L is real 2041?

[Master94]

In ocarina of time at dodongos cavern there is at floor 2 in the main room there is stone sign that says something (i dont remember it now) but if you look it closely you see some text in it.It suys that L is real 2041. the same message in same looking plate is in the super mario 64 (not sure about ds version) in the gardend with many boos is star statue wich says L is real 2041? What that means? Is this one of those zelda/ super mario mystery?

[Zeanith]

L is real 2041? Link is real? Woah...cool...I CALL HIM. He's mine. All you kids back off. lol

[Bluelink6]

In super mario 64 apparently, L is luigi, and 2041 is a date, and it was, the realease date for paper mario. it meant L is real, 2/04/01.

[MrMosley]

It looks more like it says 2441 instead of 2041 to me. Anyway, I don't see how this would imply Luigi, since he wasn't actually in the game. And I don't see how it would apply to Zelda at all. They seemingly used the same graphic in both games for a reason. Also, underneath where it says L is real 2441 (or 2041), it has something else, like a name or something. Phil something JR is what it looks like to me.

[Welbanks]

If you really look at the sign it dosent even say L is real 2041, or 2441, or anything for that matter.
its clearly just a bunch of obscure scribbles meant to mean nothing just like every other sign in zelda and mario.
some people just take theorys too far

[MrMosley]

If you really look at the sign it dosent even say L is real 2041, or 2441, or anything for that matter.
its clearly just a bunch of obscure scribbles meant to mean nothing just like every other sign in zelda and mario.
some people just take theorys too far

It must mean something. They wouldn't use the same exact sprite or graphic in both games only once, while all the other signs are different. It probably has some significance to Nintendo or someone at Nintendo and not anything secret or particular, but I wouldn' rule out that it was just some sign.

[Bluelink6]

it could have been random....but why? mayhap its trying to get something across no-one has thought of yet?

[Welbanks]

It must mean something. They wouldn't use the same exact sprite or graphic in both games only once, while all the other signs are different. It probably has some significance to Nintendo or someone at Nintendo and not anything secret or particular, but I wouldn' rule out that it was just some sign.


It could be because there lazy :P it wouldent be the first time they have used the same object in a different place just to not have to go thru the troubles of replicating a new one,
i.e The iron kuckles from MM being the exact same ones from OoT because they both have nabooru inside of them.

[MrMosley]

Posting some screenshots so everyone can get a look at it from both games.

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/SuperMario64Usnap0005.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/SuperMario64Usnap0004.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/LegendofZeldaThe-OcarinaofTimeEG-1.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o372/calebm_89/LegendofZeldaThe-OcarinaofTimeEGCVe.jpg

[Master94]

Yes, but what is the meaning to them to be in the both games?
I would understand it in the sm64 but its weird that theyre in the both games.

[Bluelink6]

L...i think if we understood what "L" is, this mystery would be a lot easier to solve.they could just be lazy, but why would they put it in at all if they couldnt be bothered?

[Kybyrian]

Some people take things too far. This really has no specific meaning, and as you know, you have to look really close to see even a bit of resemble to any letters. To me it looks like a bunch of blurs, which is all it is, and it's not meant to mean anything. The same style just happened to be used, and it's probably on a lot more 64-Bit places, too.

Just a coincidence that the same style is used, and nothing further. There is not meant to be a connection or meaning, and there is not meant to be anything read out of the sign, it's just supposed to look like it says something so that it's not blank.

[Josh]

All I see is a bunch of scribbling. =<

Eh. I did read it once, I think it's still actually on the DS version of Super Mario 64, I'd have to check again. I did see that and I did look it up on the interwebz, but got to the point of thinking nothing of it.

Hadn't noticed the one in Dodongo's Cavern though.

[Moosh_is_cool]

i saw this thread, and started trying to figure this out. from what me (and my mom, who helped) have found so far, the pixels on the signs are not English.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/steelcat97/th_mystery12.jpg this is from Mario

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/steelcat97/th_mystery22.jpg this is from OoT

this might be an original LoZ language made by nintendo. i'm still researching. I also noticed that the last symbol on the second picture looks a bit like a japanese or chinese character.

(P.S. I made these pictures using the screenshots dark_link01 posted, so thanks to him ^^. Also, these pictures may not be completely accurate, considering that I made these by tracing over the blurred pixelations on the signs, and then touching it up a bit so it wouldn't blur as badly. I also enlarged the original so stupid Photobucket wouldn't squish the picture. Therefore, the sizes and shapes may not be completely accurate, but it's as close as I could get ;).)

[Chris]

Now, what you have there is pretty cool. Though, I know as a fact that Humans, since we have such evolved brains, we can turn even blurs into words and pictures, even if they are just blurs.

If we see something that looks like something else (Which these totally do), we will find things that look alike in both pictures. In this case, you believe the insciption is "L is real 2041." Well, when you lok at the "s" you find that is perfectly straight, so it is obviously not an "s".

Now, they do look alike, but what I am is saying is focus on the diffrences and you will see that they look diffrent. I just know that "L is real 2041" is not what it says.

[zeldusfanaticus]

i actually posted a thread with all the hyrule writing symbols. the thread is called "Hylian Script Translations" it will take a long time to actually figure out if it can be translated though

[Bluelink6]

Something i remembered. On wikipedia I read the 3D engine for this game was an improved super mario 64 engine. I think the improved mario engine was symbloised by this statue.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Weird, I never noticed it.

I going to jump on the bandwagon and say it's probably just random scribble that doesn't mean anything.

[linkman8]

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/steelcat97/th_mystery12.jpg this is from Mario

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/steelcat97/th_mystery22.jpg this is from OoT

this might be an original LoZ language made by nintendo. i'm still researching. I also noticed that the last symbol on the second picture looks a bit like a japanese or chinese character.

That last symbol looks similar to the Japanese Katakana "O".
Observe:
http://www.tokyowithkids.com/fyi/katakana_chart.html
I study the Japanese language.

[Bluelink6]

interesting.....maybe we're finally on to something that explains it.

[Axle the Beast]

It's probably a weird little inside joke made by the programmers...

And it looks like the exact same texture in both games... maybe they were recycling? Or it could have just been part of the joke.

[Karashimu]

Maybe they wanted to establish some connection between the two games?

After all, Ocarina of Time utilizes a modified version of the Mario 64 game engine.

[Nje789]

I will now present to you all the mystical meaning behind the sign messages:

"Ya know what- I think we should put some illegible text on this sign so it looks better"

"..I agree, but I sure hope some gamers don't obsess over it's non-existent meaning"

"LOLWTF?"

[Master94]

Some people thinks that luigi is plyable character at sm64 and some people believe that luigi is playable character at Oot. Only because it has letter L :O.

[Bluelink6]

Thats true. L doesnt necassasrily mean Luigi or whatever in any game. For all "L" gets across, it might as well be lionel richy.

[LucarioMaster]

idk it looked like
1 si real ]-F09
p5 hemper jr
idk i'll look it up in u tube

[skynet136]

maybe it like a contest like the cris houlodon room in alttp?

[basement24]

It just looks like scribbles to me. I think it's one of those eye illustions, where if you believe you're seeing something, then you'll see it. It's definitely the same sign in Mario as it is in Zelda, but I highly doubt there's English words in those bits and bytes.

[Dungeon killer]

Well um... I don't see anything but a bunch of scribbles. Maybe the programers put it there as a joke or some kinda of riddle. Who know's maybe it was because they were lazy.:thinking::huh:

[Raven]

probably just a nintendo insider, although it does seem to imply something... when did luigi's mansion come out? L could mean link or luigi in my opinion.

also their placement inside the games is interesting though i cant make a connection between the garden where the boo's are and dodongo's cavern.

[NorthApple]

I agree entirely with basement24... I'd never really examined the signs before, and when I went and looked, I just saw a bunch of scribbles... only after reading what was supposed to be there did I start to see the sort-of resemblance.
Sorry guys... personally I think the "L is real" part spawned from some desperate fan who clung to the notion Luigi really was in SM64.
Although it is odd how they recycled it in OoT... oh, there we go- recycled. They were in need of a metal-plaque type sign, and there was already one in the engine, so they used that.
Case closed (imo).

Although it is fun to still speculate about such things xD

[Master Kokiri 9]

Dang I can't believe this! L is real 2041... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?! *grabs and shakes head like HMS* Well it might be possble that Nintendo thought that Link would actually be born in real life in 2041 and decided to let us decode it. And in SM64 it might be Luigi. However it might also have been a test for us to see if we could decode the writing.

[Steve]

is obviously not an "s".
Now, they do look alike, but what I am is saying is focus on the diffrences and you will see that they look diffrent.

I have ripped textures from both Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64. Both are the exact same texture, even in size, the only reason the SM64 one looks different is due to distortion, as it is being stretched over a rectangle, rather than a square. Clearly they say nothing in particular, so it very well could simply be to link the games, seeing as both were worked on by the same design team, perhaps it is simply a "plaque" in their honor.

[Keyshe]

It... kind of looks like "L is real 2041" At least it looks like a L , and I think one could be a 2... but evey thing else looks more like random squiggles... I don't know what some one could come up with L is real 2041...

But given the other easter eggs in OOT it might just have a meaning... I wish some one at Nintendo would speak up.

[Pancakes]

I think we are just exaggerating here. But Mr. Miyamoto loves to watch us fanboy/fangirl over the smallest of things.

In an office in Japan:
Assistant1: Mr. Miyamoto, the fans are trying to decipher our hidden message in Mario 64 and Zelda OoT.
Miyamoto:tell them it's nothing!

A1:O...Okay sir right away!
A2: What did it say sir?
Miymoto:THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!

[Pocket Asian]

In ocarina of time at dodongos cavern there is at floor 2 in the main room there is stone sign that says something (i dont remember it now) but if you look it closely you see some text in it.It suys that L is real 2041. the same message in same looking plate is in the super mario 64 (not sure about ds version) in the gardend with many boos is star statue wich says L is real 2041? What that means? Is this one of those zelda/ super mario mystery?

If I'm correct, it had something to with Luigi being seen in Paper Mario which came out on February 4, 2001. It was also a rumor that there were 2401 coins total in the game and that was a way to unlock Luigi. Another way it was deciphered was as a sign saying "Eternal Star" which is most likely true. The plaque was on a statue of a star in the garden in Super Mario 64.

[Octo Rocked]

Oh, you silly people. It just means that someone who worked on Ocarina of Time is a big fan of Death Note. And the numbers are...well, probably some sort of significance. That one's harder to justify.

[CZG]

Oh man....
I always though we played as Link, turns out to be Luigi?

Heh, I don't mean that.
If programmers want people to notice their weird little jokes, the should have a higher resolution texture!

I stared hours at them both, and all they did was making my head hurt.

[Aleks]

This mystery can only be solved by the great detective "L".

[lonely_moon]

When I first saw the infamous plaque in SM64, I thought it said "Eternal Star". It makes more sense in its context (being on a statue of a star and all). Now that I look at it, it does look like "L is real 2401". And, the way I see it, there are three possible explanations:

1. The writing is "Eternal Star", which fits in the situation in SM64, and it was included in OoT as a joke/easter egg.
2. The writing is "L is real 2401", which is talking about Paper Mario and its release date, and was included in OoT as another incentive.
3. The writing isn't anything, and was included in OoT as a joke/easter egg because they knew people were being stupid about it.
4. It was talking about L from Death Note. :lol:

I'd say the first one is the most likely.

[link9]

Some resembelences, but it really doesnt say that, i dont think. It says something though, but close-up N64 screen shots arent great lol

[badmuffins]

Since it's blurry on the n64, It looks like L is real 2401. Febuary 4, 2001 was the release of paper mario for the n64, and Luigi was in it. It could say that or Eternal Star. I think it's Eternal Star.

[TriforceHunter]

Well, I noticed the "L" is real, but not the numbers, and here's the back-story, in case noone has posted it and/or knows it.

In 1996 a gamer while playing SM64 found in the BackYard place a note that he made out to be 'L is real', he thought that stood up for "Luigi is Real" and speculated that Luigi was somewhere in SM64, he sold that storie to the Newspaper and fro a year gamers were trying to get Luigi in SM64, until in 1997 Miyamoto stated in a conference that Luigi was nowhere in SM64, so just for laughs and jiggles he put "L is Real" in OoT as an Easter Egg.

[athenian200]

I always thought it was too hard to make out, but here were my guesses:

1. To read this
Go under it.

I is feed him
by hold R.

A la mode here
for hungry jr.

I should note that I suck at reading cursive handwriting even in REAL life.

[Nociti]

May be the same sign, but you can't read anything from it. And if it was a secret message, it would be written in Japs.

[Mikau94]

I noticed both signs but never saw anything until someone pointed this out. It is possibly but exetremely unlikely that this is reference to Luigi's Mansion which came out in November of 2001. The release date could hae ben pushed back. I think it is a reference to Paper Mario if it is anything at all.

[i-am-link]

To me it looks like

I, if read, it- OI!
"My memphis ty"

[TwilightKat]

Question: Why are you guys so sure it's English?
Yeah, you may have bought the English version of the games, but it was originally Japanese, and in OoT's case, it could be Hylian.
[Heh, sorry for the encouragement. :P]

[Jedizora]

the bottem part looks like pit htyt jr. this can only mean there shall be another kid icaris game! if only

[Jedizora]

I was right! They are going to release a new kid Icarus game for the DSI

[Con-man]

Whether it's scribbling or not, it's still significant cuz they not just similar, they are exactly the same. Maybe it was an inside joke, or maybe they thought people could figure it out before Paper Mario was released. Who knows? Whatever it was, it is probably no longer relevant.

[Hylian Legend]

I was actually reading about this on Wikipedia's Super Mario 64 page a while ago. It said that the statue in Mario 64 caused such a frenzy that they decided to put the text into Ocarina for the hell of it, possibly as an homage.

[link9]

Miyamoto did this just to mess with everyone. Funny how this subject keeps getting brought up

[Hylian Legend]

Actually, if you enter "L is Real Two Thousand Forty One" in the code chamber in Banjo-Tooie, you will unlock the secret of Stop N' Swop and you will get transported to the top of Luigi's Mansion where the Great Mighty Poo will give you 100 lives and a Playboy magazine. If you enter the final word of page 48 of the magazine into the sandcastle in Banjo-Kazooie, Devil Bottles will appear and say the phrase "Hylian Legend." If you enter "Hylian Legend" as your name in the The Minish Cap, then when you defeat Vaati he will say the cryptic phrase "MP3 128." MP3 stands for Metroid Prime 3, and if you scan exactly 128 items with the scan visor in Metroid Prime 3 and then beat the game with 100% completion, the ship that follows Samus's ship in the secret ending will follow Samus to the planet Linaxonpitonironimigangia. The pilot of the ship will then emerge and reveal its true name: Metroid Dread. You will then battle him, and upon his defeat, he will tell you the release date of his game that is named after him and a code. Buy Metroid Dread when it comes out and enter the code the boss Metroid Dread gave you and you will activate a quest to collect 882 identical pieces of Aztec gold that were cursed by Cortez. Doing so will get you a code that is used in the real world as the password to get into Area 51. In Area 51, Kal-El will reveal to you that General Zod has teamed up with the Goa'uld to destroy Earth at the end of the Mayan calendar in the year 2012. So it's pretty much the greatest conspiracy of all time. Please tell me someone actually understood that joke. I know, I know, I have no life whatsoever. I really need to lay off the mega mushrooms, don't I?