Skull Kid

[Onilink89]

Now i have been wondering, the skull kid that gives you a piece of hearth when you play saria 's song in OOT is the same skull kid in MM right?

and in OOT it was explained that kids without a fairy would turn into a skull kid and normal persons into a stallfos. either way they always wonder around lost woods.

now to MM, the story about when termina was created. apperantly skull kid knew the giants before termina was created. (so that proves that termina is not some kind of parrarel dimension of hyrule, its just a other dimension ) anyway, i assume that termina was created a long time ago.

So this is what bothers me. exactly how old is skull kid, is he immortal, are all skull kids like this? judging that the skull kid was the first one to find the portal in the lost woods. its doesn 't make sense to me?

what do you think about this?
please give your opinion about this.

[linkman8]

Hm, you make an interesting point. It seems to me that the Skull Kid would have to be immortal in order to live so long, so we'd just have to make the assumption that they live forever, assuming they're not killed.
So does that mean that kids that turn into Skull Kids obtain immortality?

[Matthew_79]

Well...
arn't the Kikori also supposed to be immortal?
A skull kid is what happons to a kikori with out a fariy so, it would make sense.

[linkman8]

Well
arnt the Kikori also supposed to be immortal?
A skull kid is what happons to a kikori with out a farie so, it would make sence
As I recall, couldn't a Skull Kid also be a kid who gets lost in the forest, and not necessarily be a Kokiri?

[Onilink89]

that would make no sense, a kokiri witout a fairy.
only link was an exception, he didn 't knew that he was a hylian.

[Leix]

Well alot of the Skull Kids were presumably lost Kokiri because that's what the rumor is in Kokiri forest. And the Kokiri are immortal (as long as the Great Deku protects them, I believe). But if Stalchildren are lost, then what the heck is protecting them? Or is the Deku not protecting them? Wait, no, the Kokiri live in Neverland; but as soon as they leave the forest, they've left Neverland, right? So would they lose their immortality?
I don't think they're immortal.

Termina's dimension has a different timeline, so Termina is either more or less advanced than Hyrule. They are more or less progressed. Skullkid could have left the forest and discovered the portal before Link was taken in by the Deku Tree, but at that point Termina could have been at its earliest stages.

[Mases]

On a side note, what do you think the relationship of the Skull Kid from Twilight Princess is... in respect to the Skull Kid from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. The Skull Kid in Twilight Princess does know Saria's Song, so I would have to say it is in fact the same Skull Kid.

Considering Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after Ocarina of Time, it seems to only make sense that the Skull Kid is the same person and yes, the Skull Kid is Immortal.

[blackice_cc]

Well, there's more than one skull kid in OoT, but it seems that since whichever the one in TP was knew Saria's song, then yes they're immortal. Also, the one in MM stayed in Termina, right? For a little while at least, but maybe he came back. Seeing as his Trumpet thing can open all of the Lost woods doorway things, maybe he could go back to Termina whenever, hmmm?

[Josh]

Well I would think that what was said in Majora's Mask would basically sum it up. I can't quite quote it because I played it yesterday, but it said in the "beginning" the Four Giants and Skull Kid broke up the land called Termina into different areas. The Four Giants slept and if they were needed for the people of Termina to call them. Then Skull Kid went up to the heavens and eventually came back down because he was pissed about what the Four Giants did. He then started to cause all the trouble with the Majora's Mask. I mean, does that right there not make him immortal? Going up to the heavens and then coming back down? I mean, I think he's basically immortal like the Four Giants.

[Chrono]

If SkullKid is immortal, then so is Link...and Zelda...and Ganon...and Impa...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc

[blackice_cc]

If SkullKid is immortal, then so is Link...and Zelda...and Ganon...and Impa...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc...etc

Why would you say that? Well, Ganondorf obviously can live for a long time, because it's the same Ganondorf in OoT that's in TP. But the Skull kid would have to be long lived to know Saria's song in TP, because TP and OoT are 100 years apart. You might say that the Skull kid in OoT just passed the song down the generations, but there's only one Skull kid in TP, so maybe that was the last one, because maybe no-one was turned into a Skull kid since OoT. In fact, there are no Kokiri in TP, and access had been lost to the lost woods (lol) so no-one could have been turned into a Skull kid for a while.

[Chrono]

Mainly cuz characters are reused over and over. Im not saying they are immortal.

[Onilink89]

Well, there's more than one skull kid in OoT, but it seems that since whichever the one in TP was knew Saria's song, then yes they're immortal. Also, the one in MM stayed in Termina, right? For a little while at least, but maybe he came back. Seeing as his Trumpet thing can open all of the Lost woods doorway things, maybe he could go back to Termina whenever, hmmm?

yeah mases made a good point there about TP. it didn 't cross my mind.
yeah there were more then one skull kid. but at the end skull kid said somthing like: "you smell like that boy who taught me that song"
so then i assume he is the only one who know saria's song among the skull kid 's

[Mastersworddude]

When did it say Skull Kid knew the giants before they made Termina?

[Josh]

If, in reference to what I said, I didn't say before they created Termina, after. Or, as put by Zelda Wiki:

In the past, the Skull Kid was befriended by the Four Giants. After a time, however, the Giants left Termina and the Skull Kid was alone, motivating him to seek attention by causing mischief and playing pranks on people.


That's what I meant to say.

[El Bagu]

Skull Kid is strange so I would not be surprised if he is immortal. Forest dwellers are interesting creatures!!

[Alder Dragon]

I was always under the impression that the skull kid who gives you the piece of heart in OoT was not the same as the Skull Kid from MM. How can you tell?

[blackice_cc]

I was always under the impression that the skull kid who gives you the piece of heart in OoT was not the same as the Skull Kid from MM. How can you tell?

Well, in the ending of MM, the Skull Kid sniffs you, and says "Hee hee, you smell like a boy I met in the forest" or something to that effect. I'll have to finish MM to find out for sure, but that's why most people think they're one and the same.

[Onilink89]

I'm pretty positive that the skull kid who gave you the piece of hearth in OOT is the same in MM. Like blackice said: he said something in the ending like "you smell like the forest kid who taught me that song".

but just to be sure, i looked on youtube for the MM ending:
he says that line somewhere in 3:10

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SZiNSM8-E&feature=related

[Chris]

On a side note, what do you think the relationship of the Skull Kid from Twilight Princess is... in respect to the Skull Kid from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. The Skull Kid in Twilight Princess does know Saria's Song, so I would have to say it is in fact the same Skull Kid.

Considering Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after Ocarina of Time, it seems to only make sense that the Skull Kid is the same person and yes, the Skull Kid is Immortal.

That makes sense because if he was around for 100 years, he must be immortal. Also, in TP, when you slash/bite him, he doesn't die.

[LucarioMaster]

yeah mases made a good point there about TP. it didn 't cross my mind.
yeah there were more then one skull kid. but at the end skull kid said somthing like: "you smell like that boy who taught me that song"
so then i assume he is the only one who know saria's song among the skull kid 's

he is the same one from oot and he went to mm (i have 4 ways he might have went there)from these possable paths
1 links path
2 teleportation
3 coded on to that area by the makers of the game
4 some way i have no clue i have thought of
if you have an idea please post it

[angelkid]

Right, I couldn't find a thread like this. So, here is a thread to post all your skull kid theories.

What do we know about Skull Kid(s)?
Well, not much. We know that if any kokiri stay in the lost woods for too long. They become a skull kid. Also, off the top of my head, there have been three main Skull Kid appearences:
1. The skull kid in OoT who listens to you play ocarina, and I believe rewards you with a heart piece after you complete a certain ocarina-based minigame. The skull kid also buys one of the masks from you from the happy mask shop.
2. Of course, the Skull Kid in MM. Aside from Majora himself, the main antagonist of this game.
3. There is a Skull Kid in TP in the Sacred Grove. I believe you have to chase then defeat him (If memory serves me well.)

So, Why are two out of these three known Skull Kids attacking Link? Perhaps the Skull Kids are a malicious race? Perhaps they are like humans, some are evil, some are not. Perhaps, the Skill kids in OoT and MM are one and the same? (It is possible.) So, what are your views on the skull kids?

One main thing here is that I cannot remember AT ALL what the skull kid in the Sacred Grove does, I could be wrong in saying he attacks Link. Or, he could be attacking Link to test if he is worthy of baring the Master Sword. I really can't remember.

[Gohma]

I think that they are just cursed Kokiris.
After all, the Skull Kid in MM does'nt attack Link. Majora completly control him. In fact, only Majora is evil.

In TP...
Well, he attacks you.
But it looks more like a game to me.
Kokiris are eternal childrens, so maybe this one is "playing" with Link.
Skull Kids are also said to be alone forever.
This one became a bit crazy and hurts people while trying to play with them.

[Vincent]

If I remember correctly, the ones that attacked Link did so when he was an adult. Maybe they're only accustomed to children.

The Skull Kid in MM, he makes a reference to having met Link before at the end of the game. So he could quite possibly be the one that you play Saria's song with.

As for the Skull Kid in TP, he says something along the lines of "Thanks for playing with me. He he." when you beat him for the second time. So I'm guessing their type of play is kind of malicious.

[MrMosley]

Right, I couldn't find a thread like this. So, here is a thread to post all your skull kid theories.

What do we know about Skull Kid(s)? Well, not much. We know that if any kokiri stay in the lost woods for too long. They become a skull kid.

Is there a quote for this? I don't remember there being a time when it mentioned that Kokiri become Skull Kids. I once thought that anyone who becomes lost will turn into one, but that's not true. The guy in the forest in OoT (who gives you the mushroom in the trading sequence I believe), is said to become a Stalfos (skeleton creatures). At least that's what the Kokiri girl in his place tells you when you return with the potion.

But as for the Skull Kids being a malicious people, that might be true. I always figured that they liked to play with others, especially play tricks on them. I also believe that the Skull Kid from OoT and the one from MM are the same, but obviously his intentions are not evil. Skull Kid never attacks Young Link, which brings me to another point.

There are apparently multiple Skull Kids, and not just the three (actually two) that you mentioned. In OoT, Young Link meets Skull Kid. As Swiftblade mentioned above, there is a quote in MM about Skull Kid meeting Link before, which further solidifies the theory that they are the same. However, upon returning to the Lost Woods as Adult Link, you encounter another Skull Kid in the same place. Most would believe this is the same Skull Kid from Young Link's experience, however, the Skull Kid acts violently towards Adult Link. Maybe its just because he is an adult, who knows. But if Skull Kid from Young Link's time in OoT is the same as the one from MM, then that means he left during Young Links time to go to Termina, which means that the Skull Kid you meet as Adult Link cannot be the same one. The fact that you can kill Skull Kid as Adult Link (which gains you an orange rupee), go out, come back in, and another one is there, shows that there area apparently many Skull Kids.

Some people also theorize that the one from TP is the same Skull Kid as well, but I doubt that, since we really don't know how long they can live.


One main thing here is that I cannot remember AT ALL what the skull kid in the Sacred Grove does, I could be wrong in saying he attacks Link. Or, he could be attacking Link to test if he is worthy of baring the Master Sword. I really can't remember.

If I remember correctly, you have to follow him to get to the Master Sword. Sort of like in OoT when you follow Dampe' through the grave to get the hookshot, Skull Kid throws things (maybe fire) at you. This is not so much Skull Kid trying to hurt Link I don't believe, but rather his way of playing with him. Skull Kid seems to make a game out of it.

[Onilink89]

Right, I couldn't find a thread like this. So, here is a thread to post all your skull kid theories.

Yes we had one thread about it.
Anyway threads merged and adjusted the title so all skull kid theories can be posted here.

[Skull_Kid]

Also, he pretty much implies that he had met Link before, also at the beggining of the game, when Epona knocks Link down, and he falls, Skull Kid says this to Tatl and Tael: "That guy...?Hm... Should be no problem at all".
It is pretty much implied that it is the very same skull kid from OoT.
In what concerns the TP Skull Kid, it can either be the same as in Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time, OR it became a tradition or so of the skull kids to teach Saria's Song to each others...

[Sparky]

I thought it was hyrulian children that turned into Skull Kids, not Kokiri.....

[Skull_Kid]

I thought it was hyrulian children that turned into Skull Kids, not Kokiri.....

Then you need to revise your zelda knowledge.
Anyways, when you have any doubts, you can always check the Zelda wiki.
It really helps people when they don't know most facts the way some theorists here do.

[MrMosley]

Then you need to revise your zelda knowledge.
Anyways, when you have any doubts, you can always check the Zelda wiki.
It really helps people when they don't know most facts the way some theorists here do.

Which really doesn't help in this situation in my opinion. Zelda Wiki says the same thing about Skull Kids; That they are what become of children who become lost in the Lost Woods. But this, to my knowledge, is incorrect.

As I mentioned above, Fado, the female Kokiri with blonde hair, specifically says:


"That guy isn't here anymore. Anybody who comes into the forest will be lost. Everybody will become a Stalfos. Everybody, Stalfos. So, he's not here anymore. Only his saw is left. Hee hee." —Fado (Ocarina of Time)

That quote was taken directly from Zelda Wiki's Skull Kid page under "References", but it makes no sense. Stalfos are the skeleton creatures like the ones who try to attack you in dungeons and come up out of the ground in Hyrule field in OoT.

Again, if it were ever stated anywhere else that children become Skull Kids, then I have forgotten that quote. But the reference made by Fado is not talking about Skull Kids.

[angelkid]

Also, he pretty much implies that he had met Link before, also at the beggining of the game, when Epona knocks Link down, and he falls, Skull Kid says this to Tatl and Tael: "That guy...?Hm... Should be no problem at all".
It is pretty much implied that it is the very same skull kid from OoT.
In what concerns the TP Skull Kid, it can either be the same as in Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time, OR it became a tradition or so of the skull kids to teach Saria's Song to each others...

I'm sorry but that does not imply anything. He's just making a judgement, sizing Link up. Unless you are saying that he's saying that guy as in 'ah that guy I have seen him before.' I took it to mean someone else had said... 'Think you can handle this guy.' Skull kid then replied with 'That guy...? Hm...'

I'm also starting to agree with Darlink01 here. I really cannot remember where I first heard that Kokiri's become Skull Kids if they stay in the Lost Woods for too long. I'm beginning to wonder whether this is actually true.

[the walrus cat]

I'm also starting to agree with Darlink01 here. I really cannot remember where I first heard that Kokiri's become Skull Kids if they stay in the Lost Woods for too long. I'm beginning to wonder whether this is actually true.
Actually... I think in one of Anju's mother's (or whoever calls you tortoise) stories, it said skull kid was an imp that had been around since the beginning of Termina. There aren't kokiris in Termina, though if the monkeys in TP really are kokiris, it's possible the ones in MM are too, because it seems time may be passing quicker there (EX: they are more technologically advanced). After all, they seem to live in the Woods of Mystery, apparently a parallel to Lost Woods? That's a different story though.

Since it's pretty much comfirmed skull kid in MM=skull kid in OoT, by the whole thing where he says you smell like the kid who taught you that song in the woods (and remember, that song, Saria's song is played in the skull kid cutscene before the Swamp), that would most likely mean that particular skull kid (if there's multiple), is NOT a kokiri. I believe more skull kids could be seen in the lost woods in Ocarina of time, it may just be a trick of skull kid as we know he's a prankster, but I think I'd need to go back there again to be certain.

And I don't remember where it says skull kids are kokiri either?