The other Triangle

[Kitsu]

In the Legend of Zelda, Okarina of Time on Link's sheild, there is an depection of a red phoinex heading toward the Triforce, whilst pulling another golden triangle up toward it. What does this mean?

The triangle here seems to be of the same equilatoral design of the others of the triforce. The phoniex has long been associated with the Legend of Zelda and the Triforce; could it also have something to with this other mysterious triangle?


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It has been speculated that there is a possibility of there being a "fouth peice' of the Triforce. Henceforth, the peice that the bird is "pulling up", could be another peice of the golden power.
However, perhaps this is another such relic, likewise the Golden Power so depicted actually being a seperate relic than this "complete" triangle shown "ascending". However, that is just speculation.

But, I would like to know, or even hear theroies as to what this "golden triangle" may be.

[Welbanks]

its probably just there for design, but it looks like it would fit in that empty spot in the middle of the triforce lol

[chrisbg99]

No substance to it. Considering since AoL when they finally introduced all 3 pieces of the Triforce (emphasis on the 'tri-') there has never been a mention of another piece.

If anything it may represent the Triforce of Courage as that piece represents the spirit of a warrior or hero. Yeah I know Courage would be on there twice but it makes more sense then there being some fourth piece that has never been mentioned. Ever.

[Kitsu]

I know what you mean, but if the triforce were to be completed by another peice, then you would still have three points, hence it would still be a triangle.

[waldo12]

i kinda think that it if one perso gathers all parts and has them in them like how link has courage then that piece shows up or that there is like a god above the goddess and he has a piece thats the most powerful and is extremely hidden and unheard of. those are my thoughts i have no real proof so whatever

[Kybyrian]

Yes, but tri not only references to triangle but tri also references to the number 3. It's been discussed many times before about a fourth piece of the triforce. In the Zelda games that have mentioned the whole triforce and whatnot there were only 3 pieces to the triforce. The triforce of power, the triforce of wisdom, and the triforce of courage. Each which Ganondorf, Zelda, and Link have respectively.

The idea of another piece of the triforce has been shot down many times by game experts and other people. The other triangle at the bottom of the Hylian Shield in the picture you referenced is assumed to just be there for design. Without any confirmation from Nintendo we can't really say anything more, though.

[linkman8]

Like previously mentioned, the theory of a fourth triforce piece has no substance. It has really no facts backing it up. Besides, in order for there to be a fourth piece there'd have to be a fourth goddess.

Oh, and I believe there is a Gannon-Ban rule on this. Just for fun: http://www.gannon-banned.com/#fourth

[Josh]

Grah. I should kill whoever came up with the quadforce.

Not only would this idea kill the storyline that has been going on for some 20 years, but it would have to introduce a new person who has some new power. And, that would mean that Ganondorf would have been chasing the wrong thing the whole time, like how it showed the Triforce in WW.

[blackice_cc]

Nah, there's no such thing as the fourth Triforce piece. In my opinion at least. Just like everyone else said, I think it's just part of the design of the shield, nothing more. If anything, it would represent the Triforce of Courage, as that's the hero's Triforce, and the hero would be the one wielding the shield.

[Kitsu]

Hm, that's interesting. I think the triangle represents the triforce of courage, seeing as it's a "Hylian sheild", and in the game, when you get the sheild it says that "it is the same one used by soldiers of Hyrule."
Thus the triforce of courage would be on their sheilds.

[elementskater995]

Yea its just there to look good. Imagine how lameo it would look if the sheild had nothing but the triforce on on it!!:eek: that would be lame!!

[Skull_Kid]

maybe the light force is the complete Triforce....
Maybe that triangle is just to draamtize the shield...dunno

[Chris]

I think that 4th triangle means nothing but a decoration. If there was a 4th triforce piece, who would wield it? Plus, it wouldn't be a triforce, it would be as Josh said, a Quadforce. So don't think to much of that little triangle.

[Bluelink6]

http://zelda.neoseeker.com/uploads/zelda/hylian_shield_mini.jpgI was thinking...what does this mean?

The hylians sheild has thetrifoce with a bird flying to it....holding another triangle. what could this symbolize or mean? And Before canyone says it, Im not saying its another peice. So no-one say it might be, ok?

[Skull_Kid]

Theory and Hylian Shield

The Hylian Shield from Ocarina of Time with the Fourth Piece circledTetraforce is a name given to the Triforce by people that believe that the Triforce has four pieces instead of three. Belief in the Tetraforce's existence was sparked by people who noticed on Link's Hylian Shield the pedestal on which the bird is standing on as a fourth triangle and jumped to the conclusion that it was a fourth piece of the Triforce that had been separated from the others, hence the name 'Tetraforce'. Some say the bird on the shield is carrying the 4th piece to the rest of the Triforce. Some note that in the final scene that she's portrayed as Shiek in Ocarina of Time, Zelda did say something along the lines of getting the "True Force" if he or she had equal Power, Wisdom and Courage. The "True Force to Govern All", however, is used time and time again when referring to the complete Triforce, which consists of just three pieces. In later redesigns of the Hylian Shield (Like the one in Twilight Princess or the Hero's Shield in Majora's Mask) the possible fourth piece is missing.

Naming
Possibly though, "Tetraforce" is not a correct name for the holy triangle if there was a fourth piece. In the very first The Legend of Zelda, there were only two pieces of the Triforce, the third one not being introduced until The Adventure of Link. It is unlikely that Nintendo was already planning the story of The Adventure of Link before they knew how the first game would do, especially since it came out in a time when the video game industry was still recovering from its near destruction a few years earlier. If so, "Triforce" refers to the triangle-shape and not the number of pieces of the (since The Adventure of Link) whole thing, in which case the Triforce stays the Triforce no matter the number of pieces.

A Fourth Goddess
The known legend in the history is that the Triforce was created in the beginning by three goddesses which leaves no presence of a fourth goddess that created the supposed fourth piece. Note that there are more gods mentioned throughout the series though, but they are never connected to the three who created the Triforce.

Goddess of Time
This theory is widely regarded as being foolish, though there are still some people in the community that support it. It is speculated by some that the missing "piece" represents time, and some supporters have used Princess Zelda's mention of a Goddess of Time in Majora's Mask as evidence. However, detractors point out that there's also some evidence to suggest that Nayru and a goddess of time are the same being. The Goddess of Time may be Farore, however, as Ciela states that she is the spirit of courage and of time, though no mention of the three goddesses is made in Phantom Hourglass.

Sand Goddess
Other theorists claim the "Sand Goddess" represented by the Desert Colossus could be viewed as evidence for a fourth piece. This Goddess would explain the existence of the Gerudo, as while Farore created life to uphold Nayru's law, this supposedly Evil Goddess may have created life that would break the law and as a result she could have been banished along with her piece of the Triforce.

Zelda
Some people believe that Princess Zelda is the 4th goddess, and represents the fourth piece of the Tetraforce, hence her pirate reincarnation name, Tetra (from The Wind Waker) which is Greek for the word "four" (although this most likely has to do with the fish species tetra and not the Tetraforce). There is a symbolic cut scene from The Wind Waker, when Tetra's necklace piece unites with a small triangle given to her from the King. This could be seen as a visual metaphor of Zelda owning the fourth piece of the Tetraforce and having the ability to unite it. Unfortunately for these believers, Link also came across the instance of needing to combine his Triforce of Courage thus proving that it is unnecessary to possess the fabled 4th piece to combine the shard of a piece of the Triforce.

Another possibility is that the fourth inner piece represents hope; this theory comes from the Oracle games. Since there is the oracles of seasons, ages, and secrets each corresponding to a piece of the Triforce (seasons=power,ages=wisdom, and secrets=courage) and eventually Princess Zelda comes along claiming to be the oracle of hope, possibly meaning that she is corresponding to the fourth piece of the Tetraforce. It is also possible that Zelda had actually always been a goddess of hope sent to Hyrule to be continuously reborn as the Princess of Hyrule.

Kindness
The fourth piece could represent "Kindness", as Majora's Mask featured four Great Fairies in the four directions, called the Great Fairy of Courage, the Great Fairy of Wisdom and the Great Fairy of Power. The fourth one was called the the Great Fairy of Kindness. However, these Great Fairies represent the qualities of the Four Giants, so it is unknown if there actually is a verified connection.

Light Spirits
In Twilight Princess there are four Light Spirits (Eldin, Faron, Lanayru and Ordona) each representing their own province and three of them represent a Goddess Eldin represents Din, Lanayru represents Nayru and Faron represents Farore. The fourth spirit, Ordona also represents Farore. When talking to Lanayru, it says "We three spirits were ordered by the Goddesses to seal away the evil power," which is implying that either

Ordona was not present at the time of the incident.
Ordon and Ordona are not considered as part of Hyrule, as mentioned later in the game by Shad, who says "I hear he's not from Hyrule proper at all" .
The creators have made it clear that Ordona is supposed to represent the second half of Farore's name

Shadow
The most little thought fourth goddess may be Twinrova as she raised ganon in the OoT, but unlikely because she doesn't have any true god powers.

Fierce Diety
It is believed that when one has the complete Tetraforce, it is impossible to control its power. People use Fierce Deity Link from Majora's Mask as an example. It is believed that in a past incarnation in the Zelda timeline, Link had found the complete Tetraforce and became immortal. He could not control his power, and he caused much destruction, so the Goddesses created the Song of Healing, which was used to seal the Fierce Deity inside a mask. It is thought that Fierce Deity Link may have been evil in the past since the child wearing Majora's Mask on the Moon tells you that you will be playing the bad guy when he hands you the Fierce Deity's Mask. Also, if one looks at the Fierce Deity's armor, there is a triangle on the armor over his left pectoral muscle, this could possibly represent a fourth piece, or perhaps it shows the triforce compleated with a fourth triangle for the center hole.

Triforce of Termina
Skull Kid is shortly seen above what seems to be the Terminan version of the Triforce. It is possible that this may have something to do with the Tetraforce. The Stone Tower's carvings make this very likely.

Light Force
Some timeline theories may argue that the Light Force from The Minish Cap, is the completed Tetraforce. This is possible if The Minish Cap takes place before all other Zelda games, and some unknown event after The Minish Cap and before Ocarina of Time causes the middle piece of the Tetraforce to unbind itself and become lost. The Triforce could have earned its name, representing an incomplete Light Force, or otherwise Tetraforce. Another possible theory is that at the end of The Minish Cap, Vaati states that when he tried to absorb the Light Force from Princess Zelda, he could not absorb all of it. This could mean that the portion of Light Force he did not obtain became the "normal" Triforce. This portion of the theory does not hold very well, considering the properties of the Light Force do not match those of the Trifoce and the many Triforce crests scattered throughout Hyrule in the game. However, it could be argued that the properties of the Triforce could change once the missing fourth piece is united with it.

Triforce of Shadow
There is a theory that the dark space in the middle of the triforce is a supposed "Triforce of Shadow". Though there is not much evidence that there is a Triforce (or tetraforce) of shadow. It also helps prove Dark Link's creation.

The Great Force
According to unused text in the game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Link would make a cameo at Starbeans Café the first time the player selected to drink the Teeheespresso. The Triforce would also, somehow, be collected in the game and could be given to Link in exhange for the Greatforce ho was likely the fourth piece OR the completed Triforce.. This was, however, changed, presumably to avoid confusion as they has declined it on several occasions (see below).

Officially
Despite all this, Nintendo and Shigeru have vehemently denied it on multiple occasions. The fourth Triangle was removed from later redesigns of the Hylian Shield and also from the Hero's Shield from The Wind Waker and Majora's Mask. Officially, the Tetraforce does not exist and it should be considered fan speculation.


-Taken from www.ZeldaWiki.org

[Bluelink6]

that's a looong post. But i can see all the ways people could have though of it that way. Maybe the thing with theories about a quadforce was why they changed the hylian sheild design? I mean, the triforce represents the zelda franchise. turning it cor people saying it was something its not would ruin it, right?

[Skull_Kid]

Exactly... I copy-pasted that article cause it explains and denies all possible theories,a nd, by the way, great thing to discuss, congrats:D

[kpllk]

That sort of made a little sense.

[Bluelink6]

Exactly... I copy-pasted that article cause it explains and denies all possible theories,a nd, by the way, great thing to discuss, congrats:D

What do you know? I finally made a thread skuul kid approves of! :D

Anyway, I tihnk that maybe this 4th triangle represents...maybe it represent whatever triforce peice comes on top, better than the others? Birds soar. Fly. If the bird was carrying a triforce peice, a trianlge symobolizing a peice of the triforce better than the other 2, that would fly up with it, symbolizing it soaring to greatness above the other peices, it being better than the others.

[Skull_Kid]

Even though you think so, I have nothing against you, kid...
And this is a thing wich havent' yet been discussed... yet i barely touched the subject on my light force thread

[elementskater995]

Iv'e got one word for you: DECORATION! D-e-c-o-r-a-t-i-o-n
They probably thought it looked bad so...TADAA!!

[Bluelink6]

But anyway, that peice....If my other theory was right, which peice might it be? there's a 1 in 3 chance of it being power, same for courage and wisdom. But if it was to symbolize power, I an see why. But considering ganon, who has power, always loses, somehow I don't think so. Courage will help you do scary tihngs, but other than that its not much good. What about wisdom?

[Skull_Kid]

It probably was meant to be a fourth piece, but was scrapped and the art was eradicated from more recent titles... also, it is the Hylian Royal Family Crest

[Bluelink6]

That's true....has the bloodline of the family ever changed? If it has, then that might explain why it changed, but I don't tihnk it ever did change. Is it the smae bloodline form the beginning to what it is currently, or...?

[Skull_Kid]

I don't get what you are trying to say, but i guess it didn't change... also... In the PH the shield has what it looks like a lobster

[Bluelink6]

What I'm saying is....well...you said the crest of the hylian sheild was the creats of the royal family. what I'm saying is...If the bloodline of the royal family changed, that could explain the change in sheild design. and also, That would fit if nintendo had realized the fourth triangle was making poeple think of a quadforce.

[Skull_Kid]

Follow my line of thoughts: LoZ introduced only two pieces, and AoL introduced the third one, courage, at the time, and by the time the hylian shield's design was created, wich was in the SNES ALttP, and the Shield wasn't called hylian shield at the time, but the layout was already in the game art

[Bluelink6]

Which is all well and good knowing when the desing was created, but how does that explain the 4th peice shown? unless it mayhap symbolized An idea someone had for a 4th peice that had been brushed aside.

[Skull_Kid]

Exactly, ALttP was juts the 3rd game of the series, and they probably had another piece in their sleeves, but Triforce got so commonly known as the high symbol of the Zelda series that it was scrapped off, cause the Tetra/Quadforce rumours started only after MM or so

[Bluelink6]

and the reason they started after MM was becuase on that you could see the pattern whch showed the fourth peice, right? I see what you're getting at. and then they canged it, which I tihnk must have been becuase of those rumours circulating about a quadforce.......becuase triforce was the symbol of the zelda series. Changing it justl ike that.....I would be the death bells ringing for the series, essentially , i beleive.

[Skull_Kid]

Changing it wouldn't be the deathbells, but would upset the fans, also, it isn't shown in the Majora's Mask game, nor art... The main reason was that people started to speculate mainly about the Goddess in the Spirit Temple(Also shown in TP in the Arbiters' Grounds Dungeon), wich is a Gerudo Goddess

[Bluelink6]

Yeah, maybe...but if it didn't go down well with the fans, it would lose popularity, right? So maybe less people would buy zleda games, until they didn't have the money to make another one.

[Skull_Kid]

Not lose popularity, the who whole thing is that, after the triforce becoming the staple it became in the series in ALttP and later in OoT, adding a 4th piece would seem like forcing things up

[Bluelink6]

That is true.Also, it just ruins the sacred triangle. It doesn't look right withut that gap in the middle, and if there were 4, the 4th filling that gap, it might as well be just 1 big triangle. and that really wouldn't og down well. and also, that would mean someone would end up with lot's of power, and - oh yeah....something we're missing. This 4 th peice...if they'd used it.....what would it be? not courage power wisdom.... something like...sometihng that sums it all up?

[zeldafan999]

there could be another piece because there is the 3 pieces and then a triangular hole in the middle that could be a spot for another piece of triforce

[Skull_Kid]

That's what we've been discussing all this time, Zeldafan999... Well... If you get along the 4ht goddess theory, you can believe that it was either: a) an evil goddess who was banished to Termina(more likely plausible location) or b) Goddess of Time.,..

Well... if termina is a parallel universe how in the heck do they know of the existence of the Triforce?It is depicted in an almost insultuous display throughout the Stone Temple Tower

[Bluelink6]

That's what we've been discussing all this time, Zeldafan999... Well... If you get along the 4ht goddess theory, you can believe that it was either: a) an evil goddess who was banished to Termina(more likely plausible location) or b) Goddess of Time.,..

Well... if termina is a parallel universe how in the heck do they know of the existence of the Triforce?It is depicted in an almost insultuous display throughout the Stone Temple Tower


there could be another piece because there is the 3 pieces and then a triangular hole in the middle that could be a spot for another piece of triforce


The quadforce theory, as far as I'm aware, Is one disliked by most zelda fans. Although...that evil godess theory of yours skull kid, I tihnk we might have something. If that fourth goddess was represented by a fourth peice, that might explain why the people of termina know about the triforce. Uness they have a parallel version of the triforce in their parallel world....

[zeldafan999]

ok i just typed in hylian shield to look at this theory a bit more and i eventually got to zeldawiki for article on shields and i noticed something there can be a 4th and a 5th piece but a 5th piece would not go in the main 3 pieces. it is the shield from links awakening it has two triangles of to the sides

[Bluelink6]

Can you display an image of that sheild you just described?

[Josh]

Can you simply follow his instructions of going to ZeldaWiki, typing in shields and looking at the image? No. You're too lazy.

http://zeldawiki.org/images/4/43/Shield.jpg

One piece on the upper left and one on the upper right.

[Bluelink6]

Im talking about THIS sheild. See? A bird holding up the fourth peice. But what might it mean...

http://zelda.neoseeker.com/uploads/zelda/hylian_shield_mini.jpg

[fredthehylian]

I'm guessing the bird is supposed to be kaebora haebora and the triangle is supposed to be his triforce. According to the manual, he's an old sage, so who says he can't have died and reincarnated?

[Zemen]

i kind of noticed this but the triforce piece that the bird is holding is upside down. all the other pieces have their points facing up, but this one is facing down so that it can fit into the middle. just an observation that it points a completely different way from the other three. it looks like it was made to fit in the middle.

[Midna666]

There can't be a 4th piece of the Triforce otherwise Ganon would not have been able to summon the Triforce at the end of WW.

[Mases]

While I fully believe what is the standard [3 Triforce Pieces], there is one thing that seems to be worth mentioning.

As has been said numerous times in this thread, Din, Nayru, and Farore where the three goddesses.

In Twilight Princess, there was the Light Spirits, which were named after the Goddesses

Eldin - Din
Lanayru - Nayru
Faron - Farore

Then of course there was a 4th Light Spirit, 'Ordona'. However, it does not have an original 3 Goddess to go along with it.

It's been said that Ordona isn't as important as Eldin, Lanayru, or Faron, since technically he was Outside of Hyrule.

Perhaps for those that are curious about a 4th triforce piece, going by this knowledge, if there was an actual 4th piece or just the idea of there being more to the triforce, the additional portion would be like Ordona, there, but not as important as the other 3.

Still, I think we're overlooking the obvious a bit. Just cause Nintendo doesn't say something is false, it doesn't necessarily make it true. However, all evidence points to it being true. Just as Nintendo hasn't confirmed that in Twilight Princess... the whole time Mayor Bo was the mind behind Ganondorf. Nintendo hasn't said that this is false, because there is no need to say it. It is inferred. Just like the 3 pieces of the triforce.

[Linkmaster]

I think Mases pretty much just summed it up. And I think the fourth/fifth triforces on the shields were just decorations. Who agrees with me?

[chrisbg99]

I think it is there to represent piece of the triforce that a person who would use a shield would favor. In this case the triforce of courage.

[Steel Lover]

I agree with chrisbg

I think that the triforce represented being carried by the bird represents the triforce being carried by the carrier of the shield, hence, YOU are the bird and the triforce is the triforce of courage.

And if you are looking for symbolism in the shield with two seperate triangles on it (forgot which game it was) But it can be viewed like two of the triforce peices or two carriers of such joining together (link/Zelda) against the third.

[Bluelink6]

Hmm....symbolic on the sheilds...I tihnk thats probsbly what it is.

[Zemen]

the shield in OoT, is the main shield that people talk about when referring to a 4th triforce piece. the picture shown in the initial post on this thread shows an upside down triforce piece that would fit perfectly when placed in the middle. in the game, whenever a triforce piece is shown, it is upright with the point of the triangle facing up, so how come the one on the shield from OoT is facing down? i think that is what has people all in a flutter.

[Steel Lover]

Well it would look awkward if it were flipped honestly...

if ith as any meaning other than pure decoration i think it symbolizes what i outlined above

[LucarioMaster]

Theory and Hylian Shield

The Hylian Shield from Ocarina of Time with the Fourth Piece circledTetraforce is a name given to the Triforce by people that believe that the Triforce has four pieces instead of three. Belief in the Tetraforce's existence was sparked by people who noticed on Link's Hylian Shield the pedestal on which the bird is standing on as a fourth triangle and jumped to the conclusion that it was a fourth piece of the Triforce that had been separated from the others, hence the name 'Tetraforce'. Some say the bird on the shield is carrying the 4th piece to the rest of the Triforce. Some note that in the final scene that she's portrayed as Shiek in Ocarina of Time, Zelda did say something along the lines of getting the "True Force" if he or she had equal Power, Wisdom and Courage. The "True Force to Govern All", however, is used time and time again when referring to the complete Triforce, which consists of just three pieces. In later redesigns of the Hylian Shield (Like the one in Twilight Princess or the Hero's Shield in Majora's Mask) the possible fourth piece is missing.

Naming
Possibly though, "Tetraforce" is not a correct name for the holy triangle if there was a fourth piece. In the very first The Legend of Zelda, there were only two pieces of the Triforce, the third one not being introduced until The Adventure of Link. It is unlikely that Nintendo was already planning the story of The Adventure of Link before they knew how the first game would do, especially since it came out in a time when the video game industry was still recovering from its near destruction a few years earlier. If so, "Triforce" refers to the triangle-shape and not the number of pieces of the (since The Adventure of Link) whole thing, in which case the Triforce stays the Triforce no matter the number of pieces.

A Fourth Goddess
The known legend in the history is that the Triforce was created in the beginning by three goddesses which leaves no presence of a fourth goddess that created the supposed fourth piece. Note that there are more gods mentioned throughout the series though, but they are never connected to the three who created the Triforce.

Goddess of Time
This theory is widely regarded as being foolish, though there are still some people in the community that support it. It is speculated by some that the missing "piece" represents time, and some supporters have used Princess Zelda's mention of a Goddess of Time in Majora's Mask as evidence. However, detractors point out that there's also some evidence to suggest that Nayru and a goddess of time are the same being. The Goddess of Time may be Farore, however, as Ciela states that she is the spirit of courage and of time, though no mention of the three goddesses is made in Phantom Hourglass.

Sand Goddess
Other theorists claim the "Sand Goddess" represented by the Desert Colossus could be viewed as evidence for a fourth piece. This Goddess would explain the existence of the Gerudo, as while Farore created life to uphold Nayru's law, this supposedly Evil Goddess may have created life that would break the law and as a result she could have been banished along with her piece of the Triforce.

Zelda
Some people believe that Princess Zelda is the 4th goddess, and represents the fourth piece of the Tetraforce, hence her pirate reincarnation name, Tetra (from The Wind Waker) which is Greek for the word "four" (although this most likely has to do with the fish species tetra and not the Tetraforce). There is a symbolic cut scene from The Wind Waker, when Tetra's necklace piece unites with a small triangle given to her from the King. This could be seen as a visual metaphor of Zelda owning the fourth piece of the Tetraforce and having the ability to unite it. Unfortunately for these believers, Link also came across the instance of needing to combine his Triforce of Courage thus proving that it is unnecessary to possess the fabled 4th piece to combine the shard of a piece of the Triforce.

Another possibility is that the fourth inner piece represents hope; this theory comes from the Oracle games. Since there is the oracles of seasons, ages, and secrets each corresponding to a piece of the Triforce (seasons=power,ages=wisdom, and secrets=courage) and eventually Princess Zelda comes along claiming to be the oracle of hope, possibly meaning that she is corresponding to the fourth piece of the Tetraforce. It is also possible that Zelda had actually always been a goddess of hope sent to Hyrule to be continuously reborn as the Princess of Hyrule.

Kindness
The fourth piece could represent "Kindness", as Majora's Mask featured four Great Fairies in the four directions, called the Great Fairy of Courage, the Great Fairy of Wisdom and the Great Fairy of Power. The fourth one was called the the Great Fairy of Kindness. However, these Great Fairies represent the qualities of the Four Giants, so it is unknown if there actually is a verified connection.

Light Spirits
In Twilight Princess there are four Light Spirits (Eldin, Faron, Lanayru and Ordona) each representing their own province and three of them represent a Goddess Eldin represents Din, Lanayru represents Nayru and Faron represents Farore. The fourth spirit, Ordona also represents Farore. When talking to Lanayru, it says "We three spirits were ordered by the Goddesses to seal away the evil power," which is implying that either

Ordona was not present at the time of the incident.
Ordon and Ordona are not considered as part of Hyrule, as mentioned later in the game by Shad, who says "I hear he's not from Hyrule proper at all" .
The creators have made it clear that Ordona is supposed to represent the second half of Farore's name

Shadow
The most little thought fourth goddess may be Twinrova as she raised ganon in the OoT, but unlikely because she doesn't have any true god powers.

Fierce Diety
It is believed that when one has the complete Tetraforce, it is impossible to control its power. People use Fierce Deity Link from Majora's Mask as an example. It is believed that in a past incarnation in the Zelda timeline, Link had found the complete Tetraforce and became immortal. He could not control his power, and he caused much destruction, so the Goddesses created the Song of Healing, which was used to seal the Fierce Deity inside a mask. It is thought that Fierce Deity Link may have been evil in the past since the child wearing Majora's Mask on the Moon tells you that you will be playing the bad guy when he hands you the Fierce Deity's Mask. Also, if one looks at the Fierce Deity's armor, there is a triangle on the armor over his left pectoral muscle, this could possibly represent a fourth piece, or perhaps it shows the triforce compleated with a fourth triangle for the center hole.

Triforce of Termina
Skull Kid is shortly seen above what seems to be the Terminan version of the Triforce. It is possible that this may have something to do with the Tetraforce. The Stone Tower's carvings make this very likely.

Light Force
Some timeline theories may argue that the Light Force from The Minish Cap, is the completed Tetraforce. This is possible if The Minish Cap takes place before all other Zelda games, and some unknown event after The Minish Cap and before Ocarina of Time causes the middle piece of the Tetraforce to unbind itself and become lost. The Triforce could have earned its name, representing an incomplete Light Force, or otherwise Tetraforce. Another possible theory is that at the end of The Minish Cap, Vaati states that when he tried to absorb the Light Force from Princess Zelda, he could not absorb all of it. This could mean that the portion of Light Force he did not obtain became the "normal" Triforce. This portion of the theory does not hold very well, considering the properties of the Light Force do not match those of the Trifoce and the many Triforce crests scattered throughout Hyrule in the game. However, it could be argued that the properties of the Triforce could change once the missing fourth piece is united with it.

Triforce of Shadow
There is a theory that the dark space in the middle of the triforce is a supposed "Triforce of Shadow". Though there is not much evidence that there is a Triforce (or tetraforce) of shadow. It also helps prove Dark Link's creation.

The Great Force
According to unused text in the game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Link would make a cameo at Starbeans Café the first time the player selected to drink the Teeheespresso. The Triforce would also, somehow, be collected in the game and could be given to Link in exhange for the Greatforce ho was likely the fourth piece OR the completed Triforce.. This was, however, changed, presumably to avoid confusion as they has declined it on several occasions (see below).

Officially
Despite all this, Nintendo and Shigeru have vehemently denied it on multiple occasions. The fourth Triangle was removed from later redesigns of the Hylian Shield and also from the Hero's Shield from The Wind Waker and Majora's Mask. Officially, the Tetraforce does not exist and it should be considered fan speculation.


-Taken from www.ZeldaWiki.org
the 4th piece is NOT REAL
its part of the legend of the triforce
(the legend of the triforce)
three gods/goddeses create the triforce if 1 pice is removed from hyrule it shatters into pieces (mainly 7 - 8) the part that is on the sheild is part of the legend as well, the peinox (fire bird) is under the lost part of the triforce it cannot be returned to the sacred relm so is shatterd into pieces untill the next hero/ weilder of the master sword finds the shards. (end of story) i think thats how it goes

[Skull_Kid]

the 4th piece is NOT REAL
its part of the legend of the triforce
(the legend of the triforce)
three gods/goddeses create the triforce if 1 pice is removed from hyrule it shatters into pieces (mainly 7 - 8) the part that is on the sheild is part of the legend as well, the peinox (fire bird) is under the lost part of the triforce it cannot be returned to the sacred relm so is shatterd into pieces untill the next hero/ weilder of the master sword finds the shards. (end of story) i think thats how it goes

I never said that there was really a fourth piece, but hey, i liked the way you explained it:P, even though the first part is a little meh

[LucarioMaster]

maybe the light force is the complete Triforce....
Maybe that triangle is just to draamtize the shield...dunno

its part of a legend there is more to it

[Zenox]

If you look at the TP Hylian Shield, you'll notice it's not there. Nintendo noticed the fan theories about the 'Tetraforce' and removed it from the shield. During an interview with him, it was also stated it means nothing to the Triforce

Tetraforce on Zelda Wiki (http://zeldawiki.org/Tetraforce)

According to this, if it does exist, it may have been held by the Fierce Deity, which is why he wasn't killed by Majora, just banished into the mask. HOWEVER I believe it's just decoration, and caused much confusion.

[Midna666]

There is no fourth piece of the Triforce.

[LinkOwnsYou]

Like Midna666 sid there's no fourth piece in the TRIforce

[Amelie]

I think it is there for disign. It is a interesting idea. But if the Triforce had a 4th peice it wouldnt be the triforce. It would be the Quad force ^^

[Pinecove]

It's design. Means nothing.

In TP there isn't a fourth peice, and I'll say this right now. "Triforce" not "quadforce"

Edit: ^ ouch ninjad hardcore.

[FalseDestiny]

I agree that there isn't a fourth/fifth piece but I still think that there is more to the phoenix because there is an image of it (or a least part of it) under the triforce there is also the case that they still have the phoenix in the games after Ocarina

[Mike Pothier]

While I fully believe what is the standard [3 Triforce Pieces], there is one thing that seems to be worth mentioning.

As has been said numerous times in this thread, Din, Nayru, and Farore where the three goddesses.

In Twilight Princess, there was the Light Spirits, which were named after the Goddesses

Eldin - Din
Lanayru - Nayru
Faron - Farore

Then of course there was a 4th Light Spirit, 'Ordona'. However, it does not have an original 3 Goddess to go along with it.

It's been said that Ordona isn't as important as Eldin, Lanayru, or Faron, since technically he was Outside of Hyrule.

Perhaps for those that are curious about a 4th triforce piece, going by this knowledge, if there was an actual 4th piece or just the idea of there being more to the triforce, the additional portion would be like Ordona, there, but not as important as the other 3.

Still, I think we're overlooking the obvious a bit. Just cause Nintendo doesn't say something is false, it doesn't necessarily make it true. However, all evidence points to it being true. Just as Nintendo hasn't confirmed that in Twilight Princess... the whole time Mayor Bo was the mind behind Ganondorf. Nintendo hasn't said that this is false, because there is no need to say it. It is inferred. Just like the 3 pieces of the triforce.

Actually, Farore's name is split up between Faron and Ordana. Probably due to the design of the game, they needed 4 light spirits, and decided to split up Farore's name into two provinces. I suppose, in story, the two provinces could have originally been one, hence them being both taken from the same name. I dunno.

[FalseDestiny]

I had talked to someone about this and their theory was that the fourth piece could be unity
But this is still only someone else's thoughts but this does make some since the other thing that they used to help argue their point was that the Triforce would still be the Triforce because it is a triangle and that the pieces have Triforce in their name yet they are complete themselves and that in LoZ Zelda had broken the two pieces of the Triforce into eight equal pieces making four pieces to a triangle (since there were only the Triforce of Power and the Triforce of Wisdom)

[Alter]

Dare I say GANNON-BANNED!! per rule #7, Claiming there is a Fourth Triforce Piece in the official series

THERE IS NO FOURTH PIECE! THAT RUMOR WAS STARTED BY PEOPLE WHO REALIZED IN AoL "Ohhh... THEY"RE ADDING MORE AND MORE PIECES. LET'S ADD SOME MORE OURSELVES SO NINTENDO WILL DO WHAT WE SAY! STOP IT NOW!!!!!!!>:(

ROFLOL Ok, I feel better now. I highly doubt that there is a fourth piece, but it is an interesting idea. I think that it would have been revealed by now if there was one, AND it's called a Triforce. For those of you who don't have a brain, Tri means "three. Triangle, Trilateral, Trident, etc. There is some solidity to the idea that when all three come together, it forms an extremely powerful force, though. In fact, that has been shown to be true in both the mangas and the Valiant comics. Also, it's been hinted at in OoT, the Oracle games, etc.

There is no doubt the they become more powerful when together- just that they form a fourth piece.


Actually, Farore's name is split up between Faron and Ordana. Probably due to the design of the game, they needed 4 light spirits, and decided to split up Farore's name into two provinces. I suppose, in story, the two provinces could have originally been one, hence them being both taken from the same name. I dunno.

I'd never thought of that. I like the idea- it seems to be valid. It makes perfect sense, but it's still a speculation. Hmm... I think I'll go off into a dark, scary room and evaluate this thought...

[FalseDestiny]

Jeez you don't have to explode. Theories are just theories until proven true or false. there is no need to get heated on a conversation of "possibilities". Its not like we're claiming everything that has been said to be true. We are just trying to cover all the bases.

[Mike Pothier]

Actually, theories are usually mocked and ridiculed unless there's actual evidence to back it up.

[FalseDestiny]

that is only sometimes true.
Example: the big bang theory
not many people mock this theory but not everyone chooses to believe it. That is why it is a theory, not the factual truth because there isn't enough evidence to prove it right or wrong

[Mike Pothier]

Actually, there's quite a bit of evidence that the universe started from one single point in space.

[Alter]

I don't care how crazy people's theories are, just so long as they can back up. I was mostly joking. My guess is that the triangle is there to either 1) represent the Triforce as a whole, or 2) is just there as a decoration.

I seriously doubt that they would wait this long to mention a fourth piece. The only possibility I can think of is if they all merged.

[FalseDestiny]

I understand that but I was just throwing in some possibilities that people think about. and where is this evidence that the universe started in one point because I would love to see it.
As for what I believe, there is no fourth piece and that it is only decoration because it is no longer on the Hylian shield. But don't mark me as a person who doesn't believe that there is the possibility of a fourth piece.

[Mike Pothier]

I'm not going to do your research for you. I suggest you do a few google searches or hit your local library, bandage up your hand and walk inside to read.

I will say, though, that its a generally accepted fact that the universe is expanding, and from a certain area where it seems very likely that all matter was once packed together densely.

[FalseDestiny]

That information has been known for a while but that doesn't have anything to do with its beginning. That deals with white and blak holes. Still, it is a theory that hasn't been proven.
But I have nothing to do with your beliefs nor do I want to get involved.

[Mike Pothier]

That information has been known for a while but that doesn't have anything to do with its beginning. That deals with white and blak holes.

Huh? Expansion of the universe has little to do with black holes. What in the world are you talking about?


Still, it is a theory that hasn't been proven.

Technically, so is gravity.

I hope you are aware that in science, theory does not equal no proof. Theory means, there is proof, and this is how we currently view the model. If there was no evidence, it wouldn't even be considered a theory.


But I have nothing to do with your beliefs nor do I want to get involved.

Uh, ok. Well, I guess we're technically off topic, so we can end this here. I wasn't trying to destroy your beliefs, just inform you of the currently held scientific models.

[FalseDestiny]

To answer about the black and white holes. A black hole devours matter while white holes spit matter back out into the universe, dealing with Newtons third law of action and reaction. so I was mainly referring to the white hoes rather than the black holes.
That is what I was getting at.
And I am able to take criticism so the information that you are supplying is always accepted. So feel free to discuss anything with me you feel like. Thanks anyway.

[Kaynil]

Okay, I'll share a personal belief about it.

http://zelda.neoseeker.com/uploads/zelda/hylian_shield_mini.jpg

The first thing I noticed was that the 'piece' was upside down and so, it could fit inside the 'Triforce'.

During one cutscene, someone explains Link that you need to have a balance heart or else the person just get one piece of it. I don't remeber the exact quote know, but I think this is the relevant part of it.

Basically for me that piece represents the balance heart. If any of its side was bigger then there wouldn't be a way to put inside without separating the other pieces.

So yeah, I thought it was just a way to put that belief in another way.

[Axle the Beast]

I noticed a lot of people in this thread have misinterpreted this as a "quadforce" thread, whereas that's not what it is at all. It's simply here to discuss what that extra triangle or the symbol in general means, quadforce or otherwise.

Anyway...

I suppose it is a little odd. I would normally just go ahead and say it's there for decoration, but there's a couple odd aspects to it. Mainly then it fits in with the others, and that there's the bird pulling it, but I really don't know what it would mean, other than perhaps being symbolic of the game's events or story.

[Skull_Kid]

Theory and Hylian Shield

The Hylian Shield from Ocarina of Time with the Fourth Piece circledTetraforce is a name given to the Triforce by people that believe that the Triforce has four pieces instead of three. Belief in the Tetraforce's existence was sparked by people who noticed on Link's Hylian Shield the pedestal on which the bird is standing on as a fourth triangle and jumped to the conclusion that it was a fourth piece of the Triforce that had been separated from the others, hence the name 'Tetraforce'. Some say the bird on the shield is carrying the 4th piece to the rest of the Triforce. Some note that in the final scene that she's portrayed as Shiek in Ocarina of Time, Zelda did say something along the lines of getting the "True Force" if he or she had equal Power, Wisdom and Courage. The "True Force to Govern All", however, is used time and time again when referring to the complete Triforce, which consists of just three pieces. In later redesigns of the Hylian Shield (Like the one in Twilight Princess or the Hero's Shield in Majora's Mask) the possible fourth piece is missing.

Naming
Possibly though, "Tetraforce" is not a correct name for the holy triangle if there was a fourth piece. In the very first The Legend of Zelda, there were only two pieces of the Triforce, the third one not being introduced until The Adventure of Link. It is unlikely that Nintendo was already planning the story of The Adventure of Link before they knew how the first game would do, especially since it came out in a time when the video game industry was still recovering from its near destruction a few years earlier. If so, "Triforce" refers to the triangle-shape and not the number of pieces of the (since The Adventure of Link) whole thing, in which case the Triforce stays the Triforce no matter the number of pieces.

A Fourth Goddess
The known legend in the history is that the Triforce was created in the beginning by three goddesses which leaves no presence of a fourth goddess that created the supposed fourth piece. Note that there are more gods mentioned throughout the series though, but they are never connected to the three who created the Triforce.

Goddess of Time
This theory is widely regarded as being foolish, though there are still some people in the community that support it. It is speculated by some that the missing "piece" represents time, and some supporters have used Princess Zelda's mention of a Goddess of Time in Majora's Mask as evidence. However, detractors point out that there's also some evidence to suggest that Nayru and a goddess of time are the same being. The Goddess of Time may be Farore, however, as Ciela states that she is the spirit of courage and of time, though no mention of the three goddesses is made in Phantom Hourglass.

Sand Goddess
Other theorists claim the "Sand Goddess" represented by the Desert Colossus could be viewed as evidence for a fourth piece. This Goddess would explain the existence of the Gerudo, as while Farore created life to uphold Nayru's law, this supposedly Evil Goddess may have created life that would break the law and as a result she could have been banished along with her piece of the Triforce.

Zelda
Some people believe that Princess Zelda is the 4th goddess, and represents the fourth piece of the Tetraforce, hence her pirate reincarnation name, Tetra (from The Wind Waker) which is Greek for the word "four" (although this most likely has to do with the fish species tetra and not the Tetraforce). There is a symbolic cut scene from The Wind Waker, when Tetra's necklace piece unites with a small triangle given to her from the King. This could be seen as a visual metaphor of Zelda owning the fourth piece of the Tetraforce and having the ability to unite it. Unfortunately for these believers, Link also came across the instance of needing to combine his Triforce of Courage thus proving that it is unnecessary to possess the fabled 4th piece to combine the shard of a piece of the Triforce.

Another possibility is that the fourth inner piece represents hope; this theory comes from the Oracle games. Since there is the oracles of seasons, ages, and secrets each corresponding to a piece of the Triforce (seasons=power,ages=wisdom, and secrets=courage) and eventually Princess Zelda comes along claiming to be the oracle of hope, possibly meaning that she is corresponding to the fourth piece of the Tetraforce. It is also possible that Zelda had actually always been a goddess of hope sent to Hyrule to be continuously reborn as the Princess of Hyrule.

Kindness
The fourth piece could represent "Kindness", as Majora's Mask featured four Great Fairies in the four directions, called the Great Fairy of Courage, the Great Fairy of Wisdom and the Great Fairy of Power. The fourth one was called the the Great Fairy of Kindness. However, these Great Fairies represent the qualities of the Four Giants, so it is unknown if there actually is a verified connection.

Light Spirits
In Twilight Princess there are four Light Spirits (Eldin, Faron, Lanayru and Ordona) each representing their own province and three of them represent a Goddess Eldin represents Din, Lanayru represents Nayru and Faron represents Farore. The fourth spirit, Ordona also represents Farore. When talking to Lanayru, it says "We three spirits were ordered by the Goddesses to seal away the evil power," which is implying that either

Ordona was not present at the time of the incident.
Ordon and Ordona are not considered as part of Hyrule, as mentioned later in the game by Shad, who says "I hear he's not from Hyrule proper at all" .
The creators have made it clear that Ordona is supposed to represent the second half of Farore's name

Shadow
The most little thought fourth goddess may be Twinrova as she raised ganon in the OoT, but unlikely because she doesn't have any true god powers.

Fierce Diety
It is believed that when one has the complete Tetraforce, it is impossible to control its power. People use Fierce Deity Link from Majora's Mask as an example. It is believed that in a past incarnation in the Zelda timeline, Link had found the complete Tetraforce and became immortal. He could not control his power, and he caused much destruction, so the Goddesses created the Song of Healing, which was used to seal the Fierce Deity inside a mask. It is thought that Fierce Deity Link may have been evil in the past since the child wearing Majora's Mask on the Moon tells you that you will be playing the bad guy when he hands you the Fierce Deity's Mask. Also, if one looks at the Fierce Deity's armor, there is a triangle on the armor over his left pectoral muscle, this could possibly represent a fourth piece, or perhaps it shows the triforce compleated with a fourth triangle for the center hole.

Triforce of Termina
Skull Kid is shortly seen above what seems to be the Terminan version of the Triforce. It is possible that this may have something to do with the Tetraforce. The Stone Tower's carvings make this very likely.

Light Force
Some timeline theories may argue that the Light Force from The Minish Cap, is the completed Tetraforce. This is possible if The Minish Cap takes place before all other Zelda games, and some unknown event after The Minish Cap and before Ocarina of Time causes the middle piece of the Tetraforce to unbind itself and become lost. The Triforce could have earned its name, representing an incomplete Light Force, or otherwise Tetraforce. Another possible theory is that at the end of The Minish Cap, Vaati states that when he tried to absorb the Light Force from Princess Zelda, he could not absorb all of it. This could mean that the portion of Light Force he did not obtain became the "normal" Triforce. This portion of the theory does not hold very well, considering the properties of the Light Force do not match those of the Trifoce and the many Triforce crests scattered throughout Hyrule in the game. However, it could be argued that the properties of the Triforce could change once the missing fourth piece is united with it.

Triforce of Shadow
There is a theory that the dark space in the middle of the triforce is a supposed "Triforce of Shadow". Though there is not much evidence that there is a Triforce (or tetraforce) of shadow. It also helps prove Dark Link's creation.

The Great Force
According to unused text in the game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Link would make a cameo at Starbeans Café the first time the player selected to drink the Teeheespresso. The Triforce would also, somehow, be collected in the game and could be given to Link in exhange for the Greatforce ho was likely the fourth piece OR the completed Triforce.. This was, however, changed, presumably to avoid confusion as they has declined it on several occasions (see below).

Officially
Despite all this, Nintendo and Shigeru have vehemently denied it on multiple occasions. The fourth Triangle was removed from later redesigns of the Hylian Shield and also from the Hero's Shield from The Wind Waker and Majora's Mask. Officially, the Tetraforce does not exist and it should be considered fan speculation.


-Taken from www.ZeldaWiki.org

Shall i repeat it again until the end of time, or until people accept it?

Fortunately, they removed it, after OOT

[Legendary Chaos]

I dont think it really means anything, i think they just put that there for design.

[HeroofAges]

I think that the fourth triangle was simple design element and the designer simply didn't think of how it would look to fans... just look at the fact that not once other games is a forth piece shown or referenced. If there was a supposed fourth Triforce segment it should be pictured somewhere other then on a single shield in one game. And of course the fact that it was removed from subsequent games....
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ipO8JgFWhAKy4M:http://media.strategywiki.org/images/0/04/OOT_hylianshield.jpg OoT
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:YctZX5xrk_U2CM:http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/7/7a/Hylianshield.png/100px-Hylianshield.png TP
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:DSMFMffuxoI4fM:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/ALttP/Shield-ALttP-Fighters.gif LttP
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:yqNOX1jMS6eWlM:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/ALttP/Shield-TWW-Heros.jpg WW
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:UX5LRORsith1jM:http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/4/43/Shield.jpg LA actually has TWO extra pieces

this link shows all the shield design variences...http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.blogcdn.com/nintendo.joystiq.com/media/2007/06/zelda-shield-4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2007/06/08/the-shields-of-zelda/2&usg=__ioI01izrOH09KIaeQAm1nMa-a94=&h=173&w=425&sz=25&hl=en&start=13&sig2=SVZHfHcn8NEABo1pXmRnkQ&um=1&tbnid=U3BU3wlkx93IFM:&tbnh=51&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3DOracle%2Bof%2B%2BSeasons%2Bshield%26h l%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1B3GGIC_en___US307%26s a%3DG%26um%3D1&ei=gd8rStCyKYr2NcrXwNsJ

And remember the Master sword and other items have gone through many design changes as well.

[Lonewolf92]

Ok. you do know that Tri means three right? and its full name is the triforce triangle. what you are talking about would be a weird thing like the, oh, i dont know, quadforce quadrilateral or something like that. there is no forth peice to the triforce.

[Zemen]

Ok. you do know that Tri means three right? and its full name is the triforce triangle. what you are talking about would be a weird thing like the, oh, i dont know, quadforce quadrilateral or something like that. there is no forth peice to the triforce.

While I agree that there is no fourth piece, I would like to see some in game proof of the Triforce being called "The Triforce Triangle." because I don't ever recall seeing that.

[Skull_Kid]

While I agree that there is no fourth piece, I would like to see some in game proof of the Triforce being called "The Triforce Triangle." because I don't ever recall seeing that.

The Triforce is always called either: Triforce, Golden Power(in ALttP), Sacred Triangles(in LoZ and AoL's manuals, if I am not mistaken.) but never, ever called Triforce triangle

[Hayzer]

Actually, there's quite a bit of evidence that the universe started from one single point in space.

While there's evidence for the Big Bang, there's more against it, but we won't get into that now will we? ;)

Not to mention that when things spin they go outward not inward which is what scientists seem to be missing. :D

But, back on topic,

I'll admit it's a cool idea for there to be a "Tetraforce," but until it's canonized, it's false. Decoration or not, it's almost pointless to argue about it.

[Zemen]

The Triforce is always called either: Triforce, Golden Power(in ALttP), Sacred Triangles(in LoZ and AoL's manuals, if I am not mistaken.) but never, ever called Triforce triangle

Haha, exactly. Thanks for posting the names, SK.

The bottom line is this, my friends. I don't believe there is a fourth piece (right now, anyway). The Triforce has never been given a name that implies that there can only be 3 pieces, however. It seems that it has been left open if they ever wanted to add a fourth piece, but as Hayzer has put it, until it is put into a game or until it has been confirmed by the creators, it is false.

Just for kicks though, The only name that implies that there may only be 3 pieces is the name Triforce, but that could also just refer to the fact that the Triforce is a triangle and not that it is made of 3 pieces. Still, I don't believe there is a fourth piece.

[Master Kokiri 9]

My theory is that the 'fourth piece' is not part of the triforce (otherwise it would be the quadforce) but the light force from minish cap