My Ganon's Ashes theory

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I made this theory over on ZU so I thought I should also bring it here.

http://www.zeldalegends.net/files/text/z2translation/z2_manual_story.html
That is the translated japanese manual.

Ganon would be revived by sacrificing Link and sprinkling his blood on the ashes of Ganon. Now with that we can conclude that NOTHING else is needed to resurrect Ganon if he has his ashes. In OoX Twinrova had to do a large ritual to call Ganon's soul into the "Yorishiro" I'll explain the Yorishiro and other stuff another time/thread. They aren't important to this theory.

So why did they have to call Ganon's spirit/soul into something for one ritual without ashes and the just have to sprinkle blood onto the ashes for another ritual? I could only think of one explanation for that and that is that Ganon's soul is actually in the ashes after LoZ.

The ToP is found sitting in the ashes which leads me to believe that the ToP caused the ashes.

Short theory, I know. But I thought I should bring it here and see what you guys think.

[Midna666]

Interesting theory,but I think it's wrong.
I think Link killing Ganon with the silver arrows is what caused the ashes.

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There were no ashes in LttP. And the Silver Arrows were used then, too.

Were you just commenting on what caused the ashes?

What do you think about the Soul-in-the-Ashes concept.

[Midna666]

There were no ashes in LttP. And the Silver Arrows were used then, too.

Were you just commenting on what caused the ashes?

What do you think about the Soul-in-the-Ashes concept.

True,but Ganon was killed in the Dark World in ALTTP.

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Why would being in the DW cause his entire body to be destroyed instead of leaving ashes?

Also, in game text says that the only way to kill Ganon is to use Silver Arrows. Why would there be ashes left because of the only true way to kill him?

[Midna666]

Being in the Dark World could have made a difference,we will never know.
And I know that the silver arrows are the one true way to kill Ganon,which is why I like the idea that they turned Ganon into ashes.

[blackice_cc]

Well, in LoZ Ganon turned to ashes after he 'died'. That's obviously where the idea came from in AoL. But as for why that didn't happen in ALttP, well, I really don't know. There could have been ashes, just that we didn't see them. Beyond that, I've no clue.

Also, my guess is that the Twinrova, in OoX, had to do a completely different ritual simply because they didn't have Ganon's ashes. Perhaps they were destroyed in AoL.

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Exactly. And they had to call Ganon's soul for that ritual. But all they had to do for the AoL resurrection is sprinkle Link's blood on the ashes. Which leads me to believe that his soul is in the ashes.

Ganon doesn't have the ToP in LttP.

[MrMosley]

Actually, the Silver Arrows do not kill Ganon in ALttP, the Master Sword does. The arrows are simply used to stun him. In LoZ, the arrow was the thing that killed Ganon. Just wanted to clear that up.

Personally I don't think much of the classic games' storylines like that. His soul being in the ashes? If that was the case his soul would have just hopped up and possesed something else. Some people like to think he possesed Dark Link, but I don't think thats true at all. If he could do that, he would have done it long before Link got around to reaching the Great Palace.

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^No.

Ganon is stunned by the MS then killed by the SAs. Japanese text and in game evidence agree with me on this.

[MrMosley]

^No.

Ganon is stunned by the MS then killed by the SAs. Japanese text and in game evidence agree with me on this.

Right, right. My bad. I had just played ALttP all the way through, just to get to the Palace of the Four Sword and I got that confused.

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So is no one gonna comment on whether this is a good theory, or not?

[Smertios]

I don't like this theory much. In my opinion the ashes are just ashes...

[Pinecove]

Actually, the Silver Arrows do not kill Ganon in ALttP, the Master Sword does. The arrows are simply used to stun him. In LoZ, the arrow was the thing that killed Ganon. Just wanted to clear that up.
That is wrong. He is stunned by the MS and killed by the SAs.


Being in the Dark World could have made a difference,we will never know.

Not really. If anything it would have made ashes apear because he's in his Maki.

My theory: The ToP causes the ashes.

[MrMosley]

That is wrong. He is stunned by the MS and killed by the SAs.

Dude, we already clarified that I messed that up. (read about two posts up)

But anyway, I don't think the theory is possible either. I just think they wanted to put ashes there to show he desintegrated. Plus, the Triforce of Power had to have some way of standing up; why not stick it in a big filthy pile of Ganon ash?

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^If they just wanted to put ashes there for show why weren't there ashes in LttP?

[MrMosley]

^If they just wanted to put ashes there for show why weren't there ashes in LttP?

Well obviously because they didn't want them. I mean thats pretty self explanatory. I'm sure if they wanted them in ALttP, they woulda put them there. They didn't, so they didn't.

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Why would they not want them, though? They had them in LoZ and BS LoZ. And all rereleases of LoZ since. But have never had the ashes in AST or LttP.

[MrMosley]

Why would they not want them, though? They had them in LoZ and BS LoZ. And all rereleases of LoZ since. But have never had the ashes in AST or LttP.

By releases you mean ports. All the Collector's Edition and Gameboy LoZ's were, were just ports of the original. It wouldn't make sense for them to go back and take something out for no reason. BS Zelda was somewhat of a remake, so they remade what was already in the original.

Like I previously stated, Ganon's ashes held up the Triforce of Power. Those were basically they're only purpose. Yeah they used the whole Ganon's ashes thing in AoL, and I guess they did that because there were some, but they just didn't want to use them in ALttP. They aren't all that important of a thing to "have" to include.

They just didn't want them obviously. Just like they didn't want you to be able to access the Triforce in OoT like you did in ALttP, LoZ, and AoL. All those games you actually touched the Triforce, held it up, or whatever, and they didn't use that in OoT just because it wasn't necessary. Of course the Triforce is a bit more important than a pile of Ganon ash, but still its another example.

[Mike Pothier]

1) There could be multiple ways of bringing Ganon back.

2) The story for AoL states that Link had to be sacrificed first. Maybe he had to be sacrificed in a specific manner. We don't know the details.

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^It only said he had to be sacrificed so that they could sprinkle his blood on the ashes. He didn't have to be sacrificed in any special way because in the game itself if you die Ganon comes back. Without any special sacrifice. (of course that is gameplay. But it is still canon)

[Mike Pothier]

Link dying is definitely not canon. So I wouldn't trust a game over screen. Of course, you could be right, and he just needs to be killed. But my first point still stands, there are multiple ways of bringing Ganon back, so whether his soul is in his ahes is really moot.