Curiosity Shop #107: Zelda Dungeon Mailbag

Axle the BeastJanuary 3rd, 2013 by Axle the Beast

Got a new mailbag for you guys! Now that we’re into the new year, the mailbag should definitely be coming often without so many delays! This time around we’ve got a nice variety of interesting questions, and in particular there’s some discussion about the old Zelda games and how the new ones stack up, plus comparisons between the modern console games and handheld games. We also talk a bit about the regions and their themes in Skyward Sword, and of course Zelda Wii U, since all of us eagerly await news on that. There are other questions too! 11 in all. Enjoy! You can watch the video here or check out the embed after the jump.

Questions and timestamps:

(00:40) – Which is your favorite region in Skyward Sword and why?
(01:18) – Do you think they will ever have a Zelda game that has all parts of the storyline in it?
(01:56) – How much do you think Zelda has improved since the NES?
(03:23) – Do you think Zelda is better on consoles or on handhelds?
(04:16) – What would you think of a doomsday Zelda game where Hyrule is ending?
(04:34) – Would you like to see a game where Link gets to dual-wield swords?
(05:21) – What would you think of Zelda game where Nintendo tried to make it as different as possible?
(06:33) – Which direction would you take for the gameplay and controls in Zelda Wii U?
(07:46) – Who is the old man with the Triforce of Courage at the end of Zelda 2?
(08:51) – Why did the bosses in The Wind Waker not show their titles when you encountered them?
(09:40) – Do you think it was a good idea how in Skyward Sword they mixed up the classic elements and switched water out for the desert?

Be sure to submit your name/username and questions to our contact page, or if that page doesn’t work then email them to [email protected] for next week’s mailbag! You can also use my Twitter or Facebook, or use the Mailbag Thread on the forums!

Can you guess the quote on the paper, the sound at the beginning, or any of the music? Include them with your question and you might guarantee it gets answered! How about your thoughts about the questions? Which is your favorite region in Skyward Sword? Is Zelda better on the home consoles or the handhelds? Would you prefer motion controls or the GamePad for Zelda Wii U? Tell me your thoughts on these and any other questions you want in the comments!

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  • metalligimp

    in Skyward Sword I’d have to agree with you on the Lanayru region…loved the dungeon and the timeshift stones idea, made for a lot of fun puzzles. LOVE that you just held up that Majora’s Mask cartridge…exactly what I was thinking when I read the question before you did it :-)

    • logan mckee

      the music drove me crazy after it looping 1 no 2 no 3 no 4 no 5 no 27 times. Yeah

      • Midnafan


      • guest-Strong Bad’s assisant

        You must be a time travler….Where’s your DeLorean?

        • The Unicorn Hanger-Outer

          He uses the T.A.R.D.I.S

    • Midnafan

      Lanayru had me really confused going through it. it seems a lot smaller once the entrance to the Mining Facility is up, but until then it felt impossible to get around and especially impossible to backtrack because of all the quicksand (my first playthrough i don’t think i caught i single shortcut -_-)

    • firecrb

      I hated the dungeon. Took me 4 days

  • Lupine Hero

    YAY MAILBAG!!!!!!!!!!! Favorite region was Lanayru Desert, for similar reasons. 2nd question: ??? 3rd: Haven’t played ‘em. 4th: I prefer console games, because they usually bring in the most new ideas to the series. 5th: Still need to finish that game… 6th: YES THAT WOULD BE SO FUN!!!! (I’m pretty big on dual-wielding.) 7th: I agree completely, Axle. 8th: …Well, I think I’ll just wait and see. 9th: As mentioned before, haven’t played it. 10th: Haven’t played it either (which I probably should). 11th: It was certainly a surprise for me, probably because it fit the order for the first two areas, so I assumed they were going with it again. (I ended up leaving the desert within one minute of arriving because I realized I had the iron shield in an electricity-themed area…) Thanks for the mailbag, Axle. See you later!

    • Midnafan

      i remember when Fi told me i probably wouldn’t want an iron shield in the desert. i should’ve listened… :'(

      • The Unicorn Hanger-Outer


        • Midnafan

          bad timing when you try to hit them huh? :)

  • Ratchet25

    Thanks for answering my question (and to get my name right XD) I can agree with you about the GBA games, but Phantom Hourglass just doesn’t appeal to me, I prefer playing Spirit Tracks, reason why is beyond me.

    • Midnafan

      i loved PH because it was my first video game ever (although i found it to be one of the worst games i’ve ever played upon later playthroughs. really didn’t age well). i don’t like ST because i found the characters to be fairly annoying, the enemies for the most part too easy, it was too repetitive (i think they should have left the idea of a central hub dungeon well alone in PH instead of making it worse in ST) and it was WAY too short. :/

  • Kabro006

    hmm i wonder where hes sitting, He seems to be at the top of a staircase but that seems illogical. Really like his videos though.

    • HunterP

      I always wonder if he’s wearing pants, or laughing in his head about how nobody knows he’s in boxers and pink bunny slippers.

      • hot apple Fi

        thanks for sharin’

      • Midnafan

        do you just think that the whole time or do you actually listen to his answers? :/

        • HunterP

          A little of both

          • Midnafan

            fulfilling use of 11 minutes

  • beastly warrior

    i made the first comment!!!!!!!!!!

    • MrNintendoCoke

      Cool story bro, tell it again.

      • Demariyus

        Cool story babe, now go make me a sandwich.

  • TwilightSword

    I agree that if Motion+ is used again it needs to be refined. Nunchuk motion and Wiimote motion really need to be separated. Trying to stab without doing a spin attack in SS was very difficult for me in battles with Moldarach and Armos; and I know several others who had the same issue. That took away a lot of my enjoyment of the game. TP’s use of just the nunchuk for a spin attack was brilliant, as was Z-targeting combined with the A button for an ending blow (not to mention the pointer being MUCH more responsive than Motion+ for aiming projectiles.) Combine that with Motion+ for swinging the sword and you’d have quite possibly the best motion control scheme ever.

    • Midnafan

      the only reason your doing a spin attack is because (for whatever reason) you’re moving both you’re arms when you only need to move one for a stab. just learn to control your movements better, the nunchuk isn’t THAT sensitive. i found the spin attack annoying in TP because i don’t think i ever managed to do a shield attack ever again, and i liked the shield controls in SS they were much easier and more natural. i don’t really see a difference in TP and SS pointing accuracy. although there’s no way you could do half of the required movements in SS (especially the Beatle) without Motion+, and that pretty much pointing at the screen got you whatever you needed in TP (or that if it was in shooting distance, it was probably also in targeting distance, at least with the majority of enemies)

      • TwilightSword

        I would make a very conscious effort to move the remote forward with the nunchuk pinned against my leg or couch, and it still registered a spin attack almost half the time. And for some reason, it mainly happened against Moldarach and Armos and was not really an issue in the final Girahim battle. As for the pointer: with TP using the infrared sensor it tracked the movement precisely (the movement of the aiming cursor, not the sword). SS not using the pointer at all caused (at least for me on both play-throughs) a lag when moving the cursor around the screen to aim. I loved the beetle and swimming controls in SS; and as I originally said I have no problem the motion+ itself.

        • Midnafan

          with the nunchuk maybe toning down the remotes sensitivity would help? i don’t know if that affects the nunchuk. otherwise i would up it for the pointer problem :/

  • Mawk

    My question made it!!! I’m so happy!



  • Guy

    They made oot for the 3ds, so is that included as a handheld?

    • Midnafan

      it was originally a console, so for pretty much everything but graphics and controls, no i don’t think it counts towards handhelds’ score/

  • TheOrdonianHero

    At 6:16 I realised that the Temple of Droplets from The Minish Cap was playing. Definitely put a smile on my face. As for the region question, I loved the Lanayru Land Sea.

    • Midnafan

      the SAND Sea was a lot of fun, i’m still not really sure how big it actually is (only been there once) but i’m an idiot cause it took me forever to figure out that the reason the boat kept stalling was because i was literally smacking into the Sandship. -_-


    he answered my question!:-)

  • Ender44

    i carry my majoras mask with me. And yeah, when i read the question that talked about a doomsday game, all i thought was “pretty sure they already did that”

  • Midnafan

    I like Eldin Volcano because it had me the least turned around (in reality the areas are fairly small and easy to find your way through, but i always hated Lanayru because the quicksand made it seem more complex and no matter what i do i am hopelessly lost in Faron Woods :'() and i found all of the air geysers and sliding to be fun :). if by all the parts of the storyline you mean the whole timeline? no, that’s too complex and takes away from the whole idea of piecing it together on your own and seeing all the connections (that was certainly fun in the end of SS). I personally think the newer games are way better than old (albeit the oldest game i’ve beaten was OoT(3D) and i can never get more than 10 seconds into LoZ) simply because i like the new controls and don’t like how imprecise the old ones are (i started with PH, so i’m spoiled). Zelda is always better on consoles, hands down, more effort is put into them and its simply intended that way, but handhelds are definitely fun. I know it wasn’t exactly Hyrule, but didn’t we get doomsday with MM, and post-doomsday with WW? i think the idea of Hyrule being in grave danger has pretty much always been the theme for the series, and i doubt there’s going to be the threat of a zombie apocolypse or nuclear war any time soon. As much as we all like different, going TOO different would ruin the game for sure, you have to have some sort of progression/idea/inspiration from a previous game. I don’t really care about the Wii U controls so long as it utilizes the systems capibilities to their fullest. The whole idea in SS was for the land below to be fairly barren, and water still came into the picture 1/3 way through with Lake Floria and the Sand Sea, i don’t really see how water was left out there, i just think basically all of the elements made their way in there. :/

  • Twilight_Prince

    Doomsday question:would be just like Majora’s mask. Have a certain time to save a the world…

    • Midnafan

      well essentially isn’t Hyrule in danger in every game? :/

  • Midnafan

    Did Axle’s poster moving at 10:27 freak anyone else out? :/


      weird. his poster on the wall “magically”(it seems like it) floated off.


        oooooooohhhhhh OoooOOooooOooHHhhhhHh! Its a Ghost! LOL! :D


          I mean shifted, not floated off.

          • Big Poe Of Floaty Posters

            That was meeeeee. :D

      • Midnafan

        yeah i know he pointed it out at the end, but i’m just watching him and suddenly it just floats/shifts. and i’m like O.O did anyone else notice that?!

    • Matthew Shannon

      He has a poe in his home

  • Cmaster

    (4:34) Like I was saying in another article, Link has a son and they go on an adventure but his son is the one that wields two swords. like a boss. XD

  • Steve Gray

    A pencil and two nails to creat a straight line for the poster to hang on

  • twistedaries398

    the song at the begining is a lokamo duet in spirt tracks and the quote on the paper is Whoa! it’s kind of… retro, huh? and axel my question is what is your faveorite game in the legend of zelda

  • guest-Strong Bad’s assisant

    I tell you what, The part where he says that Zelda isn’t Zelda when you make it something else is kinda not true. You could have a game which tells in another MAIN character’s point of view, like Gannondorf/Gannon/Vaati or Zelda’s. But that’s my speculation, just say’in.

  • Demariyus

    1. Lanayru. All. The Way. It was just so epic, large, and complex. Each sub-area in this region was so different while keeping the same theme. It was almost perfect.
    2. No.
    3. Have cars improved? Yes they have, fudrucker.
    4. Consoles, for right now. The Wii U is certain to make that change, though, being a console AND a handheld.
    5. Uuuummmm… That would be MM.
    6. Not as the main weapons, but as an item maybe. Btw that would be so cool.
    7. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! RAGE!!!!!! NO NO NO!!!!!!! Anger aside, like Axle said, it’s not Zelda if it’s not Zelda.
    8. A 3D game that could be played anywhere, but greatly enhanced when put on the big screen.

  • Cmaster

    I know who the old man at the end of Zelda 2 is. He is link in a older self who has the Tri-force of courage and hes all like “I’m old and stuff let me give my awesome powers to this strange person that looks like I used too when I was a kid who can fight monsters like me so he could probably use this power more then I could”…and there you have it.