OoT: Bloodiest E-rated game?

[Petman1325]

In versions 1.0 1.1 and 1.2, there was blood in there. For example, when Ganon and Ganondorf are slayed, they cough up red blood (except 1.2). When Link gets attacked, a red slosh comes out of him (could be a red flash or blood). Once Barnigade is defeated, he explodes in a bloody way. So, do you think OoT is the bloodiest E-rated game (1.0 1.1 1.2)?

[kpllk]

It probably isn't but it might be the bloodiest zelda game.

[Kybyrian]

I couldn't say that it is, considering I haven't played every game in the world.

The odd thing is, on my Cousin's N64 box of the cartridge it says T Teen, on my cartridge it says E Everyone. And on the Gamecube case it says E Everyone. I'm so confused.

[Petman1325]

I haven't played TP too much (stupid Goron Mines! Why do they need them!), so I can't say it isn't the bloodiest Zelda. I am gonna say OoT is the bloodiest Zelda, yet possible the bloodiest E-rated. Out of all the games I've seen, OoT has the most blood.

[linkman8]

It says on the TP box that it contains "Animated Blood", but I don't recall seeing any, or much at all. And besides, my version (GC) of OOT had green blood.

[Petman1325]

In the first two versions of Ocarina of Time, the blood was red. In the third, it was the color of your tunic.

[Josh]

I wouldn't say it is. It's probably really high up on the list, if we're talking about plain blood or stabbing people continuously, but it probably isn't.

[Mehplep]

One thing that I'm more concerned about when it comes to the ESRB-rating of OoT is the whole "shadow"-part of the game, i.e. The Well, Shadow Temple, and, well of course, re-deads. I first played OoT when I was ten I think, and the re-deads in the Market just scared the crap out of me, and not to mention the Shadow Temple. Also, the Shadow Temple have some random puddles of blood here and there, if you want to dwell deeper in the blood-factor of the game.

But seriously, imagine a seven year old kid picking up this game and enter the Market as adult. Who gave that an E-rating?!

[Smitie]

I can't find a rating on the pal-version of N64 oot. the gc version says 3+.

[Petman1325]

OK, this is weird. On the N64 and GCN, the PEGI (Pan European Game Information) gave OoT a rating of 7+. On the Wii, they gave 12+. Did they notice the fact blood was everywhere? I'm not so sure that OoT would get the ESRB rating for, if they did have it, but they don't, Frightening Images. Mehplep makes some good points there. With all the blood and, if you can even call it this, gore.

[Kitsu]

Yes, I suppose gore would be appropiate, considering the fight with Ganon. But I have always wondered why it always says "violence" only. There were many scenes thay showed blood in someway.
Like mentioned before, the fight with Barinade, it exploded in a splatter of green blood sort of stuff.
Whenever Link is hit, a small, or large [depending on what hit him] splash of blood comes from him.
Ganon coughs up blood. And in the shadow temple, there is even places where there are blood stains. There aren't real noticable, but still.

[chrisbg99]

It could be since you rarely see blood in anything lower than Teen.

[xandar]

I think it's just the change in times. In ninety-eight when OoT came out, the rating system was still relatively new, and I don't even remember if the original was E or if it was KA. I think it was E, but still. I think if the game was re-released it might even get a T rating. Especially if they did the original where Ganondorf spat up blood instead of puking or whatever. Plus, there's just so much T-Rated content as was stated before; scare the poop out of you sudden happenings in the shadow temple or just problems with wallmasters or zombies.
Anyways, i think it's just that the ESRB was just more lenient back then.

[linkman8]

That could be entirely possible, because they have gotten more stringent recently. But it would also be fair to mention that they also didn't have the E10+ rating back then, which probably would've been appropriate for OOT, because it's not exactly E, but it's not quite T.

[Petman1325]

Yeah, I agree with linkman8. It isn't E, almost T, yet more of E 10+. You also forgot about the questionable Zora's. I'm impressed Twilight Princess doesn't have suggestive themes on the descriptors with the great fairies, Minda, and the Zoras.
Xander, E-A was first. I have the Super Mario 64 cartridge with it on the box.

[waldo12]

there wasnt any blood though somtimes a litte greesn stuff but no blood

[Petman1325]

there wasnt any blood though somtimes a litte greesn stuff but no blood

Which game were you playing? Game Cube/Wii, or version 1.3? Blood was a major part of the game!

[xandar]

Xander, E-A was first. I have the Super Mario 64 cartridge with it on the box.

I meant the original Ocarina of Time. Was the N64 game actually E or was it KA? I don't remember. Anyways, the point is that a re-release might come with a different rating. Like Linkman said, E10 perhaps. I could see that.

[Petman1325]

If the original stuff was used, maybe a E-10. If they used TP graphics quality (not style, but as in more polygons and better textures), then it could be T. The N64 game was released as E. K-A was terminated in the first quarter of 1998, where OoT was released 4th quarter 1998. It is possible reservation posters were saying K-A, but I highly doubt the gold cartridge came out as K-A.

[waldo12]

Which game were you playing? Game Cube/Wii, or version 1.3? Blood was a major part of the game!

i own the oringinal n64 and the gamecube master quest so tell me where is the blood

[Y2K3]

I never saw anythign that I had called blood.
With Ganondorf (like someone had said, I think), I always just thought he was puking.

Until a couple of years ago, I never would have guessed there was any amount of blood in the game.

[Petman1325]

Shadow Temple had blood stains. Barniade explodes in a bloody mess. When Link is hit, a red slosh of blood comes from him.

[Y2K3]

I'm not going to lie. I've never noticed any of those things. Perhaps I should play the game again to check these things out.

[Judai]

It says on the TP box that it contains "Animated Blood", but I don't recall seeing any, or much at all. And besides, my version (GC) of OOT had green blood.

Beast Ganon bleeds when you damaged him.

Anyways I don't think OOT is the BLOODIST game on the N64.... Maybe Conker if I recall.

[Mases]

Just thinking about it now... I don't recall any blood at all in any of the Legend of Zelda titles... ever. Perhaps there are a few cases, but I don't think it ever is too much or too violent, otherwise I think I'd remember it. :)

That being said, I can't say with certainty since I can't really name ANY E rated game that does have blood.

Interesting topic though, I'd be curious to know what other bloody E rated games there are.

[link67125]

in the first version ganon spits out blood but in the other two it was green

[Petman1325]

Beast Ganon bleeds when you damaged him.

Anyways I don't think OOT is the BLOODIST game on the N64.... Maybe Conker if I recall.
I said bloodiest E-rated game. Conker's Bad Fur Day was rated M! (No, I haven't played it...)

Just thinking about it now... I don't recall any blood at all in any of the Legend of Zelda titles... ever. Perhaps there are a few cases, but I don't think it ever is too much or too violent, otherwise I think I'd remember it. :)

That being said, I can't say with certainty since I can't really name ANY E rated game that does have blood.

Interesting topic though, I'd be curious to know what other bloody E rated games there are.
Oh, I just looked them up on ESRB. There are a lot (animated blood). I'm impressed Petz Rescue Wildlife Vet has animated blood. So does Sonic Mega Collection Plus. Also Eco the Dolphin. Wow, ESRB has been getting strict! There are 91 games in the database with the rankings of E with Animated Blood, Mild Blood, and Blood (mainly animated). Suprisingly, I didn't find Ocarina of Time in there. Ocarina of Time was only listed for violence (not fantasy violence). But, that was for the Wii/GameCube versions. The N64 version didn't come up. How do you think of ESRB back in 1998 and now?

[Chris]

I have beaten Oot but I don't remember any blood...

[Josh]

Mmm. I don't quite remember seeing any blood either, maybe just a little something in the Shadow Temple, but I don't remember Ganon giving me anything.

[waldo12]

really some one send me a message telling me where there was blood coming out of people and a mean blood red blood not green blue anything

[linkman8]

really some one send me a message telling me where there was blood coming out of people and a mean blood red blood not green blue anything
I don't recall there ever being a scenario like that. Generally if it was anything, blood only came out of certain monsters.

[Kitsu]

The most common is to fight Ganon and see him cough up the blood, or when certain bosses or monsters are killed.





http://www.platypuscomix.net/interactive2/floormaster5.JPG





Above is a scene from the Shadow Temple, enough proof for you?

[Josh]

Mmm. The would be blood indeed.

Now, is there more and how much is too much?

[Kitsu]

Okay, everyone keeps asking "well, where is there blood", so I'm posting this link, it shows the gold cartrige edition, and the 1.1-1.4 edition pictures.

http://www.platypuscomix.net/interactive2/ocarinaphotos.html

Scroll down a little bit and the pictures will be there.

[Petman1325]

In TP, there is an extreme lack of blood to recieve animated blood. The red flashes (NOT SLOSHES!) must count as animated blood. Unlike OoT where there is an actual slosh.
Kitsu, you did a good job!

[Kitsu]

In TP, there is an extreme lack of blood to recieve animated blood. The red flashes (NOT SLOSHES!) must count as animated blood. Unlike OoT where there is an actual slosh.
Kitsu, you did a good job!


Thank you. And yes, I think that Twilight Princess showed far too little "blood" to be considered for a T rating.


http://www.kasuto.net/twilight_princess/screenshots/tp_screen029.jpg

Above is a link to a picture from TP, showing Link attacking an enemy, I don't see any "animated blood", only the indication that he hit the creature.



Now here's a picture from Ocarina of Time: I see airborne blood.

http://reviews.cnet.com/legacy-game-platforms/the-legend-of-zelda/4528-9882_7-30989269-11.html?tag=contentBody;screenshots

[Petman1325]

Really! TP, the only "Blood" there is the red flash.
OoT, they went bloody, gory, and recieved E. I want to see a Teen rated Grand Theft Auto!

[Kitsu]

Yeah, exactly. But seriously, how is there "sloshes" of blood and Ocarina, and it gets and E rating, and Twilight Princess shows hardly any and it gets an T? Is the ESRB on crack or something?

[Petman1325]

I just saw that if you attack an enemy, some purple chunks come out of it. I wonder if that would be concidered gore? Found it in the Wii version, so it should be in the N64 version.

[Durion]

But seriously, imagine a seven year old kid picking up this game and enter the Market as adult. Who gave that an E-rating?!

I did it when I was 4 years old

[Chrono]

The slightest bit of blood doesn't determine what rating a game will be. TP was rated T for a number of reasons.

[Kitsu]

The slightest bit of blood doesn't determine what rating a game will be. TP was rated T for a number of reasons.

That's true, on the box rating for Twilight Princess, it says Fantasy Violence. And not just killing, but scenes of characters being attacked and so on.

[Petman1325]

Yeah, but OoT had a crap load of blood and never got "Animated Blood". Twilight Princess did get "Fantacy Violence" because of the cutscenes that make it seem almost PG-13. OoT, I'm impressed it didn't get the Animated Blood due to the stabbings and the gagings in there. TP does have a crap load of violent scenes, but hardly any blood, only red flashes.

[Kitsu]

Yeah, but OoT had a crap load of blood and never got "Animated Blood". Twilight Princess did get "Fantacy Violence" because of the cutscenes that make it seem almost PG-13. OoT, I'm impressed it didn't get the Animated Blood due to the stabbings and the gagings in there. TP does have a crap load of violent scenes, but hardly any blood, only red flashes.

Alright, I don't know exactly what is considered animated blood in terms of games like Zelda, but I'm pretty sure that the stabbings would be considered "realistic" violence, not animated blood. However, the ESRB has much different standards then the movie industry, in the sense of blood and violence.

However, Ocarina of Time had a much darker storyline, and I think we must take this into account. Just because Twilight Princess had[has] better graphics, doesn't necessarily mean it should just automatically get an higher rating if there is violence.

In Ocarina of Time, there were "sloshes" of blood, that were clearly visible. If these "sloshes" were in Twilight Princess, they would be animated blood, likely. Just because Twilight Princess has better graphics doesn't mean it can convey violence better or not.

Even if Ocarina is a lesser render, it can still convey violence realistically. I Ocarina of Time would of had an 'T' rating if what was implied was actually shown. Take the Shadow Temple for example; one part says


"..The tale of Hyrule's long, bloody history.."

There are many examples, but I won't consume your time with all of them. My conclusion is basically that, Ocarina of Time was darker in the sense that certain things were implied more than actually shown, and only a more mature audience would perceive them. But there was indeed an exceptional amount of blood, and even gore.

[Hanyou]

As an owner of the gold cart, I can verify that OoT in its original form is substantially more violent and graphic than most E-rated games I've played. In fact, I'd say it's almost up there with the Teen-rated Goldeneye in terms of violence, though Goldeneye has enough blood in it for an M rating. Of course, the frequency of "violent deaths" is much less in OoT.

I get the impression that the ESRB was much more lenient back then, before graphics got realistic enough to really be disturbing. Even Goldeneye seems like it should have warranted an M rating, looking back and considering that the less violent Halo (where you spend most of your time shooting aliens and green-blooded zombies, if I remember correctly) somehow earned that score. I strongly believe Ocarina in its original form deserved a Teen rating, not only for the blood and violence (which was substantial) but also for the dark themes and the downright frightening moments. The bottom of the well, with enemies like the dead hand, was substantially more scary than, say, the ghost house in Mario 64 or Mad Monster Mansion. It was disturbing on the whole. I like this.

So yes, in the end, it deserved a Teen rating more than any other Zelda game. While I don't mind a childlike approach in such games as The Wind Waker, I think it was all the better before it was censored, and its edginess gave it its sheer power. The blood added to this. Drawing Ganon's blood in the final confrontation--when you plunge your sword straight into his face--was immensely satisfying and powerful. It felt heroic. Drawing green snot in the newer versions did not.

[mewtwolord]

i would give oot a better rating blood check awesomeness check super long extreme check story 10 pie check sluagter fest check

[Midna666]

In versions 1.0 1.1 and 1.2, there was blood in there. For example, when Ganon and Ganondorf are slayed, they cough up red blood (except 1.2). When Link gets attacked, a red slosh comes out of him (could be a red flash or blood). Once Barnigade is defeated, he explodes in a bloody way. So, do you think OoT is the bloodiest E-rated game (1.0 1.1 1.2)?

I never played those version's.
Wow I feel like I'm missing out.

[Hero Of Termina]

I almost puked at the site of the blood! Yes! OOT IS the bloodiest E rated game!

[Petman1325]

I just replayed OoT to discover how bloody it is (and to also do the 3 hearts challenge). I saw on the Barniade battle, when you would attack him, he would have green blood come out from his body. The blood would splash on the floor and stay on the floor until the battle conclouded, in which he explodes in green blood, and his bloody internal organs would stay on the battlefield until you left.

[Axle the Beast]

After checking Kitsu's link on the last page, I see there is a fair amount of blood (or at least there was, in the case of Ganondorf's cough,) in the game, at least for an E-Rated game.

But one instance of blood ya'll are forgetting is the Dead Hand in the Bottom of the Well and the Shadow Temple; it had bloodstains all over it.

[Skull_Kid]

But the "blood" was only in the first version... later versions have green blood, so it makes it whacky and gives it the E on it's rate

[Axle the Beast]

But the "blood" was only in the first version... later versions have green blood, so it makes it whacky and gives it the E on it's rate
There actually is blood in the final version, although maybe not "fresh" blood.

There's a lot of blood on the ground in certain parts of the Shadow Temple, and the Dead Hand enemy is covered in bloodstains.

[Petman1325]

Yes, but a lot of the blood was "Toned Down" in the final version of the game.

[Zeanith]

After checking Kitsu's link on the last page, I see there is a fair amount of blood (or at least there was, in the case of Ganondorf's cough,) in the game, at least for an E-Rated game.

But one instance of blood ya'll are forgetting is the Dead Hand in the Bottom of the Well and the Shadow Temple; it had bloodstains all over it.

oooh...I love me some dead hand...their so wierd!

And Shadow Temple kicks butt too.


But yeah, OoT 64 is pretty darn bloody. AND I LOVE IT. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Blood splatters are the new polka-dots, you know. :p

[Petman1325]

oooh...I love me some dead hand...their so wierd!

And Shadow Temple kicks butt too.


But yeah, OoT 64 is pretty darn bloody. AND I LOVE IT. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, Dead Hand got his name for being dead rotting flesh. The Shadow Temple looked more of a torture area then a temple. With the invisable walls, death traps, etc.

[LinkOwnsYou]

I think that OoT would have been better wit a E+10 rating, because the shadow temple looked more like a trorture chamber than a temple, besides you can see all the blood stains in the walls and the floor, and remember the spikes wall in the boss key room, and the DEADHands, wonder why they called them like that.

[bellum]

well no I don't think it was bloody at all (except for Ganondorf and Ganon) but thare have been bloodier E rated games that I have seen I don't know their names but I know that there are some E reted games bloodier than OoT at also seems more like a E10+ game like linkownsyou said

[Amelie]

It might be the most bloody Zelda game.. but I dont think it is the bloodyest E game

I dont remember the name of it.. but there was another E rated game I played that had more red in it then OoT ^^

[Shawnogohma]

There's a lot of blood on the ground in certain parts of the Shadow Temple
I mostly saw that in the Well. Along with some torture devices and words like "death" and "bloody".

[bellum]

I really don't think anyone's really gonna care about the Blood on the ground but it still is blood.The well is basically I mini Shadow temple, It looks completly the same blood on the ground and everything I"m losing my point aren't I but I still think that there a way more bloody E rated games

[Axle the Beast]

I think that OoT would have been better wit a E+10 rating, because the shadow temple looked more like a trorture chamber than a temple, besides you can see all the blood stains in the walls and the floor, and remember the spikes wall in the boss key room, and the DEADHands, wonder why they called them like that.
I agree. The only problem with that is that the E10+ rating didn't exist when OoT was released; it's relatively new.

[bellum]

well OoT talking about Bloody I dont think so.Tony Hawk definetly I have some E-rated Tony Hawk games and boy are they bloody.ALso I wouldn't call OoT Bloody I would just give it mild violence and if you have collectors edition like me it really isn't blood it's just green gush everywhere, ecpecially when you kill Ganondorf and Ganon.Ok Ganondorf coughs of blood and Ganons blood just goes everywhere.Tony hawk is much much bloodier, well for me beacause I stink and blood goes everywhere.

[SethOmega]

I dare you to play Monster Hunter, and accuse OoT of having to much blood.... Also, MH is a PS2 Game, but it still rocks.

[Petman1325]

Dude, we're accusing an E rated game of having a lot of blood. Monster Hunter is rated Teen, so it isn't allowed to be used in comparison. Although, due to the descriptions, it does seem like a bloody game, but it is not rated E. OoT was rated E, almost hit T, but managed to get out of it by having a whole bunch of edits done to it. OoT did have some things in it, such as when you hit an enemy, blue and green chunks come out of it, as well as when you get hit, as previously stated, you do have a red "slosh" of "blood" come from your body.

[Johnny Boy]

There was blood everywhere on the walls in the bottom of the well and the Shadow Temple.
The Dead Hand is a great E-rated miniboss..:P

[UsayEldaZay]

As everyone has said, the Shadow Temple appears to have stained blood all over the walls and everything. The well, also has this look. But other than that, I think any age group can play the game without getting scared. Hahah or you are scared of forests, fire, ice, water, or sand :D

[Johnny Boy]

Yeah, pretty much everything else in Oot other than the Shadow Temple
and the bottom of the well are perfectly E-rated.
Well, maybe the Great Fairy isn't E-rated...but you know what I mean. :D

[MOS3]

In versions 1.0 1.1 and 1.2, there was blood in there. For example, when Ganon and Ganondorf are slayed, they cough up red blood (except 1.2). When Link gets attacked, a red slosh comes out of him (could be a red flash or blood). Once Barnigade is defeated, he explodes in a bloody way. So, do you think OoT is the bloodiest E-rated game (1.0 1.1 1.2)?

what do you mean versions 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2? I know the N64 version is different from the gamecube one....so what's the 1.2?

[Caleb, Of Asui]

Most of my memories of Ocarina of Time don't involve much blood, other than Ganondorf coughing up blood and Ganon being owned. Even then, all the versions I have show the green blood. I guess there's blood in the Shadow Temple and the Bottom of the Well. I don't really remember seeing much, but I did see a screenshot on Zelda Wiki that shows blood on the floor around a post in the Shadow Temple, kind of smearead, almost like paint. The dead hand mini-boss does also seem relatively bloody, so I don't know.:hmm: This is only really a small portion of the game, though. It doesn't seem to be overall bloody. I don't think many E-rated games get much more bloody, but I'm sure some of the crazy people in existance could find something.:S

[LucarioMaster]

Yeah, pretty much everything else in Oot other than the Shadow Temple
and the bottom of the well are perfectly E-rated.
Well, maybe the Great Fairy isn't E-rated...but you know what I mean. :D
what? are you in love with her?? are you emberassed to admit it?? well are you?? (if you are i don't care)

[Johnny Boy]

Nah, I'm not in love with her lol.
When I was young playing through for the first time, I was pretty
darn scared of her though.
She screams as loud as she can then she..uh...gives you magic power. yeah..that's it.:O

[Axle the Beast]

what do you mean versions 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2? I know the N64 version is different from the gamecube one....so what's the 1.2?
Those version numbers do not refer to the Gamecube version, at least not to my knowledge.

There were several versions of OoT released. Several edits were made to the game. After those edits were made, all cartridges contains the newer version.

Some of these edits included editing out blood, or changing the music of the Fire Temple.

[El Bagu]

I guess I might be out of topic but what I want to point out is the following: is blood really necessery for making a brutal game?

Back on the topic the blood I noticed was as many orthers have mentioned the blood in the bottom of the well and in the shadow temple. For me the blood was not an issue in itself but more so the items that looked like torture devices (has also been mentioned but is important), aren´t the devices actually worse then the blood itself?

[Link_IshSexy]

I never seem to notice blood in games...*sigh*

I couldn't find any blood in Twilight Princess, unless that big red explosion after you kill the creatures is 'blood.'

[LoZfan]

I think that OoT would have been better wit a E+10 rating, because the shadow temple looked more like a trorture chamber than a temple, besides you can see all the blood stains in the walls and the floor, and remember the spikes wall in the boss key room, and the DEADHands, wonder why they called them like that.

hmm.. I see your point... the shadow temple does look like a tourture chamber.. plus.. it's in the friggin graveyard.... and Deadhand the Re-DEADs and the Gibdoes made things worse

[Johnny Boy]

I recently just started a new file in Oot and I'm looking for things
that are not E-rated.
So far, I have found nothing wrong with anything..except the Great Fairy..
Now when I get to the bottom of the well, things may change
But right now, this game does not appeal to me to be the slightest of
any bloody E-rated game.

[ChargewithSword]

OOT does not focus to much on the blood and treats it as a simple bit a realism. The story inherits the deep story telling of books and adventures rather than being a simple hack and slash. This makes Ocarina not to violent to escape the "E" ratings grasp. If you notice how many of the areas with blood in OOT appear to have a form of mystery around it you'll find that you may be focusing on what occured there or why is this like this. The bottom of the Well contained blood however I found myself to be wondering on who's it is and why had they been tortured. It isn't to violent for an "E" game since it's a story game like I had said.

[GeasOfChainsaw]

Nah, I remember a PS1 game rated E, that had lots of bloog.