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LoZfan

12-16-2008, 02:21 PM

Gennerally Din, Fayror, And Naru fordged the earth as Link would know it. however, before ooT, Gannon got ahold of the triforce of curage and broke it.... then Link had to get the peices. after Link killed gannon the first time. Impa puts Zelda to sleep to keep gannon from using her blood to revive gannon, leaving Link. After all that mess, a couple thousand years pass and a man named Gannondorf(Hint) finds a way into the golden land where the triforce is thus turning it into the dark world. Link gets a telephathy from zelda to save her from agranim/Gannon. after getting the master sword and saving the sages daughters. Link beats the living hell outta gannon.... again.
Then he and his uncle go on a vaction, which link gets shipwreaked on some random island( i don't really don't know much about LA). then another couple hundread years pass leading up to OoT, then MM. but when the hero never came back. Din, Fayror, and Nayru flood the planet leading up to WW, then Ph.
AFter what seemed to be an eternity, the wolrd finally gets dry, leading up to TP.

there is my theory for the loZ timeline. ppl come and chew me out if you wish

Skull_Kid

12-18-2008, 11:08 AM

it's confusing, and messy, and it is wroooooooooooooong

LoZfan

12-18-2008, 11:09 AM

yeah i kinda forgot the orical LoZ's and fourswords. haven't played em therefore didn't get added

Skull_Kid

12-18-2008, 11:44 AM

You really should have known by now, that you should type correctly, at least in threads... make a graphic or so to explain it better... man, don't be so messy

LoZfan

12-31-2008, 12:46 PM

ya know.. this reply of urs SK really sucks.. I mean honestly..... WHAT THE HELL. it's only a theory

Moosh_is_cool

12-31-2008, 01:57 PM

Then he and his uncle go on a vaction, which link gets shipwreaked on some random island( i don't really don't know much about LA).

that's Koholint Island. http://zeldawiki.org/Koholint_Island

Zemen

12-31-2008, 02:08 PM

well im gonna go ahead and say this is wrong seeing as how miyamoto, the creator of Zelda, says that OoT is the first on the timeline and you have it way after many of the games.

i hate it when people come up with theories that completely go against what the creators tell us. we know that OoT is first on the timeline (with some exceptions such as where people place MC).

why make a timeline that has OoT everywhere BUT where the creator puts it?

LoZfan

01-07-2009, 02:13 PM

In case you didn't notice.... I mentioned Din, Nayru, and Faror before I mentoinded the storyline for the Original loZ....

Judai

01-07-2009, 04:15 PM

Oh jesus. You just put the games in order of when then came out. There's a few flaws with this. It's because of this:

Impa doesn't put Zelda to sleep.

It is said that long ago, when Hyrule was one country, a great ruler maintained the peace in Hyrule using the Triforce. However, the king too was a child of man and he died. Then, the prince of the kingdom should have become king and inherited everything, but he could inherit the Triforce only in part. The Prince searched everywhere for the missing parts, but could not find them. Then, a magician close to the king brought him some unexpected news. Before he died, the king had said something about the Triforce to only the younger sister of the prince, Princess Zelda. The prince immediately questioned the princess, but she wouldn't tell him anything. After the prince, the magician threatened to put the princess into an eternal sleep if she did not talk, but even still, she said nothing." "In his anger, the magician tried to cast a spell on the princess. The surprised prince tried to stop him, but the magician fought off the prince and went on chanting the spell. Then, when the spell was finally cast, Princess Zelda fell on that spot and entered a sleep from which she might never awake. At the same time, the magician also fell down and breathed his last." "In his grief, the prince placed the princess in this room. He hoped that someday she would come back to life. So that this tragedy would never be forgotten, he ordered every female child born into the royal household should be given the name Zelda."]

http://www.desertcolossus.com/guide.php?page=zelda2/backstory&menu=ii

Link and his uncle do not go on vacation. Link travels from Hyrule.

Ganon has once again been locked away in the Sacred Realm and Link has decided that amidst the well-earned peace he has deserved a vacation. Thus, Link heads beyond the Great Hyrulian Sea and seeks out all forms of adventure. But, a storm quells and Link's ship is dashed to pieces. He washes ashore unconscious only to be rescued by the island beauty, Marin. Marin brings Link home and waits for him to awake. Link wakes from his dream or Princess Zelda, retrieves his shield and heads to the shore, where his adventure begins.

OOT never mentions a hero before any event before these, so OOT comes first.

TWW happens after the events of Adult OOT. PH follows 3 months after TWW.

TP happens sometime after MM possibly.

Zemen

01-07-2009, 04:25 PM

Oh jesus. You just put the games in order of when then came out. There's a few flaws with this. It's because of this:

Impa doesn't put Zelda to sleep.

http://www.desertcolossus.com/guide.php?page=zelda2/backstory&menu=ii

Link and his uncle do not go on vacation. Link travels from Hyrule.

OOT never mentions a hero before any event before these, so OOT comes first.

TWW happens after the events of Adult OOT. PH follows 3 months after TWW.

TP happens sometime after MM possibly.

according to miyamoto, OoT is not first on the timeline. shortly after FS came out (the one with ALTTP), miaymoto said that the events of FS take place before OoT. MC is an obvious prequel to FS which would mean that MC comes first.

OoT does not mention a previous hero because the game was made right before the whole timeline thing broke out. they did not make OoT in any respects to a timeline. it wasnt until after the game was made that all of this timeline buisness came about, so you cant use that as an excuse as to why it would be first.

if youre going to use that as an excuse then this is my rebuttal.

the back story of MC doesnt talk about a previous zelda game that took place. in fact, the back story specifically talks about Gustav, not Link. if the back story doesnt relate to any of the other zelda games, then it would be first according to your logic.

elementskater995

01-07-2009, 10:39 PM

Zemen

01-07-2009, 10:42 PM

SP SP SP....SP

I don't really understand it

thats because it makes no sense lol

LoZfan

01-09-2009, 07:54 AM

OH DAMN.... i totally forgot about MC and 4swords:O

Skull_Kid

01-10-2009, 09:25 AM

Myamoto said that TP is after MM, nto Wind Waker and PH, LoZ, you really have to study things before doing a timeline, or you'll mess it up

LoZfan

01-12-2009, 10:48 AM

Myamoto said that TP is after MM, nto Wind Waker and PH, LoZ, you really have to study things before doing a timeline, or you'll mess it up

once again SK, its a theory... everyone gotta opinion about how the storyline goes

Skull_Kid

01-12-2009, 01:35 PM

Yeah, but you are going against facts proven by the series creators! It's just like saying that the metroid prime trilogy is after Super Metroid, for heaven's sake

LoZfan

01-12-2009, 02:12 PM

tell you what SK.. if you don't like the thread have it requested to be closed:dry:

Skull_Kid

01-12-2009, 02:14 PM

No, i'm not saying that, just trying to help you, so you can see your mistakes and do a better timeline, and more consistent, huh?:)

LoZfan

01-12-2009, 02:15 PM

i get that. but again it just a theory... perhaps me and you should work at this

Zemen

01-12-2009, 07:56 PM

i get that. but again it just a theory... perhaps me and you should work at this

SK's not telling you this to break down youre theory and make you feel dumb. hes telling you so that you can come up with a more solid theory. youre opinion doesnt really matter if what the creators say is completely different from what you say. no offence, but im pretty sure everyone will listen to the creators of zelda over a zelda fan..

LoZfan

01-14-2009, 02:22 PM

well. ok putting OoT in front..... the time line is generally the same... however..... there is contoversy about the first LOZ being Dead last

Skull_Kid

01-14-2009, 02:23 PM

AoL is the last in the adult timeline, imo, and PH is the last in the Child timeline, period

blackice_cc

01-14-2009, 02:31 PM

AoL is the last in the adult timeline, imo, and PH is the last in the Child timeline, period

I think more like that OoA/OoS come after AoL. Ganon is dead in the linked game, and the Twinrova are trying to resurrect him.

Skull_Kid

01-14-2009, 02:32 PM

Forgot about those, Icicles, i share that opinion as well:P

LoZfan

01-14-2009, 02:33 PM

I think more like that OoA/OoS come after AoL. Ganon is dead in the linked game, and the Twinrova are trying to resurrect him.

I really haven't got to play ooA and OoS
:(

Skull_Kid

01-14-2009, 02:34 PM

You can check several websites to learn the key plot things

LoZfan

01-14-2009, 02:45 PM

cool.. this may help us all out

Zemen

01-14-2009, 08:28 PM

AoL is the last in the adult timeline, imo, and PH is the last in the Child timeline, period

i think you have this backwards. PH is in the adult timeline after WW.

Skull_Kid

01-15-2009, 06:49 AM

Oops, it was my mistake, yeah, Zemen... PH-Last adult, AoL-Last child...anyways, i think he still got the point, going against the creators' indications is wrong

LoZfan

01-20-2009, 10:59 AM

ooT is first, then MM.... Then TP ( my reasoning is it shows that Link grew up and had some grandkids or whatever.. this generally shows Link growing up w/o the mastersword and timetraveling), then WW and PH.... after that im clueless

Skull_Kid

01-21-2009, 06:02 AM

The "future" Links don't necessarily have to be OoT's Link's descendants...And MC and FS are usually placed before OoT, then OoT DOES THE SPLIT. The Child Timeline goes to MM, Then TP, then FSA, then ALttP, then LA then(in my opinion) LoZ, AoL and the Oracles, and the adult timeline goes with WW, then PH

LoZfan

01-21-2009, 10:59 AM

Skull_Kid

01-21-2009, 12:26 PM

As yuo said above, FANFICS... this is to discuss a possible timeline, not a timeline manipulated to make fanfics work, imo

LoZfan

01-21-2009, 02:03 PM

As yuo said above, FANFICS... this is to discuss a possible timeline, not a timeline manipulated to make fanfics work, imo

sheezus all right! don't have a cow

Zemen

01-21-2009, 02:33 PM

fanfics are made by fans who are basically writing their OPINIONS. fanfics are not at all canon.

LoZfan

01-24-2009, 02:22 AM

OK! lets get on with this thread

LoZfan

03-03-2009, 01:49 PM

After much thought... gaming and research.. here is the timeline I figured up

OoT
MM
TP
ALttP
4SA
(many other Zelda games)
LoZ
WW
(and then some)

Zemen

03-03-2009, 03:11 PM

After much thought... gaming and research.. here is the timeline I figured up

OoT
MM
TP
ALttP
4SA
(many other Zelda games)
LoZ
WW
(and then some)

how come you dont have any split at all? the creators have CONFIRMED a split in the timeline. this means that after OoT there are two different timelines but every single post youve made has been linear.

Skull_Kid

03-04-2009, 07:42 AM

After much thought... gaming and research.. here is the timeline I figured up

OoT
MM
TP
ALttP
4SA
(many other Zelda games)
LoZ
WW
(and then some)

As Zemen said, not having a split is almost blasphemy, since the creators of the series have already stated that after OoT the timeline is splitted...
Try to do some research regarding background and other timelines, I suggest you use some other theories on this forum as a basis, or investigate on the Zelda Wiki

El Bagu

03-04-2009, 07:50 AM

After much thought... gaming and research.. here is the timeline I figured up

OoT
MM
TP
ALttP
4SA
(many other Zelda games)
LoZ
WW
(and then some)

I always thought that AoL was the sequel most close in time to LoZ and not WW. Did you neglect it or put it after WW or as one of the games before LoZ?

LoZfan

03-04-2009, 07:55 AM

I always thought that AoL was the sequel most close in time to LoZ and not WW. Did you neglect it or put it after WW or as one of the games before LoZ?

the games that Were befour and/ or after LoZ and WW are either games I havn't played or cannot get copys of for my DS.. (I really need a GBASP)

but i've been playing wind waker and Toon Link Looks Like the original 8-bit link to an extent... plus it seems that Aol would go dead last.. it's like the Last adventure up to date with Link as an adult.. savvy

Skull_Kid

03-04-2009, 07:57 AM

the games that Were befour and/ or after LoZ and WW are either games I havn't played or cannot get copys of for my DS.. (I really need a GBASP)

but i've been playing wind waker and Toon Link Looks Like the original 8-bit link to an extent... plus it seems that Aol would go dead last.. it's like the Last adventure up to date with Link as an adult.. savvy

The Graphical design of the character has nothing to do with timeline. Also, not playing the game is not an excuse, that's why there are sites like the Zelda Wiki...

You should be able to get AoL for the GBA and play it on the DS

El Bagu

03-04-2009, 07:58 AM

Well I do not believe that Link from WW is the same hero as Link from LoZ. Link in AoL on the other hand is the adult version of Link from LoZ. Just look at them (the different Links),the colour of their hair differs! (I must admit that the last comment can be considered irrelevant)

LoZfan

03-05-2009, 07:50 AM

I never siad he was.. I just noticed from the Original LoZ and Ww that they look alike.... plus.. possible.. the Link from LoZ.. is possibly the great grandfather of the WW Link... Savvy?

MrMosley

03-05-2009, 08:00 AM

Okay, heres the basic formula for a timeline that most people suggest is correct. Although I have other speculations and theories which are possible, this one is roughly what people would think is right.

-----------/WW--PH
MC--FS--OoT
-----------\MM--TP--ALttP--FSA--LA--OoX--LoZ--AoL

I really have doubts about the placement of FSA, just because to me it dosen't seem right to fit anything between TP and ALttP unless it was a game that showed how Ganon managed to get within the Sacred Realm again. But anyway, this is the general timeline, based on the info that we have been given.

My timeline as it was went like this

------/WW--PH--MC--FS--FSA
--OoT
------\MM--TP--ALttP--LA--OoX--LoZ--AoL

Which the only difference is that I'm placing the Four Swords saga in the New Hyrule which would have been discovered by Link and Tetra after WW.

But regardless of how the timeline might go, any timeline that you make has to at least follow the split-timeline theory to make sense anymore. Placing them in the same timeline is wrong, both because the creators said so, and the fact that if you have played both TP and WW, you know that they are both sequels of OoT, but follow each path of either the world Child or Adult Link left behind in that game. Its crystal clear.

Skull_Kid

03-05-2009, 08:30 AM

I never siad he was.. I just noticed from the Original LoZ and Ww that they look alike.... plus.. possible.. the Link from LoZ.. is possibly the great grandfather of the WW Link... Savvy?

Of course not! I believe LoZ and AoL to be in the Child Timeline, after ALttP and LA, and before OoX, but, even if they were in the Adult Timeline, they had to be after WW and PH, not before

LoZfan

03-05-2009, 12:50 PM

Zemen

03-05-2009, 01:22 PM

I havn't even gotten to PH yet.. that goes somwhere in my timeline theory dead last.. sry...
but still.. I'll pull up an official drawing of Loz Link and Toon link and then we can compare and contrast

http://ui01.gamespot.com/1984/thelegendofzeldatww3_2.jpg
http://www.wikicheats.com/images/6/69/LegendofZelda_header.jpg

now... The way I see things.. Original Link is the great grandfather to WW Link.. or something to that.. and OK.. we'll put PH bef.. hold up.. Toon Link didn't have the hero's cloths before WW.. unless the is the Grandfather to WW Link...

how in god's name does PH go last on your timeline? it has Link and Tetra in it. the very same Link and Tetra from WW that takes place right after OoT on the AT...

THE CREATORS TOLD US THAT OOT IS FIRST ON THE TIMELINE. of course that quote was stated before MC and more recent games came out but OoT was made AFTER LoZ and the creators said it was first on the timeline which means all games made before OoT CAN NEVER be considered to be placed before OoT on the timeline...youre going against the creators word and no matter how much you argue it, the creators have yet to contradict themselves on OoT's placement (with the exception of recent games in mind) so we have to assume they are correct.

LoZfan

03-05-2009, 01:24 PM

how in god's name does PH go last on your timeline? it has Link and Tetra in it. the very same Link and Tetra from WW that takes place right after OoT on the AT...

The way I see it.. the original Link and Zelda were Great grandparents of WW Link and Zelda(Tetra)... in theory.... The gods decided that hyrule has to be flooded to prevent evil from coming back(although it didn't work) OoT comes first then MM and TP, and ALttP...

Zemen

03-05-2009, 01:30 PM

The way I see it.. the original Link and Zelda were Great grandparents of WW Link and Zelda(Tetra)... in theory.... The gods decided that hyrule has to be flooded to prevent evil from coming back(although it didn't work) OoT comes first then MM and TP, and ALttP...

this makes no sense...

youre still using a linear timeline. there is a split. no matter what you argue, there is a split.

LoZfan

03-05-2009, 01:31 PM

this makes no sense...

youre still using a linear timeline. there is a split. no matter what you argue, there is a split.

Im not saying there isn't a slpit.. Im .. Awww Damnit just forgit it now my friggin head hurts:dry:

Skull_Kid

03-06-2009, 09:04 AM

THE CREATORS TOLD US THAT OOT IS FIRST ON THE TIMELINE. of course that quote was stated before MC and more recent games came out but OoT was made AFTER LoZ and the creators said it was first on the timeline which means all games made before OoT CAN NEVER be considered to be placed before OoT on the timeline...youre going against the creators word and no matter how much you argue it, the creators have yet to contradict themselves on OoT's placement (with the exception of recent games in mind) so we have to assume they are correct.

They also said, like after 3 or 4 years of the OoT's statement, that FS,and consequently MC were the first games on the timeline... Well, you are now banned and it suits you!

LoZ, if you need help about timelining, you can ask me stuff about the games you haven't played, but yeah, there has to be a split

LoZfan

03-06-2009, 09:43 AM

I agree that ooT is in fact the first game.. but i havn't played MC LA, o0A, OoS, or PH.. so Yeah I could really use some help

Skull_Kid

03-06-2009, 09:52 AM

I agree that ooT is in fact the first game.. but i havn't played MC LA, o0A, OoS, or PH.. so Yeah I could really use some help

Why are you being so slow?if you haven't played them, thenm check the plot details on the Zelda wiki!

It's better than placing them randomly

LoZfan

03-06-2009, 09:54 AM

Ok the LoZ games i have played in the order that Seems correct are as fallowed
OoT. MM. Tp, ALttP, ?, ?, ?, ?, LoZ, WW, PH, ?, ?, ?...

you have a point though.. I need to play the others some.. *I really need a GBASP.. so I can catch up*

Skull_Kid

03-09-2009, 10:41 AM

As I have been saying: USE THE ZELDA WIKI OR USE AN EMULATOR...

You are not getting anywhere just "throwing the games list against the wall and expecting to come out with a decent timeline)

LoZfan

03-10-2009, 09:55 AM

As I have been saying: USE THE ZELDA WIKI OR USE AN EMULATOR...

You are not getting anywhere just "throwing the games list against the wall and expecting to come out with a decent timeline)

To be honest.. I hate the ZW..... I made an edit for something and it got deleted or something.. so i said the hell with it

Skull_Kid

03-10-2009, 09:57 AM

Yeah, but it gets useful whenn researching about timelines, dude... I am just trying to help you, you know?

LoZfan

03-10-2009, 09:59 AM

Yeah, but it gets useful whenn researching about timelines, dude... I am just trying to help you, you know?

I know... ya know what.. i gunna have this thread locked... uhh how do I do that

Skull_Kid

03-10-2009, 10:00 AM

I know... ya know what.. i gunna have this thread locked... uhh how do I do that

You don't... Just, give it a little thought, take some time to figure things out nicely and smoothly

LoZfan

03-10-2009, 10:01 AM

:(
You don't... Just, give it a little thought, take some time to figure things out nicely and smoothly

I don't get the time of day ususally:( I barilly get to get on MY website.. let alone.. research for a LoZ timeline