Redeads...

[Redead]

How can the redeads find link thou theyre blind...

[kpllk]

I never knew they were blind. Do they even have eyes?

[Redead]

of course not... just tree holes.

[linkman8]

No, as far as I can tell they don't have eyes. Maybe they can smell him.

[kpllk]

So they aren't even blind. They don't have eyes. I assume they can see through the holes.

[Redead]

Nah. In majoras mask if you attack gibdo with fire arrows they will become redeads so theyre blind because i dont think they can see trough their white paper whats its called. maybe they hear link?

[kpllk]

No, as far as I can tell they don't have eyes. Maybe they can smell him.

I thought that was a good idea at first but don't they have a hole for a nose too? I don't think they can smell.

[Redead]

then they must hear link... or something.

[Kybyrian]

I assume they somehow sense Link. Like an extra sense or something. I wouldn't doubt it. We have to remember though, it is Zelda, after all.

[octorok74]

Maybe they can feel the vibrations when Link moves.

[Onilink89]

No, as far as I can tell they don't have eyes. Maybe they can smell him.

yeah thats also what i was thinking from the start.
something like they are hungry for blood. :D

[Redead]

you know when you kill one the other redeads starts to move. thats because they want to eat redead u kill. so they are hungry for anything.

[Claire]

If they have an inability to see, then I would assume they would use their other senses - such as scent (although they appear to lack a nose) or sound. Who knows, maybe the redead have a sense we are unaware of.

[Y2K3]

I never thought about it, but to me, sight would be the most likely. They may have eyes. Just because you can't see them in the sockets doesn't mean they don't exist. haha

[Twili123prince]

It must be their sixth sense :D thats what I'm guessing.

[waldo12]

mabe they have some odd sense like daredevil hes blind lol

[Welbanks]

Well maybe, get this, it COULD be the fact that its a video game, and they developers dident care, so they just gave them two dots for eyes and thats how they see you.
but that theory would just be crazy...

but if i had to pick another theory i would say they sense you, zombies are cool like that

[Petman1325]

No, this is the deal. When you approach a Redead slowly, they won't attack or shriek. They can hear your footsteps. Boots are kinda noisy. When you go slowly, they won't attack; on the other hand, quickly means attacking...

[Chris]

Redeads have advanced senses, thus making them able to see link

[Durion]

Maybe they are like snakes and can smell him with their tongue lol

[Zemen]

this is a retarded thread lol. im pretty sure when you fight a redead and lock on and get the description it doesnt say anything about them being blind, hence they probably arent blind. when you walk up to them they are crouched with their head between their legs so they wouldnt be able to see you, but when you run by them they hear you and then they get up and LOOK for you. you are all just being nit picky.

and if they really are blind, i would assume that because they are Zombies and because they eat Link when they attack him then they probably can smell him.

[Hero Of Termina]

Maybe they are controled by Ganon and he makes thier every move. Thats my only guess.

[Majora]

They either HEAR or SENSE link. It's true, in Ocarina of Time if you approach a redead without making noise they don't attack. I think it applies to Majora's Mask too.

[mewtwolord]

redeads scare me lol joke but redeads r also guibos

[Bluelink6]

what if....they don't have physical eyes....but they have the sense of sight? like seeing link in their minds, if they have any.

[Master94]

i Believe they can hear link.

[mewtwolord]

they might have physic powers to see

[Zemen]

im pretty sure they can see you, does anyone not notice that when they LOOK at you, Link stops in his tracks and is like in a trance where he cant move for a second. that only happens when he looks at you, and even if youre "sneaking" by them, if you walk infront of them they start following you no matter how slow you are walking.

[Bluelink6]

^ that's true. mayhap they see in their minds, ike using phsycic powers from beyond, and then using them to freeze you up.

[Zemen]

^ that's true. mayhap they see in their minds, ike using phsycic powers from beyond, and then using them to freeze you up.

you are WAY overthinking the abilities of an insignificant enemy. everyone is.

redeads are not important to any story in the game so why would the creators make them such a difficult enemy to figure out?

they can see, they can hear, they can smell. other than that, they jump on you and start eating you.

they are typical Zombies, so think of any zombie movie you have ever seen. unless the zombie didnt have eyes (which redeads clearly have eye holes), they could see.

i would also like to point out, the redeads in WW do have red glowing eyes when they look at you.

[Axle the Beast]

Redeads are not blind. That is not stated anywhere.

Not to mention, it's downright contradicted by the fact that Navi says they stare at you to paralyze you. You can't stare without eyes; they look right at you when they do it.

[Master94]

i think they do that to scream, and blind people look in the peoples direction even they can't see. plus link yels a lot so they hear him.

[Ando]

And even assuming ReDeads ARE blind: So are bats, and yet they find their way around, do they not?*


*The answer is "yes".

[imthemailman]

its just simple psychocnetic power of the redeads lol

[MajoraKing12]

I never though that they had eyes, But they just know where Link is because there special (if you know what I mean?).:o

[Axle the Beast]

But the fact still stands: Navi says they STARE at Link to freeze him. How can they stare at you if they're blind?

And if they had some other sense of perception (like good hearing, sonar, or a sixth sense,) why do they always watch you? I mean, I get turning to face your opponent, but why constantly LOOK at them, even when the rest of your body isn't facing them?

[Petman1325]

They find you by hearing you. If you tip-toe across the area, they won't find you. If you run, they will find you due to your feet making all the noise.
Typed on my Wii...

[Nemesis]

if the Wall Masters can see you, it's not impossible that the redeads can :P

[shadowscrub]

maybe, they think that link is cute, so thats why they stare at him. hey you never know if redeads have feelings

[Zemen]

ok i will say this again since everyone overlooked it and most of the people who overlooked it still want to believe redeads are blind.

in WW, they have eyes. they have red eyes. they glow when they look at link. they may even glow when they dont look at link, but the fact still remains that they DO have eyes. maybe they just didnt give them obvious eyes in OoT, but they have eyes in WW.

[Axle the Beast]

ok i will say this again since everyone overlooked it and most of the people who overlooked it still want to believe redeads are blind.

in WW, they have eyes. they have red eyes. they glow when they look at link. they may even glow when they dont look at link, but the fact still remains that they DO have eyes. maybe they just didnt give them obvious eyes in OoT, but they have eyes in WW.
Yeah. Besides, it never says anywhere that they are blind.

Just because in OoT their eyes seem to be just black, doesn't mean they can't see you.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Ooooooo I HATE Redeads!

Always screamin' at me and paralyzin' me.... It's very annoying:mad:

[EponaOwns]

I guess they are just magic?

[Kitsu]

I always figured that Redeads use other senses besides sight to locate Link. Like how bats use ultrasonic sound waves and bounce them off their prey to find them.
But I think they can see, only not very well. I think it's a possibility that they could have a sort of sixth-sense, also.

[porygonzx]

THEY ARENT BLIND FOR HEAVENS SAKE? In oot there eyes are black but they can always hunt me down smehow

[ZeroJinKui]

i would guess the same thing kybyrian said, they're magically animated... dead things...

im still trying to figure out what exactly they're doing to link when they are... "attacking" him. >.>

[Zemen]

they arent blind. you are all overthinking probably the most insignificant monster in the entire zelda series. congratulations.

[Josh]

Why thank you Zemen. Your words are kindly appreciated.

They look pretty much blind. I mean, people, animals can live without eyes, sometimes people call it being blind, I mean I think that Ganon with all his might could at least create some enemy that doesn't have eyes.

[Zemen]

Why thank you Zemen. Your words are kindly appreciated.

They look pretty much blind. I mean, people, animals can live without eyes, sometimes people call it being blind, I mean I think that Ganon with all his might could at least create some enemy that doesn't have eyes.

pretty elaborate back story for a character that has no significance. everyone keeps saying they dont have eyes but in Wind Waker they definitely do have eyes. they move just the same as the ones from OoT and they have eyes. nice, big, red eyes. chances are that nintendo and miyamoto didnt think crazy zelda fans would go psycho if they didnt spend the extra money to give a worthless monster an obvious pair of eyes. apparently they were wrong.

[Josh]

Zemen, what defines a character as significant? ReDeads could be as significant as any other enemy or character in the game. They could have spent as much time on the ReDeads as they did any other character. And obviously, if you could see nice big red eyes in Wind Waker, that means it's a completely different enemy, or they changed something. That right there still leaves the option open that they changed the enemy to have eyes.

[Linkmaster]

you are forgetting one obvious detail here. THE WHOLE FREAKIN' GAME IS IN A CARTOON STYLE! that is why they have eyes in ww. and there significance? to piss us of, duh.

[Kitsu]

Since their eyes, or lack-therefore-of, is becoming such a big deal...

http://gallery.zeldalegends.net/categories/The_Wind_Waker/Official_Art/Enemies/media/redead.jpg

Redead from the Wind Waker.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Scarablord/Bestiary/ReDead.jpg

If the official artwork is anything to go by, then I see eyes on the Wind Waker redeads, but an sort of mask with eye holes on the Ocarina of Time redeads.

[Linkmaster]

I repeat. THE FREAKIN' GAME IS IN JAPANESE ANIME STYLE! OF COURSE YOU SEE EYES, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE FREAKIN' BIG EYES! Sorry, I am CAPS happy today.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

If the official artwork is anything to go by, then I see eyes on the Wind Waker redeads, but an sort of mask with eye holes on the Ocarina of Time redeads.

Isn't a ReDead mask available for you to borrow from the mask shop?

[Kitsu]

Isn't a ReDead mask available for you to borrow from the mask shop?

Yes, it is available. Anyways, I would assume that since the redeads have masks with openings for seeing out of, I would assume that either they have eyes, or they did at one time.

[Linkmaster]

It is basically a zombie. It probably does have eyes. BUT WHY DO WE CARE? I don't know.

[Master94]

I stil believe theyre blind and they just hear link.

[kpllk]

Maybe they're just special enemies that go towards him wherever he is. Link attracks the enemies to him.

[Bluelink6]

Now why would redeads be atracted to link? Ii would call them homosexual for being attracted to him, but.....Well, what gender are redeads?

[kpllk]

Now why would redeads be atracted to link? Ii would call them homosexual for being attracted to him, but.....Well, what gender are redeads?

I didn't mean attracted by that way. I meant something about him just brings them closer. Maybe they can sense heroes or something.

[EponaOwns]

i would guess the same thing kybyrian said, they're magically animated... dead things...

im still trying to figure out what exactly they're doing to link when they are... "attacking" him. >.>

Me too... I'm more concerned about what they DO to him...

[Linkmaster]

Are we going to have to take this to the Mature Disscusion section, or can we get back to whether or not redeads freakin' have eyes or not?

[Claire]

Are we going to have to take this to the Mature Disscusion section, or can we get back to whether or not redeads freakin' have eyes or not?

I personally find it quite irrelevant to discuss whether they have eyes or not, since the discussion in general is about how they are capable of detecting Link. Even if they would have eyes, that does not mean we should assume that they are using visual reference to pick up Link's location. Do the redeads not react faster if Link is running? If this is the case, one would assume that sight is not the means of pinpointing his location, but rather by sound. I think a better question is how to they sense his area, not why they have eyes or not.

[Linkmaster]

I'm sorry, the original question was are they blind or something, and it turned into what do they do to him when they attack. And personally, I don't want to know.

[Claire]

I'm sorry, the original question was are they blind or something, and it turned into what do they do to him when they attack. And personally, I don't want to know.

Generally I find it intriguing, and I am curious as to how they sense Link (or rather what senses they use to detect him). In fact, we do not even know if they are using the senses we are aware of to track him. While I do find the question to be somewhat pointless, I do think it is nice to discuss the possibilities as to what we know and make good judgment as to how they can find him.

[Bluelink6]

I personally find it quite irrelevant to discuss whether they have eyes or not, since the discussion in general is about how they are capable of detecting Link. Even if they would have eyes, that does not mean we should assume that they are using visual reference to pick up Link's location. Do the redeads not react faster if Link is running? If this is the case, one would assume that sight is not the means of pinpointing his location, but rather by sound. I think a better question is how to they sense his area, not why they have eyes or not.


That's true. He makes more noise when running, and then they detect him, indicating they sense him with sound.

But I tihnk we're missing something here. What if they use a sense we wouldn't expect them to have? So far we mostly appear appear to be looking at senses humans ;sight sound etc , or mammals like bats with ultrasonic wave thingies. What If use a snese humans don't have? like say....Link is a good guy. Redeads are completely bad. Made of bad.
Maybe they can sense his good soul or something nearby.

I dunno...maybe they can feel the presence of his part of the triforce?

[fredthehylian]

of course not... just tree holes.

Well if you pay close attention to the placement of the holes, the 2 on top could be eye holes with the eyes deep inside his head. The third one is probably the mouth.

[Japua_<3s_Ralis]

If they have an inability to see, then I would assume they would use their other senses - such as scent (although they appear to lack a nose) or sound. Who knows, maybe the redead have a sense we are unaware of.

They could use their tongues or mouthes to taste the air and find out where he is like a snake.

[Kybyrian]

Well, somehow, I think they just sense Link. Like an extra sense or something. I don't think they are capable of hearing or seeing him. Or smelling him for that matter.

As for attacking him, I believe they just jump on him and gnaw on his neck or something.

[Steel Lover]

I go along with the theory that the smell him, they look like the sort of monsters that would hunt by smell..

on the OTHER hand there is the little detail about reaction to noise suggesting hearing is their primary way of locating prey..

so..its anybodys guess really

[Zemen]

they have eyes. when they are crouched down they cant see anything. so initially, they HEAR him walk by and then they get up, and then when they LOOK at link it stuns him for a moment.

[firemblem64]

this is like saying how do like-likes see you. ;)magic or somtin

[Amelie]

Well.. it says there gaze stuns you.. I guess you can gaze without eyes.. but I always thought they could see. If they cant.. then they must just sense him somehow

[random letters]

Maybe they have tiny earholes

[Skull_Kid]

Hasn't anyone thought the obvious????They sense you!duh

[Zemen]

Hasn't anyone thought the obvious????They sense you!duh

the obvious would be that they have eyes... in WW they have eyes. in OoT they have black holes where eyes would be which i think we can assume are eyes. just because they are all black doesnt mean they are blind. why would they have "normal" looking eyes. they are monsters. doesnt say anywhere in the series that they sense you and in fact it says that when they GAZE at you, you are temporarily stunned. you cant gaze without eyes. if you could then you wouldnt even know if youre looking at someone or not.

[Welbanks]

the obvious would be that they have eyes... in WW they have eyes. in OoT they have black holes where eyes would be which i think we can assume are eyes. just because they are all black doesnt mean they are blind. why would they have "normal" looking eyes. they are monsters. doesnt say anywhere in the series that they sense you and in fact it says that when they GAZE at you, you are temporarily stunned. you cant gaze without eyes. if you could then you wouldnt even know if youre looking at someone or not.

Exactly, they clearly have eyes, this shouldn't even be up for debate. Where does anyone get the idea that their blind from?

[bellum]

I can see they do have eyes we dont know if link is deaf so how'd we know if Redeads have all 5 senses

[Zemen]

I can see they do have eyes we dont know if link is deaf so how'd we know if Redeads have all 5 senses

the game never says it doesnt have all 5 senses. im assuming that if it was that important, it would have been mentioned. i would bet money that if the Zelda creators read this thread they would laugh at you all.

[bellum]

the game never says it doesnt have all 5 senses. im assuming that if it was that important, it would have been mentioned. i would bet money that if the Zelda creators read this thread they would laugh at you all.I could just amagine Nintendo laughing at their fans would they really do that? but it says nothing about the senses of the redeads zemen but I do beleive that redeads can see or just feel link with their senses but they do somehow find a way to get to link

[Zemen]

I could just amagine Nintendo laughing at their fans would they really do that? but it says nothing about the senses of the redeads zemen but I do beleive that redeads can see or just feel link with their senses but they do somehow find a way to get to link

its called walking. they have their heads between their legs. they hear someone coming. they lift their heads up. they look at link and it stuns them. they walk over to him and latch to him and attack. why are you putting so much thought in this?

[LucarioMaster]

they just guess if he is there i dont realy know why they guess or if they can see his shadow

[bellum]

i dont know why were thinking about this so much this is a pointless mystery
never mind about that I feel like editing this post here how about you check this out at the wiki or you can just click here (http://zeldawiki.org/redead)

[Chu]

Echo location you know like bats and dolphins.
Just throwing that out there :P

[bellum]

this is kinda a pointless thread, mainly beacause many people have answered the same answer over and over again and, who really cares about how ReDeads can sense link, certainly not me.To find out more about ReDeads click here (http://zeldawiki.org/redead).

[ChargewithSword]

Redeads seem to have heightened their senses beyond sight and use their surroundings to sense their prey. They can also sense when another Redead has died which is why they "mourn" them.

[MOS3]

Maybe they can "sense" him or something. We don't know how the body of an undead person works lol so it might not be through regular senses like we do.

[Zemen]

Maybe they can "sense" him or something. We don't know how the body of an undead person works lol so it might not be through regular senses like we do.

another dumb idea. i dont think any thought was put into it. they made a character that has eyes and a mouth. lets just assume that he can see since they gave it eye spots..

[DvSag]

Why is that dumb?
Do you know how the undead function?
Jeez, you've got the be the negativest Nancy ever.

I think the Redead function just like any other zombie. Maybe they smell Link, maybe they hear link, or maybe Ving Rhames can suggest a better theory. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xeP7Lt0AE)

[Zemen]

Why is that dumb?
Do you know how the undead function?
Jeez, you've got the be the negativest Nancy ever.

I think the Redead function just like any other zombie. Maybe they smell Link, maybe they hear link, or maybe Ving Rhames can suggest a better theory. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xeP7Lt0AE)

well im pretty sure that when you lock onto them and select Navi to talk she says that their gaze or stare leaves you paralyzed...kinda hard to gaze or stare without eyes

[DvSag]

I've always felt it was more of a paralyzing fear that it noticed you.

[bellum]

Well according to Navi and zeldawiki it's the ReDeads paralyzing scream . I fo you wanna learn more about this click here (http://zeldawiki.org/redead) .Ok now you know, Zelda Wiki prevails, and if you need some info about the loz series just go there we won't bite:P.

[MajoraKing12]

There magical. And I didn't really know that they were blind. But there face is pretty much just a tree carved thing. But there just creepy!-.-

[Majora Mistress]

They're blind? Neat.
Well, then I think they use sonar like bats- and that is why they screech. Link getting stunned by their sound is just a bonus.

[LoafDaConvict]

I always thought they wore Spooky masks,I mean,they look similar to the ones in the Mask Shop!

[arkvoodle]

they can smell you..
or see through those holey things in their faces

[midnightokami]

redeads are controlled by micheal jackson. Do I need to explain anything more? (Okay I was just joking) I think redead can hear your foot steps. But in wind waker they can see you...

[TVTMaster]

I always assumed it was just creepy undead magic. Still, I don't see how someone who is literally the embodiment of courage is paralyzed in fear by something that looks like a tree screaming at him. There's way scarier stuff to fear in Ocarina. I mean, that's like Link's whole thing with the ToC- there's only one power it ever bestows on him, and that's unnatural courage. So, um, why exactly would a screaming Redead paralyze him?

[the walrus cat]

I always assumed it was just creepy undead magic. Still, I don't see how someone who is literally the embodiment of courage is paralyzed in fear by something that looks like a tree screaming at him. There's way scarier stuff to fear in Ocarina. I mean, that's like Link's whole thing with the ToC- there's only one power it ever bestows on him, and that's unnatural courage. So, um, why exactly would a screaming Redead paralyze him?..I guess it would be creepy undead magic then?? What would have been cool is, if young link gets screamed at, he's paralyzed, but adult link might only be affected for a few seconds.

The official site says it's fear though... How they notice you might be through some sort of sixth (magical) sense, or they just hear you and start yelling.

[Raven]

the living dead can sense life itself, because it is what they feed off of. in some cases the undead have had their heads blown off and they would still come at you.

but enough of the zombie 101, redeads probably don't have eyes because they have long since decayed right out of their freaking skulls. my guess is when they are goin after link they can't exactly see him but they feel his presence, thats not the best explanation but it's a start.

in future zelda games i would like to see variations of redeads. I think it would be awesome to take out different looking hylain zombie/mummie people, for sure!

[DaltonR6]

Nah. In majoras mask if you attack gibdo with fire arrows they will become redeads so theyre blind because i dont think they can see trough their white paper whats its called. maybe they hear link?

I never knew that! I always make them dance hahahaha :) *goes to try it*

[MalonMaverick11]

I think that the redeads can sense Link's soul. Maybe that why they mount him and try to steal it. hehe, they mount him...

[Shadow Wolfo]

My guess they here him come by. Hmm...never thought of this.

[x-Link-x]

They're zombies, they're magic I'd say. I mean you guys are sitting there wondering how they can see and I'm sitting over there wondering how they're alive in the first place. ._.;;
Magic, right? So I suppose they're magic, too. I mean almost all creatures of the undead deal with black magic and such, so that's my guess. ._.;;

[Zemen]

They're zombies, they're magic I'd say. I mean you guys are sitting there wondering how they can see and I'm sitting over there wondering how they're alive in the first place. ._.;;
Magic, right? So I suppose they're magic, too. I mean almost all creatures of the undead deal with black magic and such, so that's my guess. ._.;;

Just to play Devil's Advocate, most creatures of the undead variety deal with some sort of virus that makes them that way. Almost every single Zombie movie is about how a virus is spread that causes people to become Zombies.

Anywho, whether they see or not is a moot question because it's never going to be answered. They obviously have eye spots so I'm guessing they can see normally.

[shadowlink626]

i always thought that they can hear him. i noticed they never had eyes. thats the only logical answer :)

[Zemen]

i always thought that they can hear him. i noticed they never had eyes. thats the only logical answer :)

But they DO have eyes. They clearly have black spots where the eyes go and in WW they have glowing red dots in those black spots. It's EXTREMELY clear that they have eyes. I don't the creators put those spots there with the intention of us saying "those can't be eyes"

[Master Kokiri 9]

I think they simply psychically sense link's life force because redeads and gibdos when latching onto link suck away his life force until he dies or he escapes.