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Weekly Zelda Dungeon Discussion Post #1: Zelda and Mario Fusion Games

ConnorFebruary 21st, 2012 by Connor

Hey there! Before I go on about the topic at hand, I just want to briefly summarise what’s going on. Due to the lack of news drafted and published by me, I have decided to do something different. Every Tuesday at 5:00pm GMT from now on, I will be making discussion posts about Zelda related topics, similar to what Barinade did quite a while back. It may be a topic already discussed about in the forums or it could be a completely new topic. So if you like to get involved with these discussions, all you have to do is get on Zelda Dungeon on Tuesdays at 5:00pm GMT and submit your thoughts, opinions etc.

And to kick off this weekly segment, this week’s discussion topic is: Zelda and Mario Fusion games.

The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario are the two most popular Nintendo franchises. I’m pretty certain that most of you who are reading this right now are both fans of The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario. Now what would you say if there were fusion games of these two popular franchises? If you remember the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro fusion games for the GBA, you may see where I’m going with this. Now I know there was some sort of crossover element in Link’s Awakening, where there were enemy Goombas and Piranha Plants and a couple of other Mario references, but I’m thinking more in depth, as in Link mysteriously stumbles into the Mushroom Kingdom and is chosen to save the Kingdom from Bowser and vice versa with Mario.

I think the whole concept works, and right now I can think of loads of plotlines and other small details. So these are my views of a Zelda/Mario crossover, what do you think? Do you like the concept of a Mario/Zelda crossover? Do you have any plotlines and other details for such games? Also, do you have a really good title for this weekly segment? Tune in next week for another discussion.

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  • Tiranofarl

    I used to have a similar idea some time ago. Something like Link and Mario joining forces to defeat both Ganon and Bowser. Would be interesting.

    • Nicholasgbarbera

      They actually have done a “cross-over”. In the original OoT if you look to the right of where you meet princess Zelda you can see Mario, bowser  and other characters and in the 3DS OoT you can see a mario level but the window is reflected by the sun witch is hard to see through.

      • Anonymous

        That’s an easter egg. Very different from a crossover

    • linkasourous

      Yeah if they were to do that, I’d rather Mario and Link with each other, instead of in each other’s game 

      • Anonymous

        How would Mario defeat Demise/Ganon/Ganondorf? By jumping on them? that wouldn’t work out very well…..

  • Daniel Gray

    Yes, but make it tongue-in-cheek. As of now, the mario world is a bit cheesy.

  • Geaux Zelda

    that would be so awesome!!!!! or better…. zelda-pokemon crossover!!!!!!!! lol im just playin, i love them both but that would never work haha

    • You-Know-Who

      You reminded me of a (sort-of) Pokemon-Fire Emblem crossover coming soon in Japan.

      • Anonymous

        What’s it called?

        • You-Know-Who

          Pokemon + Nobunaga’s Ambition.

          I swear that’s the name (it might be spelled wrong, though)

          • Koolbob1872

            That’s not a fire emblem crossover. Nobunaga’s ambition is a completely different japanese game.

  • Moo

    Kill all the Goombas with my light arrows!

  • Phoenix Chassin

    Mario is sucky and link is awesome.

    • Teh Xbox

      And Master Chief is GODLY

      • Vink

        Fuck off you. Go troll on a Sony fansite, not here. Zelda is way out of your League.

        • Phoenix Chassin

          Did you just say that I suck?

          • Anonymous

            He was talking to Teh Xbox.

          • Phoenix Chassin

            He better have been.

  • Anonymous

    it would be a great game if executed well like, ganon found a portal to the mushroom kingdom and took it, met up with bowser, then they went to peach’s castle kidnapped peach while mario was on vacation  then link shows up as they’re going to hyrule then when he notices its to late so he finds luigi to help find mario who then works with link and luigi and someone else who came with link to stop ganon and bowser who are trying to combine the worlds and you must switch between link, mario, luigi and whoever came with link to stop hyrule by using their skills to take on bowser’s and ganon’s minions in either an action/adventure/platformer or rpg/platformer.

    • Anonymous

      Whoever came with Link? Think four sword. Or Tingle. That’d be great.

  • Anonymous

    It could work but I think it would have to be toon link rather than adult link.

  • Bagajr6

    I don’t see that working at all, really. A game with a lot of story and themes mixing with one that has pretty much no story and filled with randomness? It’s not only story, I don’t see how the wildly different gameplay’s can even match up. I love both of these series so much, I’ve played all the entries in each (besides BS-X, CD-i, etc), but I don’t see how they could coexist in the same game besides Smash Bros.

    • Speedsk8

      the Mario and Luigi RPG games have a fair bit of story to them. they could make a sequel to Bowser’s inside story, where the main villain creates a portal to hyrule and tries to get the triforce in order to rule both Hyrule and the Mushroom kingdom. it would be weird, but it could work.

      • MasterQuestMaster

        I think this would work very well. Bowser, used to being jumped on, would be totally unprepared when a hero clad in green, who he had thought to be Luigi, stabbed him in the chest.

        Ganondorf; however, would have no problem taking Mushroom Kingdom. He would, upon stepping in, immediately be attacked by Mario, who would be thrown off by Ganondorf’s dark powers. Ganondorf would be happy enough ruling the Mushroom Kingdom, and Link would get a break, which he could use to relax, start a life, perhaps with Malon. I mean sure, he promised Ruto he would marry her, but that was in a different timeline! I know that seems sad, but maybe if she never met him, it wouldn’t matter.

        Mario, on the other hand, could perhaps get power from the Star Sprites of Paper Mario and/or the Peach Beam to vanquish Ganondorf. Or, perhaps, the Triforce followed Ganondorf into Mushroom Kingdom, as the Goddesses knew that another would need its power, and that they could trust Mario to use it for good. This would work well because Link and Hyrule no longer need it when there is no Ganondorf to fight anymore, so Mario could defeat Ganondorf once and for all.

        • JuanK

          woah there!

        • Anonymous

          Exactly!

          …and you aren’t really a master at Master Quest… are you..?
          100% it? no? no master for you. 

  • Venandi

    I wouldn’t play it… Mario/Sonic Olympic Game crossovers are enough failure, in my opinion. Zelda is a little darker where Mario is light and happy. If you really wanted you could just mod a Zelda game to make Link look like Mario and in a Mario game to make Mario look like Link.

  • linkasourous

    I would like there to be a Zelda/Mario racing game. You know, with no storyline, because that wouldn’t seem like….Zelda..or mario. The idea is cool, but I think having slight references is much better. 

  • awsomeMrlink

    It would be a pretty cool side game, as long as it has no timeline.

    • You-Know-Who

      Actually, Link (OoT’s) could be teleported to the Mushroom Kingdom, where no one cares about timeline.

      • You-Know-Who

        I say OoT Link because he’s the “hero of time” and I like to use that title as if he has conquered time itself. Thus allowing for him to travel through universes.

  • Neutopia

    I think that Adventure/RPG/Platforming is wicked, and yeah stir up the stories a bit, they could use it, and yes I love both franchises.  :D

    • Jazeta, the Hero of Neutopia

      Traitor to Neutopia! How would you feel if a plumber had saved Princess Aurora?

      • You-Know-Who

        Uhhhhhh…………………… Who’s Aurora?

        • Jazeta, the Hero of Neutopia

          Neutopia’s equivalent of Princess Zelda. Was just having some fun with his screen name.

      • Neutopia

        LOL, love the name, and why would I care as long as she’s saved?  xD

  • Max Thomas

    Zelda would do good in Mario, but I don’t think that Mario would be very good in Zelda.

  • Anonymous

    NOOO, keep mario to mario, and keep Zelda to Zelda, exept for a couple of sidescrolling areas, it worked with crash and spiro because they are similar.

  • Gut75

     Love Zelda. Hate Mario. Although I will admit to liking Mario Kart. So no, would’nt be keen on a crossover. Unless it involved karts.

    • Awesomous

       Why do you hate mario. If mario hadn’t been made, neither would zelda.

      • Truth

        That doesn’t mean he has to like Mario. Zelda is better than Mario.

  • http://twitter.com/simbolo42 Pato G.Cano

    In Marioland 3D world 5-2 you have to light some torches to get the second Star Coin. After lighting the torches you will hear a familiar zelda sound.

    • george

      check the super mario 3d website it says that level and some others are zelda based

  • Tictalk

    Non no no no no no no no no no no no. Never! The only way this could be done right and not mess up the Zelda timeline is if they switched worlds in the next super smash bros story mode.

  • Mr. Link

    I hate game fusion. IT just doesn’t make sense. Take Soul Caliber 2, with Link. Link had a story and everything, but it was dumb and it didn’t fit in with anything. I still don’t know If I like the crossovers they do in Smash Bros.

  • You-Know-Who

    I only agree to this if it’s a Zelda spin-off game and the only reason they mix is because Ganon found a way to use the triforce to rip a hole in their respective universes and both must go on an adventure on both worlds.

    Woaw… Fringe moment!!

    • JuanK

      yeah a spin-off, an official would be weird…

  • Someone

    I cant imagine if it would be good or not but that mix of the worlds remind me Kingdom Hearts(which is good game)

  • You-Know-Who

    Wait… what’s the time difference between New York and GMT?

    • Google It

      New York = EST = UTC-5
      GMT = UTC

      • JuanK

        What the

  • Jazeta, the Hero of Neutopia

    I feel Link would agree with me here (and that means something as I’m basically his clone), and I say keep the plumbers out of Hyrule. The picture in Ocarina of Time was a step too far. The Yoshi doll was even worse!

  • You-Know-Who

    Hey, do any of you know what happened to Robert? He was supposed to write “Allegories in Architecture part II” for Sunday, but it never came up…. Did he die?

    • David Van Komen

      He’s not dead. He’s actually working on it right now. It’ll be coming soon. ;)

      • LiifaJa

        He must really be working hard on it :D

    • A_LINK_IN_TIME

      LOL at thinking he died. 

  • A_LINK_IN_TIME

    Let me get this straight: A platformer Zelda or Action-Adventure Mario?!  Preposterous! 

    • Anonymous

       A platformer Zelda or Action-Adventure Mario?! Zelda: Adventure of Link(platformer) 
      Mario: Super Mario Galaxy 2(Action-Adventure)

  • dude!!!

    It would be interesting to maybe bring back Zelda II and do a platforming game, or have Super Mario RPG 2 with live action battles.  I just don’t know how it would work.  I personally think that characters from separate franchises should stick to their own franchises unless it’s a mash up like the Super Smash Bros. Series. This would only work if it was done EXTREMELY WELL!!!  Emphasis on extremely. 

  • Anonymous

    Super Mario crossover. Google it.

  • JuanK

    I think they should do Nintendo Kart instead of Mario Kart, you know with a bunch of Nintendo characters (obviously including Link) Now THAT would make one awesome racing game!

    • Red-tunic link

      He will use epona.

    • Nate Dog

      Dude that would be friggin awesome i dont know why mario gets all the spotlight because link is obviously more badass.

    • kokiri star

      Super Smash bros racing

  • guest

    If mario was to save Hyrule….he would have a hard time. because it’s going to take more than jumping on heads. And how will he defeat Ganondorf without the Master Sword?

    • A Derp to the Past

      He could use the silver arrows, I guess.

    • Anonymous

      Fire flowers,Ice flowers,bomerang power up,wing cap,metal cap, invisible cap. 
      Link isn’t the only person with weapons you know. 

      • guest

        All of those items are in the Mushroom Kingdom and only in the Mushroom Kingdom. The items he will find in Hyrule would be pointless because he is not familiar with them. Man, he wouldn’t know what a heart looks like because he lives off of Mushrooms. 

  • Anonymous

    While I love the cross-over in Link’s Awakening, I think it should stay there. Or if there is a future cross-over, go no farther that what was done in that game.

    I think it’s a fun idea, but while I love both series, I hold them both is very different regards. I think the Mario series is less serious story-wise and more open to this sort of experimentation (see the Mario RPG games for great, different Mario experiences), but I take the Zelda story-line much more seriously. Would this game be canon? Just a fun alternate universe thing? Either way I’d rather Zelda not become the way Mario is with Zelda Kart, Zelda Tennis, and Paper Zelda (unless Paper Zelda was a legit new Zelda game and not a spin-off, as in it was a new art-style choice).

  • http://www.facebook.com/jahchild101 Seth Taylor Moore

    Absolutely not. They are different styles of game altogether. Hyrule is not part of any other fantasy universe.

    • Anonymous

      Yes it is.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jahchild101 Seth Taylor Moore

        O rly?

        I’m aware of the random Mario cameos in Zelda games, but that doesn’t mean that Mario will ever land on Hyrule in the next Galaxy game.

  • Seth

    i like your idea but not many would and it wuold be expensice to chande link and mario to fit in. and how it mario supossed to use the master sword. or is he going to jump on ganons head

    • guest

      Hey man spelling is big in this world. Get it Right!

      • Newbie

        who gives a crap?

  • Sir ORR~YIP

    I think that would be really cool! Only as a side game though… not an actual part of the Zelda timeline… it could just be a dream that both of them have or something. :)

    • Anonymous

      Oh no, definately not main stream titles, that would just be too confusing. They were intended to be Spin-offs.

  • HylianGlaceon

    Mario would be okay I guess, but I’d rather see a Metroid/Zelda crossover more..

  • Justsomeone

    I don’t think that would work, those small elements are nice. But a crossover please not. How is mario going to beat ganon if they did a crossover. Jumping on his head, I guess. I think mario is not really going to fit in Hyrule, and Link in mushroom kingdom would be funny, actually but I’m not a fan of that plan.
    In Super Smash bros Brawl, they can fight against each other and walk in Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule stages. And I think that’s enough
    (A weekly discussion post is a great idea ^^)

  • The Sign Writer

    ha. like to see mario fight against demon lord ganon! and the beating bowser would get from link!

  • RandomPerson

    Nintendo can make anything work if they set their mind to it, but I would be scared of something like this. Really, its the thought that Zelda leans more towards the “serious adventure” and Mario gives more of “the illogical impossible” happening. These two don’t usually collide unless in something like Super Smash where the audience doesn’t care and they already know something like that will happen. If it comes out, I will get it, but I’m scare of it. Almost as much as I am a Zelda Kart.

  • Anonymous

    Turn based, Zelda/Paper Mario. This would be amazing! I’ve always wondered what a turn based Zelda would be like anyway. That’s the only way I see a crossover working, except in the case of Super Mario Crossover.

  • Nate Dog

    What about a zelda fire-emblem crossover?That would work pretty good. If they want to do something with mario they would have to do a mario- kirby or mario – earthbound game

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, I reckon a Zelda game with Fire Emblem Gameplay could work.

  • guest

    Connor if you don’t do what you said, I will Drop Kick You!

  • lolman677

    How about Zelda Party? Just ideas

  • Abs44

    I think there should be a game like that but it should be where they are happining at the same time so you switch back and forth between the two adventures