Curiosity Shop #113: Zelda Dungeon Mailbag

Axle the BeastFebruary 21st, 2013 by Axle the Beast

Hey there guys! New mailbag! This time around we’ve got a whopping 18 questions (though it pushed the time to 12 minutes again), with a couple on The Wind Waker HD, Majora’s Mask, and Twilight Princess. A large amount of the questions however concern the timeline and Hyrule Historia, and that’s cool because we don’t cover the timeline too often in the mailbag. 18 questions in all. Enjoy! You can watch the video here or check out the embed after the jump.

Questions and timestamps:

(00:24) – What is your favorite overworld theme?
(01:02) – What do you think of the handheld Zelda games?
(01:11) – Do you think the king will be more involved in the storyline in a future Zelda game?
(01:44) – Do you want to see some of the new features of Ocarina of Time 3D in The Wind Waker HD?
(02:39) – Do you find the Hookshot in The Wind Waker to be a bit lacking, and could it be improved in the remake?
(03:48) – Could Link ride other animals like an elephant or kangaroo?
(04:26) – How do you think the rupee originated?
(05:09) – Why don’t we ever see any Gerudo children? Where are they?
(05:52) – When/how was Majora’s Mask made?
(06:20) – What do you think of the Indigo-Go’s in Majora’s Mask, and would you like to see the famous band or singer concept again in Zelda?
(06:53) – Is Twilight Princess a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time?
(07:05) – Did Zant kill Ganondorf at the end of Twilight Princess? And does this mean Zant didn’t die?
(07:45) – According to Hyrule Historia, Falbi is supposed to be female? Is this true for the final game?
(08:08) – A Link to the Past refers to a prosperous people called the “Hylia”. What could this mean?
(08:57) – How did Vaati return in Four Swords? It’s clear he died in The Minish Cap.
(09:37) – The Temple of Time keeps moving around between the town and forest. Any idea why that is?
(10:24) – Do you think Nintendo was stupid to put Skyward Sword in the sky but not reference the Wind Tribe or Oocca?
(11:02) – If the Ganon in Four Swords Adventures is a new Ganon, is he still an incarnation of Demise’s hatred? What about Malladus?

Be sure to submit your name/username and questions to our contact page, or if that page doesn’t work then email them to [email protected] for next week’s mailbag! You can also use my Twitter or Facebook, or use the Mailbag Thread on the forums!

Can you guess the quote on the paper, the sound at the beginning, or any of the music? Include them with your question and you might guarantee it gets answered! How about your thoughts about the questions? What’s your favorite overworld theme in Zelda? What do you think of the handheld games? What’s your theory on how Majora’s Mask was made? What could the “Hylia” reference in A Link to the Past refer to? Tell me your thoughts on these and any other questions you want in the comments!

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  • Lord Carlisle

    Man, WHAT is that song at the beginning?! Why’d he have to pick some obscure song that nobody knows?

    • Guy

      lol!

      • Vance142

        The song is what plays in the room in Twilight Princess where you go back and forward in time by entering the doors in the Sacred Grove and can enter the Temple of Time. It is kind of hard to explain, but that is my best guess.

        • Dragon Ball Zelda

          It’s the song of time, and they were being sarcastic.

    • http://axlethebeast.com/ Axle the Beast

      Yeah man, to be honest I don’t know which song it is either!

  • Manbeard88

    Link did ride a kangaroo in the oracle games, if I’m not mistaken.

    • http://axlethebeast.com/ Axle the Beast

      Yeah, I know. I’m replaying Oracle of Seasons right now. =P

      Doesn’t really impact my answer though. I gather he was only using an elephant and kangaroo as examples, not the subject of his actual question. And either way, I personally doesn’t really think of Ricky and the other animals in the Oracle games as the same as Epona or other transportation vehicles (effectively the subject of the question); Rick is used to actual overcome barricades and obstacles as well as defeat enemies, so he’s more like a traditional item to me. You do technically ride a kangaroo in the Oracle games though, you’re right.

      I guess I could have just answered the question by holding up my Oracle of Seasons cartridge. ;D

      • Anonymous

        Maybe, after a few more mailbags, you can make a video titled “The Legend of Zelda; Ignorant Fans”. It’d be a compilation of every time a fan asked a “well DUH!”, “why did he even ask/bother to answer that question?”, action for answer, or “It was done, in ____.” question. The question about more active kings would be a great addition, as well as the few similar times I remember.

        • EOTW

          Idiot fan: “Dear Axle, do you think they will ever make a handheld Zelda game for the Xbox 360 or PS3?”
          Axle: “… no.”

        • Nevan Lowe

          Good Idea! I like watching those “Fans” and doing this:

          *epic facepalm*

    • Oracle Of Sages

      As well as a swimming dinosaur and a levitating bear.

  • http://axlethebeast.com/ Axle the Beast

    Gotta love it how barely over a half hour after I publish this mailbag, saying my copy of Hyrule Historia has yet to arrive… my copy of Hyrule Historia finally arrives.

    • Anonymous

      Ouch. So, after reading it, what’s your updated answer to the question?

      • http://axlethebeast.com/ Axle the Beast

        Just flipped to it and read. The grammar is awkward, but what they’re saying is that HERE (as in the design they’re pointing out, which is not the final one in the game) Falbi is female. They’re not saying that Falbi is female in the current version, and he has visibly male anatomy so he clearly isn’t. Besides, they wouldn’t have made effort to point out that he was female in his original design if he still was.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RyanF.Hullstrunk Ryan F. Hullstrunk

          I liked your answer in the video better. XD

        • The Unicorn Hanger-Outer

          I don’t think he is either male or female. O.O

    • ashesofhyrule

      Are you going to do a video about your thoughts on Hyrule Historia after you finish reading it?

  • sombody you now may know

    I was the one who asked the 2nd one. lol

  • npatoray24

    read it axle, get on that!! its awesome

  • linkypete

    I asked the 7th one!

  • Irishdragon5

    About the temple of time, It seems, there being two in SS, causes some odd ideas. The desert ToT in the desert must’ve turned into the arbiter’s grounds (it helps that the gates of time resembles the gate of twilight), Gerudo fortress, ect. The Temple of Time/Sealed Temple seems like it is at least near the forest in all incarnations (In Oot it was on the forest-side of the town, almost actually in the forest). The nature of hyrule castle (and town) is what’s rather vague. In all games, besides OoT (ST has New Hyrule, so it doesn’t count), It seems to be in the center of Hyrule. Did they originally build it near the forest with the temple of time, and it just became Ordon village (or something like that), while the people somehow moved it to the center o keep the temple hidden? (Anyway, well done)

  • OcarinaofTimeFan

    the origin of the majora’s mask was explained at the end of the majora’s mask manga.

    • Anonymous

      Which is not canon, or made with Nintendo input.

  • Roth

    The only thing I got out of the stupid bird race of TP is why Link hates chickens.

  • Anonymous

    My question: what made the Zora from Ocarina of Time evolve into the Ruto in The Wind Waker? Was it a change from fresh to salt water, a predator forced them to evolve for flight, or something else? If it was a predator, what’s the most likely candidate?

    I wrote my song titles inbetween the questions, about when they came up on the video.

    Temple of Time. OoT. Teleport tune from there as well (or from another game, like WW. pretty sure about OoT though).

    1. I’d have to say Dark World Overworld from ALttP or the Sky in SS.

    Song: Ocarina of Time Potion Shop.

    2. Love them! My first three (or four) Zeldas were the Ocarina’s and the ALttP/4S combo.

    Really? The ST overworld theme? Didn’t you just announce it a question ago?

    3. Maybe. Depends on the definition of How Much. I thought MC had a decent ammount of King, as well as WW. There was one mentioned in AoL and another king ghost in MC, but the first didn’t have much to do with the gameplay. P.S. BOOYAH AXEL!

    4. As in a Master Quest, hint system, and more? Maybe. I’d like the deleted dungeons.

    5. I thought it was OK in WW. P.S. Good point. In hindsight, I agree.

    Can you turn up the music volume a little? I can barely hear here.

    6. Moosh is an oversized blue bear with wings, not an adult Dumbo! Ricky’s a Kangaroo, and don’t forget the swimming triceratops Dimitri.

    Oh, it’s just another soft part of the ST overworld. Wow. 1 minute for the first song, then 3 for this one?!? You must really like it…

    7. How did our rubies, sapphires, emeralds, diamonds, and more originated?

    8. Uh, it’s hinted at in-game. There was even an article on Zeldadungeon about it. Something about asexual breeding with a slight chance of gender-swapping “genetic errors” that needs a male stimulus/feeding connection… Either that, or female Kokiri (and 1 male every 100 years) that leaves the forest spontaneously mature into Gerudos with a hatred for adult males.

    Again, too soft… I heard a brief tapping at the end of the question. Spirit Tracks Ice Temple music?

    9. When a mommy mask and a daddy mask love each other very much… Just kidding, I had to do it after the last question. Most likely, evil being sealed into a mask in ancient times and imprisoned in its own fortress.

    Sticking with ST Ice Temple.

    10. Maybe, if multiple instruments show up in 1 game again. Either that, or better note control.

    11. No. Majora’s Mask comes before TP. It is a sequel in the same sense that The Return of the King is a sequel to The Hobbit.

    12. No. While Zant wasn’t killed by Midna, that doesn’t mean he healed up immediately. That scene was trying to convey that Zant died at the same time as Ganon, who was supplying the immortality to Zant. They may have done a better job if they showed Zant die immediately after Ganon, but that would have ruined the moment.

    13. He’s supposed to be Tingle’s successor. After Falbi, Tingle is downright acttractive!

    WOW! Nice choice of music. You actually stumped me! Can you respond with what it is and from where? It’s a great song, and I CAN’T BELIEVE I don’t recognize it!

    14. Well, American’s refer to their country and culture as America. Why not Hylians as Hylia?

    15. Maybe he made a hasty wish to live, but got blasted into the dark world. When he tried to get back out, he got sealed. Maybe the Sword sealed him after destroying his demonic covering. Maybe he got resurrected or reanimated. For all we know, it’s another villain that took the name Vaati.

    16. Who said there was only one? Or that it wasn’t moved by the Hylians? Who said that the map doesn’t re-size itself or re-orient itself to something other than north? What if the Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword temples were the same, and the Ocarina of Time one was a copy of the original temple, which may have been in ruins at that time?

    17. Not really. For all we know, that’s a different part of the sky. Or they evolved/came to be millenia after the events of SS.

    18. Ganon is Demise’s only sure reincarnation. Malladus is Demise’s curse of evil come true. Yes, I’m treating those as 2 different things. Incarnation can mean that it embodies a quality, which could just be evil and wanting to destroy the world (that’s right Abridged Zorc, I’m looking at you!). REincarnation means it’s all of Demise in a new form, but that’s not incarnation.

    • Anonymous

      Rito, not Ruto… The similarity that name bears to the princess gets me every time…

    • Anonymous

      Ok. Why did I get another thumb down? Can you please Reply with your thoughts about either my question or my answer that you don’t like? Like I said before, sometimes the truth comes out better during an argument than a 1-sided conversation.
      If the problem is length, then don’t reply at all; you could have easily scrolled or hit the Pg Dn button.

  • Guy

    There are 3 theories on the temple of time i know of that make some sense to me:

    1. The forest simply overgrew, and castle town overtime moved (by being rebuilt, and older areas falling apart and returning to nature)
    2.The Temple of time is part of the lost woods, and the entrance in OoT was actually just a warp to the lost woods.
    3. It is just a location. Every game is a seperate game, and the timeline makes us forget that. Whether they choose to put it in castle town or the forest in the next game, it does not matter. It is the Temple of Time that matters, not where it is.

  • ocarina of the hero

    its the temple of time theme from OoT at the beginning spirit tracks over world theme as for the hylia thing i think that is what people called them selfs in between skyward sword and mc but what i want to know is in spirit tracks it says that malladus was sealed away in the beginning so what about that what happened?

  • http://www.controlpaddesign.com/ TheMaverickk

    I really kind of agree with Axl on the whole transportation thing. I’d love it if they just dropped having horse/bird/boat whatever.

    Make a tight knit fleshed out world where you don’t need a mount. I loved exploring in Xenoblade and there is no mount for it’s huge world. Having a mount of some sort means you have to build a world with that means of travel in mind.

    As for the whole Temple of Time location thing there are plenty of explanations. Still at the end of the day the most probably is that it’s just a discrepancy between Legends.

    Legends are stories, a sort of lore…. stories that have been passed on by word of mouth, and as a result through the passing down from one generation to the next it’s likely that certain details were misinterpreted and may even have been slightly altered based on the teller’s discretion before being written down finally.

    As such in one version of the tales, it is mentioned that the Temple of Time was found in a forest, in other cases maybe it was closer to town. How close? who know’s…

    It’s even an aspect that has been referenced in game as well. For example in the Wind Waker there are misinformed people who tell tales of Triumph Forks and nameless evils.

  • Fierce.Deity

    (00:24) – What is your favorite overworld theme?: Spirit Tracks!
    (01:02) – What do you think of the handheld Zelda games? COOLIO!
    (01:11) – Do you think the king will be more involved in the storyline in a future Zelda game?: Yes!
    (01:44) – Do you want to see some of the new features of Ocarina of Time 3D in The Wind Waker HD?: YES YES YES!
    (02:39) – Do you find the Hookshot in The Wind Waker to be a bit lacking, and could it be improved in the remake?: Yeah, I think so… UPGRADE IT!
    (03:48) – Could Link ride other animals like an elephant or kangaroo?: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    (04:26) – How do you think the rupee originated?: Precious gems… Ehyhey.
    (05:09) – Why don’t we ever see any Gerudo children? Where are they?: Like Axle said.
    (05:52) – When/how was Majora’s Mask made?: Evil tribes.
    (06:20) – What do you think of the Indigo-Go’s in Majora’s Mask, and would you like to see the famous band or singer concept again in Zelda?: YES YES YES YES!
    (06:53) – Is Twilight Princess a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time?: It comes after Majora’s Mask, and it’s a different Link… So… No.
    (07:05) – Did Zant kill Ganondorf at the end of Twilight Princess? And does this mean Zant didn’t die?: Based on what is shown, it is believed that either Zant’s spirit killed Gannondorf, or the vision was a symbolic of Gannondorf losing the power he gained from the Twilight Realm.
    (07:45) – According to Hyrule Historia, Falbi is supposed to be female? Is this true for the finalgame?: I think that they are saying that ‘he’ was originally meant to be a ‘she’.
    (08:08) – A Link to the Past refers to a prosperous people called the “Hylia”. What could this mean?: The ancient Hylians.
    (08:57) – How did Vaati return in Four Swords? It’s clear he died in The Minish Cap.: Tell me how Ganon does please.
    (09:37) – The Temple of Time keeps moving around between the town and forest. Any idea why that is?: I think the thing in TP is that, the lost woods holds portals right? And the castle in TP is under Construction right? I think that the capitol was moved somewhere else, and the temple stayed behind, and one of the Lost Woods portals teleports you to old Castle Town.
    (10:24) – Do you think Nintendo was stupid to put Skyward Sword in the sky but not reference the Wind Tribe or Oocca?: Well, they didn’t exist yet, DUH!
    (11:02) – If the Ganon in Four Swords Adventures is a new Ganon, is he still an incarnation of Demise’s hatred? What about Malladus?: Yeah.

  • Ryan

    What is your favorite overworld theme?
    Wind Waker. It really felt like you were on an adventure.

    What do you think of the handheld Zelda games?
    Amazing games. Link’s Awakening always gets an emotional response when I finish it.

    Do you think the king will be more involved in the storyline in a future Zelda game?
    He has had some big appearances. He might.

    Do you want to see some of the new features of Ocarina of Time 3D in The Wind Waker HD?
    Yes. A mirror mode and boss challenge mode would be great.
    Do you find the Hookshot in The Wind Waker to be a bit lacking, and could it be improved in the remake?
    Not really and they couldn’t change it much without affecting the game.

    Could Link ride other animals like an elephant or kangaroo?
    Ricky in the Oracle games was a kangaroo. When it comes to animals, I would only want them if they don’t feel like an added on feature.

    How do you think the rupee originated?
    Similar to how our gem stones originated.

    Why don’t we ever see any Gerudo children? Where are they?
    Kept out of sight and being trained how to be a Gerudo.

    When/how was Majora’s Mask made?
    The game or the mask? The game was out in 1998. As for the mask, the only story where it was made was in the Majora’s Mask manga where a demon was dying and a soldier carved it out of his remains. This story isn’t canon though.

    What do you think of the Indigo-Go’s in Majora’s Mask, and
    would you like to see the famous band or singer concept again in Zelda?
    As I said about the animals, If they don’t feel like tacked on extras and were a part of the story then yes.

    Is Twilight Princess a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time?
    So far, yes.

    Did Zant kill Ganondorf at the end of Twilight Princess? And does this mean Zant didn’t die?
    Zant dies when Midna takes him out. I just think it was a visual to show he has lost his power over people.

    According to Hyrule Historia, Falbi is supposed to be female? Is this true for the final game?
    No clue.

    A Link to the Past refers to a prosperous people called the “Hylia”. What could this mean?
    The word Hylian may have changed over the years, that happens sometimes. They could also mean the people who lived on the surface before Skyward Sword.

    How did Vaati return in Four Swords? It’s clear he died in The Minish Cap.
    Vaati essence was sealed into the sword I believe. He achieved god level of power so he could keep himself alive.

    The Temple of Time keeps moving around between the town and forest. Any idea why that is?
    Game necessity. I think the temple hasn’t moved, the rest of Hyrule has moved around over the thousands of years the Zelda games span.

    Do you think Nintendo was stupid to put Skyward Sword in the sky but not reference the Wind Tribe or Oocca?
    Just because we don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. The wind tribe could be the Skyloftians that stayed in Skyloft and didn’t go down to the surface. They have been up in the sky for generations and there should be many more people up there if they have lived there all that time. They simply live in an other part of the sky that we didn’t visit in Skyward Sword.

    If the Ganon in Four Swords Adventures is a new Ganon, is he still an incarnation of Demise’s hatred? What about Malladus?
    Yes to both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/RyanF.Hullstrunk Ryan F. Hullstrunk

    I think the story is that after the events of Ocarina of Time the Temple of Time was moved to protect the master sword.

  • Nevan Lowe

    Song 1:Temple of Time Ocarina of Time
    Song 2:Potion Shop
    Song 3: Spirit Tracks Overworld
    Song 4: Temple of Time Twilight Princess
    Song 5: Blizzeta 2
    Song 6: I don’t know.

    Sound 1:Warp thing from OoT

    The Paper quote is from Yeto

    My question is:
    Do you prefer games that have tons of glitches that allow you to beat the games faster/get items sooner, ect, like OoT/ALttP? Or do you like games where everything is rock solid, and no cool glitches to be found? I like the first one, what’s your opinion?

  • likelikelarry

    After Zant was defeated by Link he said, “As long as my master, Ganon, survives, he will resurrect me without cease!” Once Link kills Ganon, he’s no longer around to resurrect Zant, so Zant is effectively dead. Hence the neck cracking.

  • FALLRISK

    Isn’t there a comic of a Hylian soldier fighting a beast and creating majora’s mask?

    http://www.zeldadungeon.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=134

    • FALLRISK

      and by is there, I mean this^ Isn’t this the origin of the mask?

      • Ryan

        That was part of the Majora’s Mask manga but isn’t regarded as canon. It is the closest we have though.

  • rulerofyourface

    Link already had a Kangaroo Pal.

  • Olamarr

    How is ho supposed to ride a kangaroo.

    • Audioblogs12

      … please play the Oracle games. I’m surprised Axle didn’t point that one out.

      • Olamarr

        Oh yeah, I forgot about that, that’s embarrassing, and there’s a spelling mistake! This day just gets worse.

  • http://Legendarysmith.deviantart.com/ ArabDiSASTER

    Link already rode a kangaroo

  • mcineri

    Have you played Adventure of Link yet?

  • http://twitter.com/DarkMachi DarkMachi

    Zelda Devil~

  • zeldamaster321

    they have done a kangaroo

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