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Judai
01-02-2009, 01:15 PM
(Sorry. Dunno where to post this).

I have seen it a lot around the forums, and right now it's really pissing me off. So, I'm going to make a short thread about what the Triforce is and it's meaning.

In the beginning, blah blah blah, there was three goddesses who descended from their world to make a new one. Din, the Goddess of Power and the red Earth. Nayru, the Goddess of Wisdom, Time, and Law. And Farore, the Goddess of Courage and the creator of all life forms on this world. When they departed they formed a Triangular shaped item: the Triforce.

Now, what people are beginning to think is why there is an empty space in the center of the triangle? It must be a 4th piece, right? WRONG.

Tri = Three. That means a 3 forced item. Yes, it is in the shape of a triangle, and yes it has a missing center, but name another shape that has three sides. Hard to find yes? That's the reason it's a Triforce. If it was a quadforce, it would be a diamond or a square, not a triangle. Plus, what would this 4th piece be called? You already have the three that make a good Hero, Ruler, etc: Power, Wisdom, Courage.

Through courage you learn wisdom from recklessness. From Wisdom you get the power to do things. From Power you get courage to stand against things. It's a cycle.

So basically this thread is telling you the meaning of Triforce. Not because it is a triangle, but it is because of the three forces it represents.

Skull_Kid
01-02-2009, 01:17 PM
my siggie thing has that:P
well... it is pretty sure that these three things were meant to create a cycle... like there can't be one without another

Zemen
01-02-2009, 04:01 PM
im not saying i believe in a 4th piece, but just for kicks and just to keep this discussion blooming, ill present some stances that could go against whats been said.

triforce could mean one of three things. it could either refer to the number of pieces that make it up, it could refer to the shape, or it could refer to how many sides it has.

now with this in mind, if there was a fourth piece that went into the middle, it would still be a triangle, except it would be a solid triangle. if its still a triangle then the only one of those three explanations of its name that would not make sense is if it referred to the number of pieces to it. if the fourth piece was put in the middle it could still be called the triforce because it would still be a triangle and it would still have three sides. you are only looking at the name in one respect.

also, in regards of what the fourth pieces power would be, i think that if there was a fourth piece of it would be the triforce of hope.

hope could tie into any of the other three triforce pieces perfectly.

ganondorf gets the triforce of power to try and rule the world. he isnt 100% sure that he will succeed so he has to hope that he has enough power, thus hope ties in with power.

Zelda hopes she has the wisdom needed to protect her kingdom, thus hope ties in with wisdom.

link's amazing courage is what gives hope to everyone that they may be saved, thus hope ties in to courage.

hope would most certainly keep the cycle going.

From Power you hope that you will maintain such power. from hope you gain the courage to do things you may not have done before. from courage you gain wisdom by taking risks and putting yourself out there. from wisdom you gain the power needed to be a leader. and the cycle continues.

you cant have any of those without the other. and you especially cant have courage without hope.

as i said before, i am not saying i believe in the 4th piece. this is just something to discuss.

blackice_cc
01-02-2009, 04:25 PM
Zemen, what you said about there being three possibilities, there are only two. The Triangle is the only shape with three sides, therefore whether referring to shape or amount of sides it would be the same thing.

But also, why would there be three Goddesses and four powers? Like Judai said, it's the Triforce, which makes it very likely that it's 3 forces. I suppose it could mean that it's a three sided/Triangle force, but it's always Triforce, not triangle force.

Judai
01-02-2009, 05:23 PM
As well, if there was a fourth piece, where was the goddess or god?

Zemen
01-02-2009, 07:33 PM
Zemen, what you said about there being three possibilities, there are only two. The Triangle is the only shape with three sides, therefore whether referring to shape or amount of sides it would be the same thing.

But also, why would there be three Goddesses and four powers? Like Judai said, it's the Triforce, which makes it very likely that it's 3 forces. I suppose it could mean that it's a three sided/Triangle force, but it's always Triforce, not triangle force.


why would it be called the triangle force? that just sounds silly. triforce is much cooler and lets figure this out...TRIforce...TRIangle. not that hard to figure out.



As well, if there was a fourth piece, where was the goddess or god?


to answer this, lets just say that the fourth piece represents hope.

hope doesnt need to be governed by anyone/anything. hope is just there. when the three goddesses made the world and the triforce, they made hope as well. hope for a better or worse future. courage, power and wisdome have to be made, but from those comes hope on its own. hope is created by the ones who control courage, power and wisdom and the people who control courage, power and wisdom were created by the goddesses.

also, this is a theory that some have. they think the fourth piece was created by a dark goddesses who was banished from the world and so was the fourth goddesses piece of the triforce.

Judai
01-02-2009, 08:19 PM
Still, it doesn't matter. There is no fourth piece, and you would think over 20+ years of Zelda, they would REVEAL it? ALTTP and OOT both said three goddesses made Hyrule. ONLY THREE DESCENDED AND ONLY THREE MADE IT!

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10130/02~9.jpg

Linkmaster
01-02-2009, 11:03 PM
I always thought it would be cool to have a fourth piece, but I also realized it would not make any sense. So I don't think there is a fourth piece. Would still be cool though.

MrMosley
01-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Triforce originally meant the shape. TRIangle and its a source of power, or force. I am not sure if they had the story made that there existed another piece during LoZ, but I highly doubt it. This was a time where gaming was just recovering from close to extinction, so Nintendo probably had no intention of a part 2 until they realized how good part 1 done.

Therefore, since a third piece was not though until the second game, the original meaning comes from its shape, of course, because you cant make a full triangle with just two pieces. And even still when there are three pieces which "tri" can apply to, they each individually have names (Triforce of Courage, Triforce of Power, Triforce of Wisdom). So since each one in itself is known as the Triforce of whatever, its obviously still for the shape of the objects.

Zemen
01-03-2009, 01:28 AM
Still, it doesn't matter. There is no fourth piece, and you would think over 20+ years of Zelda, they would REVEAL it? ALTTP and OOT both said three goddesses made Hyrule. ONLY THREE DESCENDED AND ONLY THREE MADE IT!

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10130/02~9.jpg


chill out man. dont need to bite peoples heads off. this is a discussion on peoples ideas on the topic. there are a lot of things in the zelda univrse that have not been explained in the past 20 years of its existence. just calm down, maybe take a nice hot bath or something and stop freaking out.

also, as i said before, if the fourth triforce is something like the triforce of hope, then there is no need for a goddess to make it. by creating the other three pieces of the triforce, hope is indirectly made.



Triforce originally meant the shape. TRIangle and its a source of power, or force. I am not sure if they had the story made that there existed another piece during LoZ, but I highly doubt it. This was a time where gaming was just recovering from close to extinction, so Nintendo probably had no intention of a part 2 until they realized how good part 1 done.

Therefore, since a third piece was not though until the second game, the original meaning comes from its shape, of course, because you cant make a full triangle with just two pieces. And even still when there are three pieces which "tri" can apply to, they each individually have names (Triforce of Courage, Triforce of Power, Triforce of Wisdom). So since each one in itself is known as the Triforce of whatever, its obviously still for the shape of the objects.

this is a great observation. its obviously called the TRIforce because of the triangular shape and not because of the number of pieces that make it up.

the triforce of courage isnt made up of 3 different pieces so it obviously refers to the shape of it. same for the other two pieces.

blackice_cc
01-03-2009, 09:27 AM
also, as i said before, if the fourth triforce is something like the triforce of hope, then there is no need for a goddess to make it. by creating the other three pieces of the triforce, hope is indirectly made.

If hope is indirectly made like that, what's the point of a Triforce of hope? Hope is not an attribute you can gain, as Courage, Power and Wisdom are. Everyone hopes. It is not so easy to have any of the Triforce attributes, but hope, everyone already has.

And yes, I suppose that makes sense Dark_link01. But that does not prove that a fourth piece is there.

Zemen
01-03-2009, 09:32 AM
If hope is indirectly made like that, what's the point of a Triforce of hope? Hope is not an attribute you can gain, as Courage, Power and Wisdom are. Everyone hopes. It is not so easy to have any of the Triforce attributes, but hope, everyone already has.

And yes, I suppose that makes sense Dark_link01. But that does not prove that a fourth piece is there.

but hope is something that is hard to gain. take MM for example. everyone thought they were gonna die. there was not one person who thought "maybe we CAN survive this"
no, most of them were basically just waiting to die. there was very little hope.

and also, thats the point. you asked why there would need to be a fourth piece for hope if its so easy to obtain. maybe thats the point for the missing triangle. you dont need to obtain hope. you just need to inately have it.

blackice_cc
01-03-2009, 09:50 AM
but hope is something that is hard to gain. take MM for example. everyone thought they were gonna die. there was not one person who thought "maybe we CAN survive this"
no, most of them were basically just waiting to die. there was very little hope.

and also, thats the point. you asked why there would need to be a fourth piece for hope if its so easy to obtain. maybe thats the point for the missing triangle. you dont need to obtain hope. you just need to inately have it.

It Sounded to me like you were just saying there is no fourth piece right there. If there isn't a need for any godly way to gain hope, than why would there be a Triforce for it? That was basically what you just said, it seems.

Anyways, there was hope in MM. Many of the town people were leaving, and trying to escape the impending doom of the moon crashing into their world. If they had no hope, they would just sit there and wait to die. But no, they hoped they could get far enough away to be safe.

Zemen
01-03-2009, 09:02 PM
It Sounded to me like you were just saying there is no fourth piece right there. If there isn't a need for any godly way to gain hope, than why would there be a Triforce for it? That was basically what you just said, it seems.

Anyways, there was hope in MM. Many of the town people were leaving, and trying to escape the impending doom of the moon crashing into their world. If they had no hope, they would just sit there and wait to die. But no, they hoped they could get far enough away to be safe.

thats not true. when the airplane flew into the twin towers, people were jumping out of the collapsing building. now when you jump from the 60th floor of a collapsing building i dont think you are hoping to live, infact im pretty sure they knew they were gonna die either way. when your life is threatened, or even when your life is SURELY gonna be taken away no matter what, people still have this instinct to try and protect themselves whether they have hope or not.

all im saying is, if there is a fourth piece and if that fourth piece represents hope, the reason it doesnt show itself is maybe because there isnt much hope. maybe its a metaphor (if it even exists). a metaphor that there are very few people in the world willing to stand up to evil and that everyone else just loses hope. the only time in the zelda games when people have hope is after they have seen the courage link displays. you make it sound like hope is easy to come by, but you have to remember its a videogame and you cant take everything as literal as it would be in the real world.

and just so you know, you said that everyone hopes so it would be pointless but the same goes for the other triforce powers.

you think link is the only person in the world who is courageous?

you think zelda is the only wise person in the world?

you think ganondorf is the only person in the world who has great power?

everyone is wise in their own way. there are a lot of people who display great feats of courage. there are plenty of people in the zelda series that have great power.

there are a lot of powerful characters in Zelda but ganondorf gets the triforce of power.

there are many wise people that link runs into in his adventures but zelda gets the triforce of wisdom.

there are plenty of courageous people that help link on his quest but hes the one who gets the triforce of courage.

with that in mind, why cant there be plenty of people who have hope but only one person who gets the triforce of hope?

Judai
01-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Do not bring in a 9/11 discussion here.

There is no fourth triforce piece! I am telling you, because if there was, WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO MENTION IT YET?!

Zemen
01-03-2009, 09:15 PM
Do not bring in a 9/11 discussion here.

There is no fourth triforce piece! I am telling you, because if there was, WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO MENTION IT YET?!

i didnt bring in a 9/11 discussion. i used an analogy and a pretty good one at that. dont tell me what i can and cant post because as long as im following the rules of the website, i can post whatever i want.

and dont say that there is no fourth piece of the trifoce. if youre sick of reading what we have to say about it then stop reading or responding to anything we are saying. its a friendly discussion and you are getting angry. by the way, your posts dont contribute to this discussion at all so all youre doing is spamming, which is against the rules of the website.

one more thing, dont get mad at me. i never once said i believe that there is a fourth triforce piece. all i did was introduce an idea for people to discuss and youre freaking out over it.

the fact that nintendo hasnt mentioned it yet doesnt mean anything. you never know what to expect from the zelda series. there are a lot of unexplained things in the zelda series that are hinted at but may never be explained.

here is your question "if there was a fourth piece why hasnt it been mentioned yet?"

it goes both ways "if there ISNT a fourth piece then how come that hasnt been confirmed either?"


both questions are very valid. as long as there is even the tiniest bit of evidence that there might be a fourth piece, you will never be able to convince everyone there isnt. deal with it and move on with your life.

Josh
01-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Was this even supposed to be a replied to thread? Meh.

Now. To bring the unhappiness in this thread down a little bit, I'll post what I think about a fourth Triforce piece.

I think, that you people are crazy and are trying to get a discussion out of something that shouldn't be a discussion.

Even going through my head in the 5 seconds I've thought about it, there's so much against it. The TRIforce, the three Goddesses, Hell wouldn't Ganon be after a Quadforce instead of a Triforce? I assume the Quadforce would come with more power, so unless he's a complete idiot.......

And don't bring this argument in here:


here is your question "if there was a fourth piece why hasnt it been mentioned yet?"

it goes both ways "if there ISNT a fourth piece then how come that hasnt been confirmed either?"

Because that ones really stupid. It's basically the same as asking if there is a God, why haven't we seen him?

Yaup.

MrMosley
01-03-2009, 10:27 PM
And yes, I suppose that makes sense Dark_link01. But that does not prove that a fourth piece is there.

Nah, I don't believe there is a fourth piece. The middle isn't necessarily of importance, because I mean you can't stick three triangles together to make a larger triangle without having a missing triangle in the middle :puppy:

It would be a nice twist to add some history to a possible fourth piece, but thus far there is not one. The design of the sheilds and such was obviously just for decoration. It could have had some sort of meaning like if the eagle was Link carrying it, or the eagle representing the Hyrule Royal Family carrying a piece (since it is handed down through Zelda).

Zemen
01-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Was this even supposed to be a replied to thread? Meh.

Now. To bring the unhappiness in this thread down a little bit, I'll post what I think about a fourth Triforce piece.

I think, that you people are crazy and are trying to get a discussion out of something that shouldn't be a discussion.

Even going through my head in the 5 seconds I've thought about it, there's so much against it. The TRIforce, the three Goddesses, Hell wouldn't Ganon be after a Quadforce instead of a Triforce? I assume the Quadforce would come with more power, so unless he's a complete idiot.......

And don't bring this argument in here:



Because that ones really stupid. It's basically the same as asking if there is a God, why haven't we seen him?

Yaup.

im pretty sure that its easy to argue what the TRI part of TRIforce means. if you stuck a piece in the middle it would still be a TRIangle, thus keeping it a TRIforce.

each individual piece of the triforce is still called the triforce of ____ but those pieces arent made up of three different pieces so why are they still called the TRIforce? because they are TRIangles.

and im ****ing sick of you assuming what i think. i never ****ing said i believe in a fourth piece. a thread was started about the meaning of the name triforce and the idea of the fourth piece. if it wasnt meant to discuss then why make the thread? dont ****ing tell me what i can and cant argue and dont ****ing try to bash me when i never even said i believe in a fourth piece. im sick of people who do that. all i ****ing did was introduce an idea and you treat me like a moron for doing exactly what im supposed to be doing in a discussion, displaying all possibilities.

Josh
01-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Gawd. Now who's the one getting angry?

And I never exactly said you believed in it either. The closest thing I could find was you people, which doesn't really have to mean you does it? There's plenty of other people that have replied to this thread.

Zemen
01-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Gawd. Now who's the one getting angry?

And I never exactly said you believed in it either. The closest thing I could find was you people, which doesn't really have to mean you does it? There's plenty of other people that have replied to this thread.

im pretty sure (and by pretty sure i mean i know for a fact) that every other person who replied to this thread is against a fourth triforce piece which means that you saying you people was, indeed, aimed towards me.

Josh
01-03-2009, 10:47 PM
Or. I could also try to bring this one on you.

There are plenty of other people in the world that do believe in the "Quadforce", and you people could have been a generalization of the people that do believe in it. Got anything against that one?

Zemen
01-03-2009, 10:55 PM
Or. I could also try to bring this one on you.

There are plenty of other people in the world that do believe in the "Quadforce", and you people could have been a generalization of the people that do believe in it. Got anything against that one?

you said you people, talking about those who believe in the quadforce. i am the only one here who is presenting even the slightest information that would be pro-quadforce. everyone else is talking against it and has stated they are against it. seeing as how no one here believes in it, why would you say you people if there was no believers of the quadforce discussing in this thread? you said it because you believe me to be someone who believes in it even though i said numerous times i was only displaying evidence to keep the discussion going.

since im the only person here who has shown the slightest belief in the fourth piece, i would assume youre not dumb enough to say "you people" without you believing there are people like that discussing.

so either you said it because youre a complete idiot, or you said it because you were targeting me. hopefully youre not that much of an idiot but if you are then i apologize for snapping at you.

Link 2 the past
02-20-2009, 03:06 AM
Why is it called the Triforce?

Tri-is a numerical prefix meaning three. Three for three pieces you'd assume.
But in the original game there were only two pieces, but it's still called the Triforce.
The Triforce of Courage doesn't appear till Zelda 2, as well as the now well known image of the three pieces together in a triangle ().

Any know why it was called Triforce even when there were only two pieces?

bellum
02-20-2009, 08:41 PM
but the part you didn't answer is the force part why is it called the triforce most of us know about the Tri part of the meaning but what about force.

I think it has something to do with the powere of the three goddeses, Din, Farore, and Nayru and their powers creating force.

The meanings of force and Tri come together and make the Triforce

MrMosley
02-20-2009, 08:44 PM
A force is just a motion of power. Each individual pieces gives the bearer some kinda of power pertaining to its name: Power, Courage, and Wisdom. So in a way, it does kinda reflect the goddesses' powers.

As it has been said, the Triforce originally only had two pieces. This was before Nintendo even knew how successful LoZ would be, so of course they hadn't thought of a third piece at this time, yet still called it the Triforce. Therefore, the "Tri" obviously comes from its shape, a triangle. And "Force" would come from a movement or motion of power, being the power that each individual piece gives.

lonely_moon
02-20-2009, 09:01 PM
I don't get the whole "missing piece" thing. Why do people feel the need to fill an empty space all the time? The Triforce is an equilateral triangle, where all sides and angles are equal, made up of three smaller equilateral triangles. The very image of the Triforce conveys balance, and that if you have balance in all three aspects (Power, Wisdom and Courage), then you are a worthy hero, ruler, or you are simply a good person.

Besides, if something did fill in the middle spot, the Triforce would look like a whole that cannot be separated, when, in reality, the Triforce has separate parts. So portraying the Triforce as such would kind of contradict its mythology.

Chu
02-21-2009, 09:22 PM
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Hmm. the sum of the triforce is 540 ...
not mean't to offend anyone but


There is great significance placed upon the Triforce in the Legend of Zelda games, it is the sacred artifact that hold part of the Goddesses Power. If someone were to obtain the Triforce they would manifest one of the Powers according to their Heart's desire. For instance Gannon when he takes the Triforce it breaks and he receives great power, because he has the will and desire for domination within his heart. Zelda holds the Triforce of Wisdom and Link has the Triforce of Courage. Uniting these three parts The Triforce; Power, Wisdom and Courage would make Gannon unstoppable, A.K.A a god. That Gannon would destroy Hyrule and make a Dark World in its place. The Royal Family (Princess Zelda) and the seven sages are the protectors of the Sacred Realm and the Triforce. Link is the Destined Hero of Time who must take Heart (Courage) to defeat the evil Gannon once and for all (apparently c. 14 times) ---Lucky for us, playing the game gives Link the Courage to fight, as Link learns we learn wise things like " Every "Boss" has a weakness, usually Glowing and only left unprotected at regular intervals, Try using a weapon or Item you have collected or just keep slashing with your Master Sword till it dies...or till you notice the weak spot. Always have Medicine of Magic, and Fairies in your bottles you never know when you will need to be ressurected. " (For more check out the All I have learned, I have learned from the Legend of Zelda Facebook Group) And with this Knowledge/Wisdom Link gathers the Items he will need to have the Power to defeat Gannon. The Triforce is the combined powers of three Goddesses, upon the combination of the three 'Thirds' increases their power not merely by a power of three but by a much greater factor than that. Also known as a Tri-unity or Trinity. The connection between these three parts strengthens the whole. so for instance the three triangles of the Triforce when united represent the power of the Goddesses. separately, each triangle would raise your power, but together Godlike power is your to be claimed and used, for Good or Evil.

In the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past there is a Chruch that is called Sanctuary, where for a While the King and Zelda do take refuge. it looks like a Christian Church in all respects save one, The places where one would expect to see a Cross, have been replaced by the Triforce. Coincidence? maybe...But it does seem quite likely that this was done on purpose. Chruch=Sanctuary, A Safe Haven protected from Evil.

Perhaps we are supposed to think that the Triforce = The Cross in some fashion... :triforce: still not mean't to offend

MOS3
02-21-2009, 09:42 PM
Why is it called the Triforce?

Tri-is a numerical prefix meaning three. Three for three pieces you'd assume.
But in the original game there were only two pieces, but it's still called the Triforce.
The Triforce of Courage doesn't appear till Zelda 2, as well as the now well known image of the three pieces together in a triangle ().

Any know why it was called Triforce even when there were only two pieces?

Well, even if there's only 2 of them in LoZ, they're still shaped as a Triangle. That I believe is the reason for them to be called Triforce, in the sense that each of those Triangles is a Triforce in its on right, not a part of a bigger element, like in the games that came after.:)

LucarioMaster
02-23-2009, 07:45 AM
my siggie thing has that:P
well... it is pretty sure that these three things were meant to create a cycle... like there can't be one without another

right skull! its like fire you need 3 things : oxygen, heat, fuel (e.g gas, paper, wood etc.etc.) without one the flame goes out, same with the triforce if one of the gods dident exiest (like for example nayru without her the earth would have no atmosphere therefore faeore wouldent give lifeforms to uphold the law of the world) the triforce wouldent have enough parts or exist

zeldatwilight
03-02-2009, 07:10 PM
the Triforce is the sacred golden triangles that represent Power, Wisdom, and Courage. I think there a symbol for greed. Like in Twilight Princess, Link "killed" Illia just to get to it. I think the game is saying dont have greed over other things. only bad things will happen!

Bokbok567
03-17-2009, 10:01 PM
Well the creators made the triforce as a part of the game and they probably wanted it to look cool so they didn't include a middle peice also if the triforce is broken into parts well they didn't want a 4th peice also did anyone notice this (Din, the Goddess of Power and the red Earth = Goron. Nayru, the Goddess of Wisdom, Time, and Law = Zora. And Farore, the Goddess of Courage and the creator of all life forms on this world = Kokiri. I don't just mean this b/c of their colors, but could the middle be Hylian???

Chris
03-21-2009, 10:14 PM
Who would possibly think there is a fourth Triforce piece??? Only someone who has not played OoT thinks that I am guessing. I have always known that there are only 3 pieces to the Triforce and no other. It is so obvious because there are 3 goddesses which = 3 triforce pieces. I hope I never see anything about a 4th TRIforce piece.

blahhhhhhhh
03-14-2011, 09:16 PM
there weren't three pieces in the original, so its referring to the shape

Song of Storms
03-15-2011, 09:55 AM
some call the piece in the middle the Tetrforce but i think its not true....

Elvenknight
03-15-2011, 11:12 AM
A fourth Triforce is an interesting idea. I'd wager Nintendo will never confirm nor use it, but nothin' wrong with fantasizing. I agree with Zemen, that if there was a fourth Triforce, it would be hope. I'd be surprised if Nintendo ever said there is a fourth, though.

Ronald74
03-15-2011, 11:25 AM
Chuck Norris IS the fourth Triforce piece.

Just a quick joke, or is it? ;)


I wouldn't mind a fourth piece. Would bring a new character to the table.

Taggerung115
01-15-2012, 11:23 PM
It would be a nice twist to add some history to a possible fourth piece, but thus far there is not one. The design of the sheilds and such was obviously just for decoration. It could have had some sort of meaning like if the eagle was Link carrying it, or the eagle representing the Hyrule Royal Family carrying a piece (since it is handed down through Zelda).

I believe the eagle you are referring to is a loftwing.

Heriod77777
01-15-2012, 11:25 PM
I like the idea of a Triforce of Hope, but don't believe it. It never said in game that there was a fourth Triforce piece but never said there WASN'T. Hope ties wtih everything, Link is the most courageous person ever and with no hope he couldn't be like that. Zelda is wise, intelligent and if she had no hope Hyrule would of already been destroyed. Ganon has incredible strength, if he didn't believe he could get the Triforce he never would of done so. I like how I find things people don't say and then on the next post I see the thing I thought of what I was gonna say. If you don't have any wisdom, courage, or power you think everything as pointless and you will always lose. If you have lots of hope you will gain courage, power, wisdom. There is a fourth goddess * spoiler*
Zelda was the goddess reincarnated as a human in Skyward Sword. I believe she is like the goddess of goddesses to Din, Nayru, Farore. :nod:

Taggerung115
01-15-2012, 11:27 PM
Well the creators made the triforce as a part of the game and they probably wanted it to look cool so they didn't include a middle peice also if the triforce is broken into parts well they didn't want a 4th peice also did anyone notice this (Din, the Goddess of Power and the red Earth = Goron. Nayru, the Goddess of Wisdom, Time, and Law = Zora. And Farore, the Goddess of Courage and the creator of all life forms on this world = Kokiri. I don't just mean this b/c of their colors, but could the middle be Hylian???


Well, there is the goddess Hylia, also known as Her Grace.

When the gods of old departed from the world, they trusted their ultimate power, the Triforce in the hands of Her Grace to protect it. She ruled over the humans (who would later be known as the Hylians) and the five great races of the land.

Although she began as a divine entity, she was later, by her own choice, reborn into a mortal form and became the true ancestor to the Royal Family of Hyrule and explaining the magical powers passed down within their bloodline.

TheBlueReptile
01-16-2012, 07:26 AM
The TRI in triforce is not likely referring to the fact that there are three of them. Why? Because even when split into three fragments each one is still called A triforce. Due to this it is most likely referring to it's shape.

I'm not a tetraforce kinda guy, but people very rarely present solid evidence that it is wrong. People use the three Goddesses argument yet forget that a fourth Goddess (who would most likely be a rebelling Goddess if you ask me) may well exist yet never been mentioned. After all, the creation story is rarely given to us without being a reciting of a legend.

Erebea
01-16-2012, 08:28 AM
The TRI in triforce is not likely referring to the fact that there are three of them. Why? Because even when split into three fragments each one is still called A triforce. Due to this it is most likely referring to it's shape.
Actually, although they are called "Triforce of Courage", "Triforce of Power", and "Triforce of Wisdom", they are also referred to as "A piece of the Triforce" if I recall correctly. Also, I doubt that, simply because the "tri" referring to the fact that there are three of them makes much more sense. To elaborate, Tri - force; three forces; the forces of the three goddesses, Din, Nayru, and Farore; Power, Courage, and Wisdom. It makes much more sense than three corners/angles, which refers to triangles. It is also a much better meaning considering the fact that Zelda is a fantasy series, which believe it or not also counts. Considering everything, it's more than likely that the "tri" in "Triforce" refers to there being three forces, that is the forces of the three goddesses.



I'm not a tetraforce kinda guy, but people very rarely present solid evidence that it is wrong. People use the three Goddesses argument yet forget that a fourth Goddess (who would most likely be a rebelling Goddess if you ask me) may well exist yet never been mentioned. After all, the creation story is rarely given to us without being a reciting of a legend.
Just because there is no strong evidence against it doesn't at all mean that it may be right. Also, the fact that this is not mentioned in Hyrule Historia could be used as evidence. The fact that it is not mention in Hyrule Historia means that at this present time the tetraforce theory is completely false.

TheBlueReptile
01-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Actually, although they are called "Triforce of Courage", "Triforce of Power", and "Triforce of Wisdom", they are also referred to as "A piece of the Triforce" if I recall correctly. Also, I doubt that, simply because the "tri" referring to the fact that there are three of them makes much more sense. To elaborate, Tri - force; three forces; the forces of the three goddesses, Din, Nayru, and Farore; Power, Courage, and Wisdom. It makes much more sense than three corners/angles, which refers to triangles. It is also a much better meaning considering the fact that Zelda is a fantasy series, which believe it or not also counts. Considering everything, it's more than likely that the "tri" in "Triforce" refers to there being three forces, that is the forces of the three goddesses.


Just because there is no strong evidence against it doesn't at all mean that it may be right. Also, the fact that this is not mentioned in Hyrule Historia could be used as evidence. The fact that it is not mention in Hyrule Historia means that at this present time the tetraforce theory is completely false.

Like people have said, there were only two pieces in the orginal game. The tri is not in reference to their number
I haven't gotten into this Hyrule Historia nonsense yet, so I can't really get into a discussion based upon it. All I know is that Nintendo may well have withheld certain information or future developments. Just because it isn't in there doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But I'm with you with your evidence point. Just because it isn't disprove doesn't make it right and I wish the tetraforce shippers would realise that sometimes. Really, all they have is the Hylian shield design as 'evidence'.
I guess only time will tell whether it really is false or not...

Erebea
01-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Like people have said, there were only two pieces in the orginal game.
Why bring this up if it was retconned? There were two in the original game, but since a few years after that there have been three. I don't think the fact that there were two in the original game means anything since it has long been changed. Nintendo probably wanted to make a little more sense, or maybe they intended that there be three all along but waited? Either way, there's three now, the fact that there were two in the original game is almost meaningless.

TheBlueReptile
01-17-2012, 06:54 AM
Why bring this up if it was retconned? There were two in the original game, but since a few years after that there have been three. I don't think the fact that there were two in the original game means anything since it has long been changed. Nintendo probably wanted to make a little more sense, or maybe they intended that there be three all along but waited? Either way, there's three now, the fact that there were two in the original game is almost meaningless.

Because it was still called the triforce back then...