Emperor of the Dark Realm?

[Axle the Beast]

I was playing Wind Waker the other day, and something struck me as odd.

When you complete the Forsaken Fortress the first time and are taken to Windfall Island, the King of the Red Lions tells you all about Ganon. I'm sure you remember this.

But I noticed something odd I never noticed before. The King of the Red Lions states that Ganon was the "Emperor of the Dark Realm." What the hell does that mean?

The only thing I can think of is the Dark World. Is it possible that when Ganondorf was sealed in the Sacred Realm at the end of OoT, that it became the Dark World (or already was from his wish,) and that set the stage for A Link to the Past? And then Wind Waker came after?

It might not be that exactly... but what do you think it means? And what does this mean for traditional timeline theories?

(And I know I'm not usually one to discuss the timeline, but this struck me as really strange.)

[ChargewithSword]

Ganondorf had basically poisoned the Sacred Realm and turned it into the Dark World. He had plenty of free time to conquer it at the same time.

Also Alttp inbetween OOT or WW would be impossible considering that ToG Link killed Ganon and the Sacred Realm had been purified.

[Axle the Beast]

Ganondorf had basically poisoned the Sacred Realm and turned it into the Dark World. He had plenty of free time to conquer it at the same time.
To what I understand, how it worked is if the person who made a wish with the Triforce was evil, the Sacred Realm would turn into the Dark World...

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

[basement24]

I think it was stated in ALttP that Ganondorf was able to make it to the Golden Land, and made a wish on the Triforce for it to be turned into the Dark World. I don't think if any evil person had simply touched the Triforce, this would have happened, but it had to be that evil person's direct wish for it to happen.

[ChargewithSword]

Well then I would have to say that
A) The developers screwed up the consitancy.

B) Ganondorf had basically taken over the Sacred Realm with his own power.

[Axle the Beast]

Well, anyway, the point of this thread isn't how Ganon became the ruler of the Sacred Realm/Dark World, it's what this means timeline-wise, or if it means anything at all.

[ChargewithSword]

I believe that this fact has no relevance to the timeline whatso ever. They just state how Ganondorf took over the Sacred Realm.

[Skull_Kid]

I think that he turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World in both timelines(adult and Child), the differences are that in the Adult timeline he still retained his Ganondorf form, and in the Child timeline, he had to come back as a Demon(in ALttP), because his human body was destroyed in TP. What I think is that he underestimated the power of good and never thought of drawing Link to the Dark World during the TP events

[sign of table]

It's referring to OoT. In OoT Sheik says that the SR turned into a Makai. Which means Demon World or World controlled by a demon. I assume it means the latter happened.

[MrMosley]

From what I understand, the events that are talked about at the beginning of ALttP are not the same events which took place in OoT.

In ALttP, the manual talks about Ganondorf getting into the Sacred Realm and wishing upon the Triforce. His wish was to rule the Sacred Realm apparently, so it turned into the Dark World, and because of the nature of Ganondorf, it turned him into the beast known as Ganon.

In OoT, I don't know what Sheik says in Japanese... What I do know is that this game's events cannot be the same ones spoken about in ALttP, or else the entire story from ALttP would have been re-written. Ocarina of Time shows Ganondorf's first attempted attack on Hyrule, as well as the first time he touches the Triforce. The Sages do not seal him within the Sacred Realm upon him touching the Triforce, as they did in ALttP's backstory. Ganondorf was not sealed in any realm until the very end of the game, and it was called the Evil Realm.

--EDIT--
And one more thing that should be obvious to all theorists is the fact that the split timeline keeps any events from either side from ever happening on the other. If you were to say that the events spoken about in the backstory of ALttP were the events of OoT, then you would be saying that ALttP was talking about something that occured on the Adult Timeline, as Ganondorf did not gain access to the Sacred Realm until AFTER Link pulled the Master Sword out. But in the Child Timeline, which is the timeline that most theorists place ALttP in, Link never pulled the Master Sword out. Ganondorf did end up with the Triforce of Power, but if you pay attention to Twilight Princess, it is described as a "divine prank" by which he got his Triforce piece.

So what it all boils down to, is the Sages sealing Ganondorf in OoT happend in the AT. ALttP happens as a continuation of the CT.

[Skull_Kid]

From what I understand, the events that are talked about at the beginning of ALttP are not the same events which took place in OoT.

In ALttP, the manual talks about Ganondorf getting into the Sacred Realm and wishing upon the Triforce. His wish was to rule the Sacred Realm apparently, so it turned into the Dark World, and because of the nature of Ganondorf, it turned him into the beast known as Ganon.

In OoT, I don't know what Sheik says in Japanese... What I do know is that this game's events cannot be the same ones spoken about in ALttP, or else the entire story from ALttP would have been re-written. Ocarina of Time shows Ganondorf's first attempted attack on Hyrule, as well as the first time he touches the Triforce. The Sages do not seal him within the Sacred Realm upon him touching the Triforce, as they did in ALttP's backstory. Ganondorf was not sealed in any realm until the very end of the game, and it was called the Evil Realm.

And that is one fact that most theorists seem to overlook.
The Sacred Realm and the Evil realm are NOT by any means the same.
In this case, I think that what Sheik says is the same as in the US and Eur versions, if I am not mistaken.
My best shot theory is that the pre-ALttp events are something that occurs between TP and FSA, or maybe after the body of Ganondorf being killed, they somehow exiled it in the Sacred Realm, to prevent Cultists(such as Twin Rova) from reviving him

[Smertios]

From what I understand, the events that are talked about at the beginning of ALttP are not the same events which took place in OoT.

In ALttP, the manual talks about Ganondorf getting into the Sacred Realm and wishing upon the Triforce. His wish was to rule the Sacred Realm apparently, so it turned into the Dark World, and because of the nature of Ganondorf, it turned him into the beast known as Ganon.

In OoT, I don't know what Sheik says in Japanese... What I do know is that this game's events cannot be the same ones spoken about in ALttP, or else the entire story from ALttP would have been re-written. Ocarina of Time shows Ganondorf's first attempted attack on Hyrule, as well as the first time he touches the Triforce. The Sages do not seal him within the Sacred Realm upon him touching the Triforce, as they did in ALttP's backstory. Ganondorf was not sealed in any realm until the very end of the game, and it was called the Evil Realm.

--EDIT--
And one more thing that should be obvious to all theorists is the fact that the split timeline keeps any events from either side from ever happening on the other. If you were to say that the events spoken about in the backstory of ALttP were the events of OoT, then you would be saying that ALttP was talking about something that occured on the Adult Timeline, as Ganondorf did not gain access to the Sacred Realm until AFTER Link pulled the Master Sword out. But in the Child Timeline, which is the timeline that most theorists place ALttP in, Link never pulled the Master Sword out. Ganondorf did end up with the Triforce of Power, but if you pay attention to Twilight Princess, it is described as a "divine prank" by which he got his Triforce piece.

So what it all boils down to, is the Sages sealing Ganondorf in OoT happend in the AT. ALttP happens as a continuation of the CT.

I'm sorry to say but OoT was confirmed to be the SW told in LttP by two members of the development team, one of which was the head story writer of the game (OoT):


Takizawa: In past, when you thought about Ganon in Zelda, he was a pig. This time, when were collaborating ideas, we thought "He wouldn't be a pig, would he?" There were even some who thought "I don't want him to be a pig." But I still thought that at least the end should have Ganon as a pig. The whole time I wanted to know what Mr. Miyamoto thought, but in the end, I realized that Mr. Miyamoto didn't have an opinion on the matter, so I decided to do it the way I wanted.
This time, the story really wasn't an original. We were dealing with the "The Imprisoning War of the Seven Sages" from the SNES edition Zelda. To give that game a little "secret" recognition, I thought that keeping the "pigness" in Ganon would be the correct course. So we made him a beast "with the feeling of a pig."

Osawa: Though in this game Zelda is now included in the Seven Sages, the other six have the names of the town names from the Disk System edition "The Adventure of Link."
In the SNES edition game, the story "Long ago, there was a war called the Imprisoning War" was passed along. A name in the Imprisoning War era is the name of a Town later. They were like "pseudo-secrets." We wanted to throw these out through the entirety of the game. That thing from then is now this.
Tarin and Marin, a father and girl who appeared in "Link's Awakening" (GB) were used as the base for a different parent and child who comes out in this game. These are the things that when they are seen by a person who has played Zelda before they will understand. If people begin to think "Do you think that this could be that thing from then?" then I will be happy.

This proves not only that LttP BS is the SW and that LttP has to come in the AT, but also that LoZ/AoL have to, as well...

[MrMosley]

I'm sorry to say but OoT was confirmed to be the SW told in LttP by two members of the development team, one of which was the head story writer of the game (OoT):


Takizawa: In past, when you thought about Ganon in Zelda, he was a pig. This time, when were collaborating ideas, we thought "He wouldn't be a pig, would he?" There were even some who thought "I don't want him to be a pig." But I still thought that at least the end should have Ganon as a pig. The whole time I wanted to know what Mr. Miyamoto thought, but in the end, I realized that Mr. Miyamoto didn't have an opinion on the matter, so I decided to do it the way I wanted.
This time, the story really wasn't an original. We were dealing with the "The Imprisoning War of the Seven Sages" from the SNES edition Zelda. To give that game a little "secret" recognition, I thought that keeping the "pigness" in Ganon would be the correct course. So we made him a beast "with the feeling of a pig."

Osawa: Though in this game Zelda is now included in the Seven Sages, the other six have the names of the town names from the Disk System edition "The Adventure of Link."
In the SNES edition game, the story "Long ago, there was a war called the Imprisoning War" was passed along. A name in the Imprisoning War era is the name of a Town later. They were like "pseudo-secrets." We wanted to throw these out through the entirety of the game. That thing from then is now this.
Tarin and Marin, a father and girl who appeared in "Link's Awakening" (GB) were used as the base for a different parent and child who comes out in this game. These are the things that when they are seen by a person who has played Zelda before they will understand. If people begin to think "Do you think that this could be that thing from then?" then I will be happy.

This proves not only that LttP BS is the SW and that LttP has to come in the AT, but also that LoZ/AoL have to, as well...

That still makes absolutely no sense. Why would they want to seal him in the place that they were trying to keep him out of? Even if we were to say he was sealed in the Sacred Realm at the end, that is not the point at which Ganondorf acquired the Triforce. He acquired it whenever Link pulled the Master Sword out.

In order for that to make any bit of sense, you would have to say that ALttP takes place in between OoT and WW. You would have to say that after the sages sealed Ganondorf in the "Sacred Realm", that he somehow obtained the whole Triforce (impossible), transformed the Sacred Realm into the Dark World, and had another hero come in and defeat him. Which is also impossible, considering the BS of WW says that after Ganondorf was sealed, absolutely nothing happend until he escaped, which is when the flood occured. And ALttP says the Ganondorf (man) got into the Sacred Realm and acquired the Triforce, which at that very point, he was sealed. Not that he got it, got out of the SR, ran around wild for seven years taking over Hyrule, then was placed back in so that somehow an entire generation could happen, a new Link could come beat him up, and the story of WW be retconned.

So I don't agree with these quotes, whether or not they came from anyone. I am all for going with what the developers say, but regardless of if Ganondorf if a pig or a man or whatever, saying that OoT is the BS of ALttP contradicts the events of not only ALttP itself, but WW as well.

[Erimgard]

A: A SoM said, Sheik/Zelda states then when Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm, he became a "Demon King" and the Sacred Realm became a "Demon World". NoA translates this as King of Evil and world of evil.

The same word, makai/demon world, is what's being used here in WW. Ganon became the ruler of the corrupted Sacred Realm.

Now, whether or not OoT is the Seal War is debatable. As Smertios said, it was confirmed in 1998, but its possible that the directors have changed their minds since then. That quote was before the release of WW and TP after all.

[sign of table]

This proves not only that LttP BS is the SW and that LttP has to come in the AT, but also that LoZ/AoL have to, as well... I think you forgot to mention that those quotes are only valid up until 2002, when TWW was released. After that it's no more than theory.

[Smertios]

Hmm, those quotes are still valid unless you can provide new ones saying that the intent changed...

[Zemen]

Hmm, those quotes are still valid unless you can provide new ones saying that the intent changed...

I have to agree with this. If the creators have never come out and said "we were wrong" and if there is no OBVIOUS in game event that shows they were wrong, then we can really only assume that it still stands true.

[Erimgard]

Well the fact is, in order to preserve things like OoT-LoZ-AoL-aLttP, a lot of speculation is involved because of WW and TP both sequeling OoT.

[sign of table]

Hmm, those quotes are still valid unless you can provide new ones saying that the intent changed... Remind me, then. Why isn't FS first on your timeline?

[Zemen]

Remind me, then. Why isn't FS first on your timeline?

Because there is obvious, in game stuff in MC that suggests that MC may NOT be first and if MC is not first then FS can't be first. Also, FSA implies that FS is a direct prequel to it (it suggests that it's the same Link) and if this is the case and FS is a direct prequel then it can't be first because FSA is definitely not first. I still believe MC to be first. I'm sketchy on where I put FS.

[sign of table]

Also, FSA implies that FS is a direct prequel to it And LttP heavily implies (and with the manual out-right says) that Ganon has been stuck in the Sacred Realm from the SW to LttP.

So which is it. Disregard FS as first because of FSA and believe OoT is still the SW because of a 1998 quote even though TWW destroyed those connections in 2002. Or disregard both of those?

[Zemen]

And LttP heavily implies (and with the manual out-right says) that Ganon has been stuck in the Sacred Realm from the SW to LttP.

GBA ALTTP has the palace of the Four Sword in the SR. At the end of FSA, Ganon is trapped in the Four Sword, so if the Four Swords palace is in the SR, which GBA ALTTP shows it is, then it's not crazy to think that Ganon was sealed in the SR, but also sealed in the Four Sword. This would mean that if he escapes the Four Sword, he can still turn the SW into the DW since once he escapes the Four Sword he is still in the SW. Seeing as how GBA ALTTP is a retcon of the original, this is probably the best theory.

[Smertios]

Remind me, then. Why isn't FS first on your timeline?

Because never ever ever a FS developer said it comes frst in the timeline. Especially not the head script writer of FS...

[Zemen]

Well they have said they "think" it's the oldest (first) game in the series, but I don't recall who said it. I think it was Miyamoto.

[Onilink89]

Yeah i think with "Dark Realm" that its the sacred realm that he tainted when he touced the triforce in OOT. But yes, these minor quotes bring a lot of confusion. Especialy in windwaker.

[Erimgard]

Well they have said they "think" it's the oldest (first) game in the series, but I don't recall who said it. I think it was Miyamoto.

It was Aonuma.
And do you know what he said immediately prior to that? He said he was working on pulling all the games together and making the timeline clearer, but he hasn't done it yet.

That FS quote can safely be discarded. When someone outright says that the timeline isn't all fit together yet, but we think this game might go here...it's not a very strong indicator at all.

[Zemen]

It was Aonuma.
And do you know what he said immediately prior to that? He said he was working on pulling all the games together and making the timeline clearer, but he hasn't done it yet.

That FS quote can safely be discarded. When someone outright says that the timeline isn't all fit together yet, but we think this game might go here...it's not a very strong indicator at all.


But it IS an indicator when none else are given. It can't be discarded just because they haven't completely confirmed it yet. They haven't denied what they said, or confirmed it, but the fact that they said it without denying it leads me to believe that there is more of a chance that they still believe it.

[Erimgard]

Well if you consider that FS' immediate sequel (FSA) doesn't line up well with Ocarina of Time, I'd say that's enough to discard an FS---OoT timeline.

[Zemen]

Well if you consider that FS' immediate sequel (FSA) doesn't line up well with Ocarina of Time, I'd say that's enough to discard an FS---OoT timeline.

But FSA being an IMMEDIATE sequel to FS is not for sure. If it was 100% proven to be a direct sequel, then no one would put FS before OoT.

This is my theory. Read it if you want. They thought FS would be the prequel to OoT. This was before FSA came out, obviously. When FSA came out, and if they wanted it to be a direct sequel to FS, then they knew that FS couldn't be first. That's why MC was made, so they could have the Four Sword be the begining for Link. That's just my theory, though.

[Erimgard]

Well I'd rather not get into an MC-placement debate in a thread about WW's Dark World :P

[Zemen]

Well I'd rather not get into an MC-placement debate in a thread about WW's Dark World :P

WW's Dark World? I don't recall WW having a Dark World..

[Erimgard]

WW's Dark World? I don't recall WW having a Dark World..
I'm talking about the quote we're all discussing. WW calls Ganon the "Emperor of the Dark Realm". We don't see it, obviously, but it's the "realm of evil" from OoT; the corrupted Sacred Realm.

[MrMosley]

I'm playing through WW right now, and I just ran upon the quote from the King. It is somewhat misleading, especially to those who have played prior Zelda titles. I don't think that Nintendo makes quotes out to be very hard to figure out. A lot of kids play these games, and some that don't really put a lot of time into desyphering everything word for word.

When the King says the quote, he says "the very same Ganon", which is to imply that he is the same one from another event. He also refers to Ganon being the Emperor of the Dark World as an "ancient legend". This event would have to obviously be known, and when I read it my immediate thought was ALttP. We all know that logically, it would be impossible to have known about the events of ALttP during WW, seeing as how A.) They haven't happend yet, and B.) In my opinion, ALttP is on a different timeline than WW altogether. And to be an ancient legend, it would have to have taken place a long time ago.

My guess is they messed up. At least that's how it seems to me. It is as if they wanted to say that Ganon was sealed in the Sacred Realm at the end of OoT (which they never called it that, they called it the Evil Realm), and that when he was sealed, he became the emperor of the now Dark World which is known to those who have played ALttP. Its contradictory in my opinion.

[zzRICHzz]

i''m kinda thinking that when they talk about him being an "Emperor of the dark world" i think they meant the time that he ruled over hyrule for those seven years in OoT..

i think that because in OoT, when he goes into the Sacred Realm he get the Triforce... and doesn't Sheik tell Link that the Sacred Realm bacame the Dark Realm?? I always kinda thought that the Evil Realm that they talk about at the end OoT was the the Sacred Realm turned Dark because of Ganon...

so i guess i'm kinda implying that the Sacred Realm, the Evil Realm and the Dark World are all the same

just my thought i can't say for sure though... i'm trying to play through each game again so i can come up with a theory of my own

[basement24]

When the King says the quote, he says "the very same Ganon", which is to imply that he is the same one from another event.

That's very interesting, I didn't remember that line. It does throw a bit of a wrench in the works (well, some of the works I suppose) when it comes down to placement and such. One thing I often wonder is if there could be a mis-translation from the original non-English text. It could be possible that when it's translated, they take some phrases that have more key wording to them and generalize them into English phrases that don't have the exact same meaning. (Which would throw even more wrenches into the matter... Ug!)

[Erimgard]

Um "the very same" is referring to OoT.
WW's backstory is OoT...I thought that was pretty obvious.

[MrMosley]

Um "the very same" is referring to OoT.
WW's backstory is OoT...I thought that was pretty obvious.

Everyone knows that WW's backstory is what took place in OoT. That's not the point exactly. The thing is that the King of Red Lions speaks of Ganondorf as if he is giving multiple examples of who he is. When he mentions "Emperor of the Dark World", it is as if he is moving onto another event from the previous one he mentioned, which was something about him entering the Sacred Realm and obtaining the Triforce, then being beated by it in the end. "Emperor of the Dark World" most closely refers to Ganon during ALttP.

[Erimgard]

His name is...Ganon...

...He who obtained the power of the gods,
attempted to cover the land in darkness,
and was ultimately sealed away by the
very power he hoped to command.

He is the very same Ganon...
The emperor of the dark realm the ancient
legends speak of...
Doesn't sound like he's referencing multiple Ganons to me. He's just clarifying that he's the guy from the legends. It's possible there are other "Ganons" in the world. I'm sure most evil dictators on Earth have had people with the same name as them.

[Zemen]

Yeah, it sounds to me like they are just explaining who he is. I don't see any indication of multiple Ganons in that quote.

[MrMosley]

Yeah, it sounds to me like they are just explaining who he is. I don't see any indication of multiple Ganons in that quote.

Not multiple Ganons; multiple examples of who he is. The very same Ganon, implying that he is the same one that did the next event explained. In this case, he explains Ganon first by telling the story of him gaining access to the SR, therefore obtaining the Triforce, but ultimately being defeated by Link, helped by Zelda, who had the other two pieces. This references OoT. Then, the next quote begins with "the very same Ganon", and goes on to explain him being emperor of the Dark World. In this case, the King is seemingly explaining a separate event, which sounds to me like the events of ALttP. Again, since I, as well as most others, believe ALttP comes on a separate timeline or at least sometime after WW, this would be a continuation problem. I think they just messed up.

[Erimgard]

I don't think the directors messed up anything with that quote. I think you're just reading way too much into a oddly phrased paragraph.

[MrMosley]

I don't think the directors messed up anything with that quote. I think you're just reading way too much into a oddly phrased paragraph.

I'm not reading into it way too much at all. In fact, its a very simple thing to realize. I didn't set down and analyze the text and come up with "it sounds like ALttP". Anyone who has played the games would instantly realize that it sounds like the events from ALttP. The King is talking about important, well known events. Ganon as the Emperor of the Dark World in or after OoT, and before WW, is NOT a well known event.

[Erimgard]

Yes it is.
It's a tale past down in history. WW's intro tells the tale. It's clearly a known event, especially to Link, because he grew up on Outset Isle where the story of the Hero of Time sealing away the Evil One is a celebrated event.

It makes much more sense for the King to be referring to Ganon being sealed in OoT (which is a legend passed down in Link's island) than to be referring to Ganon being sealed pre-aLttP (which is never mentioned in WW).

[MrMosley]

Yes it is.
It's a tale past down in history. WW's intro tells the tale. It's clearly a known event, especially to Link, because he grew up on Outset Isle where the story of the Hero of Time sealing away the Evil One is a celebrated event.

It makes much more sense for the King to be referring to Ganon being sealed in OoT (which is a legend passed down in Link's island) than to be referring to Ganon being sealed pre-aLttP (which is never mentioned in WW).

Tell me then, at what point during OoT does it ever say that Ganon is the Emperor of the Dark World. Or at least some quote from some game that said that Ganon, during his time in OoT and before WW, was the Emperor of the Dark World.

The thing is, Ganon was only stated to be the Emperor of the Dark World during ALttP. At no point in OoT does it refer to him as the Emperor of the Dark World.

Once again, the quote sounds like ALttP's events. To anyone who has played that game and WW, they would make the connection. If not, this thread wouldn't have even been created. I can't name one person who has played the games that would read that quote and not think about ALttP; much less someone who has played them and would think about OoT before ALttP.

[Erimgard]

The thing is, Ganon was only stated to be the Emperor of the Dark World during ALttP. At no point in OoT does it refer to him as the Emperor of the Dark World.
He's never called "emperor of the Dark World" in aLttP either.

Both Ocarina of Time AND a Link to the Past say he's the "Maou" (literally Demon King, NoA translates as King of Evil, ususally) of the "Makai" (literally Demon World, NoA translates as Dark World, Dark Realm, World of Evil, etc)

[MrMosley]

He's never called "emperor of the Dark World" in aLttP either.

Both Ocarina of Time AND a Link to the Past say he's the "Maou" (literally Demon King, NoA translates as King of Evil, ususally) of the "Makai" (literally Demon World, NoA translates as Dark World, Dark Realm, World of Evil, etc)

See now your just arguing for the sake of arguing. Its obvious that Ganon rules the Dark World in ALttP. In OoT, it is not obvious. And I don't play or study the Japanese editions of the game and don't really plan to. The fact is that whether or not the game is Japanese, English, Spanish, whatever, it is an obvious thing that Ganon rules the Dark World (or is an Emperor, whatever) in ALttP and not in OoT. And I've said this now probably 5 times in different ways, so I'd rather not repeat myself time and time again.

The quote is more related to ALttP than OoT. Done.

[Gokou]

There was not a Dark World in OoT. The Dark World is the Golden land, only re created by Ganon when he used his wish from the Triforce.

[Erimgard]

See now your just arguing for the sake of arguing. Its obvious that Ganon rules the Dark World in ALttP. In OoT, it is not obvious.

Yes, it is. It's very, very, very obvious.


He went
on to invade the Sacred Realm...
Ganondorf had become the Evil
King, and the Sacred Realm
became a world of evil.

He became the Evil King and the Sacred Realm became a world of evil. The exact same word is used for "world of evil" as "dark realm" in Wind Waker.



He obtained the Triforce from
the Temple of Light, and with its
power, he became the King of Evil...
His evil power radiated from the
temples of Hyrule

He became the King of Evil, and the Temples (which are connected to the Sacred Realm) had evil power radiating out of them.


The Temple of Light, situated in
the very center of the Sacred
Realm, is the last stronghold
against Ganondorf's evil forces.
The Temple of Light is the only place in the Sacred Realm that Ganondorf and his evil forces don't have diminion over.

That quote in WW was meant to be about OoT, not aLttP. The entire concept of WW is tying up the loose ends of OoT, that's made obvious from the very second the game starts, with the backstory detailing the events of OoT. None of this is aLttP-exclusive, and there was never any intent to related WW to aLttP. If you wanna go on believing that the Directors "messed up" by putting in an aLttP reference, be my guest. But that reference is very clearly supposed to be about OoT.

[Master Kokiri 9]

If ALttP was between ww and oot then that would completly condradict the scroll sequence at the beginning of ww. The quote that would be condradicted is in the vid below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujEZQbBi2Yc

'But then... a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero... ...once again crept forth from the depths of the Earth, eager to resume it's dark designs. The people believed that the hero of time would again come to save them. ...But the hero did not appear.' This means that NO zelda game can fit between oot and ww. Just no flippin way. So basically alttp in no way relates to the 'Dark Realm' mentioned by korl in ww. The Dark Realm if anything was the Sacred Realm but corrupted.