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Bluelink6
12-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Apparently There is going to be a new star trek movie coming out soon, and a lot of comments I have seen about it are that it is going to be the death bells for the star trek franchise. This has been said by people becuase Apparently Star trek had been going down hill since gene roddenberry died. What do you all think? I don't like the sound of a new star trek movie.
For people who don't know what star trek is or haven't seen it, here's an episode Of star trek voyager, just after They had basically un rbotified a robot...well, a borg.
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=star+trek+voyager+%3A+the+gift&emb=0&aq=f#
But what do you people tihnk of the sounds of a new star trek movie?
Edit : The videos a trailer.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm a huge Star Trek fan, and this movie looks like it's going to breathe life into the franchise.
Star Trek hasn't been going down hill since Robbenberry died. It was actually a huge success until the 9th Star Trek movie was released. Star Trek 9 flopped horribly, and just about destroyed the franchise.
After 5 TV series and 10 movies, I think this new rebooted movie will bring back life to Star Trek.
kpllk
12-21-2008, 12:48 PM
I hate Startreck. This movie is not going to have a high gross. It is going to be worse than all the others. It got old a long time ago.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2008, 12:55 PM
I hate Startreck. This movie is not going to have a high gross. It is going to be worse than all the others. It got old a long time ago.
Have you seen the trailers?
Looks pretty good to me. Ever since the 5th series (Enterpise) ended around 2005, Star Trek has been declining(sp?) in popularity.The new movie looks like it will attract many people.
If it does end up flopping, oh well. At least they won't keep making horrible prequels like Star Wars.
Bluelink6
12-21-2008, 01:12 PM
I haven't sen many star trek's. Just deep space 9, voyager, and next generation. But the tihng About it going downhill Isn't my opinion, just the opinion of some people. I think the star trek movie will be quite good. Btw, did you know the voice of the ship's computer in the movie is the voice of...what did it say ? I tihnk it said Gene roddenberry's wife.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2008, 01:16 PM
Btw, did you know the voice of the ship's computer in the movie is the voice of...what did it say ? I tihnk it said Gene roddenberry's wife.
Yes, Majel Roddenberry. She voiced almost all of the computer throughout all 5 series. She passed away about 3 days ago...:(
serotonin_wraith
12-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Aww, I didn't know she'd died. I only recently found out Don S Davis (General Hammnd from Stargate SG-1) died too. Shows how much I keep up with these things.
I'm a big fan of Star Trek, but the best time period for me was '89-'99. I won't decide what I think of the new Star Trek movie til I see it properly. My first instinct was to go 'ugh, why recast Kirk and Spock and others? Just start with a new bunch if you want something fresh' but reboots can be done really well and end up better than the original - Battlestar Galactica was one, for example.
So, who knows at the moment?
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2008, 05:30 PM
My first instinct was to go 'ugh, why recast Kirk and Spock and others?
I did the same thing as well.
Kirk and Spock are the two most popular Star Trek characters, so they are the best chance the movie has to succeed.
serotonin_wraith
12-21-2008, 05:40 PM
But was it the actors or the characters?
There's a fan made Trek on the web which recast Kirk and Spock - http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/
Not bad. The original Sulu and Chekov have even been in it. But it doesn't compare to the original. So I'm not so sure using the names Kirk and Spock will help. It'll depend on the actors.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-21-2008, 10:11 PM
But was it the actors or the characters?
There's a fan made Trek on the web which recast Kirk and Spock - http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/
Not bad. The original Sulu and Chekov have even been in it. But it doesn't compare to the original. So I'm not so sure using the names Kirk and Spock will help. It'll depend on the actors.
I meant that more people recognize Kirk and Spock than Picard,Sisko, or Archer.
I think it will be better if they use characters that everyone's familiar with.
As for the actors, isn't Zachary Quinto well known?
chrisbg99
12-22-2008, 03:12 AM
Important Facts:
1. The cast of the original Star Trek are all past their 70s and/or dead.
2. This movie is about them in their early years.
Therefore: You need new actors to perform such roles. Unless you can figure out a way to reverse the aging process and revive the dead. And I'm rather skeptical that you can but curious that you might.
Bluelink6
12-22-2008, 09:54 AM
Pity Majel roddenberry died...But these things happen. I iddn't hear if she had finished being the voice of the computer in the movie or not. I wonder....what are they doing this movie about? The crew from enterprise or sometihng? (Im not very weell informed )
Made_Of_Win
12-22-2008, 11:09 AM
No young William Shatner = DO NOT WANT.
I'm one of those people who isn't too fond of classics being remade.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-22-2008, 11:10 AM
Pity Majel roddenberry died...But these things happen. I iddn't hear if she had finished being the voice of the computer in the movie or not. I wonder....what are they doing this movie about? The crew from enterprise or sometihng? (Im not very weell informed )
It's about Kirk's, Spock's, McCoy's, and everyone elses academy days.
The villian is a time traveling Romulan:o
Mike Pothier
12-22-2008, 06:39 PM
After seeing the trailer, I'm actually excited. Which is saying a lot, because its been a long time since I've been excited about a Star Trek movie. This looks like it might be what the franchise needs to pull itself up by the bootstraps.
No young William Shatner = DO NOT WANT.
I'm one of those people who isn't too fond of classics being remade.
Its not a remake, its a prequel more along the lines of a reimagining. As such, I support them.
chrisbg99
12-22-2008, 08:47 PM
My dad's only major gripe is that they were assembling the Enterprise on Earth. Apparently it was built in space and was never meant for landing on planets. I'm sure my uncle is having conniptions about all the stuff they ended up changing.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-23-2008, 12:08 AM
My dad's only major gripe is that they were assembling the Enterprise on Earth.
I can't see why everyone is worked up about that.
Just forget canon and enjoy the movie
P.S. PICARD'S EYEBROWS ARE NOT CANON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bluelink6
12-24-2008, 01:12 PM
Picards eyebrows...? Whassat supposed to mean?
Stella3000
12-24-2008, 02:15 PM
DID SOMEBODY SAY STAR TREK?? I LOVE star trek!! *is excited already*. Voyager was my fav.
This movie sounds interesting, I hope it turns out well.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-25-2008, 03:41 PM
Picards eyebrows...? Whassat supposed to mean?
It's a joke used to make fun of those who are obsessed with canon:D
Bluelink6
12-30-2008, 02:18 PM
DID SOMEBODY SAY STAR TREK?? I LOVE star trek!! *is excited already*. Voyager was my fav.
This movie sounds interesting, I hope it turns out well.
Mine too. The only thing is, I can watch it every night on tv but my parents don't let me . :(
I wish they had made the movie about a different lot. Maybe picards group, but I absoloutely hate Captain archer.
There was an advert on tv about enterprise, the one under his command. It said, with the theme tune playing , " The hottest aliens.".It showed some clips, " The toughest mission" more clips, and then it said " shame about the theme tune " And the music stopped. Rather approprietly in my opinion, it showed a clip of archer saying ; " Can't argue with you there. "
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Mine too. The only thing is, I can watch it every night on tv but my parents don't let me . :(
I wish they had made the movie about a different lot. Maybe picards group, but I absoloutely hate Captain archer.
There was an advert on tv about enterprise, the one under his command. It said, with the theme tune playing , " The hottest aliens.".It showed some clips, " The toughest mission" more clips, and then it said " shame about the theme tune " And the music stopped. Rather approprietly in my opinion, it showed a clip of archer saying ; " Can't argue with you there. "
Aww... I liked Archer and Enterprise.
Patrick Stewart (Picard) and Brent Spiner (Data) have announced they have no intention of coming back to their roles.:cry:
I would love another TNG movie....:cry::cry:
kpllk
12-31-2008, 09:36 AM
Have you seen the trailers?
Looks pretty good to me. Ever since the 5th series (Enterpise) ended around 2005, Star Trek has been declining(sp?) in popularity.The new movie looks like it will attract many people.
If it does end up flopping, oh well. At least they won't keep making horrible prequels like Star Wars.
No. I haven't seen the preview. I still don't think it will be good.
Bluelink6
12-31-2008, 10:52 AM
Me neither. I don't like Archer. Data and Picard were okay though, but since they have little to do with enterprise....Well, I think this movie will flop.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-31-2008, 06:27 PM
Me neither. I don't like Archer. Data and Picard were okay though, but since they have little to do with enterprise....Well, I think this movie will flop.
It's not about Archer, it's about Kirk, and the TOS movies were waaay better than the TNG movies.
Bluelink6
01-01-2009, 08:52 AM
Ugh....I always say archer instead of kirk....X0
Ver-go-a-go-go
01-11-2009, 10:33 PM
No. I haven't seen the preview. I still don't think it will be good.
Well, you should at least watch a preview before you judge it.
@BlueLink
You like Archer better than Kirk? Wow, you're the first I've met who agrees with me!:D
DisappearingMist
01-25-2009, 12:31 AM
Voyager was my fav.
Voyager's the only one of the series I've seen, but I really enjoy it. Caleb and I have been watching them season by season (he's seen them all) and we're almost finished with the 2nd season.
Ver-go-a-go-go
01-25-2009, 10:25 AM
Voyager's the only one of the series I've seen, but I really enjoy it. Caleb and I have been watching them season by season (he's seen them all) and we're almost finished with the 2nd season.
Voyager is great. I love all the Borg episodes:cool:
LinkOwnsYou
01-26-2009, 06:34 PM
Spock all the way! thats my fav character
Stella3000
01-26-2009, 07:11 PM
ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, LIZARD, SPOCK! lol
Wait...this movie has something to do with Archer and Enterprise?! 0.o
We're doomed.
Ver-go-a-go-go
01-27-2009, 08:56 AM
ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, LIZARD, SPOCK! lol
Wait...this movie has something to do with Archer and Enterprise?! 0.o
We're doomed.
I've heard Archr will be mentioned in the movie, but he won't be a character.
Heh, Scotty gets in trouble because of a transporter accident concerning "Admiral Archer's dog".:lol:
El Bagu
02-22-2009, 05:45 PM
Almost all I can say is this: Are there 100 Star Trek movies? Or was it just a long series and only a few movies? There´s been a lot of Star Trek on the television over the years. Maybe it is time for me to start appreciate it?
Ver-go-a-go-go
02-23-2009, 11:18 AM
Almost all I can say is this: Are there 100 Star Trek movies? Or was it just a long series and only a few movies? There´s been a lot of Star Trek on the television over the years. Maybe it is time for me to start appreciate it?
There are five different series:
Star Trek: The Original Series - 3 seasons = The old 60s show with Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, which are the most popular characters in the entire Star Trek universe.
Star Trek: The Next Generation - 7 seasons = A late 80s early 90s show that takes place almost 100 years after the Original Series.
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - 7 seasons = A 90s show. Takes place during the same time as The Next Generation, but takes place aboard a space station. It has much more action and combat than the previous two series, so many more people like it.
Star Trek: Voyager - 7 seasons = A late 90s early 00s show. Occurs right after The Next Generation ends.
Star Trek: Enterprise - 4 seasons = A 00s show, and a prequel to the Original Series, it takes place about 100 years before it. Very action based, almost as much as Deep Space Nine.
There have been ten movies so far.
The Original Series movies:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: The Voyage Home
Star Trek: The Fianl Frontier
Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country
The Next Generation movies:
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Trek: Insurrection
Star Trek: Nemesis
The new movie will be based on the Original Series and its characters, Kirk, Spock, ect.
Gravity
02-28-2009, 01:18 AM
Btw, did you know the voice of the ship's computer in the movie is the voice of...what did it say ? I tihnk it said Gene roddenberry's wife.
Yes. She was also Number One from the original TOS pilot episode, Nurse Chapel from TOS, and Lwaxana Troi in TNG & DS9.
My dad's only major gripe is that they were assembling the Enterprise on Earth. Apparently it was built in space and was never meant for landing on planets. I'm sure my uncle is having conniptions about all the stuff they ended up changing.
ME TOO. It was built while in orbit, not on the planet. And where's Christopher Pike? And Robert April? Spock served on the Enterprise long before Kirk ever did. Don't get me started with all this.
DID SOMEBODY SAY STAR TREK?? I LOVE star trek!! *is excited already*. Voyager was my fav.
Voyager was the most dull of the series', by far.
Ugh....I always say archer instead of kirk....X0
Blasphemy.
Ver-go-a-go-go
02-28-2009, 10:59 AM
ME TOO. It was built while in orbit, not on the planet. And where's Christopher Pike? And Robert April? Spock served on the Enterprise long before Kirk ever did. Don't get me started with all this.
Have you seen the new trailer? Pike is the one saying, "You've always had a hard time finding your place in this world."
Right after that it shows Sulu punching Kirk across the face in a bar. :D
Ver-go-a-go-go
03-10-2009, 09:41 AM
I'm going to bump this thread because for all of you fans out there, we have a new trailer!
It's more of a "plot" trailer, giving us some info about what's going to happen in this new movie. I thought the most important element of the trailer was the fact that Kirk's father had saved 200 people when he captained a star ship for only 12 minutes. Kirk is convinced by Pike to try and do something better than his father, which leads Kirk into joining Star Fleet.
Mike Pothier
03-10-2009, 01:16 PM
I saw the new trailer when going to see Watchmen. It looks fantastic. Even my wife, who hates Star Trek, wants to see it.
Ver-go-a-go-go
05-04-2009, 10:10 PM
Wow, just about four more days until its release, and it seems to be everywhere. I've seen ads on the front of cereal boxes, Disney Channel commercials aimed at little kids, action figures in Wal-Mart, collectors cups in Burger King, and even little kids meals toys at Burger King. Apparently, this movie is turning out to be something much bigger than I thought it would be. Like I said, the release date is just four days away, and I'm now expecting a lot from it. I hope I'm not disappointed like I was with other movies. *coughcoughPushcough*
Mike Pothier
05-05-2009, 03:13 PM
I'm excited as all get out, and plan on seeing it opening day.
Ver-go-a-go-go
05-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Just got back from seeing it, and boy am I impressed.
It wasn't perfect of course, but it nailed some key elements. Character development is probably its strongest point, and it had an excellent amount of "eye candy fight scenes" while keeping a good strong plot. I didn't like how little screen time Pike got, and how Spock gets together with someone, but besides that, I loved it.
It was obviously made with both Trek fans and the general audience in mind.
peanutjoepap
05-08-2009, 11:00 PM
Seriously that was great i also just got back from it and i liked it MUCH more than i thought i would. And what really impressed me was that most of the characters look about like how you would expect them to look as 20 year olds.
Mike Pothier
05-10-2009, 03:06 AM
One word: Fantastic. Beyond what I was expecting. This is exactly the pep-shot the Star Trek franchise needed to get back on its feet. I can't wait for the sequel. Leonard Nimoy, you are my god!
Ver-go-a-go-go
05-10-2009, 10:21 AM
I can't wait for the sequel.
Oh, there will be one, no doubt about it. I've looked up reviews and its box office performance, and both of them are amazing. This movie is still 96% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes based on about 204 positive reviews. Every other review I read either gave it 4 or 5 stars based on their scale. It's only gotten two negatives according to Wikipedia, some UK magazine, and that moron Roger Egbert (Or whatever his name is :P) who doesn't like any movies these days.
Keeping in mind that it's only been available to the public for three and a half days, this movie had already raked in 54 million in the box office.
Mike Pothier
05-11-2009, 12:01 AM
I'll bet my left foot the next villain will be none other then Khan. Since its a reboot, we get to see them meeting again and it will end with Khan stranded on Ceti Alpha V.
peanutjoepap
05-11-2009, 06:10 PM
i hope they think of that khan was the best villain in the franchise
supergoron97
05-17-2009, 11:01 PM
Star Trek was one of the best movies I've ever seen
blhand26
05-18-2009, 02:12 AM
ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, LIZARD, SPOCK! lol
LOL I love that commercial. Off the subject I know but ...
Anyways I haven't seen the movie or even a good trailer of it. (and wont until it comes out on DVD :cry::cry:)
But from what I've heard from my parents (who got to see it in theaters LUCKY!!!) and others it's awesome. Me and my mom are watching all the past Star Trek Movies so I could get familiar with this (was) new subject to me.
I love Spock!!
I'll bet my left foot the next villain will be none other then Khan. Since its a reboot, we get to see them meeting again and it will end with Khan stranded on Ceti Alpha V.
That would be SO Awesome if they did that. And smartish. (I know its not a real word)
By the way the cast of this new Star Trek movie as signed on to do 2 other Star Trek movies Isn't that cool!
Ver-go-a-go-go
05-18-2009, 02:47 AM
I know I just posted but I have new info.
The cast of this new Star Trek movie as signed on to do 2 other Star Trek movies, but they don't have a story yet so if you MIKE POTHIER could find a way to contact the people that are involved with the story of this new movie. (I know its difficult but I was only saying if you wanted to) You could then Present this Idea to them. This suggestion is for anyone else that would like to do this as well of course.
(Just a suggestion my Mom came up with and I thought it didn't sound to bad)
Mmhm, yeah, the cast has signed for two sequels, and the script is being written as we speak. From what I've read, they're considering using the alternate reality that they've created to bring back William Shatner's Kirk, and indeed, Khan. Personally, I would like to see another movie with the Borg. With today's special effects, it could much better than First contact.
And blhand, just edit your post next time okay?
Mike Pothier
05-18-2009, 01:18 PM
I know I just posted but I have new info.
The cast of this new Star Trek movie as signed on to do 2 other Star Trek movies, but they don't have a story yet so if you MIKE POTHIER could find a way to contact the people that are involved with the story of this new movie. (I know its difficult but I was only saying if you wanted to) You could then Present this Idea to them. This suggestion is for anyone else that would like to do this as well of course.
(Just a suggestion my Mom came up with and I thought it didn't sound to bad)
Heh, not likely to happen. Even if I could somehow contact them, the last thing they want to do is listen to a guy with no movie experience whatsoever.
I'm sure whatever they decide to make will be fine. I just think Khan would be a great choice.
ResidentZelda
05-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Spock rules! I want to watch this movie so badly! :D
basement24
05-19-2009, 03:44 PM
I was never a huge Trek fan, being a Wars fan myself. Although I never stereotypically hated it, I just never particularly enjoyed it. It had nothing to do with the supposed idea that if you like one franchise, you must hate the other. I am welcome to both co-existing as their own stories.
I was the new film yesterday though and I was mightily impressed. It managed to keep my interest throughout the entire film, and I walked out feeling quite excited about what I just saw.
One thing I was glad of is that they managed to make the series mainstream again. I think that the franchise was dangerously close to alienating (no pun intended) the general public. The last Trek movie I saw in theaters was with a crowd of people who were obviously die-hard fans, and yesterday there were multiple showings sold out to people who were not opening visible as fans. I was happy to see that kind of life injected back into the series.
My only real disappointment was knowing of one of the key player's involvement in the film before its release. I won't get into details staying mainly spoiler free, but they really should have kept it a secret. Seeing the reveal happen on the screen without any prior knowledge would have been mightily impressive. If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm referring to (at least I hope you would and that I'm not THAT vague!) :)
I will definitely buy it on DVD when it's released, and I plan on getting the soundtrack come the weekend. I am a big fan of orchestral movie scores, and was very moved by the new themes that were composed for this. My only hope is that they release an expanded score as the one that's out now appears to be a taste of what the entire movie held in terms of audio.
Arkatox
11-30-2009, 08:59 AM
Yes, I'm talking about the new awesome movie that just came out on DVD!
I think it's amazing what people can do with an old TV series when turning it into a new movie.
I never saw it in the theater, but it just recently came out on DVD, so I saw it two nights ago. I think it's kind of obvious that the timeline the "Old Spock" comes from is the timeline of the Original Series. That would explain why in the Original Series, Vulcan is still a planet and Spock's mother is still alive. It just makes sense.
Anyway, my older brother did some research, and found out that there are not one but two sequels being planned for the new Star Trek movie. There will probably be more to come.
So, have any of you guys seen the new Star Trek movie? If so, what are your thoughts on it?
DisappearingMist
11-30-2009, 03:08 PM
I think there is already a thread for this back a bit. I sort of dread sequels to this. It isn't following the Star Trek canon, so they can be more liberal with changes, but at the same time, not following the story line bores me. But, if they are anything like the first movie, they will probably be good.
Ver-go-a-go-go
11-30-2009, 11:23 PM
Yeah, there's a really old thread about this somewhere but meh, it died.
I'm a huge Star Trek fan, so I was like everyone and had serious doubts about this movie. Why are they going BACK instead of FORWARD? I really would've liked a movie after DS9 and Voyager, maybe that takes place in the 25th or 26th century long after all of the characters from the other 5 series are dead. You know, a freash start? Well, they did just fine with a prequel.
The movie is great. I'm not ready to put it over the likes of the Wrath of Khan or First Contact, but it's better than I expected. There's loads of little things they put in there to make a long time fan like me happy, and there's enough mindless action to please the general audience too. I look forward to the sequels, and hope they can do an even better job.
And Disapearing Mist, they do a good job of keeping to the canon, and yet making their own path to do what they want for future movies. It's really neat how they pull it off.
DisappearingMist
12-01-2009, 03:35 AM
Oops! I am an up and coming Trekkie, not a true one yet :)
I would love to see a movie after Voyager and DS9!
linkman8
12-01-2009, 08:04 AM
Oh yeah, I saw the movie in the theaters, and I admit that I was satisfied with it. I'll be the first to admit I didn't watch as much of the original Star Trek as I probably should have, but I know enough. But like Ver-Go-a-go-go said, First Contact was probably better, but only because that was a great film.
Arkatox
12-10-2009, 09:46 PM
The Original Series was the best Star Trek series other than the movie, I'd say.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-10-2009, 10:59 PM
The Original Series was the best Star Trek series other than the movie, I'd say.
Nah, my loyalties lie with The Next Generation. The Original Series was amazing, but it was a bit too cheesy to make me prefer it over TNG. Plus, TNG has Picard and Data, the two best characters evah.
citanuzuki
12-12-2009, 08:32 AM
Nah, my loyalties lie with The Next Generation. The Original Series was amazing, but it was a bit too cheesy to make me prefer it over TNG. Plus, TNG has Picard and Data, the two best characters evah.
i love Star Trek.i havent seen really anything of it but the original series and movies 1-6 and the new one where they are all young.all was fantastic.i loved wrath of khan and the voyage home the best.i still have yet to see alot of TNG.but i also love the original series because of 1960's style it had to it.the funny music in fighting scenes for example.makes me always laugh.my mom and dad werent huge fans of star trek but they were fans so i bassically grew up with it.But my dad loved TNG mostly.By the way,my favorite characters are McCoy,and Spock. :)
Arkatox
12-12-2009, 01:59 PM
McCoy and Spock. The two crew members who dislike each other the most, lol.
Locke
12-12-2009, 10:13 PM
Nah, my loyalties lie with The Next Generation. The Original Series was amazing, but it was a bit too cheesy to make me prefer it over TNG. Plus, TNG has Picard and Data, the two best characters evah.
The only question I
Ever thought was hard
Was "Do I like Kirk
Or do I like Picard?"
...and after careful consideration, Picard > Kirk. Shatner was ...wierd. always...talking like....this....and always...tearing his shirt.........................off.
Plus the stories were more about basic morals and stuff while TNG went much deeper.
McCoy and Spock. The two crew members who dislike each other the most, lol.
Lol what are you talking about? They're probably the best buds in all Star Trek!
The Voyage Home is still my favorite, but this new one was definately very well-done. I am looking forward SOO MUCH for the sequels.
Ver-go-a-go-go
12-13-2009, 01:00 PM
The only question I
Ever thought was hard
Was "Do I like Kirk
Or do I like Picard?"
...and after careful consideration, Picard > Kirk. Shatner was ...wierd. always...talking like....this....and always...tearing his shirt.........................off.
Plus the stories were more about basic morals and stuff while TNG went much deeper.
Oh yeah, much much deeper, and more emotional. TOS didn't connect a lot of dots really. It was like a normal TV show, where you wouldn't have to watch a specific episode to understand another. But TNG had several connecting storylines, where to fully appreciate an episode, you'd have to watch another one.
Lol what are you talking about? They're probably the best buds in all Star Trek!
The Voyage Home is still my favorite, but this new one was definately very well-done. I am looking forward SOO MUCH for the sequels.
They just argue because because they can. :P They're two complete opposites on every issue, but they're still the best of friends.
I'm glad someone else likes Voyage Home. If you just get over the whales, it really is one of the better movies. My favorite is still First Contact though, mainly because it truly is TNG in its prime. No other TNG movie captured that.
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