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Zeanith
03-20-2009, 03:03 AM
They're alike in a lot of ways.

Both Alice and Link go into another world
by falling through a hole

They both meet strange people
some friends
some enemies

They both change in shape.
Alice grows large and small
And Link turns into other creatures.

Nintendo obviously takes a lot of inspiration from Alice. Mario eats mushrooms and grows large too. Thoughts?

DvSag
03-20-2009, 03:10 AM
In OoT, the guy running around Hyrule Castle Town quotes White Rabbit's most famous line:
"I'm late! I'm late! For a very important date!"

This character model also comes back for MM as the thief in Kafei and Anju's story.

Link 2 the past
03-20-2009, 05:30 AM
That;s the main reason a lot of people don't like this game. People don't seem to understand, diffirent isn't nessacerily wrong.

El Bagu
03-20-2009, 06:36 AM
Must have been at least 20 years since I last thought about Alice´s adventures so I can not say that I remember them all. But an interesting reflection it is and it could make sense, I believe the game creators often get their inspiration from tales etc. Interesting with a new idea :)

Skull_Kid
03-20-2009, 09:18 AM
Yes, it has a lot of things in common, and, I truly believe Nintendo used several ideas from it on several franchises, from Zelda to Mario

Axle the Beast
03-20-2009, 07:12 PM
Interesting. Never thought of it like that before, but I suppose you're right. Some of it could be coincidence, but probably not all of it, especially not that "I'm late" thing. When I first heard that I automatically remembered it from Alice.

I've seen lots of similarities between Zelda and other stories (such as the Master Sword and Excalibur,) so I guess this is one of those.

Kaynil
04-25-2009, 05:28 PM
I think the games has more inspiration from other stories than what many of us may guess.

We've seen it compare to Alice, to Peter Pan, the minish/Picori also reminded me of a tale.

ChargewithSword
04-25-2009, 05:30 PM
I think the games has more inspiration from other stories than what many of us may guess.

We've seen it compare to Alice, to Peter Pan, the minish/Picori also reminded me of a tale.

Did they remind you of the old legends of Leprechauns who help shoe makers with shoes?

Onilink89
04-25-2009, 07:07 PM
Its not rare to see other tales and even real life refrences from other cultures in the zelda series. Like El Bagu said, its like the creators get their inspiration from it, which is quite unique and cool. Some member think its a coincidence, but i think that even the smalest detail is put there intentionaly.

Some of them where already discussed here on ZD, but everytime someone discovers something new again.

angelkid
05-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Yes. I think your certainly right. There are alot of similarities here. Though there is one big difference. As far as i am aware, LoZ isn't about magic mushrooms lol.

This reminds me of the game Alice. Anyone ever play that? Sorry if I'm deviating from the topic, but it was an amazing game. Lol.

Zenox
05-06-2009, 07:29 PM
If you ask me, that's just a coincidence, and besides, you'd need more than three reasons to imply that Nintendo copies ideas from them. Other than your three (The second one is questionable, however) there are no other similarities that I can think of.

Axle the Beast
05-07-2009, 11:29 PM
Interesting point.

Another (sort of) similarity is that Link meets alternate versions of people he knew, whereas all the characters in Alice in Wonderland were based on people Lewis Carrol knew, such as friends and family. I suppose that's not quite a similarity, but... :sweat:

Anyway, normally I would be inclined to say this is just a coincidence, but you bring up some interesting points, especially about Mario and mushrooms.

blhand26
05-08-2009, 12:03 AM
I've seen lots of similarities between Zelda and other stories (such as the Master Sword and Excalibur,) so I guess this is one of those.

I think Nintendo has to get some kind of inspiration from somewhere! Am I right? I like how Axle the Beast showed the similarity between the Master Sword and Excalibur. Never thought of it before, maybe once. :thinking:
Nah! Anyways I like the Idea of comparing Zelda games to different tales, it's cool finding the similarities.
:):):)

Axle the Beast
05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
I think Nintendo has to get some kind of inspiration from somewhere! Am I right? I like how Axle the Beast showed the similarity between the Master Sword and Excalibur. Never thought of it before, maybe once. :thinking:
Nah! Anyways I like the Idea of comparing Zelda games to different tales, it's cool finding the similarities.
:):):)
I agree. It's not to say that different stories and ideas aren't original, but it's a fact that writers and artists very often get inspiration from other sources. These can wind up being very different (in fact, they usually do,) but they still were inspired.

And I think this happens a lot with Zelda. In fact, a lot of aspects come from older stories or cultures. Rupees, for example, were an actual type of currency in India, although they looked very different.

Detha
05-25-2009, 08:40 AM
I always got a bit more of a "Beyond the Looking Glass" vibe. After all, "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" was a grand adventure trip away from reality. That was Ocarina - even the White Rabbit was in it. =p

In this, many people look the same, but have different personalities and names. The story's a bit darker, and it's really just a trippier piece when everything's considered.

Sorry, I just like specifics.

Steve
05-25-2009, 09:40 AM
Another aspect that makes them related is their keen sense of color, they use harsh colors like greens, purples, and reds that really stand out. I guess the only major thing that separates Majora's Mask from Wonderland, is that Link didn't use acid to get there. (Or did he?) XD

midnightokami
07-05-2009, 09:27 AM
They're alike in a lot of ways.

Both Alice and Link go into another world
by falling through a hole

They both meet strange people
some friends
some enemies

They both change in shape.
Alice grows large and small
And Link turns into other creatures.

Nintendo obviously takes a lot of inspiration from Alice. Mario eats mushrooms and grows large too. Thoughts?

Wow a lot of similarities. I just its a coincidence cause I never thought of similarities to zelda games. Thinking of majoras mask, I never finished it yet. It just doesn't feel like a zelda game at all.

ChargewithSword
07-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Has anyone also ever felt a Cheshire Cat similarity in the Keaton considering he pops out of nowhere and seems to have considerable knowledge, however he doesn't share it.

The Dekus could also be seen as the flowers of Alice since they do not take a liking to those who are not one of their own and they are plant like.

arkvoodle
07-07-2009, 03:39 PM
They're alike in a lot of ways.

Both Alice and Link go into another world
by falling through a hole

They both meet strange people
some friends
some enemies

They both change in shape.
Alice grows large and small
And Link turns into other creatures.

Nintendo obviously takes a lot of inspiration from Alice. Mario eats mushrooms and grows large too. Thoughts?

wow that is alot of similarities. it could be a coincidence, but i think nintendo did really want to make Majora's Mask to Alice in Wonderland. Certain parts of the story are like certain parts of AiW.
e.g.
keaton- Cheshire cat.
Deku - those flower peple who don't like anyone else than their own kind.

Waker of winds
07-07-2009, 09:26 PM
I think I once read something about MM being inspired in Alice in Wonderland. Something I remember is that they seem alike because they both enter to another world through a hidden portal by chasing someone, in this case, the rabbit and Skull Kid.

Master Kokiri 9
08-22-2009, 05:23 PM
I never noticed the similarities. STUPID STUPID STU OBEY WEEGEE!

CZG
12-16-2009, 10:37 AM
I also noted this. I love Alice in Wonderland!
They are all people who work at video games, but they live in your world too.

23 is number 1!

Mikenike
12-16-2009, 10:44 AM
I lol'd very good eye! I don't think they got the idea from it but it is a very strage coincidence.

CZG
12-17-2009, 08:16 AM
How about some legandary hero pulling a sword out of a pedestal while no one else could do so....
Now where did I hear THAT before?

Link1
01-01-2012, 09:37 PM
Iv always loved alice in wonderland and majoras mask (which got me started on zelda) i never relized the connection untill you said something about it... thats really neat thanks.

Heriod77777
01-01-2012, 11:35 PM
Wow a lot of similarities. I just its a coincidence cause I never thought of similarities to zelda games. Thinking of majoras mask, I never finished it yet. It just doesn't feel like a zelda game at all.

You should definitely finish it! Its a great Zelda game and even though you probably haven't got anywhere out side Clock Town you should still work at it. It might even get to be one of your favorites. Also, that is probably just a coincidence that it is like Alice in Wonderland. Zelda looks like it copies everything: Robin Hoods green clothes, Chuchus and other enemies don't take the same names like other games. 4! This number is used a lot in the game, and in Chinese 4 sounds like death which made it start some numeral religion. (got that 4 thing from Artemis Fowl Atlantis Complex)