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LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:06 AM
What if Gannondorf defeated link in OoT?:confused:
Hyrul would be new Hell, and an anti-hero, oh say the lost son of Gannondorf, takes a shot at what link started.:)

blackice_cc
09-29-2008, 10:11 AM
You know what I'm thinking LoZfan? You should make a Zelda fan-fic, you seem to have a bunch of ideas that would work.

Anyways, if he had defeated Link, no doubt another hero would rise to take his place, and inherit the Triforce of Courage. But maybe Link couldn't have lost anyways, because he was chosen by the gods to defeat Ganondorf. Whatever, it couldn't happen in the game, because you just get to re-try it.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:13 AM
I actually started a fanfic for this Idea, Link is defeated and his soul was ripped outmhis body and put into a greatsword and then shattered and scattered, meanwhile one of gannons harlots is about to give birth to" the prince of darkness"

Princess Zelda and the Sages( Saria, Darunia, ect) save the harlot and the future anti-hero Geideth. I'll eventually put Geideth's pic and bio on here so you guys can see

PurpleDragon
09-29-2008, 10:42 AM
i would flip out and start sending boxes full of hate mail to nintendo if link lost. Sounds like a good story though :)

James
09-29-2008, 10:47 AM
This would be good, Link wins too much, Triforce of no Triforce he shouldn't be invincible, and the only losses shouldn't be when you get a game over. Make him lose it'd be interesting and could set up for a PROPER sequel.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:47 AM
I'm still actually writing the fan fic

James
09-29-2008, 10:48 AM
yeah, I was just speculating that it would be good in an actual game as well.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:50 AM
yes it would, but how the **** do you make a old cartridge game?

James
09-29-2008, 10:51 AM
I meant for nintendo to make it >_>

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:52 AM
I dunno nintendo wouldn't like me to kill off their best hero indicicivly

James
09-29-2008, 10:53 AM
You're getting me wrong, I'm just saying it would have been good/would be good if Nintendo decided to make Link lose for a change, not kill him off.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 10:55 AM
oh, well in a way in my fan fic, Link's body and soul a separated, so technicly, link isn't dead, rather his soul is sealed in a greatsword which was shattered by gannondorf to ensure that link or any other HEROS couldn't stand up to him

James
09-29-2008, 10:58 AM
Lol, sounds like it could be good.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Geideth would grow up to use greatswords since gannondorf is like 2 foot taller than link is, and will be raised by the Sages, eventually, Geideth will embark on his own adventure by collecting the Greatsword peices

PurpleDragon
09-29-2008, 11:10 AM
maybe if link lost aggenst ganon in the beggining of a game, then ganon attempts to kill link, but someone saves him but he loses his equipment and Memory, and has to go on an adventure to get it back before ganon destroys hyrule.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 11:12 AM
I like my "Gannon ripping link soul out and sealing in a all powerful greatsword" idea but hay that's a good idea too I might work that imto my fan fic

PurpleDragon
09-29-2008, 11:19 AM
awesome, i cant wait to read this fanfic when its done.

LoZfan
09-29-2008, 11:21 AM
as soon as I find where the Hell it is at my house and when I get the Damn thing wrote. I let u guy's know when it's done, i'll give ya the site, k

Mercedes
09-29-2008, 02:42 PM
Whatever, it couldn't happen in the game, because you just get to re-try it.

"Link has died. Nice going, Ganondorf rules the world now. Go buy Halo you fanboy/girl."

....

Yeah, doesn't have the same feeling as re-trying the game eh? :p

Josh
09-29-2008, 05:02 PM
The thought has crossed my mind a few times, and I can't say I hate the idea of it. Surely I don't think that OoT would be as popular as it is today, but it sure would set up some other game.

Petman1325
09-29-2008, 06:41 PM
I actually started a fanfic for this Idea, Link is defeated and his soul was ripped outmhis body and put into a greatsword and then shattered and scattered, meanwhile one of gannons harlots is about to give birth to" the prince of darkness"

Princess Zelda and the Sages( Saria, Darunia, ect) save the harlot and the future anti-hero Geideth. I'll eventually put Geideth's pic and bio on here so you guys can see
I have actually been working on a fan-fic in which it explains the seven years between when Link pulled out the Master Sword and when he awakened as the Hero of Time.:wave:
It gets a little tragic and graphic, with Ganondorf literally slaughtering the sages protecting the Triforce, with only Raru still living. Then he tortures the other races of Hyrule.:cry:
I try to keep it PG-13, yet I get to the point where it can be R, yet I want it to be PG-13. Hello, I'm 13 going on 14, and maybe it is time to think a little more graphic (Sound of Music reference deliberate.):nerd:

Kybyrian
09-29-2008, 09:51 PM
Well let's look at it this way. If Ganondorf would have beaten Link in Ocarina of Time, then Hyrule would pretty much be hell on Earth.

Plus, Majora's Mask wouldn't have ever occured, and according to some timelines, Twilight Princess as well.

MajoraKing12
09-29-2008, 10:21 PM
First off why didn't Link die in any before OoT? And everthing else in Hyrule would be dead!!!

Karashimu
09-29-2008, 10:26 PM
This is what would happen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10abqD25F0).

Ventriloquist
09-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Link, Zelda and Gannon are all bound to the triforce. Whilst Zelda and Gannon live, you'd assume that the spirit of Link would just re-appear in some new body. We all just like to call the new adventurers Link, when really, they're called whatever you want to name them, they just inherit the spirit of Link and the green-garbedness.

Twili123prince
09-30-2008, 07:10 PM
Okay, Well this would happen Ganon would take zelda and links triforce and have world domination, But Nintendo wouldn't do that And if they did they would have to bring him back in another game but there would have to be another hero in order to do that, maybe the creators of zelda will do that in the future.

Kat :3
10-01-2008, 07:58 AM
Twili123prince is right, Ganon would take the other pieces of triforce and dominate over the world.

I never actually thought what would happen if ganondorf killed Link ._. Scary thoughts. Well I have written quite a few LoZ fanfics, I like the idea of killing Link :3. Killing off Link isn't the first thing Nintendo would do.
I say if they did then Zelda would be the next hero or all the races and tribes would get together and kill Ganondorf under Zelda's command. All the soldiers, the Zoras, Kokiri, Gorons, Gerudos, ect. I'm sure after a massive battle and only few survivours Zelda sacrificed, they avenged Link. And before I know I am on my way to writing another fanfic >_>;
Well, post it as you go, caio :3

LoZfan
10-01-2008, 02:13 PM
the point being, yeah Gannon would have all peices fo the triforce and completely rais hell on hyrule ( and the rest of the world) but after so long there would be hope to bring hyrule to where it once was....wouldn't there?

wait if he has all triforce peices, he could make another wish coudn't he?????

Look at it this way, in my fanfic, Gannondorf summons a forbiddon, a reaper that specilizes in takeing souls( like most reapers) but instead of just collecting souls, this reaper will seal link's soul in a ALL POWERFUL GREATSWORD, then gannondorf will break said greatsword so that the hero is gone, that leaves links body, the reaper then inhabits the body and becomes DARKLINK, meanwhile one of his harlots is waiting in the master chamber, nine monthes later the harlot is pregnate with the new hero( Geideth), Gannondorf fears that his child will be as evil as he is and overthrow him...if he hadn't wished for immortality, however, i decided that the immortality take a ****ing long time to take full effect, meaning by now Gannondorf could not have a heart attack, well rather have one ane not die

chrisbg99
10-06-2008, 10:51 AM
With his life's goal completed he would retire from super villain work and become a tax auditor.

LoZfan
10-06-2008, 10:57 AM
**** no, he'd tourture the other races until geideth comes intop the picture the sages save the harlot with her unborn child and dies while giving birth to the new hero

chrisbg99
10-06-2008, 10:59 AM
**** no, he'd tourture the other races until geideth comes intop the picture the sages save the harlot with her unborn child and dies while giving birth to the new hero

So you are agreeing with me that he would become a tax auditor?

LoZfan
10-06-2008, 11:04 AM
HELL NO geideth 'll comeminto the picture, collect the sword of diety peices and revive Link so that gannondorf'll finnaly DIE!!! **** now I just gave away the whole GODDAMN story

MrMosley
10-07-2008, 12:06 AM
It would definitely make a nice twist to things, not just if Ganon defeated Link in OoT, but in a new game. However, there would have to be some sort of resolution to the game that the good guys won, just because I wouldn't see Nintendo making the bad guys win in one of their games, especially after you go through so much, just to lose....I would think a lot of people would have been rather disappointed..

But storyline wise, in a way what happend in Wind Waker's opening scene is kinda what I think would have happend anyway if Link had lost. There wouldn't have been a Majora's Mask sequel, cause well, Link would be dead. But thats another world, another story, no one in Hyrule really cares about the place.... But yeah I think Ganon would have continued his reign over Hyrule, its inhabitants would have prayed to the Gods after so long and, they would have flooded the place...

LoZfan
10-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Nice point. however you would have to look at the Geideth charactor i designed,
http://neoshadownecromancer.deviantart.com/art/Geideth-71802092

I generally i thought that gannondorf would do one of his harlots and nine months later said harlot will be ready to give birth to the new hero Geideth

Kybyrian
10-13-2008, 10:46 PM
Guys, let's take this seriously, please. I mean seriously, a tax auditor? >_>

Also, what I forgot to mention before. Wind Waker wouldn't exist either.

LoZfan
10-14-2008, 07:53 AM
yeah. but we're not talking about Majora's mask, windwaker, or Twilight Princess. This is a fan fic I'm writing and i based it OoT timeline (If one could call it a timeline) because that's the game im playing currently....

elementskater995
10-30-2008, 05:33 PM
If link got killed...life would suck 4 everyone in hyrle :lol: i really dont know... It would be cool if they made a game like that..where everything is in ruins

Chris
11-12-2008, 09:39 PM
That is kind of a stupid question because it would never happen. BUT, if it did happen, there would be no one to stop Ganondorf. The Royal Army would try to stop them but would be hopelessly defeated. Ganondorf may or may not kill Zelda, but if he doesn't, he would probably torcher her.

Alder Dragon
11-13-2008, 08:15 PM
Then wouldn't that neccessarily mean that you never get a fight with Ganon? Imagine that, beating the entire game, getting up to Ganon completely prepared, you climb up the stares and enter the room and a cutscene begins. Ganondorf kills link, then the credits roll. That would be a horrible way to end a game.

Claire
11-16-2008, 03:51 PM
First, this reminds me of the 'Should Link Die?' topic, but anyhow...

If Ganondorf defeated Link, then I'd assume that would be the fall of the Legend of Zelda series, since in the games it is said if the hero fails - the world will no longer be able to be saved from the dark reign. If there is no hero, and no way even go on adventure since it wouldn't be worth it if there isn't any way to fix the problem - then I'd assume that would be the official end of the Legend of Zelda games.

Kitsu
11-16-2008, 04:02 PM
First, this reminds me of the 'Should Link Die?' topic, but anyhow...

If Ganondorf defeated Link, then I'd assume that would be the fall of the Legend of Zelda series, since in the games it is said if the hero fails - the world will no longer be able to be saved from the dark reign. If there is no hero, and no way even go on adventure since it wouldn't be worth it if there isn't any way to fix the problem - then I'd assume that would be the official end of the Legend of Zelda games.

That's probably true, but if I was to take it further, then I might assume that in the Darkness of the world Ganon would of created, there would be a possibility that another hero would take over. Maybe not for a long time, but perhaps.

The Master Sword he will then retrieve,
Keeping the Knight's line true.

-Pedestal of time

So, I think there could be a possibility of an "consequent" hero. Or, a hero existing because of one falling.
"Keeping the Knight's true". I would assume that would mean that a hero would always rise up to succeed their predecessors.

Legendary Chaos
11-23-2008, 09:01 AM
If Link had lost to Ganondorf, probably Zelda would play the ocarina of time and go back to when Link still hadn't tried to defeat Ganondorf.

Dirty Link
12-07-2009, 02:08 AM
it would have been cool to see. Link is 14-0 or something. Lets go even just having him die at the end by hyrule being saved would be better. But interestingly enough on the first page it was mentioned that Hyrule would be the new hell or something of that affect. The shadow temple has always struck me as a gateway to hell. There are a lot of creatures such as redeads and stalfos who in all likely hood originate from the shadow temple. Also both enemies are in Ganons castle. I think if ganon had won, the evil of the shadow temple would have returned to what it once was.
It looks like it was a torture area, which would allow ganon to imprison any rebels.

zc16-rmeppelink
12-07-2009, 03:51 PM
i tink that it would be halarus if link died then came back to life as a ghost link

badmuffins
12-07-2009, 04:11 PM
I would never buy any Nintendo product again. EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombi Link
12-08-2009, 02:59 AM
it'd be quite interesting. i'd like to see the idea played out somewhere.

rnddim
12-09-2009, 01:03 AM
You would get a game over :P

Seriously, it would probably continue on the same path to doom it has been for the last seven years.

(think about this: Ganondorf had seven years to plan for the probable return of Link. Seven years, and he ultimately fails)

Bluelink6
12-09-2009, 11:40 AM
If link got killed...life would suck 4 everyone in hyrle :lol: i really dont know... It would be cool if they made a game like that..where everything is in ruins

You mean life for hyrulians didn't already suck with Ganondorf the evil king?

Avilink777
12-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Some timeline's suggest that MM continues into TP, and not into WW, But in the beginning of WW it says the hero rode into the forest (lost woods) and never returned, which is what happened in MM.Then ganondorf came back, and the people prayed to the gods for the hero to return but never did...so basically hyrule was in hell, then was flooded in the process.Something must have happened before Tp which caused a split in the timeline... But still the world was in hell for some time...:ganondorf:

Though in Alttp there was the dark world which was kinda hyrule in hell...

CZG
12-27-2009, 11:26 AM
They would have made another CD-i game, where Zelda can save Hyrule from doom by bringing another Link from the Past to that era of time.

Yuck!

Starchain1
02-21-2010, 06:23 PM
Well id say a hell on earth becuase the current status of the place will just be getting worse and worse and worse

Alex_Da_Great
02-24-2010, 12:25 AM
If gannondorf defeated link, then the whole place would be filled with redeads! But there is one hope to save the world from him...

Dark Link! :lol:

yann
02-24-2010, 10:26 AM
You know what I'm thinking LoZfan? You should make a Zelda fan-fic, you seem to have a bunch of ideas that would work.

Anyways, if he had defeated Link, no doubt another hero would rise to take his place, and inherit the Triforce of Courage. But maybe Link couldn't have lost anyways, because he was chosen by the gods to defeat Ganondorf. Whatever, it couldn't happen in the game, because you just get to re-try it.

If Ganondorf had defeated Link and had Zelda imprisoned, could he not have just taken the Triforce pieces by force anyway? In which case, he rule Hrule and the Sacred Realm indefinately without there being a hope of saving it.

athenian200
02-25-2010, 08:51 AM
Let's see... I imagine all the Temples would eventually be corrupted again, and all of Link's work would be undone. Here's the scenario I imagine:

1. The Deku Tree Sprout dies, all the monsters come back, and all the Kokiri continue to live in fear of the monsters outside.

2. Kakariko Village eventually becomes like Hyrule Castle Town, in shambles and with ReDead walking around (considering the proximity to the Shadow Temple and the Graveyard, I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier).

3. Zora's Domain... just stays frozen, I guess.

4. Hyrule Castle Town doesn't change.

5. Lon Lon Ranch is eventually given to a minion of Ganon to run as a stable, while Ingo, Talon, and Malon are kicked out.

6. Volvagia is revived again, and all the Gorons are fed to it. Goron City is flooded with lava to make sure, this time.

7. Lake Hylia would dry up completely, and eventually the Fisherman and Lab Scientist might die of dehydration.

8. Gerudo Desert would likely remain the same, with the Gerudo submitting to him, as Ganondorf is of their race.

So, pretty much... every race in Hyrule except for the Gerudo would probably be eliminated. The Kokiri might survive in the forest despite the monsters, and a few Hylian stragglers might live as armed, ragged vagabonds sneaking around Hyrule Field to elude Ganon's armies. Only the Gerudo would have anything resembling a comfortable existence, but even that would be somewhat tainted by them competing for Ganon's approval and turning on each other occasionally.

Several years into this, the Gerudo might become an established power rather than a group of thieves, and Hylians would be known as bands of thieves due to generations of living as vagabonds.