What happened to the Master Sword? [Archive] - Zelda Dungeon Forum Community

kpllk

12-21-2008, 10:31 AM

Nemesis

12-21-2008, 10:35 AM

well only those who have three sacred stones, pearls etc... can pull out the master sword :p

kpllk

12-21-2008, 11:00 AM

Oh. But it still never showed him GET it out.

Bluelink6

12-21-2008, 11:50 AM

If only one with the 3 stones can pull it deos that mean ganondorf has to go aroung with a sword sticking out his head?

Onilink89

12-21-2008, 12:15 PM

well maybe that master sword is gone.
the sages created the master sword so i assume they can just make a new one as well.

kpllk

12-21-2008, 12:41 PM

If only one with the 3 stones can pull it deos that mean ganondorf has to go aroung with a sword sticking out his head?

I don't think he can move because he is stone. Statues can't move.

Hylian Hobbit

12-21-2008, 02:14 PM

I think that the Master Sword is probably gone. Because it's under an entire ocean, and it's embedded into Ganondorf's head. Like Onilink said, the sages could probably just forge a new Master Sword when the time called for it.

Ninja Boi

12-21-2008, 08:03 PM

If you look at the timeline, in WW Hyrule was looked away right? so any game with hyrule not under water is has to be before WW. Leading me to believe that no matter how many games are made WW is technacly last in the story.

unless other games are made with the WW link such as minich cap or whatever its called.

linkman8

12-22-2008, 05:46 PM

Well if WW is towards the end of the timeline, and you don't get the Master Sword in PH, then I suppose the Master Sword will stay at the bottom of the ocean, until the floods recede or a future Hero of (insert title) goes and gets it.

Mike Pothier

12-23-2008, 06:44 PM

The Master Sword has a habit of magically popping up whenever and where ever its needed. So we don't need to worry about how the next Link will get it. Where ever it has to be, it will find its way there.

imthemailman

12-23-2008, 09:52 PM

well the master sword will probably be the seal on ganandorf for a while until the water recedes and a new hero comes cos ganons powers are leaking out over hyrule or something but i just had an idea hehe ganondorfs head will be the pedestal of time hehe

ZeroJinKui

12-29-2008, 05:05 AM

I don't think he can move because he is stone. Statues can't move.

what about the eyegore and armos statues? they move... :xd:

Bluelink6

12-29-2008, 06:50 AM

well maybe that master sword is gone.
the sages created the master sword so i assume they can just make a new one as well.

But would they? The master sword is not JUST a blade. you don't just replace it like that. Only if they absoloutley had to should they replace it.

Also, what if Link gets the sword, but awakens gsnondorf - " you got-the master swooord! duh duh duh duuuuh" *ganondorf pops up* Not the best way to get a master sword is it?

Petman1325

01-13-2009, 06:00 AM

Hey, I just thought up of something. You get the Master Sword, you have to deal with its security system....

And Link left the Master Sword in Ganondorf's skull....

LucarioMaster

02-02-2009, 06:32 PM

Hey, I just thought up of something. You get the Master Sword, you have to deal with its security system....

And Link left the Master Sword in Ganondorf's skull....

true but if i was link i would take a sledge hammer to the statues head and get the sword that way easy:)

what about the eyegore and armos statues? they move... :xd:

eyegore and armos statues are magic statues

Skull_Kid

02-03-2009, 07:31 AM

In the Child timleline(if we assume that most of the games go in it) it was probably forgotten in the pedestal, since there wasn't any need for it after Ganon was defeated(considering the Oracles to be the last games in the CT), in the Adult Timeline, it is on the bottom of the Ocean in Ganie's skull

Smertios

02-03-2009, 09:27 AM

In the end of WW, Link attacked Ganondorf and turned him to stone. The Master Sword got stuck in stone Ganondorf. It never showed Link pull out the Master Sword, so what happened to it? Would this be at the end of the timeline. Because if it was then maybe there would be another enemy that de-stonified him and in the next game Ganondorf will have the Master Sword, just a guess. But really, what ever happened to the Master Sword? Does anyone here know the truth? Please tell me. I hope the answer isn't something stupid that I forgot about.

There are many theories, but I believe that nothing has been proven yet.

Some people prefer to think that it stayed there forever, and that TWW is the end of the timeline. Others say that it was retrieved from the Zora who gives you the sword in OoA/OoS.

In my opinion, it stayed there until someone with the three pendants (or pearls, or sacred stones etc - I believe that all of these are the same thing) could get it out. In my opinion that is what happened in LttP, but, again, I can't prove it, but neither can anyone yet...

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 05:32 AM

There are many theories, but I believe that nothing has been proven yet.

Some people prefer to think that it stayed there forever, and that TWW is the end of the timeline. Others say that it was retrieved from the Zora who gives you the sword in OoA/OoS.

In my opinion, it stayed there until someone with the three pendants (or pearls, or sacred stones etc - I believe that all of these are the same thing) could get it out. In my opinion that is what happened in LttP, but, again, I can't prove it, but neither can anyone yet...

As I said in the other thread, canonically, the Zora gives you the Noble Sword, only if you already had it, he gives you the master sword!But that's not canonical, canonically he gives you the noble one, period

MrMosley

02-04-2009, 05:46 AM

The Master Sword being in the Oracle games is something that I believe was more or less a "wow" factor sorta thing.

"Hey look! Its the Master Sword!" At least thats what I was like.

But it has no story or purpose in the Oracles. So they just put it in there for show basically is my assumption.

Back on topic, the Adult Timeline leads to WW, where the sword is stuck in Ganondorf's head. So far, thats where it seems to have stayed, since there have been no more games to take place after WW according to most people.

In the Child Timeline, the Master Sword is used a number of other times. After OoT, we see it left in the Temple of Time. Some hundred years later, we find that the Temple of Time has since crumbled to the ground, and a forest has begun to grow around it. However, the Master Sword still remains in its pedestal. So, once Link is done using it in TP, he puts it back. Then, some hundred or more years even later, we come to ALttP, where the Temple of Time has now completely vanished as the forest has now taken over the area. This area is either: A-Now apart of the original Lost Woods from OoT, or B-Renamed the Lost Woods since the old one has vanished.

Either way, after defeating Ganon, Link takes the sword back to its pedestal in the Lost Woods, where we see the message "And the Master Sword sleeps...Forever!" Now so far, judging by the fact that other than the Oracle titles where the Master Sword's inclusion was basically non-canon, that message at the end of ALttP has held true. The Master Sword has since not been featured in any other Zelda title (canonically) on the timeline after ALttP.

*So in the Adult Timeline, the Master Sword is stuck in Ganondorf's head.
*In the Child Timeline, its remains in its pedestal in the Lost Woods.

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 06:07 AM

Finally someone who agrees with me!Thanks Dark Link!
Anyways, I, for one, don't believe that most of the games are in the adult timeline, so, I have to agree with other theories, instead of Smertios'
And, if you check carefully, the Master Sword in OoX is a secret item, thus, not canonical

Midna666

02-04-2009, 06:28 AM

I think that the Master Sword is stuck in Ganon's head(in the Adult Time)forever unless someone can reach the bottom of the ocean,and is dumb enough to take the sword out of him.

Smertios

02-04-2009, 06:53 AM

As I said in the other thread, canonically, the Zora gives you the Noble Sword, only if you already had it, he gives you the master sword!But that's not canonical, canonically he gives you the noble one, period

I agree with you there, I was just posting the three most common explanations that exist for the AT...

Finally someone who agrees with me!Thanks Dark Link!
Anyways, I, for one, don't believe that most of the games are in the adult timeline, so, I have to agree with other theories, instead of Smertios'
And, if you check carefully, the Master Sword in OoX is a secret item, thus, not canonical

I kind of agree with you that the MS in not supposed to be canon. I mean, if the Noble Sword has the same name it has in LoZ (it is called White Sword in the japanese version of OoX), but is not the same weapon, why would the MS have to?

EDIT: Also, my timeline works the following way for the MS:
It is stuck in a stone head at the end of TWW. The next game that uses it is LttP, it is in a stone pedestal in LttP. See the connection?

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 06:54 AM

If we canonize the secrets, the Master Sword is supposed to be given out by Farore... You are not supposed to get it from the Old Zora unless you do a lot of sequence breaking

Smertios

02-04-2009, 06:57 AM

If we canonize the secrets, the Master Sword is supposed to be given out by Farore... You are not supposed to get it from the Old Zora unless you do a lot of sequence breaking

I know I know. If you didn't notice yet I'm kind of agreeing with you there...

I was just pointing out all the three explanations I've heard so far....

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 06:58 AM

I know I know. If you didn't notice yet I'm kind of agreeing with you there...

I was just pointing out all the three explanations I've heard so far....

Yet you included it into your ridicule timeline!

The Master Sword is in LoZ and AoL according to the official site, so I guess they just consider the most powerful sword of each game to be ther master sword

MrMosley

02-04-2009, 07:35 AM

Yet you included it into your ridicule timeline!

The Master Sword is in LoZ and AoL according to the official site, so I guess they just consider the most powerful sword of each game to be ther master sword

I checked it out, and couldn't find where they say anything about the sword being in those games. LoZ had the Magic Sword, and AoL just had a regular sword that you leveled up by Attack Power.

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 07:36 AM

I checked it out, and couldn't find where they say anything about the sword being in those games. LoZ had the Magic Sword, and AoL just had a regular sword that you leveled up by Attack Power.

At leats half a year ago, they stated there that the swords where in fact the master swrod... maybe they changed it back again

Smertios

02-04-2009, 09:25 AM

Yet you included it into your ridicule timeline!

Not really. Re-read my posts...

The Master Sword is in LoZ and AoL according to the official site, so I guess they just consider the most powerful sword of each game to be ther master sword

The official site is maintained by Nintendo of America, which takes no participation in the development of the Zelda series and is well know for its mistranslations...

I checked it out, and couldn't find where they say anything about the sword being in those games. LoZ had the Magic Sword, and AoL just had a regular sword that you leveled up by Attack Power.

Actually, the manual for AoL says that it is the magical sword too.
And yes, at some point either last year or in 2007 they took out all timeline-relevant information from zelda.com...

At leats half a year ago, they stated there that the swords where in fact the master swrod... maybe they changed it back again

Yes, they did change. Still, NoA information is not canon...

Skull_Kid

02-04-2009, 09:27 AM

I know it is not... I was just pointing that out... Thanks for nothing :C

Anyways... This topic will fgo on without a conclusive response, cause there isn't one -.-

Pinecove

02-07-2009, 10:53 PM

It all depends which timeline you follow. Personally I believe the oracle games show the retrival of the MS after TWW...but that's just me.

Caleb, Of Asui

02-07-2009, 11:48 PM

This always seemed so obvious to me. He doesn't take the sword out, so it just stays there for the rest of the Adult Link timeline. My timeline says that the games following it are just the Four Sword games, which all lack any appearance of the Master Sword.

Sk8r-Tonberry09

02-08-2009, 01:01 PM

In TP u never c link put up the mastersword after the finel battel with ganondorf
so.......... What happen to it???

Alder Dragon

02-08-2009, 01:23 PM

I'm not sure I really understand what you're saying or which game you're talking about, Caleb. If you could add some info that would be good.

Welbanks

02-08-2009, 02:11 PM

In TP u never c link put up the mastersword after the finel battel with ganondorf
so.......... What happen to it???

The master sword is in Links sheath during the Mindna scene near the end, and during the rest of the credits after that you can see the master sword put back in the forest where he found it. And that is why most people believe the next person to get it is the Link from aLttP.

LoZfan

02-08-2009, 02:39 PM

The master sword is in Links sheath during the Mindna scene near the end, and during the rest of the credits after that you can see the master sword put back in the forest where he found it. And that is why most people believe the next person to get it is the Link from aLttP.

it sounds logical enough.... I mean in the time line whio is to say that the Link of TP didn't have kids of which the son oof a son was also names Link.. that live with his uncle Alfon... WTF

bellum

02-08-2009, 03:31 PM

they kinda just got rid of the master sword after TP well they didn't have it in WW(I know was before TP) they didn't have it in PH well I"ll think about it and edit it in my post later

Bokbok567

02-14-2009, 01:38 PM

Well ganondorf got turned into stone maybe he crumbled and someone found it or maybe it teleported to where is would be needed next?!

MrMosley

02-15-2009, 12:32 AM

they kinda just got rid of the master sword after TP well they didn't have it in WW(I know was before TP) they didn't have it in PH well I"ll think about it and edit it in my post later

TP and WW take place in two different timelines after OoT, so they don't connect with each other at all.

TP the Master Sword gets put back in its pedestal, then years later is used by Link in ALttP. According to my timeline theory at least.

WW the Master Sword is stuck in Ganondorf's head. And so far there have been no other game in that timeline. However if you believe that the Four Sword series comes after WW, then at least they don't include the Master Sword. So on that side, its still at the bottom of the ocean.

Pinecove

02-15-2009, 02:30 PM

WW the Master Sword is stuck in Ganondorf's head. And so far there have been no other game in that timeline. However if you believe that the Four Sword series comes after WW, then at least they don't include the Master Sword. So on that side, its still at the bottom of the ocean.

The FS series has to come on the adult timeline because of TRR. FSA connects to ALttP so by extension if the FS series (or atleast FSA) comes on the adult timeline so does ALttP......

BladeMasterLink

02-15-2009, 04:56 PM

i think the master is gone thats why they created PH instead of the mastersword its called the phantom sword now thats what i think but i'm not sure yet. . . . .

Pinecove

02-15-2009, 06:26 PM

The phantom sword is lost after PH. Only the Phantom hourglass itself remains.

MrMosley

02-16-2009, 12:37 AM

The FS series has to come on the adult timeline because of TRR. FSA connects to ALttP so by extension if the FS series (or atleast FSA) comes on the adult timeline so does ALttP......

The FS series dosen't "have" to go anywhere precisely because it dosen't really fit anywhere, so it can go virtually at the end or beginning of either timeline. The only thing that connects it to the rest of the games is Ganon in FSA, and most people thing FSA is a prequel to ALttP being that Ganon looks the same and uses the Trident. Personally, I think that dosen't meant anything at all other than he is using his normal weapon. He used that in most every other game he's been in, and even used a variation of it in OoT when he transformed. So its not something that I believe is very important or any kind of key to figuring anything out about the timeline. Its just a trademark of Ganon.

Master Kokiri 9

08-25-2009, 06:11 PM