Should Link Die?

[MajoraKing12]

In one of the future legend of zelda's should link die for good?I say if that does happened Shadow link should take over link's job and insted fighting the bad he and gandorf try to take over the good but princess zelda killed them all by useing the power of link's body.Or something like that.(And what I mean by power tape swords to him and then throw it at them)(LOL)

[small link]

but.... shadow link is called shadow link because he is like link....but he's evil... I don't know but I don't want link to die!!!

[El Bagu]

I do not think he should die. No! But a different antagonist should work fine. I do not want to see Ganon in the next Zelda. Want something different!

[Josh]

Well. We could still have the Link dies but comes back to life scenario.

I don't quite know whether I would want him to die or not. It would bring something newer, more exciting I guess. But then again, that would cause probably a lot of people to pissed off that he did. I can't really say.

[chrisbg99]

Considering there have been several Links I'm not sure what the point is.

[Josh]

Well not literally like everybody else on here takes it (such as yourself). Like Die in actual game, like die in Ocarina of Time. Like just kill off the character, not replace him in the next game with another Link.

[blackice_cc]

That would totally change the Zelda series, and I think it would be for the bad. Replacing our green clad hero, Link? I ask you, what could be worse for the Zelda series than that? It would just ruin it for me, more than Link being able to talk. What would Zelda be like with no Link? I think that he's a perfect hero for the series, and I highly doubt Nintendo would do something like this. It would just scare too many fans away.

[Mike Pothier]

Ehhhhhh, not seeing it. Link is too iconic, and even if they were to kill him, they would bring him back to life.

I mean, how long did Superman stay dead? Five minutes?

[linkman8]

Mike Pothier makes a good point. Link is very iconic, and he makes Nintendo too much money to die. :)
On top of that, if he died, then the games may cease to be made, which is bad for us fans.

[Twili123prince]

Link should not die, people already love link too much. But if he did die he would probably come back in another game like josh said..

[Onilink89]

Mike Pothier makes a good point. Link is very iconic, and he makes Nintendo too much money to die. :)
On top of that, if he died, then the games may cease to be made, which is bad for us fans.

maybe or maybe not, lets say link dies, a other link will takes his place.
there will be always a reincarnation of link :)
buts lets face it, why would link die?

[Josh]

Ganon finally kills him, something else kills him, many possible scenarios.

Unless you're talking about Shiggy, then I don't really have a response.

[Y2K3]

I'd hate for Link to die in a game. I was iffy enough on the Wolf Link, and while I learned to like that, death wouldn't be good at all in my books.

[Mercedes]

He shouldn't die! Maybe just go away from Hyrule

THAT WAY Nintendo can bring him back whenever they want. ^^

[Josh]

Meh. We already did that. We need something new!

But I guess people just love Link more. When Ganon dies, we're happy. When Link would die, we're not. D:

[Onilink89]

Meh. We already did that. We need something new!

But I guess people just love Link more. When Ganon dies, we're happy. When Link would die, we're not. D:


no no no, ganon is cool, i don 't want him to die either.
well he doesn 't die easly, every time he comes back.
anyway, i don 't want link to die, or ganon to die... and zelda... well she can die :lol:

[blackice_cc]

no no no, ganon is cool, i don 't want him to die either.
well he doesn 't die easly, every time he comes back.
anyway, i don 't want link to die, or ganon to die... and zelda... well she can die :lol:

Yeah, Ganon/dorf is a cool character, he shouldn't die. Unless of course he actually did die in LoZ. But I don't think Zelda should die either, I mean the series is called the Legend of Zelda. And, neither should Link, of course.

[Leix]

LINK CANNOT DIE.
HE IS THE ONE.

No but really, they can never ever have the holders of the triforce die. It simply dosen't work. Fanboy's minds would explode and fangirls would start a mob.

[Mike Pothier]

LINK CANNOT DIE.
HE IS THE ONE.

No but really, they can never ever have the holders of the triforce die. It simply dosen't work. Fanboy's minds would explode and fangirls would start a mob.

My god, you just gave me the image of Morpheus sitting in front of Link stating "You are the one, Link".

[Hylian Hobbit]

We need guns.... Lots of guns...

Anyway, I don't think Link should, or will die... ever. It would ruin everything. And then there would be mobs, suicides, and World War 3 all because of it.

[small link]

ok people time for some math class...

Link+Zelda+Ganon= GREAT ZELDA GAME!!! CHA! :clap:

so that means Great Zelda Game - Link (or zelda) = not so great game... (Majora's Mask is an exception to this law) So did you learn anything?

[Hylian Hobbit]

I think I get it... So: Link x pie = very good Zelda game. Because everyone loves Zelda, and everyone loves pie? Does that work?

[Wareya]

I'd expect that if link were to die, it would be a pretty major point in the game, and you would work through dungeons in the afterlife or something. Then he comes back, does stuff, defeats the antagonist (Who I hope is majora, they -REALLY- need to continue that one) and blah, world is safe, etc.

[ebuch]

Ohh... I would love it if Link died... It would have to work in a way that Link still saves the world, meaning he would have to die in order to save it. Give up his life for it or something. Otherwise the evil would still exist, and the story wouldn't be able to continue. That would be so awesome if he used all of his remaining powers of the goddesses in order to save the kingdom... Then like somehow, he is still there with them, in like a spiritual sense, like, you can feel his presence in the air or something. A part of him will always be there, since he used his powers to protect everything. I get hyped just thinking about it. It would be a stronger plot if it was Link's death, rather than another person in the story. Cause it would make the player feel as if all is lost since the Hero is gone, but yet, he is still watching over them. I don't know how else to say it, anybody else think that would be cool?

[Hylian Hobbit]

Well when you put it the way you did then, I have to agree with you. It would be pretty cool. But it would have to be done just right so that you get a good feeling that sticks with you after the game is finished. Now you got me all hyped from thinking about it. lol.

[Inflexus]

Link dying and then being resurrected would be pretty cool, I think.

But plotwise to kill off the "line of the hero" would be unwise. Too many complications, and it throws off allready inconsistant timeline stuff from Nintendo.

The idea might make for one game, but I could never see it for more than that.

[blackice_cc]

Link dying and then being resurrected would be pretty cool, I think.

But plotwise to kill off the "line of the hero" would be unwise. Too many complications, and it throws off allready inconsistant timeline stuff from Nintendo.

The idea might make for one game, but I could never see it for more than that.

Maybe Link would die, then the player would have to play as Zelda for a little to resurrect Link. Not very Zelda-ish, I know, but it would be neat.


Ohh... I would love it if Link died... It would have to work in a way that Link still saves the world, meaning he would have to die in order to save it. Give up his life for it or something. Otherwise the evil would still exist, and the story wouldn't be able to continue. That would be so awesome if he used all of his remaining powers of the goddesses in order to save the kingdom... Then like somehow, he is still there with them, in like a spiritual sense, like, you can feel his presence in the air or something. A part of him will always be there, since he used his powers to protect everything. I get hyped just thinking about it. It would be a stronger plot if it was Link's death, rather than another person in the story. Cause it would make the player feel as if all is lost since the Hero is gone, but yet, he is still watching over them. I don't know how else to say it, anybody else think that would be cool?

Now that would be an interesting way to end a game. It wouldn't be very bad for the series, because another Link could still be in a new game. I think it would be cool, and maybe be a little more realistic, which I think would fit the new Zelda game for Wii, because I think it's going to be a very realistic one. Except for the things like Link being able to fit a Ball and chain into his pocket of course :D.

[Josh]

I would love it. That sounds so awesome. Somehow he dies but Ganon still loses in the end, somehow. Or, he dies, you play as Zelda or someone else for a little bit, and then he comes back to life and kills Ganondorf. Both awesome in my mind.

[Kybyrian]

No, I don't think that link should die. Of course it wouldn't be too bad and I wouldn't be to against it. Like in Chrono Trigger they killed off the main character, Chrono, but got him to come back to life later in the game. But that's beside the point.

I think it would just be sort of stupid to get link killed off.

[MajoraKing12]

I do not think he should die. No! But a different antagonist should work fine. I do not want to see Ganon in the next Zelda. Want something different!

What if zelda dies or somthing like that.Or what if Hyrules dies and then your fight in space and if Gandorf dies you go back in time and and that never happened.:hmm:

[Wareya]

It would be awesome to have a non-Link major character in the 'official' series. :D Like, Link dies, then you pretty much control his cousin or something until you find a way to have the triforce of courage resurect Link. Then you get to control either character, or maybe just Link. That would be one the easiest, most Zelda-like way to kill off Link for part of the game.

[SilvaLink]

I think Link shouldn't die, but if he did they should make him come back is the next one, but more stronger!

[Chidori]

I'm going to be flamed and hated for posting this but here are my honest thoughts.

I'd be EXILERATED and OVERLY HAPPY if Link died. The only reason he became iconic was due to the fact that his first game was the real adventure and was amazing to play through for it's time but the thing everyone failed to realize was the fact that the character "Link" is a total ripoff Peter Pan and Robin Hood. Just look at him, he wears green, fights using a sword, has a bow and arrow, his hat is almost identical and the list goes on. Not to mention the clichè Zelda storyline with Link being a hero having to rescue a Princess from an Evil Monster, seriously, there are stacks of movies and books that already have that. The first Zelda game having that sort of story was ok but how many damn games can you do it again?.

Good god. You know what would be much better than Link fighting an Evil Monster to rescue a Princess? It would be playing as Biggoron and going on a quest to eat every single damn fanboy out there who worships/cosplays Link. I doubt it would happen due to the fact that Nintendo keep on making good games out of clichè storylines and Peter Pan characters that it has become very "iconic", but holy hell it'd make my day reading about it happening.

[Hizashi]

I think it would be interesting for there to be a game where Link does not play the protagonist for once. Nintendo have varied the antagonist several times throughout the series, Skull-Kid and Vaati for example. I don't like the idea that throughout the centuries that Hyrule exists, in whatever form it takes, that an incarnation of Link is alive at the right time, just as evil spurs up.

The closest we've ever got to some variation would most probably be Majora's Mask because at least Link changed forms that had unique skills and abilities. Twilight Princess would come second, but they only had Hylian to Wolf.

So, killing off Link? Hmm, no. But having him not appear at the right generation, perhaps.

[Mike Pothier]

I'm going to be flamed and hated for posting this but here are my honest thoughts.

I'd be EXILERATED and OVERLY HAPPY if Link died. The only reason he became iconic was due to the fact that his first game was the real adventure and was amazing to play through for it's time but the thing everyone failed to realize was the fact that the character "Link" is a total ripoff Peter Pan and Robin Hood. Just look at him, he wears green, fights using a sword, has a bow and arrow, his hat is almost identical and the list goes on. Not to mention the clichè Zelda storyline with Link being a hero having to rescure a Princess from an Evil Monster, seriously, there are stacks of movies and books that already have that. The first Zelda game having that sort of story was ok but how many damn games can you do it again?.

Good god. You know what would be much better than Link fighting an Evil Monster to rescue a Princess? It would be playing as Biggoron and going on a quest to eat every single damn fanboy out there who worships/cosplays Link. I doubt it would happen due to the fact that Nintendo keep on making good games out of clichè storylines and Peter Pan characters that it has become very "iconic", but holy hell it'd make my day reading about it happening.

I admit, you got cojones coming onto a Zelda board and saying that.

[Kybyrian]

I'm going to be flamed and hated for posting this but here are my honest thoughts.

I'd be EXILERATED and OVERLY HAPPY if Link died. The only reason he became iconic was due to the fact that his first game was the real adventure and was amazing to play through for it's time but the thing everyone failed to realize was the fact that the character "Link" is a total ripoff Peter Pan and Robin Hood. Just look at him, he wears green, fights using a sword, has a bow and arrow, his hat is almost identical and the list goes on. Not to mention the clichè Zelda storyline with Link being a hero having to rescue a Princess from an Evil Monster, seriously, there are stacks of movies and books that already have that. The first Zelda game having that sort of story was ok but how many damn games can you do it again?.

Good god. You know what would be much better than Link fighting an Evil Monster to rescue a Princess? It would be playing as Biggoron and going on a quest to eat every single damn fanboy out there who worships/cosplays Link. I doubt it would happen due to the fact that Nintendo keep on making good games out of clichè storylines and Peter Pan characters that it has become very "iconic", but holy hell it'd make my day reading about it happening.

The thing is, the makers just care as long as they're making money off him. If they see a person a ton of fans like then they keep going after it, for the sake of earning money. What has the world come to? :(

[Dexter]

well since theres a few different links, he could die in the end of a game in a cool way. then the next game will just be a different link...

[Chidori]

I understand. I pointed that out in the third paragraph of my post. I was just giving my honest opinion on this Topic. I'd just like to see a more original character and a more original, less clichè story.

[Josh]

The thing is, the makers just care as long as they're making money off him. If they see a person a ton of fans like then they keep going after it, for the sake of earning money. What has the world come to? :(

The world went and became an idiot. Simple as that.

And yes, as long they're making money off of him, they don't give a ****. They truly don't. And most of the rest of the world is happy with him, so he's staying for a long time to come.


Unless we have one of the scenarios above happen.

[Mike Pothier]

I understand. I pointed that out in the third paragraph of my post. I was just giving my honest opinion on this Topic. I'd just like to see a more original character and a more original, less clichè story.

Actually, considering the angst-ridden crybabies or gruff marines that pervade games today, I find Link to be a refreshing change of pace.

As for the story, well Nintendo has always put gameplay over stories. Granted, each Zelda has gotten more story heavy with each update, but they have their priorities straight. Honestly, I didn't see any crippling cliches in Twilight Princess.

[Chidori]

I just don't want to be playing as an Elf-... Well "Hylian" dressed in green baring a very strong resemblance to characters like Peter Pan. A new change of character would be nice. I want to see anything but going through temples and accomplishing anything but rescuing a Princess who doesn't even give special service as a reward. An example would be lets say... Playing as anyone but Link or at least not a character wearing green and wields a simple sword, instead of Temples you travel through Time Periods and explore each land in that period to find a different treasure or whatever in order to Seal an Evil Power rather than an Evil Monster. That is just an example of something different.

Twilight Princess had the "Farewell" cliche in it.

[Mike Pothier]

Then you're probably looking for any game that doesn't have the word "Zelda" in the title, since that has been the staple of the Zelda series since the first one.

Try the Elder Scrolls.

[Chidori]

I play tons of other games. I'm just really disappointed Nintendo has been using the same damn thing for 20 years.

[Josh]

Well, can you really expect anything different? I mean, Mario is still Mario, Capcom still uses Megaman, Pokemon is still Pokemon, and Sega still uses Sonic. Nintendo isn't the only person that uses characters for a long time.

[small link]

ok people time for some math class...

Link+Zelda+Ganon= GREAT ZELDA GAME!!! CHA! :clap:

so that means Great Zelda Game - Link (or zelda) = not so great game... (Majora's Mask is an exception to this law) So did you learn anything?


I think I get it... So: Link x pie = very good Zelda game. Because everyone loves Zelda, and everyone loves pie? Does that work?


NO! NO! NO! NO! you're not very good at math! Pie is only good in real life where you can eat it!!

(Duh)


No but seriously, I don't think It would be impossible to keep it Zelda if he died as long as you still played as him as the main character. ( oh and He still has to wear green!)

[Chidori]

No, Link doesn't have to wear green. That's just making him look like a Ripoff Peter Pan or Robin Hood, read posts please.

Also I know other game companies do this stuff but for one, this topic is based around Zelda and secondly, Link is extremely unoriginal as far as Heroes saving the world goes. They made him look EXACTLY like Peter Pan and Robin Hood like I've already mentioned. Look at Mario though, he's a plumber that has to save a Princess fighting Koopas and Goombas and all sorts of other unusual creatures on a fully brick road... That's...Pretty damn original when you compare it to Zelda, about a Legendary hero dressed in green that must explore dungeons and rescue the Princess and defeat the Monster. The same goes for Sonic etc. Pokemon, however need a gameplay change, the story is always fine but it's been too many damn years we've been playing the same damn game!

[Mike Pothier]

Well, Link's not flying, nor do Peter Pan and Robin Hood carry a sword and shield, in most incarnations anyway. If the best you can do to criticise his looks is to come up with two old, old storybook characters, I think you are really reaching.

Like I said, when you compare Link to the current trend for videogame superheroes, effeminate boys with huge swords and gruff space marines, Link is refreshingly different.

Lastly, if you think Nintendo has been doing the same thing for 20 years, I think you haven't been paying close enough attention to their games. In the established franchises, there has been huge shifts of innovation.

[Chidori]

There are a stack more people based around Link's green outfit being a hero and Link doesn't have to fly to resemble Peter Pan, he fights bad guys with his sword and so does Peter Pan. Oh, lets not forget that Fairy Mary Shuttlecock, I wonder where Nintendo got the idea of giving Link a Fairy, bares quite a resemblance to Tinkerbell m i rite?

I'm not comparing Link to anyone, I never brought up Cloud or Marcus Phoenix, I just criticized Nintendo for using the same clichè ripoff character and unoriginal story for 20 damn years. I think Zelda is "Ok" in terms of gameplay (Phantom Hourglass is genius compared to all of them) but damn I'd like a new story please!

[Mike Pothier]

There are a stack more people based around Link's green outfit being a hero

Okay... so who are they? So far you've named two, and the most recent is over 100 years old


and Link doesn't have to fly to resemble Peter Pan, he fights bad guys with his sword and so does Peter Pan.

So does 100 million other stock heroes. That doesn't mean they are based on Peter Pan.

Look, Link's outfit is based on the very common way people dressed in the middle ages. Green tunics were the norm back then. You think Robin Hood is the only guy to wear green in that age?


Oh, lets not forget that Fairy Mary Shuttlecock,

Okay, I have no idea WTF you are talking about here.


I wonder where Nintendo got the idea of giving Link a Fairy, bares quite a resemblance to Tinkerbell m i rite?

Or it could be that fairies (or sprites and pixies) are one of the most common fantasy races, which J. M. Barrie sure didn't create. Next you'll be telling Bram Stoker invented vampires.


I'm not comparing Link to anyone, I never brought up Cloud or Marcus Phoenix, I just criticized Nintendo for using the same clichè ripoff character and unoriginal story for 20 damn years. I think Zelda is "Ok" in terms of gameplay (Phantom Hourglass is genius compared to all of them) but damn I'd like a new story please!

There HAS been new stories. Every story in Zelda has been different. The problem is, you don't look past the initial characters and premise to see the subtlies of the franchise, how each story ties into the others, and how Nintendo is weaving a tapestry of an epic struggle of good and evil, fought over thousands of years.

No, they're just carbon copies of each other, right?

[Xizor]

I don't know if anybody said this, cause honestly I don't want to sift through 5 pages of it, but I'm 99% certain, if not 100%, that Link HAS died, and subsequent "Link" characters that are encountered in future games are not the same person as the original namesake.

[Mike Pothier]

Yes, but the OP suggested Link die in-game. Or in-story I should say.

[Stella3000]

NOOOOOOOOOO!
Link can NEVER die!

[Josh]

I am seriously going to kill the next person who says that.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Yet that is not what this thread is about. We're not talking about dying out of game, of old age, we're talking what if he actually died in, Let's say, in the new game, and never comes back. He just dies. Gone. Forever. Nintendo killed him off. We get a new hero. OR. He dies, we play as another character for a while, and then he comes back from the dead. OR. He dies, but his spirit is still here, and etc.

[Stella3000]

I know.
I meant that they can't kill him off.
They would ruin the series.

[Ace_Strife]

I honestly can't believe there are six pages in this thread.

Any die-hard Zelda fan will realize one thing above all else - Link is merely an avater of yourself, the player.

That's what Link is. Link is you, you are Link. Without you, Link has no personality, no thoughts, no state of character.

That's the nature of the character. Link is "The Legend of Zelda," not Princess Zelda. He always will be. He's the protagonist, but he's also supposed to be you. We all know what "Link" really means...

What could happen, of course, is killing off the character Ganon. That's a topic I would think people'd discuss rather than Nintendo killing off Link.

If that doesn't convince you, then look at it from a marketing point of view.

Link has become something of a second mascot for Nintendo. Not Zelda, not Ganon, but Link.

For crying out loud, Link was the Nintendo representative in the more mature game Soul Calibur 2, not Mario. Link is what appeals to the older generation. You're not going to sell Nintendo games to today's six year olds in ten years with a game sporting Mario's face on the cover. Most of my non-Nintendo friends will play Super Smash with me because it has characters like Zero-Suit Samus and Link in it. Not Mario. It's the older crowd that shows up at E3, not the six year olds. It's the older crowd that writes the reviews, not the six year olds.

That's my opinion, anyway.


I play tons of other games. I'm just really disappointed Nintendo has been using the same damn thing for 20 years.


Yeah, well, it's hard to argue with consistent 9/10s, isn't it budy? Can you name many other series with at least ten games within the last twenty years to do this?


They made him look EXACTLY like Peter Pan and Robin Hood like I've already mentioned. Look at Mario though, he's a plumber that has to save a Princess fighting Koopas and Goombas and all sorts of other unusual creatures on a fully brick road... That's...Pretty damn original when you compare it to Zelda, about a Legendary hero dressed in green that must explore dungeons and rescue the Princess and defeat the Monster.

Um...that's what Mario does too. Mario must go through dungeons stomping on the minions of the Evil Bowser in order to defeat him and rescue the Princess Peach, every damn time. And I'm pretty sure 19 year olds like me would rather swing a sword through dragons and wolfmen and orcs than jump on the heads of rotten mushrooms and silly turtles.

[Chidori]

Or it could be that fairies (or sprites and pixies) are one of the most common fantasy races, which J. M. Barrie sure didn't create. Next you'll be telling Bram Stoker invented vampires.

Dressed in Green Hero trying to save the world + A fairy from any other book other than Peter Pan... Ok you're pushing it, I really don't think Nintendo *JUST* got the idea of giving Link a fairy, I believe that this came straight from Peter Pan. Also I'm not the one to name another dressed in green hero, I can't remember what was read to me 7-8 years ago. I'm just using Peter Pan and Robin Hood specifically because I think Link resembles them a little too much that I think it's an easy ripoff.


There HAS been new stories. Every story in Zelda has been different. The problem is, you don't look past the initial characters and premise to see the subtlies of the franchise, how each story ties into the others, and how Nintendo is weaving a tapestry of an epic struggle of good and evil, fought over thousands of years.

You really must think I'm completely oblivious to Zelda Stories huh. I've played through Zelda 1, Zelda 2, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, The Four Swords Adventures, The Minish Cap, Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass, even though I have only played them once I know exactly what they are all about and there is change in each one but the problem is that EVERY SINGLE ONE IS ABOUT SAVING THE WORLD and the Princess(Except Majora's Mask)... Which is kinda weird because Nintendo already have a Main Character saving a Princess whom is Mario. Also you brought up how the Zelda Series "ties" with each other... *snort* Oh my god you have absolutely no freaking idea on what the Zelda Timeline is, nor does anyone. The only ones that connect are the the Sequals, Majora's Mask, Phantom Hourglass, Zelda 2 etc, the rest goes to all those nerds who actually donate time into making a "Timeline Theory".

Now let me be clear. I have no facts or proof that Nintendo is ripping off Peter Pan but I have beliefs and opinions and those won't change ever if Nintendo keeps using the same Damsel in Distress, Monster take over the World storyline for Zelda games. So keep in mind this is my opinion.

[edit] Oooookkk I just noticed someone else is ranting about my... rants.


Yeah, well, it's hard to argue with consistent 9/10s, isn't it budy? Can you name many other series with at least ten games within the last twenty years to do this?

I'm sure other companies can do such things but Nintendo was the one who got the first party gold so it's easy for them to make a big franchise out of their big games like Mario and Zelda. For that they have credit and to be honest, the first Zelda game wasn't so bad, it's just they keep doing the same concept over and over. Evil Monster, Princess, god they already did this for Mario. Speaking of Mario...


Um...that's what Mario does too. Mario must go through dungeons stomping on the minions of the Evil Bowser in order to defeat him and rescue the Princess Peach, every damn time. And I'm pretty sure 19 year olds like me would rather swing a sword through dragons and wolfmen and orcs than jump on the heads of rotten mushrooms and silly turtles.

Um ok, you have absolutely no knowledge of the Mario series whatsoever. I guess that's what to expect from someone who only looks toward Zelda when it comes to Nintendo (AKA. Hardcore Fanboy). Well with the Mario series, we first get a Plumber who walks on a Brick road jumping on everything, going to the 1-2 underground encountering new enemies etc then rescue the Princess, Mario 2 has you in a dream setting encountering completely new monsters and even the Princess is fighting with new and the goal is not to stop Bowser, but to stop Wart, In Mario 3 you have a world map and kill even more new things and the 7 koopalings. Then the list goes on and on of new things with Mario, from Mario going on Vacation to Mario going to Space. Holy hell Mario has been on one wild ride accomplishing different things. Too bad Link can only do *slightly* different things.

[Mike Pothier]

Dressed in Green Hero trying to save the world + A fairy from any other book other than Peter Pan... Ok you're pushing it, I really don't think Nintendo *JUST* got the idea of giving Link a fairy, I believe that this came straight from Peter Pan.

So where was that fairy that followed him around in the original? Or 2? 3? Link's Awakening? My my, the Tinker Bell rip off came to light in the FIFTH game. After fairies and sprites (who existed in fiction LONG LONG LONG before they appeared in J. M. Barrie's story, and in many, many fantasies after) were shown to exist all over Hyrule.



Also I'm not the one to name another dressed in green hero, I can't remember what was read to me 7-8 years ago. I'm just using Peter Pan and Robin Hood specifically because I think Link resembles them a little too much that I think it's an easy ripoff.


And I think you need to realize that just because Nintendo dressed him in a similar color, it doesn't mean they had them in mind in his creation. The game is based on the middle ages, where green tunics were a dime a dozen. Funny that.



You really must think I'm completely oblivious to Zelda Stories huh.

The thought had crossed my mind.


I've played through Zelda 1, Zelda 2, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, The Four Swords Adventures, The Minish Cap, Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass,

Good start.


even though I have only played them once

Thats why I know this subject better then you.


I know exactly what they are all about and there is change in each one but the problem is that EVERY SINGLE ONE IS ABOUT SAVING THE WORLD and the Princess(Except Majora's Mask)...

Standard fantasy leaping point.


Which is kinda weird because Nintendo already have a Main Character saving a Princess whom is Mario.

And we both know if you switched Link and Mario, nobody would know the difference.


Also you brought up how the Zelda Series "ties" with each other... *snort* Oh my god you have absolutely no freaking idea on what the Zelda Timeline is, nor does anyone.

Buddy, friend... I think you need to just back out gracefully at this point... because if you keep on this line of thought, I can tear you to pieces. Do you realize that there is a whole section of this board discussing the timeline? I've been discussing this with my friends since... 10 years at least. You do not want to get in the ring with me on this one.


The only ones that connect are the the Sequals, Majora's Mask, Phantom Hourglass, Zelda 2 etc, the rest goes to all those nerds who actually donate time into making a "Timeline Theory".

Well, I am a nerd, so are most of the people here, and in case you haven't noticed, this board is dedicated to just that. So if that makes you uncomfortable, click off. Because right now, you are treading on MY land, and I know it *well*.


Now let me be clear. I have no facts or proof that Nintendo is ripping off Peter Pan

Now what should that tell you?


but I have beliefs and opinions and those won't change ever if Nintendo keeps using the same Damsel in Distress, Monster take over the World storyline for Zelda games. So keep in mind this is my opinion.

So what kind of bloody stories would you want for a *fantasy videogame*?

And if you can't defend your opinion, what the hell are you doing online? Grow a backbone. Raising the "its my opinion" shield is the last resort for people who can't defend themselves.

[chrisbg99]

I always love the "It's my opinion" line. As if it that makes it invulnerable to debate.

The very fact that you put your opinion out there automatically puts it up for argument, deconstruction and rebuke. If you are unwilling (or unable) to defend your opinion then don't put it out there.

[Onilink89]

WTF is this all about. i'm already suprised that this simple topic has already reached its 6th page but man... :gasp: *speechless* whats with the long posts and quotes.

anyway as chrisbg99 said, its an "opinion topic", its not some kind of debate of right or wrong.
Now i ask you all to chill down a little before this gets out of control.

plus, this is going way of topic, link, then ganondorf and zelda, thats fine by me.
but now i see, mario, bowser, peter pan, robin hood ....(what did i miss more here?)

anyway, if you want to discuss timeline's then go to the timeline section.
if you want to debate (a friendly debate of course) about that link is a ripoff from peterpan, robinhood, king athur or whatever. then please just open a other topic for it.

[Ace_Strife]

Yeah, I really don't want to waste my time debating with a fanboy
Good, then you can debate with me. I'll just clear some things up. If the next Zelda game is a FPS or something, I'm not going to go in looking for positive points and go on shouting them out to the world. Rather, I'd bash Nintendo for ruining a tried and true method. I'm open-minded to any game, and own every single major Mario, Final Fantasy, Sonic, etc. games out there. Not that I have time to play them anymore. BTW, that doesn't make me a die-hard fan of any of them (except for perhaps Sonic...I've got a major bias there...)


Um ok, you have absolutely no knowledge of the Mario series whatsoever. I guess that's what to expect from someone who only looks toward Zelda when it comes to Nintendo (AKA. Hardcore Fanboy). Well with the Mario series, we first get a Plumber who walks on a Brick road jumping on everything, going to the 1-2 underground encountering new enemies etc then rescue the Princess, Mario 2 has you in a dream setting encountering completely new monsters and even the Princess is fighting with new and the goal is not to stop Bowser, but to stop Wart, In Mario 3 you have a world map and kill even more new things and the 7 koopalings. Then the list goes on and on of new things with Mario, from Mario going on Vacation to Mario going to Space. Holy hell Mario has been on one wild ride accomplishing different things. Too bad Link can only do *slightly* different things.


That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. You're under the impression that you're aware of the Mario series. Well then, I'm sure you know that Mario 2 isn't a real Mario game, in that there was a Japanese game called Doki Doki Panic that was later remade with Mario characters when released to the western world becuase the original Mario 2 was supposed to be too hard and similar to the original, and Doki Doki Panic would get very poor sales in the West by itself. If you still argue that it is still a Mario game, note that you can then do that to any franchise. Simply replace all the main charaters within a struggling game with prime Nintendo characters and give it the seal "Super Mario!" or "Metroid" and release it to the west to fatten your wallet.

And regardless, Mario 3 is exactly the same thing as Mario 1 except that there is less linearity and the koopa bosses look different until you battle the big dog (turtle) himself. And then in Super Mario World it's the same old thing except that you get a little dinosaur aiding you with negligible powers that vary to this time kill Bowser's children first before him himself.

Whatever. You need to save the stupid princess and beat King Koopa no matter how you look at it. Now, with Mario Galaxy, we start to see something new. But that's the ONLY exception. Too bad Zelda doesn't have any ONLY exceptions as I'm about to demonstrate:

In Zelda, you save the Princess, or the entire parallel dimension you find yourself in, or the world from drowning, or you just want to go home.

In Ocarina of Time, you were supposed to get the Triforce first before Ganondorf, but when you failed, you were supposed to seal him away and prevent him from getting the splintered Triforce pieces in order to rule the world. In Majora's Mask, you're looking for Navi, but find yourself in another dimension that's about to be crushed by the moon by a lonely old friend of yours that got mind controlled by an ancient mask. How many games have you played like that? And then in Wind Waker, you're eventaully pulled into a quest to research history in order to reseal an evil power made manifest in the released ganon. And then, in Twilight Princess, you are forced by a Princess from another dimension to recover her throne, especially after your own princess sacrifices her life to help the first. Ganon appears, but he was originally not supposed to. Zant was the final boss until Nintendo realized that they had an extra year or something to work on the game because of the Wii.


I always love the "It's my opinion" line. As if it that makes it invulnerable to debate.

The very fact that you put your opinion out there automatically puts it up for argument, deconstruction and rebuke. If you are unwilling (or unable) to defend your opinion then don't put it out there.

Or, perhaps, some people keep the discussion open to debate by stating that they themselves understand that what they've posted is simply an opinion and not the truth, and welcome intelligent opposition. I wonder why you've bothered to post anything if you're not going to contribute to the debate. I wonder if you're trying to gain brownie points or something. Really, it's quite perplexing.

I find it rather insulting that you second guess my motives rather poorly. Perhaps we can start over and I won't have a negative opinion of you?

Hello, my name is Ace_Strife. I do not seek fights with people that do not insult me. I am actually quite a friendly person, but will not tolerate jabs at my intelligence. I hope that is quite understandable.

[Onilink89]

Ok thats it... Topic closed for now.
Timelag, Ace Strife you guys just ignore me here and really trying to provoke each other.

[Wareya]

People -really- need to stop posting their opinions as the truth. Very much. If I sound like a hypocrite,look what heppened to this thread. Happy?

[Mases]

I honestly can't believe there are six pages in this thread.

Any die-hard Zelda fan will realize one thing above all else - Link is merely an avater of yourself, the player.

That's what Link is. Link is you, you are Link. Without you, Link has no personality, no thoughts, no state of character.


I think you nailed it right on the dot here. Whoever is playing the game is Link. It's part of the reason Link never talks at all as well. They want you to use your own imagination.

To quote the Angry Video Game Nerd, "Nobody ever dies in Nintendo". I think they COULD kill off Zelda in one game, or perhaps a love interest in the game like Ilia, but never Link.

[ebuch]

I started a thread of this topic on Zentendo's boards, and got a couple different reactions. Judging by some of the latest posts (I didn't read them all), we had the same arguement about people's opinions. Kinda interesting to see how two different sites can have the same kind of views. Sorry for stealing the topic... I really wanted to see what another community would think.

[Stella3000]

Wow...........you boys really go at it don't you?
Okay first off I suggest we listen to the nice moderator and stay on topic before he bands us.
Second I have to admit I'm almost tempted to state my own opinion about this little debate you all are having. This is because I grew up around my bros who have been BIG fans of the Zelda and Mario series. Thus I have played and heard a lot about all the games.
But I'm not going to.
This is because the 'debate' is going to far. You guys just need to cool it.
And last Link should NEVER be killed off because Nintendo needs him.

[Mike Pothier]

Actually, the "debate" is pretty much over at this point. Although I admit I shouldn't have let him rile me up so much. Looking back, he had all the signs of being a troll.

[chrisbg99]

Or, perhaps, some people keep the discussion open to debate by stating that they themselves understand that what they've posted is simply an opinion and not the truth, and welcome intelligent opposition. I wonder why you've bothered to post anything if you're not going to contribute to the debate. I wonder if you're trying to gain brownie points or something. Really, it's quite perplexing.

I find it rather insulting that you second guess my motives rather poorly. Perhaps we can start over and I won't have a negative opinion of you?

Hello, my name is Ace_Strife. I do not seek fights with people that do not insult me. I am actually quite a friendly person, but will not tolerate jabs at my intelligence. I hope that is quite understandable.

Um, yeah I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about TimeLag's use of "its my opinion" and using that to attempt to block argument against him. I'm sorry if you took that wrong.

[Stella3000]

I hope they never kill off link. I think that link is what keeps tLoZ going.

[Bluelink6]

If they killed link they would effectively, be killing the loz franchise.you can't slag the main character.

[kpllk]

Link should not die but I do think they should change the charecters around. Mabay Ganon and Ganondorf can team up with Zelda and go to the good side. Then Link would think that it is a trick so he would pretend to be evil but he is corrupted by the overrwhelming power and stay bad. You would be able to switch characters and play as either Zelda, Ganon, Ganondorf, and evil Link and Dark Link. In the end Zelda would find out that Ganon and Ganondorf didn't want to be bad but an evil swordsman tricked them. The game would end when Link met the swordsman. This game would lead into another one.

[mastersword18]

I think LInk should die but instead of going away his spirit should posess another heros body or help a new hero or something along those lines.

[MajoraKing12]

I think LInk should die but instead of going away his spirit should posess another heros body or help a new hero or something along those lines.

Do you think that Gandorf kills Link or should Dark Link should kill him?(i'm just curious)?

[kpllk]

Both of them should team up and attack him.

[Keats]

... More to the point of the thread, I can see this working if it were a strictly temporary kind of thing that was essential to driving the story forward. For instance, say Link is killed by the antagonist early on in the game and takes a trip to the afterlife. While there, he meets up with this game's version of Navi, Tatl, or Midna, who explains what is going on and brings him back to life. Link, now enlightened as to what is going on after his trip to heaven, is given a drive in his quest.

Just a thought.

[OCDays]

Meh, a dead Link just means another one would come back, but maybe ending the Link chain (huh just noticed that) would be something....new. Still sounds sorta extreme, the series would definately not be the same, itd be sorta cool as a spinoff though but not as the main game.

[Claire]

No, no, no!

If Link dies, then the Legend of Zelda will turn into a Soap Opera based game. Really, a beautiful young lady.. he tries to save her, constantly, always trying to save her and then he dies!? How could you do that, that's just.. I have nothing more to say - it just isn't right. He has to finally save her, he just has to!

[Petman1325]

It depends. Are you bored out of your mind?
JK. If you want him to die, then just let the Octork shoot rocks at you....

[yojoel333]

Both of them should team up and attack him.

yes but link should not die................("_")

[kpllk]

Well someone has to dye. If Link isn't going to then who should.

[Claire]

Well someone has to dye. If Link isn't going to then who should.

Well, since it is just a game - I say nobody should die in game. Sure, there may have ages that pass and there is a new Link.. meaning that the old Link had died eventually. But I do not think Link should die in game.

[kpllk]

But it would make the plot of the game a lot better and more interesting if someone died. It would be an epic finnal battle for someone. I like to say epic.

[linkman8]

But it would make the plot of the game a lot better and more interesting if someone died. It would be an epic finnal battle for someone. I like to say epic.
Though I'd prefer it not to be an epic character like Link that dies. Maybe a secondary or tertiary character...

[Claire]

If Tingle died... hm.
They may have something with that idea.

[kpllk]

YES! TINGLE should dye. He is very anoying. He always gets on my nerves.

[Petman1325]

Maybe Link had an "Accident" with a hookshot, and it just so happened the hook ended in Tingle's skull...

[kpllk]

Maybe Link had an "Accident" with a hookshot, and it just so happened the hook ended in Tingle's skull...

Should he dye because of the hookshot or something else. Maybe an arrow. Or he bores him to death with his Ocarina. I am not saying he is bad at playing instruments, but he could use a bit more practice.

[waldo12]

personally i never get old of the ganon as the bad guy its just somthing i look foward to but what if ganon killed link the game was over then there would be a sequal of link going through dungens to come back to life and soon he is able to and at the end he fights ganon and wins both games would be made and ready within a year of each other like lord of the ring movies)

it could even be like a trilogy game where the its like 1st game link dies 2nd hes dead must find away to live and third he must face ganon in a world thats like the dark world

[Claire]

Should he dye because of the hookshot or something else. Maybe an arrow. Or he bores him to death with his Ocarina. I am not saying he is bad at playing instruments, but he could use a bit more practice.

I cannot believe you are even coming up with ways Tingle should die. x)
I wouldn't mind a pot just being so conveniently placed that it lands straight on Tingle. Maybe Epona on a rampage, trampling Tingle... hmmm...

[Kitsu]

Hmm, maybe Tingle could die tragically, such as Link fighting an enemy, like a mini-boss or the like, while rescuing Tingle, but he gets in the way and the enemy's weapon misses Link and...

[Hylian Hobbit]

Since when did the "Should Link die?" thread become the "How should Tingle die"? thread? o.0

As I've said before, I don't see Nintendo killing off Link. Sure they could make him come back to life or whatever, but still.

[Claire]

I think it became flip-flopped when it just set in that Link cannot die. Either way, I think the majority of people can agree that the day Tingle dies, will be a happy day.

[kpllk]

Someone is going to die and it is going to be tingle. Maybe like when Bellum latched on to Linebeck to make Bellum Night. Maybe something like that but tingle transforms and link has to kill him. Or maybe Link finds out he was one of his enemys all along in disguiss and he has to killl him.

[MajoraKing12]

I think it became flip-flopped when it just set in that Link cannot die. Either way, I think the majority of people can agree that the day Tingle dies, will be a happy day.

probly when tingle dies everyone will be happy. because i know that i will be happy!!^^

[zeldusfanaticus]

link should never die he is the hero in every game he's the best beside's he is the hero of zelda and everyone knows link and zelda love eachother

[Zemen]

Considering there have been several Links I'm not sure what the point is.

i agree with this. each game (except for the ones that we know are direct sequels to another game) has a different Link. if Link dies in a game there would just be a new Link to take his place.

[kpllk]

Still, it would make timelines and storylines better if someone died.

[Zemen]

Still, it would make timelines and storylines better if someone died.

my point is that if Link dies, someone will immediately take his place because the triforce of courage will be transfered to the next worthy person it senses and by some twist of fate that person will become the next hero. no matter what happens, if an antagonist exists and lives, so will a hero even if one dies.

[kpllk]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

[Kitsu]

Hm, I don't think that a new hero using guns and explosives in a Zelda game would, well, feel like Zelda. Unless they were weapons like the powder keg or primitive guns or some original type of weapon, I wouldn't care much for a Zelda with guns.

[Chris]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

Zelda as an army game! WTF are you thinking?!? Zelda is supposed to take place in the middle ages. And guns in Zelda would suck so much.

[Zemen]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

if thats what youre looking for than play Fable 2 cus it has guns or play call of duty because thats an army game with guns. there are way too many army games out there so why change Zelda into that? the sword is the whole point of all of the Zelda games. its always a specific sword that you need to defeat the bad guy. it would be retarded if you needed a special gun to defeat the bad guy. dont mess with the Zelda equation. everything adds up perfectly as it is and incase you hadnt noticed, Zelda does have explosives. ever heard of bombs? the closes thing to a gun that the Zelda series should ever see is a bow and arrow or maybe someday, a crossbow inplace of a bow and arrow. or in WW with the canon. other than that no guns.

[kpllk]

I was just saying it would be even cooler if it was different. It is already awesome.

[Zemen]

different is ok but not THAT much different. that would change the entire aspect of the game. i dont want to see a commercial i think is for call of duty and then all the sudden i see that Link is the one shooting people.

[kpllk]

I think they should do something like that for at least 1 game. It may be good, it may be bad, there's only 1 way to find out.

[Moosh_is_cool]

I hope Link never dies forever. that would stink and I (as well as many other hardcore fans, I'd assume) would be really angry at Nintendo! I mean, little changes in appearence, gameplay and/or storyline are to be expected and are fine. But if they turned Link into a woman, made Zelda a villan, and had Link running around with an AK-47 and camo jeans, it would'nt be Legend Of Zelda anymore!

[Zemen]

I hope Link never dies forever. that would stink and I (as well as many other hardcore fans, I'd assume) would be really angry at Nintendo! I mean, little changes in appearence, gameplay and/or storyline are to be expected and are fine. But if they turned Link into a woman, made Zelda a villan, and had Link running around with an AK-47 and camo jeans, it would'nt be Legend Of Zelda anymore!

first of all, like ive said before twice now, there are many Links, even if one dies (death is usually forever), there would just be a different Link in the next game. i dont understand why this is so confusing for everyone. there are only like 3 games with sequels that have the same link which means the other 8 games are all completely different Links. it would not matter if Link died. it would be a weird twist to the game if it happened at the end but then there would just be another hylian wearing green who would step up. stop posting stupid stuff saying you hope Link doesnt die. Link represents the good that will always be there in the presence of Evil. Wind Waker shows us this by introducing a character that is seemingly unworthy to be the Hero. even one of the gods (i think the ocean king or something) says in Wind Waker that he may not be the hero they need. in wind waker you are just some kid who gets green clothes as tradition and then sets out on an adventure because his sister was kidnapped. if he wouldnt have gone on the adventure then some other kid from a different island in that game would have gone on the adventure and saved the day. the character is just a metaphor for everlasting heroism.

[Moosh_is_cool]

>_< omg duh it's not exactly the same person! Link is sometimes an adult and sometimes a kid! but when i said i hoped he wont die, i meant the character! i didn't mean a link in one game dies and he reappears in a new game! i meant it would stink if they killed off link FOREVER, if you would read what i said!

[Claire]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

>_>
Please tell me you aren't suggesting Link with hand grenades.

Personally, if there were more modern weapons (although we have advanced to bombs, crossbows, hookshots, etc) I think the game would fail. There are enough war games, not enough good old fantasy. If the Legend of Zelda became even a futuristic fantasy war game, that would just kind of ruin it for me. There are already games like that, but quite frankly - to me there is nothing like the Legend of Zelda series.

Also, Link just cannot die. I really think it would ruin the series. After all, if the hero were to be defeated, then the land would perish and be unresolvable. What kind of game would it be with no hero?

[Alder Dragon]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

Wow, I can't even think of words to describe how horribly mad I would be if Nintendo did that. It would completely ruin the Zelda series.

[Zemen]

i didn't mean a link in one game dies and he reappears in a new game! i meant it would stink if they killed off link FOREVER, if you would read what i said!

you are definitely still not getting my point.

if they killed Link off forever then they would just have a different hero wearing the same clothes.

i think what you are trying to say is that it would suck if they had a hero that was nothing like Link. if they introduced a totally new character wearing completely different clothes then yes that would suck and i think that is what you are trying to say but you werent doing a very good job.

nintendo will never do that though. there are too many die hard fans who would be pissed and if they did that then it wouldnt be the legend of zelda. its like saying "what if they have a game where the princess of hyrule isnt named zelda?"

its a dumb question to ask because it will never happen.

[Moosh_is_cool]

i think what you are trying to say is that it would suck if they had a hero that was nothing like Link. if they introduced a totally new character wearing completely different clothes then yes that would suck and i think that is what you are trying to say but you werent doing a very good job.


Just because you couldn't understand what I was saying, doesn't mean i did a bad job explaining it!>:(

[Zemen]

actually, if you re-read what you said, it definintely was a poor way of putting it. all you did was emphasize the same word that everyone else had been using. that doesnt change the way the sentence is read, it just changes the way ONE word is stressed. the way you said it made it sound like they would just continue Zelda without a hero. the way i interpreted it for everyone is that they would make a new hero that is nothing like Link. so, yes, you did do a poor job of explaining it. i wasnt trying to be a jerk when i said that. i was just merely stating the obvious. get over it.

[Moosh_is_cool]

wow. i'm glad i don't know many people like you. are you even aware of how you word things?

[mewtwolord]

ha my friend said he might make link die in a game and link in spirit world trying to bring himself back to life by collecting parts of his soul [fatetality] in a certain amount of days like in majora's mask [i was like what 2 short you crazy]

[zeypherlink]

Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.
If you want to shoot crap, go play CoD.

[Hero Of Termina]

I don't think Link should die becuse of the Zelda traditoin.

[Vincent]

Link has died countless times. What do you think happens when you run out of hearts?

[mewtwolord]

lol think about it a game were link is in the spirit world trying to collect pieces of his soul

[Zemen]

Link has died countless times. What do you think happens when you run out of hearts?

that is definintely something completely different. whenever you "die" in the game you just restart from an earlier spot so as far as actualy events in the game go, you never die.

however, Link does die. i mean most of the games have a different Link which means the previous one has passed on.

[Master Link]

Well the title of the Game IS Legend of Zelda, so it leaves space for link to die and pass on the triforce of courage to the next main character. It's possible but I for one won't want him to die.

[Zemen]

Well the title of the Game IS Legend of Zelda, so it leaves space for link to die and pass on the triforce of courage to the next main character. It's possible but I for one won't want him to die.

umm like i just said, Link does die and he passes on the Triforce to another hero who just happens to be called Link.

also, incase no one ever noticed, the character is never really named Link in any of the games. you always input your name and thats the name that shows throughout the game. so unless you name your character "Link," he is never really even a character in the game.

[Chris]

Well if link died, that would end the series. The only reason for doing that is if they could not come up with any other Zelda games, and that would really suck. So I hope Link doesn't ever die. Go Link!

[mewtwolord]

well i toatly go against my friends idea of link dying in a game and link has to collect pieces of his soul and to make it all worse he said link only gets 10 days before he dies for good and i told him thats stupid and the days part is from majora s mask

[kris94]

it has been many different "Links" :D

[Hero Of Termina]

I don't think Link should die. Afterall he's the main character.

[Zemen]

sorry if i sound like a broken record, but, uh, LINK DOES DIE.

there are different Links in each game (with the exception of Link in OoT/MM, ALTTP/LA, ??LoZ/AoL??, WW/PH).

with that in mind, obviously Link eventually dies from old age or something, leaving room for a new hero to step forward sometime after the orignal hero has passed away.

[Josh]

You are a broken record. One that can't be fixed. Apparently.

Okay. I'm repeat myself for the last time in this thread.

This thread is not about all the numerous times that he's died over the years. In every game whatsoever when you can't keep yourself alive.

This thread is about what if Nintendo literally took his character out of the game. Not some cheap death where you die, or hell, it could even be in game and part of the storyline. It's about if they killed off Link in the storyline and left the game to continue. Should they kill him off in the storyline?

Or bring him back later, while you play as Zelda, or Ganon, or somebody for a while.

Anybody get it?

[zeypherlink]

Terrible idea Josh.
Zelda does not need a new protagonist, end of story. One of the core Zelda themes is the epic battle between Link and Ganon/dorf.

[Zemen]

You are a broken record. One that can't be fixed. Apparently.

Okay. I'm repeat myself for the last time in this thread.

This thread is not about all the numerous times that he's died over the years. In every game whatsoever when you can't keep yourself alive.

This thread is about what if Nintendo literally took his character out of the game. Not some cheap death where you die, or hell, it could even be in game and part of the storyline. It's about if they killed off Link in the storyline and left the game to continue. Should they kill him off in the storyline?

Or bring him back later, while you play as Zelda, or Ganon, or somebody for a while.

Anybody get it?

if that is what the topic of this thread is then that should have been a lot more clear. the title shouldnt be "should link die?" the title should be "should link be replaced/taken out of the series?"

[EponaOwns]

No no NO. It will change the zelda series. Maybe an end credits that shows Link dying but then Zelda heals him or something. They can save that when they retire the series for good*which they probably wont I hope*

[Zero]

Well, this is an interesting topic, because I believe just recently a similar argument was being fought.
"No, Solid Snake CAN'T DIE! It's called Metal Gear SOLID!!!!! Where do you think the SOLID comes from eh? Snake dying would ruin the series!"
But I don't think I'd like to see Link die (in game). Perhaps they could use a boring "Link got captured and thrown in a dungeon" plot device to remove him from the game while not removing him from the series.
More possibly, they could do a Snake and Raiden relation, where Link is still IN the game and he keeps doing what he's doing, but you don't PLAY as him.

Either way, they should make a Zelda game where you play as Ralph, that would be so totally amazing.

[Claire]

Well, this is an interesting topic, because I believe just recently a similar argument was being fought.
"No, Solid Snake CAN'T DIE! It's called Metal Gear SOLID!!!!! Where do you think the SOLID comes from eh? Snake dying would ruin the series!"
But I don't think I'd like to see Link die (in game). Perhaps they could use a boring "Link got captured and thrown in a dungeon" plot device to remove him from the game while not removing him from the series.
More possibly, they could do a Snake and Raiden relation, where Link is still IN the game and he keeps doing what he's doing, but you don't PLAY as him.

Either way, they should make a Zelda game where you play as Ralph, that would be so totally amazing.

You mean as if though they would flip-flop and Link would be captured and Zelda had to save him? A little untraditional if you ask me, but I prefer the idea of a courageous hero saving the beautiful princess.

It has been in the text of the games before, that if Link were to fail and die - that Ganon would succeed and the damage would not be able to be changed. They also said Link shared the bloodline of royal knights of Hyrule, and that (I believe) was the last one to carry their bloodline.

[Zero]

Well, I never said Zelda (Ralph > Zelda) but yeah, something like that.

[imthemailman]

well think about this if you played as zelda it could actually be a very good spin off like come on who doesnt want to play sheik? o come on you all know you do

[Claire]

well think about this if you played as zelda it could actually be a very good spin off like come on who doesnt want to play sheik? o come on you all know you do

It would be rather awkward having Zelda come after Link, seeing as she isn't the one with the triforce of courage. She may be wise, but how could she manage to be courageous enough to actually put forth a plan to try and save him?

I do not think Link should die, or anything she be flip-flopped. I think everything is quite sound, but then the question remains: How should the series end?

[Chrono]

Link has died plenty of times. In game, between games, during AoL when Ganon returns...hmm yeah, duh.

[MajoraKing12]

Your right, he has died a lot of times in the game. Some one else should take over.

[Zemen]

Your right, he has died a lot of times in the game. Some one else should take over.

what do you mean someone should take over? someone does take over everyon game! it is not the same person in each game. no one seems to understand that.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Link is eternal!

He has the power of the gods!

He will never die!!!!!!!

[gerudo goyo]

Everybody dies. Even Link. Link's not immortal.

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

Everybody dies. Even Link. Link's not immortal.

That may be, but his spirit lives FOREVER!!!!!:xd::xd::xd:

[master sword]

But a different antagonist should work fine. I do not want to see Ganon in the next Zelda. Want something different!
:eek::eek::eek:
what's wrong with you gannon(dorf) is the ultimate baddie. when you say zelda i think

1st: Link
2nd: Zelda
3rd: Gannon

The legend of Zelda revolves around those three people...
think about it...:hmm:

[Claire]

Link has died plenty of times. In game, between games, during AoL when Ganon returns...hmm yeah, duh.

Link has died plenty of times by control of the person holding the controller, yes. Has the Link who is in the storyline ever die, due to a previous planned storyline where you cannot avoid the death? No. This topic isn't about players losing lives, the topic is about whether it would be wise or unwise to have the Link living at the time to die in, and during the game - which I totally think would be a poor move, since Link is generally the first one you think of when you hear "Legend of Zelda", despite his name not being in the title.

Link is classic, he's been around since the classics, and I do not think he should be taken away so quickly or so suddenly.

[Typhingblade]

In the manga...
shadow link is link but hes just lonely because he never gets aknowledged but dark link...
the water temple one is totally different... hes the evil one...
but in four swords adventures there are more appearances of dark link and in the manga dark link saves the day...

[Keats]

Have I posted in this thread? I can't remember, but I'm too lazy to go back and check.

Anyway, I think it should happen. Lately I've been envisioning a pre-Colonial era Zelda game that was not in any way inspired by Fable 2, and I find that it would be an interesting way to move the plot forward.

Alright, in this pre-Colonial Hyrule, Link has been charged with saving the world as usual. Early on, he meets the villain of the game. Link bravely cuts down his guards and attempts to end the villain early on. The villain simply knocks Link to the ground, and when he tries again, the villain shoots him, and Link is killed.

In the afterlife, Link is introduced to this game's helper character, who we will assume is, say, celestial Zelda. She informs Link of what's going on, and she resurrects Link so he can continue on his quest.

Personally, I haven't seen anything like that in a Zelda game. It would be interesting.

[Skull_Kid]

:eek::eek::eek:
what's wrong with you gannon(dorf) is the ultimate baddie. when you say zelda i think

1st: Link
2nd: Zelda
3rd: Gannon

The legend of Zelda revolves around those three people...
think about it...:hmm:

You are almost being "GANNON-BANNED!" Ganon is only with one "N"

Ganon should return, but not every damn game, give the series a new antagonist for one of the timelines(the adult, it fits better there)

[Amelie]

Link has died plenty of times by control of the person holding the controller, yes. Has the Link who is in the storyline ever die, due to a previous planned storyline where you cannot avoid the death? No. This topic isn't about players losing lives, the topic is about whether it would be wise or unwise to have the Link living at the time to die in, and during the game - which I totally think would be a poor move, since Link is generally the first one you think of when you hear "Legend of Zelda", despite his name not being in the title.

Link is classic, he's been around since the classics, and I do not think he should be taken away so quickly or so suddenly.

This

The same rules apply to Link that apllyed to Ganon. We cant take Link away. He makes the legend of Zelda what it is!

[LinkOwnsYou]

Thinking 'bout it it wouldn't be the same without Link, unless that the new protagonist (he OR she) would be Link's Son/Daughter ,that the mom it's unknown (because I wouldn't like a couple that includes Link in a Zelda game not that I'm a Link fangirl it's just that seems weird, besides my best friend would die) and he/she it's the new chosen one, would be kinda cool, Or his lost sister from the WW Aryll!, but I think that the people of Nintendo don't take too serious a woman as a protagonist of a Zelda game.


sorry if i sound like a broken record, but, uh, LINK DOES DIE.

there are different Links in each game (with the exception of Link in OoT/MM, ALTTP/LA, ??LoZ/AoL??, WW/PH).

with that in mind, obviously Link eventually dies from old age or something, leaving room for a new hero to step forward sometime after the orignal hero has passed away.

Or his lost sister from WW Aryll!(I call it lost because I haven't seen her after the wind Waker)


Yeah but you might use completly different weapons if it was a different hero. Maybe he isn't a swordsman and you don't have to use swords. What if its more guns and explosives. It might be just like one of those Army games. I think that would be really cool.

*stares at you with big opened eyes*
tell me that you're joking plz.
if you want to shoot something go play GoW, Call of Duty, Dead space, Left 4 dead, etc but I think that zelda it's perfect as it is!

[Alkarius]

Ok, if Link dies, who will be the hero? Not Zelda, she gets captured all the time. Now, in a game where he died for a bit and Dark Link became the hero for a game, but Link came alive again at the end to whoop Ganon's butt, that would be cool, but deifinately not forever.

[yugispoony]

I think that Link sould come close to dying but the escape and have no one know he surrvived, that would give you the opportunity in the game to play as Link in hiding. I think that would be fun!!:) :)

[Amelie]

Hasnt Link already had relitves and things be the next Link? I remember I always thought they were all the same Link when I was younger.

Thats why I guess I never bothered with timelines. Its the same thing over anyway ><

Same with Castlevania >> But I think I said that in another thread

[bellum]

:fairy:well I think someone should be gotten rid of maybe not link but someone:fairy:

[Amelie]

What do you mean by that exactly? How does it really..err.. help the topic? Who should be gotten rid of?

[Mercedes]

Resident Evil

The undoubted star of that gaming series is Wesker; he's behind everything, and despite being the bad guy, has always been considered cool by everyone who plays this gaming series. He's an important cog in the mechanics of that game series. If Wesker dies, no doubt Resident Evil will too.

Its the same principle for LoZ.

Link goes; Legend of Zelda dissapears.

^^

[Amelie]

Exactly! ^^ I dont think I could have said it better myself!

So no. Link should not die.

[Betsegaw]

If he dies that would destroy the whole balance of all zelda games!

[BladeMasterLink]

well if link dies then some1 should replace him 4 a while nd then ending up coming back 2 life some how nd gets back n action

[Amelie]

I dont like that idea much. Sorry ><

And please take time to spell the "whole" word. I have a hard time reading your post >>

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

As I said before, Link can't die, nor should he be killed.

The whole series revolves around the Link character. Take away the character that holds everything up, and the whole series falls to the ground.

[LucarioMaster]

As I said before, Link can't die, nor should he be killed.

The whole series revolves around the Link character. Take away the character that holds everything up, and the whole series falls to the ground.

right if link dies forever in the game can't u start the file over? but Ver-go-a-go-go is right (if i tried 2 type tht it would take me 4 hours of errors to type over and over)

[Ver-go-a-go-go]

right if link dies forever in the game can't u start the file over? but Ver-go-a-go-go is right (if i tried 2 type tht it would take me 4 hours of errors to type over and over)

You spelled it right:D

Yeah, for some games, I think it's okay to kill off the main character (FF for example). But for Zelda, I don't think you could ever find a way to make it work.

[Turien Took]

Don't kill the cute one! If Link should die, noone would want to play the games, because he's the whole point of LOZ, it wouldn't make any sense without him

[LucarioMaster]

Don't kill the cute one! If Link should die, noone would want to play the games, because he's the whole point of LOZ, it wouldn't make any sense without him

right! :) (link shuld b imortal!)


You spelled it right:D

Yeah, for some games, I think it's okay to kill off the main character (FF for example). But for Zelda, I don't think you could ever find a way to make it work.

ya i had 2 copy & paste, if link died i would jumpinto the game and revive him

[bellum]

personaly It would be awful if link died :kawaii: and shadow link and ganon taking over well I've always wondered what A game would be like from ganons point of view:hmm:but I'd change all we know about Loz and link and I dont want that to happen my main point,link stays^^

[Sk8r-Tonberry09]

Yes I thenk Link should die but ends up shadow Link returns and Link gits revived (SP maby)by zelda to fight shadow Link. There you have it me openyin.

[LoZfan]

Yes I thenk Link should die but ends up shadow Link returns and Link gits revived (SP maby)by zelda to fight shadow Link. There you have it me openyin.

I with you there Tonberry

[Metroid133]

If they did kill Link in a game he would just come back to life! ^_^ Sort of like Yusuke in Yu Yu Hakusho. Minus the demon blood of course. ^_^'

[LucarioMaster]

If they did kill Link in a game he would just come back to life! ^_^ Sort of like Yusuke in Yu Yu Hakusho. Minus the demon blood of course. ^_^'

right thts true (i guess) unless he had a fariy in a bottle he would not compleaty die off LET LINK LIVE!!

[Metroid133]

right thts true (i guess) unless he had a fariy in a bottle he would not compleaty die off LET LINK LIVE!!

Although look at Ganondorf! >_> He never dies! :P He either gets turned to stone or is sealed away. :P

[LucarioMaster]

Although look at Ganondorf! >_> He never dies! :P He either gets turned to stone or is sealed away. :P

hmmm... i guess thats true, well every zelda game is a diffrent link in the game with diffrent items and enimies

[UsayEldaZay]

i dont think link should ''die'' but he should be captured or something and then you play as zelda and then get link back!!! YARGG!!

[Josh]

Although look at Ganondorf! >_> He never dies! :P He either gets turned to stone or is sealed away. :P

Ganon dies at least in LoZ, and probably Twilight Princess and Wind Waker.

[zeldatwilight]

i think in an upcoming came they should have ganon kill link then much later in the game zelda revives him and kills ganon

[MajoraKing12]

i dont think link should ''die'' but he should be captured or something and then you play as zelda and then get link back!!! YARGG!!

Or Link could get captured and you have to fight through to escape wherever he is captured. I like that to happen around in the middle of the game. And to me it would be fun.:)

[bellum]

If link dies then what the zelda series would kinda be over
I dont know anyone who wants link to die
wow I just realized if someone put a poll on here since this is the most popular thread the votes would be very accurate on what people think about it O.o

[Zenox]

Ganon dies at least in LoZ, and probably Twilight Princess and Wind Waker.

He only gets turned to stone in Wind Waker and, if my memory serves me, he also gets sealed into the Master sword in TP.

[Josh]

He only gets turned to stone in Wind Waker and, if my memory serves me, he also gets sealed into the Master sword in TP.

Nah. He doesn't get sealed in TP, just gets the sword in the stomach and dies standing up. And now that I remember, ALTTP too.

[majoraman3]

kill him, kill em all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bellum]

kill him, kill em all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.if your trying to reply to someone what they say just quote
2.This is justa bunch of spam
3.I dont inderstand what you talking about
4.*click* there goes your reputation down the drain

[LucarioMaster]

link should live FOREVER!!!
*eternal hero plays in distence*
and link shuld NOT DIE

[Shawnogohma]

OK, so, yes, this has already been said, but Link has died many times. That's why he has descendants.

But having him die IN the game wouldn't make sense.

Although, now that I think about it, Zelda games are never what you expect, so the next Zelda game might have him die after beating the final boss. I hope not though.

[bob]

Yes, I think that eventualy link will die but I dont think that it will be any time soon. The reason being link is making nintendo way to much money for them to even think about killing him.

[Alter]

I've always liked the theory that the reason Link has a pure heart (thus he is able to pull the Master Sword), is because Dark Link somehow ended up as the extraction of the evil in Link. If this were the case, Dark Link is a part of him. Would it somehow destroy Link if Dark Link was actually killed? DL has been destroyed in the past, sure. But it's assumed he went to the "evil jar". ;) Same as how Link hasn't actually killed monsters in the past.

I think it'd be a cool idea as a stand-alone game. Perhaps Link has to kill himself to save everyone else. Or something.

I like the idea of "a" Link actually raising a family. It would be obvious which Link it was (HoT, HoW, etc), just to help create a more established timeline. He has a wife and child (maybe several children). At the end of the game he dies, creating a big emotional mess, but leaves his line to live on. Or not, seeing as how TWW states that the HoW Link is not a descendant of the HoT Link.

Anyone ever wonder what happened to Link's father in OoT? I believe it only mentions his mother, right (been a while since I've played)? Perhaps he was a "Link"?

[SethOmega]

I think it would be cool for him to die, as long as he was brought back to life in the same game. Maybe you have to play as zelda to bring him back?

[Johnny Boy]

I personally think Link dying would be very cool.
Maybe once he died, his legacy could
be carried on to someone younger than him,
like his child or something..lol.
Very deep storyline.

[majoraman3]

Well the thing is, its: like there seems to be a different link in what seems like every different LOZ game. So its like hes been dead the whole time.:)

[Zemen]

well i feel as though the Zelda series is loosely based off of religion in America. the goddesses represent God. the sages represent priests or reverends as does the King. Ganon/dorf represents maybe the son of the devil as opposed to representing the Devil and Link represents Jesus.

i know that Link doesnt ultimately sacrifice himself but he does put his life on the line and, in OoT, he sacrifices his whole childhood (even though he gets it back) to say the world from evil.

now if my theory on the game being based on religion is correct, then its possible that in some game they could have Link ultimately sacrificing himself for others.

[DvSag]

No way is Zelda an allegory for the Bible.

If that was the case, then you could relate every hero story to the Bible.
Beowulf = Bible?
Harry Potter = Bible?
Super Mario = Bible?

[Zemen]

No way is Zelda an allegory for the Bible.

If that was the case, then you could relate every hero story to the Bible.
Beowulf = Bible?
Harry Potter = Bible?
Super Mario = Bible?

lol and exactly how would you compare those to the bible?

Beowulf is jesus and grendel/grendels mother is the devil? wheres the god and who are the priests or reverends or pastors?

harry potter is all about magic which is completely against the bible (according to a very religious friend of mine) so that is a pretty false statement.

super mario? really? that doesnt even come close to anything i explained with Zelda.

[DvSag]

Priests, reverends, and pastors are NOT in the Bible. The Bible is about Creation, and Jesus' miracle workings and his eventual persecution and resurrection.

Zelda has magic. Zelda is more or less 90% about magic. Why is that not "against" the Bible?

Super Mario:
Mario - Jesus
Bowser - Satan
Bowser Jr. - Damien
Toad & Company - Priests and whatever you said

[Zemen]

Priests, reverends, and pastors are NOT in the Bible. The Bible is about Creation, and Jesus' miracle workings and his eventual persecution and resurrection.

Zelda has magic. Zelda is more or less 90% about magic. Why is that not "against" the Bible?

Super Mario:
Mario - Jesus
Bowser - Satan
Bowser Jr. - Damien
Toad & Company - Priests and whatever you said


lol then who represents God in the mario series? all of Hyrule goes by the worshiping of the Goddesses. Mario doesnt worship anyone. he fights because he seems to have some infatuation with the princess. its not at all the same way. Link does save the princess like mario but he does it by means of help from the goddesses and sages who get their powers from the goddesses and other lesser gods in the games. this never happens in the mario series.

Zelda has magic in it. like miracles, right? im pretty sure jesus performed miracles in the bible that seem like magic...

and my point is that harry potter is about Wizards and Witches, which back in the day were hanged because the followers of God and Jesus said Wizards and Witches praise the Devil.

[DvSag]

The various power-ups had to be left by someone in the Mario-verse. Just because there's no deity ever named doesn't mean Mario is an atheist.

I'm sure Jesus never caused earthquakes, explosions, hurricanes, pillars of lightning to smite his enemies, changed night into day or visa versa, controlled peoples' minds, turned into a wolf, shot arrows, or shot beamst out of his sword either.

As for HP, just because it goes against the Church, doesn't mean it can't be related to it. *cough*TheLiontheWitchandtheWardrobe*cough*

[Zemen]

The various power-ups had to be left by someone in the Mario-verse. Just because there's no deity ever named doesn't mean Mario is an atheist.

I'm sure Jesus never caused earthquakes, explosions, hurricanes, pillars of lightning to smite his enemies, changed night into day or visa versa, controlled peoples' minds, turned into a wolf, shot arrows, or shot beamst out of his sword either.

As for HP, just because it goes against the Church, doesn't mean it can't be related to it. *cough*TheLiontheWitchandtheWardrobe*cough*

im pretty sure i said that i believe LoZ is LOOSELY based off of religion. i never once said that everything that happens to link happened to jesus. this is just what i think. sorry if you dont like it. jesus performed miracles (curing blindness and turning water to wine seems like magic to me). Link has items that perform magic. jesus walks on water. in OoT, link gets the boots that let him walk on air for a short time. jesus sacrificed himself for the rest of the world. link sacrifices himself (without dying but he puts his life on the line and knows he very well could die which is sacrifice to me) for all of Hyrule/Labrynna/Holodrum/The Great Sea/Koholint Island. just because it doesnt match perfectly doesnt mean its not possible. isnt he ever referred to as the savior of Hyrule and isnt jesus always called the lord and savior?

[DvSag]

Yea, I could see some minor associations to the Bible, but what I'm saying is that a lot of hero epics and tales are built off the same formula.

Evil shows up.
Hero shows up, and is willing to risk it all to stop the evil for whatever reason.
Evil loses.
Sacrifices may or may not have been made by the hero.

So yes, Zelda does have some loose association with the formula of the story of Jesus, but what doesn't these days? It's a timeless story blueprint.


I also don't believe I ever responded to the original post. Ummm... I think Link should die at the end of all of this. I always thought the proper way to end the series was to have all three of them die in one final showdown.

[Zemen]

i dont think i would have all three of them die. if Zelda dies then how does the royal family live on. that would cause the ending of Hyrule as well.

[DvSag]

i dont think i would have all three of them die. if Zelda dies then how does the royal family live on. that would cause the ending of Hyrule as well.
Which is probably the best way to end it. Without Hyrule, the land of the Gods, there would be no more Zelda to bear the ToW and no more Link to bear the ToC. Without the other two Pieces, the ToP would never go back to Ganon, or anyone for that matter, so Ganon, assuming he does live on, will never have the same power he once had. Without a consant reminder of the Triforce, the Hyrulians would pick up on the next hot religion (just like how it was in the middle-ages) and society would advance, and the game would end with nothing more than a Legend of Zelda.

If this series is ever going to end, it should end finitely.
And boom goes the dynamite.

[Zemen]

Which is probably the best way to end it. Without Hyrule, the land of the Gods, there would be no more Zelda to bear the ToW and no more Link to bear the ToC. Without the other two Pieces, the ToP would never go back to Ganon, or anyone for that matter, so Ganon, assuming he does live on, will never have the same power he once had. Without a consant reminder of the Triforce, the Hyrulians would pick up on the next hot religion (just like how it was in the middle-ages) and society would advance, and the game would end with nothing more than a Legend of Zelda.

If this series is ever going to end, it should end finitely.
And boom goes the dynamite.

so you think the series should have a sad ending? after all of the adventures that every link has gone on to prevent such destruction you want it to end in destruction?

[link to present]

maybe have link die in a epic fight with ganondorf

[Zemen]

if Link dies i want it to be in an epic battle with Ganon where they are both dead. i want it to end with Ganon being destroyed for good. i guess there could still be other Links but they wouldnt get the ToC or anything like that because the world is safe, but as long as nintendo makes money off of Zelda and as long as the ToP is around there will always be a link and there will always be Ganon.

[link to present]

if Link dies i want it to be in an epic battle with Ganon where they are both dead. i want it to end with Ganon being destroyed for good. i guess there could still be other Links but they wouldnt get the ToC or anything like that because the world is safe, but as long as nintendo makes money off of Zelda and as long as the ToP is around there will always be a link and there will always be Ganon.

Your right on the money, as long nintendo makes money off of the game, link and ganon will never die

[DvSag]

so you think the series should have a sad ending? after all of the adventures that every link has gone on to prevent such destruction you want it to end in destruction?
Just because they all die doesn't mean it has to be sad. It could be a sacrifice for the greater good. Like if Zelda poured all of her energy into a Silver Arrow, and just as Link shot it at Ganon who was about to rape an orphanage (or a similar feat of pure malevolence), Ganon turned and just stabbed Link in the gut. But Link got the shot off, and Ganon died, but so did Link, and all the little orphans grew up to run the United Nations.

[DCMN]

I think a scenario were a Link dies could work. I can imagine a TP-style game doing it quite well, with Link dying after the final boss, peacfully and victorious. It would be pretty emotional, and certainly shock most fans.

[LinkAlmighty]

Just a plain & simple NO. Why? Well I have 5 good reasons (& no it's not my fist)
1. Cause Link is the main character of the series
2. There are so many Links that there would be no point
3. Everyone would be pissed including me
4. What kind of Zelda game ends with you losing & dying no matter what
5. It's not Zelda without Link.

[Shnappy]

I don't see a point in Link dying. He is the main character of the series. But, if Nintendo wanted to make a game that concludes the Zelda series, it would actually be kind of cool if they ended it on a somber note after the adventures of various different Link's. But I don't want that to happen anytime soon. Long live the Zelda franchise!

[Shadsie]

Just skimmed the topic.

I don't think Link dying would go over well. We all love him too much. Even though the "defeating evil and dying peacefully" thing appeals to be in a BIG way (I love writing meloncholy fanfiction) - for the sake of fans' sanity and Nintendo's money making abilities, such a scenario is probably best left to fan-fiction.

Though I did have an idea for a game scenario that I shared once over on North Castle. It would be an all-new game and would be set with different Link/Zelda/Ganon rather than sequel... and in it, Zelda winds up being the one to defeat Ganon because, in the prologue, Link tried and failed. The opening scene would be with her at his grave, swearing to avenge him and save Hyrule. Then, we get, Zelda, Warrior Princess and she's guided at certain points by a Ghost Link (much like Shiek in OoT). In the end, upon defeating Ganon, we get a scene where Ghost Link says goodbye, because he's finally able to be at peace.

As said, I don't think such a scenario would go over too well, but it is fun to exercise the imagination.

[Zemen]

Just a plain & simple NO. Why? Well I have 5 good reasons (& no it's not my fist)
1. Cause Link is the main character of the series
2. There are so many Links that there would be no point
3. Everyone would be pissed including me
4. What kind of Zelda game ends with you losing & dying no matter what
5. It's not Zelda without Link.

6. Link is the bearer of the ToC. Even if he dies, there will be a new bearer (so essentially a new Link).
7. They take so long to make new Zelda games that this would seem like a cliff hanger and everyone would be pissed if they had to wait 3 years to figure out what happens next.
8. NOOOOOOOOOOO

[Twilight Prince]

No Killing Link would be like killing Zelda, there both are very big charcters, and killing Link to me wold destroy the game.

[UsayEldaZay]

Of course when reading the title to this thread, I'm sure everyone thought ''HECCKKK NO!'' but seriously, how many more times can they keep remaking Link? I hope forever, but realistically think about it. It's just...too good to be true! I want Link to be around forever but...I don't know....

[Zemen]

Of course when reading the title to this thread, I'm sure everyone thought ''HECCKKK NO!'' but seriously, how many more times can they keep remaking Link? I hope forever, but realistically think about it. It's just...too good to be true! I want Link to be around forever but...I don't know....

It's not like they are remaking Link. It's techincally a new character every time. If they have stuck with Link this long then what makes you think that they would switch it up on us now? When you think of the series of Zelda, the first thing that comes to your mind is Link even though it's called Zelda. They would never kill him. I don't get why you think it's too good to be true. That would be like the mario series killing off mario or luigi. It just won't happen.

[blhand26]

Just skimmed the topic.

I don't think Link dying would go over well. We all love him too much. Even though the "defeating evil and dying peacefully" thing appeals to be in a BIG way (I love writing meloncholy fanfiction) - for the sake of fans' sanity and Nintendo's money making abilities, such a scenario is probably best left to fan-fiction.

Though I did have an idea for a game scenario that I shared once over on North Castle. It would be an all-new game and would be set with different Link/Zelda/Ganon rather than sequel... and in it, Zelda winds up being the one to defeat Ganon because, in the prologue, Link tried and failed. The opening scene would be with her at his grave, swearing to avenge him and save Hyrule. Then, we get, Zelda, Warrior Princess and she's guided at certain points by a Ghost Link (much like Shiek in OoT). In the end, upon defeating Ganon, we get a scene where Ghost Link says goodbye, because he's finally able to be at peace.

As said, I don't think such a scenario would go over too well, but it is fun to exercise the imagination.

I think that is a very interesting idea! :D Finally Zelda would be able to show she can fight and that she's not some girly princess!!! :zelda:
Now to answer the main question, of course they should never kill Link!!
Now if you do think about it each link dies at some point in time BUT there's always a successor.
Although When I think about Link dying I can see the prologue of a new game.
The Hero of Legend is on his death bed and asks for his son. He tells his son (who was named Link after him) about his journeys and the evil that is still in the world and all that important stuff, and lays the burden of being the next hero of legend on him. :triforce: So with that the old Link tells his son (Link) his final words and dies. :cry: There's a beautiful funeral in Hyrule Castle town and all are invited, even Queen Zelda (who has a daughter named .... you guessed it, Zelda) comes and pays her respects to the hero of legend. And after the funeral is all over the son goes over to his fathers graves and swears that he will be the best hero ever.
There more to that I could add but I don't want to bore ya'll to tears. LOL :wave:

[Caleb, Of Asui]

98.72358976% chance it DOESN'T happen. Enough Zelda games have a different character as Link, though, that they could hypothetically make it work. If it's just a random and stupid thing, of course nobody would like it. If they ever decide to have Link die, it has to be a new Link and it has to make sense. For it to work, they have to set it up so that it's inevitable, or at least predictable, that Link will die within the story. It has to fit somehow and work with the story for that specific game.

It would be sad, of course, or else it would be pointless. It might roll over better with fans if it's uncertain whether or not he actually dies. Something would have to happen that makes you think "yeah, he's probably dead," but nothing like a dead body or someone saying he's dead. This would be the darkest Zelda game by far.

If they do make a sequel to this hypothetical game (i.e. AoL, LA, MM, PH), though this is even less likely, I can imagine them putting this Link in an environment where it's rather dubious whether or not he's dead.

I still hold to the fact that it's pretty much impossible and it would be tremendously hard for them to make a game like this that we'll actually like. Even if they kill Link, they should never just keep him out of all future games. This might confuse a lot of people who don't realize that there are different Links. It's most likely a bad idea if Link dies.

[HeroofAges]

Well if there are several 'Links' in the series I doubt you can kill him off. Also you can't kill off the 'face of the franchise' Zelda wouldn't be Zelda without Link. But I could see one incarnation maybe sacrificing himself to banish some evil at the end of a game.. then maybe Becoming the evil of the next game.. like FF10.. If they want to take one of the timelines to a more serious place, they could totaly use a death to bring the story home.. or why not have a Princess Zelda die?

[Gokou]

Link has died...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxARm_QiCo

:D

[Gokou]

Oh boo hoo. You added a negative to my rep for that last post. Do the classic Zeldas annoy you?

[Zeruda]

If Link ever dies in a game, it should not be the hero of said game. Why? Because, in the Zelda series, Link=Player, and until that is changed, it'd be killing off the player. Nintendo would not do that, especially our beloved Shiggy. However, say a former Link is seen in the game, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have him offed. It might start the Link specific to the game off on his journey, whether it's to avenge the former Link or to aspire to be like him.

Killing off the hero only works in very emotionally developed games like Fire Emblem. Zelda has been developing their characters' emotions more and more as games are released, but right now, offing the hero wouldn't fit with the type of game that Zelda is. If Nintendo decides to drop the whole Player=Link thing (which I hope they do not), then it wouldn't be so bad... but Zelda is different from other games, and killing off the hero- honorably or not- just wouldn't be a good idea.

[zzRICHzz]

so i been thinking about this for a while after seeing the thread and i came up with an idea....

i, for the most part agree with Zeruda there. you cant really just kill off Link cuz he IS the player. he has always been described as a link or avatar that is essentially the player... he is what connects the player to the game. he is what makes you being part of the game possible. its the reason why none of what he has to say is in dialogue. thats the reason why he always has a sort of an innocent yet vacant personality type. what you say is what he says and his personality is your personality.... so as Zeruda said

killing off Link would be killing off the player...(can't put it any simpler than that)

however, i do like the idea of him being "revived" in some way as some have said earlier. but what i was thinking was i would like to see something like a new Link who is you, the player, (as always) but in THIS new era the previous hero is a lot more glorified and when things in the world start to go evil then it is somehow up to this new Link to revive the old hero in order to defeat the evil that had emerged.

so it'd be like throughout the game you know that you're NOT the hero instead you have to revive the hero... except you have to go through all these trials and tests of courage to collect whatever it is you need to collect to revive him. When after you do he or some other greater force reveals to you that after all your efforts and accomplishments you have proven that you are infact the new hero and either he helps you or gives you what it is you need to defeat the new evil...

kinda like handing down the right to be hero from the previous one...

well its just my idea thanks to all your inspirations

i like it ^_^

[Gohma]

This could be fun after all:
If Link dies, then it may result in a new Zelda game, where we might control Ganon, (or any other villain) trying to conquer Hyrule...
It would be original. :)

[BlueLink57]

Meh. Link is the mascot of The Legend of Zelda. It would be like killing Mario, which probably has been said before anyway. Unless he would be revived in some way like Sonic '06 (however much that game sucked) or Chrono Trigger, Nintendo would NEVER do that.

[Bob Majinki]

I always saw the end of Link's Awakening as the closest we'd ever get to that (although that is my interpretation of the theory - if anyone has counterpoints to this please explain, I am interested)

[Dark Princess]

Link needs to live. If he wasn't in the game, there wouldn't be any new games. It's as simple as that. ;P

[Blood Wolf]

But DP, Snake dies in the Metal Gear Solid series and they still made them! D:

I may not be heavy into LoZ at the moment, but I agree; Link dying would suck very much and not be fun at all.

If Ganon was to die completely, no more Ganon, people would be happy.
Maybe for an added bonus being crushed by rocks or something. =P

[Oathkeeper95]

how about link fakes his own death? he facing ganon/dorf somewhere around the beginning of the game but is thrown of a cliff or something and teh games mentor (navi, KoRL, midna, etc) shows up and saves him but tells link to stay hidden because now that is his secret weapon since apperantly hes "dead". he can put on a new suit of heros clothes or something that covers his face and has a whole new ninja style way of using his weapons and stuff! And he can alternate from ninja link to regular link whenever he wants! ......wow this is really starting to sound like how the TP wolf/link relationship went.Oh ,Oh,and itll be cool to implement being a goron, zora, etc like in MM. After playing MM rolling around in goron form with spikes surrounding you is now my favorite form of transportation.tell me what you guys think

[TVTMaster]

If you want Link to die that badly, go ahead and drive him off a cliff a few times.

Anyway, yeah, Link is multiple people, but the destruction of the Triforce of Courage itself would be the closest equivalent. That's how to kill off Link, if you need to.

[basement24]

I think it's pretty much impled that certain Links have, at some point in time, died off screen since they disappear and make way for new, younger Links to take their place.

That said, it would be interesting to have one game where he dies at the end. Evil could either triumph, and it could be shown in the end credits how Hyrule would be if evil was the victor. A direct sequel would then be in order to show a new hero rise to do away with the evil. It doesn't have to be moments later, but years could have passed where Hyrule is in a state of disarray.

Of course, this would be a bit depressing, so it could be more interesting to have Link defeat the main evil of a game with his dying breath. I always liked how they handled the Death of Superman in the comic books back in the early 90s (well, except for his ressurection...) He died saving thhe city / world that he loved and found until the bitter end. Even when he had nothing left in him, he still fought on until he was sure the world would be safe, and then he passed away. Something like this for Link would be truly heroic, and would make for some powerful storytelling I believe.

[Gohma]

how about link fakes his own death?


That's what I've done in my Zelda comic-
Since Link has the Triforce of Courage, maybe he could "ressurect" like Ganon did with the Triforce of Power.
So, yeah, He dies for a moment then comes back to life to save Zelda.
I would see this scene just before the last dungeon...

[Volvox]

That would totally change the Zelda series, and I think it would be for the bad. Replacing our green clad hero, Link? I ask you, what could be worse for the Zelda series than that? It would just ruin it for me, more than Link being able to talk. What would Zelda be like with no Link? I think that he's a perfect hero for the series, and I highly doubt Nintendo would do something like this. It would just scare too many fans away. I think killing Link would be terrible.

Of course, seeing spirit tracks has made me wonder. Ninty might actually do something like kill Link. They've already killed him in every way except in the actual story with that conductor's outfit.

[Notemo]

But what if I had a fairy or something?....-.- But maaayybe if he sacrificed himself. still, I think that would be pushing it a bit.

[Keats]

Outright killing Link off would be a bad thing. However, there could be a segment in the game where Link is killed, but instead of ending the game, he (or rather, his soul) is teleported to an afterlife of sorts. This is where he learns about what is going on and what he must do. After that, he comes back to life.

[Raymaniac]

I think Link will reincarnate untill he succeeds in killing Ganon and Ganondorf.... and i think that will never happen because the franchise would end!!!:(
And ofcourse... Nintendo doesn't want that!!

[goronslikefire]

If Link died in a game and they didn't reincarnate him, people allover would be furious at Nintendo, and Nintendowould be ruining one of their best franchises. So , No, Link shouldn't die. Although, if he did die and Nintendo was ruined by it, went bankrupt, and they had to shut down, I think we all know who to blame. Thats right Sony and Microsoft, I'm watching you.

p.s. I have nothing against Sony and Microsoft I was just kidding

[arkvoodle]

Link needs to live, without him, there is no zelda. if link died that would really ruin the series.

[Super Goombario]

You're aware that Link has already died many times.

Not like OoT Link is alive when WW Link is around.

So killing Link wouldn't be all too sad, I mean he's going to be there when Hyrule needs him.

[shadowlink626]

i think they should do a link dies thing and his son takes his place as the hero of time and instead of fighting ganondorfs son he teams up with him to fight a dark force from the twilight world. i think if they run out of ideas, that this will be a good thing to keep the game going.

[older1]

If they killed Link, maybe they could make the game where Link has a kick-*** adventure in the afterlife to make things right before finally being able to cross over. Like a huge purgatory debt, or unfinished business type thing. Maybe personally deliver Ganon to the Devil, then you slay them both.

[MalonMaverick11]

Wait, doesn't each Link die for good? Every Link in each game is a different guy according to Miyamoto. U must mean die mid-game? I think that would be a cool plot twist. Then u could play as sheik or something!

[Gohma]

If he resurect after being killed, it's the same thing as being put asleep by magic, when everyone else think that he's dead.
I mean, in PH, when you find Tetra changed into a statue, you may think that she is 'dead', and she could even be after all...

Well, death isn't something that LoZ games are about, so they wouldn't say that he's 'dead then resurrect'', but 'cursed then cured' (rhyme).

You see what I mean? ^_^"

[link&zelda]

Hello? in every game exept in mm there is another link to take the other ones place
(p.s. ocarina of time link does die it says it in wind waker)

[Shadsie]

If they killed Link, maybe they could make the game where Link has a kick-*** adventure in the afterlife to make things right before finally being able to cross over. Like a huge purgatory debt, or unfinished business type thing. Maybe personally deliver Ganon to the Devil, then you slay them both.


This made me laugh. Way for Link to prove that he's a true Bada$$.

Though, I got the impression from the Zelda games that Ganondorf is almost Hyrule's/that world's equivalent for the Devil.

[Dark Link '98]

If we go into parallel world theorem, we could safely say that Shadow Link/Dark Link dies every time Link successfully saves the kingdom. So technically, he did die. And no, there shouldn't be a scene where Link dies for good. Dies and then magically comes back would be okay, but probably as far as Nintendo and the entire fan base would be able to stand it.

[Master Kokiri 9]

Majora King12!!!! How could you post such a thing?!?!?!? or even type it?!?!?!?!?!?!? If link dies for good that means no one to protect hyrule and even more importantly that would no more official zelda games!!!>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(

Think of this post what you will.:)

[Zarom]

100 percent agree with Mater Kokiri 9. Link should never die. NEVER.

He is the HERO of the games! :):):):):) (See under my name)

[Dragon565333]

Mostly I Never think that he should die! He is the main Character if he was in a Book! So I say no! And he is A HERO!!!

[voltarrow]

of course not, he's the main character,even if sometimes makes dumb sounds

[Alex_Da_Great]

Why would Link die? He is the main character of the series! Never, EVER kill Link!

[Durion]

I do think that Link should die in one game just to mix up the games plot, But not to die completely, More like when Goku died in Dragonball Z to let his son win the fight to get stronger (but obviously not exactly the same as that seeing as Link doesn't have a son), But he could still fight a past boss or two in hell (or where ever it is the went to). It would be interesting and fun although maybe a little too far from the normal story for many fans liking.

I am highly against Link dieing for good in the series though, If that ever happened I just leave the Zelda Franchise alone until they got themselves straight.

[Link428]

Link...Die....No!!!!!!! That would be to much for zelda fans. We grew up with link as the hero and it would be awful for that to come true. Yes we have the other links but still Link is just to cool to die.

[kgp4death]

Sounds good kill Link in order to make a side game or two and then bring him back so now there is two Zelda stories happening at same time. Double the Zelda sounds good to me. Maybe Bruce Campbell should get the job....lol

[Silver]

Well, I think that Link should face Ganon, Ganon then "kills" Link, but the Triforce of Courage protects him and sends him in a type of coma. Link then enters some weird world, where everything is in darkness. (It's just like the Twilight Zone, you have to save the people and do a type of side-quest) after that Link is returned and awakens outside of the castle.

[Sparky]

I feel it would be good to let him die for plot, for a small portion of a game.

Switch to Sheik or someone for a dungon or two, switch up gameplay a bit, give some deus ex machina to bring him back to life so as to finish off the big bad....

Yeah, I could go for that.

[Alex_Da_Great]

I feel it would be good to let him die for plot, for a small portion of a game.

Switch to Sheik or someone for a dungon or two, switch up gameplay a bit, give some deus ex machina to bring him back to life so as to finish off the big bad....

Yeah, I could go for that.
I wouldn't let him die for even 1 second! I wouldn't care if Link was trapped in a dungeon and someone else had to save him but not die!