, i remember playing these when i was only little, I heard that some of the event Pokemon from Diamond, Pearl and platinum will also be available, such as Arceus, which opens up a hidden area and allows you to chose one of the legendary trio's e.g Entei, Raikou, Suicune

[Halo siera 117]

This will be so awesome, and the red Gyarados and Red. This will give me a reason to train.

[hsb39]

Well, here I am with some news:

-Eusine from pokémon also appears in a sidestory revolving around the 3 legendary beasts

- The level 1 members of the dragon trio, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina know: Metal burst, Hydro Pump and Shadow sneak, respectively.

-There are 9 new touch screen based mini games.

-It is also said that latios, latias and mewtwo will be available in-game.

-Confirmation of Lugia and Ho-Oh at level 45.

-Confirmation of Red Gyarados return at level 30(yes, they are gonna put it in, after all)

- Metal Burst Dialga WOOT!
- Shadow Sneak Giratina... Watch out Attack Deoxys.
- Hydro Pump Palkia... Meh.
- They now have every legend in 4th gen.
- I have a now useless Shiny Magikarp.

[Skull_Kid]

A ton more news to be added:)

here they are:

-The Red Gyarados will still be at level 30, located in the lake of rage.

-When surfing, the sprite used in D/P/Pt will be used:(

-The Touch screen mini games are called the Pokéathlon(as in: Poké triathlon or marathon or so)

-The evaluation of the mini games ranges several criteria, much like the Contests.
Those criteria are: Speed, Stamina, Power and Jump.

- for those who were or will be present at the Poké Tour Parties raging across Japan, they'll have the oppurtunity of playing a demo of the games.

[hsb39]

Also Skull Kid, you can register two items (like say, Bike and Super Rod).

[Skull_Kid]

True, and here are some more fresh news.


-The Item Finder will also be in the touch screen menu, along with the phone, radio and map.

- Two pokeathlon events are the Shooting Arrow, wich is basicly a snowball fight, and Ring Out Fight, wich is kinda like Sumo Wrestling

[hsb39]

True, and here are some more fresh news.


-The Item Finder will also be in the touch screen menu, along with the phone, radio and map.

- Two pokeathlon events are the Shooting Arrow, wich is basicly a snowball fight, and Ring Out Fight, wich is kinda like Sumo Wrestling

I like that they are putting minigames in, a nice distraction from the competitive environment.

Also, before I said to you that Giratina-O was failing, but I should be fair and say that it is now finding a niche, as an offensive spinblocker, and a special sweeper that can 1v1 a Blissey, mainly due to Seismic Toss immunity.

[Durion]

I don't know if you already stated this but if you get a Japanese version, You get a item bundled with it called the Poke Walker, It is a Pedometer that connects to your DS through wireless connection, You can then store a pokemon on it and as you walk it gains experience and its Happiness rises.

[Brandikins]

I havn't played my Platinum in a few months, but I will start playing again for these. I loved Johto, and I'm so happy that they have finally re-made these awesome games. Amen.

[hsb39]

I don't know if you already stated this but if you get a Japanese version, You get a item bundled with it called the Poke Walker, It is a Pedometer that connects to your DS through wireless connection, You can then store a pokemon on it and as you walk it gains experience and its Happiness rises.

I think that chances are it will be in the English one too.

Comes out in Japan soon people, that's when we get things like new moves (remember DP when Scizor didn't have Bullet Punch?), and move tutors.

[MrMosley]

I'm surprised no one has (apparently) posted this yet. So I figured I would. It looks like the American/European logos for the games have been released. I got these images from IGN.

Heart Gold
http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/pokemon-heart-gold-version.jpg

Soul Silver
http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/pokemon-heart-gold-version-.jpg

Also, there are a couple of gameplay images I found on there to be quite interesting. It looks like they are fully 3D videos or scenes of Ho-oh and Lugia, possibly when you meet them or perhaps in the intro. Either way, they are awesome.

Ho-oh
http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/pokemon-heart-gold-soul-silver-s-1.jpg

Lugia
http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/pokemon-heart-gold-soul-silver-scre.jpg

[hsb39]

They're out in Japan really soon, and then we get the info on move tutors!

[Twili Kid]

To get the dragon trio you must transfer the 12th movie event arceus from platnum to gold or silver

Another movie event is the pikachu colored pichu, when transfered you get the notched ear pichu that sadly can evolve.

the games have been comfirmed for spring 2010

Any pokemon can be your partner pokemon 1-493 just as long as its in the first slot thingy.

P.S. I'm getting Soul Silver

[hsb39]

The battle frontier has a good chance of being the same, I really hope that we have some different facilities, I was a bit disappointed in the lack of variety in the Platinum Frontier.

[Niko Bellic 817]

I've just seen an awesome new feature they added to HG/SS. It's kind of a spoiler so be warned.




When you go to Celadon City, you get this item called Gameboy Player. It's a key item and when equipped, you can actually listen to the music in the game in original 8-bit form!

[hsb39]

We've got the move tutor list as well as the breeding moves etc.

Biggest thing: Super Fang move tutor.

[Brandikins]

The battle frontier has a good chance of being the same, I really hope that we have some different facilities, I was a bit disappointed in the lack of variety in the Platinum Frontier.
I personally liked Emerald's frontier more. There were more facilities, they were harder, much more fun, etc. platinum's frontier sucked. I never even got any badges in platinums. I got all silver in emerald and two gold I think.

[hsb39]

I personally liked Emerald's frontier more. There were more facilities, they were harder, much more fun, etc. platinum's frontier sucked. I never even got any badges in platinums. I got all silver in emerald and two gold I think.

It would be better if it was harder (not through hax, through it generally being harder). I've got all the silver in Platinum, and I don't know if I'll be trying to get the golds...

Anyone got any comments on the new moves?

[Master Kokiri 9]

man i can't wait. Heartgold and soulsilver come to the states soon. It'll be so epic. Although I think that they'll put some new areas into hg an ss so you can catch the hoenns that you can't get in the sinnoh version. While it's just speculation this is also based off of nintnedo's classic predictability. I estimate that hg and ss will come statside by mid-march to early-april.

[hsb39]

man i can't wait. Heartgold and soulsilver come to the states soon. It'll be so epic. Although I think that they'll put some new areas into hg an ss so you can catch the hoenns that you can't get in the sinnoh version. While it's just speculation this is also based off of nintnedo's classic predictability. I estimate that hg and ss will come statside by mid-march to early-april.

We've pretty much got everything confirmed, head over to Serebii.net .

There are a few new areas, specifically a Safari Zone and a new route leading to Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza.

[K4KING]

Yeah i've been playing My SS for a while and i saw this thread. I did not bother reading it at first but as soon as it reached this many i decided to post.

This game is really fun! especially the Pokewalker. as expected from Serebii, they are better than the old ones but the best thing in this game is

the GB player, it let's you play the Original music from GSC in Hg and SS. i won't put details here about it since Serebii has covered it up, but all i can say is i finally have the Pikachu with Fly. i'm trying to find a pikachu that knows surf next so i'm off.

if ya want a Flying pikachu, get the game. i'll givbe ONLY if i have extras.

[Master Kokiri 9]

We've pretty much got everything confirmed, head over to Serebii.net .

There are a few new areas, specifically a Safari Zone and a new route leading to Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza.

Sorry I haven't researched them in a while. But still I was right and that's good enough for me.

[hsb39]

but all i can say is i finally have the Pikachu with Fly. i'm trying to find a pikachu that knows surf next so i'm off.

if ya want a Flying pikachu, get the game. i'll givbe ONLY if i have extras.

Flying Pika is pretty cool, good that they actually gave one to us, too bad it has no competitive use.

[Alex_Da_Great]

Hmmm.... Never heard of this before. I might buy it when it comes out! :)

[hsb39]

Hmmm.... Never heard of this before. I might buy it when it comes out! :)

Do so, it will be the best in the series I think. Also, can't wait to soft reset a Celebi.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Do so, it will be the best in the series I think. Also, can't wait to soft reset a Celebi.

Please tell me I'll finally be able to get an in-game Celebi. I've had to hack one on past games because I wanted one so badly, and I never can seem to make those darn events. Being able to catch a legit one for the first time will really make this game even more special for me.

[hsb39]

Please tell me I'll finally be able to get an in-game Celebi. I've had to hack one on past games because I wanted one so badly, and I never can seem to make those darn events. Being able to catch a legit one for the first time will really make this game even more special for me.

Yeah, there's an event, that also involves going back in time and finding out why Giovanni wasn't in the game (meeting him at the end of RBY).

[Master Kokiri 9]

Yeah, there's an event, that also involves going back in time and finding out why Giovanni wasn't in the game (meeting him at the end of RBY).

Nice! I still hate those evil Japans for getting it first though... but my waiting will pay off in about half a year. Dang that's a long time to wait...

[hsb39]

Nice! I still hate those evil Japans for getting it first though... but my waiting will pay off in about half a year. Dang that's a long time to wait...

And I have to wait another 6 months after that, I live in the land of Oz (and probably talk about it a bit too much).

[Master Kokiri 9]

Okay so here's some new info I got.

At school today a friend of mine said that it's going to be released on April 1 2010. He got it from Gamestop and currently I don't trust the date for two reasons. First the date itself might be an April Fool's joke. Then it's Gamestop itself. Before Brawl was released I went to the store three times on a Gamestop date and until the bthird I left empty handed.

After that he said that instead of Johto being the backdrop for this advanture it's Kanto. But I don't trust this at all. First HG and SS are remakes of Gold and Silver which took place in the Johto. But it will feature access to Kanto obviously because you have access to it in G and S.

[Seethe]

You could always buy a Japanese copy. The DS/i is not region locked yet. The future DSi games will be, though. Unfortunately I'm not fluent with Japanese...

[hsb39]

Okay so here's some new info I got.

At school today a friend of mine said that it's going to be released on April 1 2010. He got it from Gamestop and currently I don't trust the date for two reasons. First the date itself might be an April Fool's joke. Then it's Gamestop itself. Before Brawl was released I went to the store three times on a Gamestop date and until the bthird I left empty handed.

After that he said that instead of Johto being the backdrop for this advanture it's Kanto. But I don't trust this at all. First HG and SS are remakes of Gold and Silver which took place in the Johto. But it will feature access to Kanto obviously because you have access to it in G and S.

The release date I'm not too sure about, but Serebii has every bit of info on the story. It's pretty much the same only with some minor changes. So you go through Johto, and then go through Kanto.

[Silver]

I'm so hyped about this, but I feel something...Such as this is impossible! The compatibly of the DS games are very limited. It all depends on it. I mean it has Poke triathlons, then it has PokeWalker, and then the events, what I'm trying to say is it sounds impossible. It seems I have been proven wrong since it has been released and it's sales have increased a lot! Also, I can't wait for it, I'm so pumped, excited, HYPER, must I continue? Hahaah!:)

[hsb39]

I'm so hyped about this, but I feel something...Such as this is impossible! The compatibly of the DS games are very limited. It all depends on it. I mean it has Poke triathlons, then it has PokeWalker, and then the events, what I'm trying to say is it sounds impossible. It seems I have been proven wrong since it has been released and it's sales have increased a lot! Also, I can't wait for it, I'm so pumped, excited, HYPER, must I continue? Hahaah!:)

This is what a lot of people are like (you should have seen me when it was confirmed), so many new people are coming back to Pokemon, I really want to see these sales.

[Silver]

If you were wondering how Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver was selling in Japan, I have an update for you. Sales tracker Enterbrain has put out their numbers, which show that this Pokemon outing is the third fastest-selling DS title of all-time. With over 2 million units sold in just 3 weeks, it's very clear that Japan has a huge crush for Gold and Silver. I'm sure North America and Europe will be the same!

This is from GoNintendo. It seems HG/SS is a hit in Japan. Although I am surprised it hasn't raised in sales. It's a remake of Gold and Silver, one of the best GameBoy games ever made, well I am defeintly going to import this, or buy it when it comes out in English. Oh, and Marriland of YouTube, has began his adventure into Heart Gold and Soul Silver. It's pretty amusing.

[fredthehylian]

I'll get SS only for the Nostalgia of playing Silver as a kid.

[hsb39]

This is from GoNintendo. It seems HG/SS is a hit in Japan. Although I am surprised it hasn't raised in sales. It's a remake of Gold and Silver, one of the best GameBoy games ever made, well I am defeintly going to import this, or buy it when it comes out in English. Oh, and Marriland of YouTube, has began his adventure into Heart Gold and Soul Silver. It's pretty amusing.

Marriland's a pretty funny guy. Taking the lighthearted approach to Pokemon (and Marriland's not from YouTube, just for random facts, he originated from his fan site that is the second biggest in the world after serebii).

EDIT: Also want to mention that smogon's on youtube now, I might make a thread about that because it's pretty big.

[Niko Bellic 817]

According to wikipedia, Heartgold and Soulsilver will be released in North America on March 14, 2010.

[MohakVaati]

March 14th? URGH... That's a long time for me :(... What to do till then?

[Master Kokiri 9]

Yes it does seem that March 14 2010 is the american release date of Heart Gold/Soul Silver and other places aside from Wikipedia say that (such as http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/20760/). Honestly I can't wait for March and I just want some new footage so bad!

[Ikana]

If this is the real date 4 MORE MONTHS!I'm saving my Christmas money for this game

[Petman1325]

This is perhaps one of the first Pokemon games I've wanted in over eight years! After checking sources like Bulbapedia and such, this has gotten me really pepped up, especially with the comeback of the old chiptunes. I also like the idea of the little pedometer thing to help give your Pokemon some experience. So, March 14th seems like a great day for me! Another day for Typhlosion to dominate!

[nitro]

Will pokemon from sinnoh be able to be traded and used in SS/HG?

[Kazumi]

Replying to above:

Yes, Sinnoh Pokemon will be able to traded and used. And I've heard that it's pretty open. Something like after the first gym even you can trade with DPPt (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum). That means I can send over my team of EV'd level 100's.. Yeah. Nintendo confrimed the March 14th release date. That will be a fine time for me. I sure can't wait till then.. The only releases to get through till then are Tatsunoko VS Capcom: Ultimate All Stars, and Red Steel 2..

[fredthehylian]

Yes, Sinnoh Pokemon will be able to traded and used. And I've heard that it's pretty open. Something like after the first gym even you can trade with DPPt (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum).

For that reason alone, I am opting against buying the two. I want to play Silver with some updated graphics and WiFi WITHOUT any Pokemon that are painted robots, god-wannabes, or anything other than awesome. This is also forcing me to play on the old cartridges in order to avoid Sinnoh.